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steelnavy
11-28-2010, 09:03 PM
I was at a bar watching the game and might have missed a few things, but did EVERY holding call concidentally occur ONLY when the Steelers had a big offensive play?

hawaiiansteel
11-28-2010, 09:06 PM
Kemo had 3 of them...

RuthlessBurgher
11-28-2010, 09:57 PM
Kemoeatu touches a guy on the shoulder and gets called for holding.

Meanwhile, Harrison can get clotheslined with a guy riding his back and there is no call.

I asked the question at the end of the chat (most were gone by then): What would happen if Kemoeatu were somehow blocking Harrison...would holding get called?

birtikidis
11-28-2010, 09:59 PM
Kemoeatu touches a guy on the shoulder and gets called for holding.

Meanwhile, Harrison can get clotheslined with a guy riding his back and there is no call.

I asked the question at the end of the chat (most were gone by then): What would happen if Kemoeatu were somehow blocking Harrison...would holding get called?
after a long conference between the officials, they would all mysteriously die... found at the sight would be red kool aid...

RuthlessBurgher
11-28-2010, 10:02 PM
http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/files/2010/11/Kool-AidMan.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OWc4yn00szE/SRR59pOAQLI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/t1q9RgWmJhI/s400/KoolAidMan_Fullpic_2.gif

birtikidis
11-28-2010, 10:18 PM
3 minutes.
that's how long it took for to find the kool aid man, both alive and dead... with red kool aid inside...
i am absolutely amazed..

RuthlessBurgher
11-28-2010, 10:20 PM
Find? I animated them myself using MS Paint in 3 minutes. :lol:

proudpittsburgher
11-28-2010, 10:21 PM
on the big mendenhall run, kempo had his hands on the outside, but in no waywas he holdign the defender. That was the worst of the calls.

ikestops85
11-29-2010, 01:29 PM
on the big mendenhall run, kempo had his hands on the outside, but in no waywas he holdign the defender. That was the worst of the calls.

That's what I thought also but that idiot in the booth, Wilcocks (intentionally mis-spelled), kept droning on about how you had to have your hands "inside the frame" otherwise it's holding.

Where do they get these announcers? The penalty is holding, not touching. Kemo just touched him on the shoulder. That was one of the weakest calls I have seen in a long time.

I'm generally not one to complain about the officials. But damn, some of the calls last week and this week have left me speechless. I think we deserved most of the calls made yesterday but the ones we didn't (Harrison and Kemo) negated big plays.

feltdizz
11-29-2010, 04:29 PM
on the big mendenhall run, kempo had his hands on the outside, but in no waywas he holdign the defender. That was the worst of the calls.

That's what I thought also but that idiot in the booth, Wilcocks (intentionally mis-spelled), kept droning on about how you had to have your hands "inside the frame" otherwise it's holding.

Where do they get these announcers? The penalty is holding, not touching. Kemo just touched him on the shoulder. That was one of the weakest calls I have seen in a long time.

I'm generally not one to complain about the officials. But damn, some of the calls last week and this week have left me speechless. I think we deserved most of the calls made yesterday but the ones we didn't (Harrison and Kemo) negated big plays.

On most big plays I wait before celebrating now... most tend to have a hold or illegal formation.

SidSmythe
11-29-2010, 05:38 PM
on the big mendenhall run, kempo had his hands on the outside, but in no waywas he holdign the defender. That was the worst of the calls.

That's what I thought also but that idiot in the booth, Wilcocks (intentionally mis-spelled), kept droning on about how you had to have your hands "inside the frame" otherwise it's holding.

Where do they get these announcers? The penalty is holding, not touching. Kemo just touched him on the shoulder. That was one of the weakest calls I have seen in a long time.

I'm generally not one to complain about the officials. But damn, some of the calls last week and this week have left me speechless. I think we deserved most of the calls made yesterday but the ones we didn't (Harrison and Kemo) negated big plays.

On most big plays I wait before celebrating now... most tend to have a hold or illegal formation.


Me too, haha

Take this NFL :moon

My insurance agent is an NFL Umpire and my high school gym teacher is a backjudge.
I'm considering switching insurance providers and then following my gym teacher around screaming his name in a derogatory manner like i did for years when he was coaching basketball or reffing

ALLD
11-29-2010, 06:52 PM
on the big mendenhall run, kempo had his hands on the outside, but in no waywas he holdign the defender. That was the worst of the calls.

That's what I thought also but that idiot in the booth, Wilcocks (intentionally mis-spelled), kept droning on about how you had to have your hands "inside the frame" otherwise it's holding.

Where do they get these announcers? The penalty is holding, not touching. Kemo just touched him on the shoulder. That was one of the weakest calls I have seen in a long time.

I'm generally not one to complain about the officials. But damn, some of the calls last week and this week have left me speechless. I think we deserved most of the calls made yesterday but the ones we didn't (Harrison and Kemo) negated big plays.

On most big plays I wait before celebrating now... most tend to have a hold or illegal formation.


Me too, haha

Take this NFL :moon

My insurance agent is an NFL Umpire and my high school gym teacher is a backjudge.
I'm considering switching insurance providers and then following my gym teacher around screaming his name in a derogatory manner like i did for years when he was coaching basketball or reffing


Make sure you get the action on video.

hawaiiansteel
11-29-2010, 09:38 PM
Williams proves to be quite the handful
Bills' nose tackle causes the Steelers a whole lot of trouble

By Allen Wilson
Updated: November 29, 2010, 08:03 AM


The Buffalo Bills and Pittsburgh Steelers won't meet again this season, and that's probably a good thing for Chris Kemoeatu.

The Steelers' left guard got more than he wanted from Bills nose tackle Kyle Williams, who dominated their matchup Sunday.

Williams finished with 10 tackles, including two sacks and another stop behind the line of scrimmage. He also drew four holding penalties on Kemoeatu (one was declined), including two in the fourth quarter. The first wiped out a 42-yard run by running back Rashard Mendenhall and the second negated a 17-yard Ben Roethlisberger pass completion to receiver Emmanuel Sanders that would have sewn up the game for the Steelers.

"I thought some of the holding calls were kind of iffy," Kemoeatu said after Pittsburgh pulled out a 19-16 victory in overtime. "I do know which ones I did hold on, which were obvious. I know the ones I didn't hold on that were called, too. But I can't blame the refs. It's something I just have to work on as far as keeping my hands inside and moving my feet. I know I made some mistakes out there. It was a tough day."

Williams made it tough. The fifth-year veteran was virtually unblockable most of the game as he continues to string together Pro Bowl-caliber performances.

He leads the Bills with five sacks and went into Sunday's game ranked second in the NFL among interior defensive linemen in tackles.

"I think I'm the same way since I've been here," said Williams, a former fifth-round draft pick. "I'm going to go out there and play as hard as I can every single time and try to get after those guys, no matter who we're playing."

The Steelers' offensive line problems have been well-documented, and it was evident again Sunday. Roethlisberger was sacked five times and would have gone down more if not for his uncanny knack for escaping tacklers. Still, the Bills' defensive line had its way with the Steelers' blockers on numerous occasions. No one was more disruptive than Williams, whose play drew praise from both locker rooms.

"He's definitely a great player," Kemoeatu said. "Everybody knows he's strong as hell. I thought we had a good week preparing for him. But my hat goes off to him. He's a helluva baller. He's physical, comes off the ball and just hits you in the helmet. I kind of got stunned a couple of plays, but I managed to recover. He gave us a lot of trouble today."

"They couldn't block him," Bills inside linebacker Paul Posluszny said. "I don't know how many times Kyle got into the backfield, but it was a lot. When he makes plays like that he can make it a long day for anybody."

Williams never gave much thought to what he was doing to Kemoeatu, though it was obvious to everyone in Ralph Wilson Stadium. And who knows how many times Kemoeatu held Williams and it wasn't called?

"I tried to get off the ball and work my rush off of how he is going to set," Williams said. "I had some good ones, I had some bad ones. That's how the game goes."

As well as he played, Williams said there were no positives that can be drawn from a loss, which was the Bills' fourth in a row by three points.

He did say Sunday's game was another example that the Bills can hang with the best teams in the NFL.

"I don't think we're a pushover," he said. "There's no quit. We're going to go fight and make some things happen."

Kinda sums up the way Williams plays. Just ask Kemoeatu.

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills ... 268057.ece (http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/article268057.ece)