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hawaiiansteel
11-24-2010, 03:25 PM
The 'conspiracy' against the Steelers

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2010 12:15 AM
WRITTEN BY BOB SMIZIK


Are the National Football League and commissioner Roger Goodell out to get the Steelers?

There are a lot of fans who believe as much. Letís talk about it.

A lot of this talk began with Goodell's decision to suspend Roethlisberger at the start of the season. This was highly unusual since Roethlisberger had not only not been convicted of a crime, he had not be charged with a crime.

So when he went down for four games, Goodell became Public Enemy No. 1 to Steelers fans. Commissioners are easy to hate (Bud Selig, Gary Bettman) and Goodell only added to his tarnish with his perceived ill-treatment of Roethlisberger.

What we donít know is the full story on Roethlisberger. We know a lot of it. Weíve read the transcripts and all the stories. But we donít know what Goodellís investigators found and we donít know what Roethlisberger told Goodell.

It is important to note that no one -- not Roethlisberger, not his agent, not his lawyers, not the Steelers -- made any significant attempt to appeal his suspension. That says a lot. It says to me that Roethlisberger got what he deserved.

The NFL is not in the habit of casually suspending big-time stars who play for flagship franchises owned by one of the most revered families in sports.

Next came the crack down on James Harrison. Goodell and his associates were tough on the Steelers fearsome linebacker. But if the NFL were really out to get the Steelers, it would have suspended Harrison. It did not.

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.

That hardly sets the Steelers apart from many other teams in the league that have players with character issues.

I do not have access to all the players who have been fined by the NFL in regard to the leagueís crackdown on safety issues. What ever the number of Steelers who have been fined -- and they are not the only team that has players who have been fined -- these monetary penalties in no way have affected the Steelers ability to win on the field.

The outcry that came from Sundayís game was legitimate. The refs stunk. But they did not cost the Steelers the game. They did not come close to costing the Steelers the game.

The refs could have cost the Steelers in the game against the Miami Dolphins, but did not.

Does that sound like a league out ``to get'' the Steelers?

Furthermore, the logistics of trying ``to getíí a team are so impossible that half the world would know about it if it were true.

The whole thing is ridiculous and itís hard to imagine anyone with any common sense thinking the NFL, a billion-dollar industry, would take a chance on destroying its credibility by trying ``to getíí one franchise.

As to the other ``conspiracy theory,íí that Goodell is trying to turn the NFL into a flag football league and in the process destroy the Steelers' identity: Why would he do that?

What would he endanger the most popular sport in the country?

Yes, he is attempting to make changes in the way the game is played in terms of player safety. Some people think this will turn the league into a sissy sport.

I can only speak for myself, but Iíve seen little to support that theory. It's true, the refs were totally out of kilter Sunday and made some outlandish calls against the Steelers. I donít think weíll see many more calls like that.

The league has done a poor job in communicating with the players, officials and fans the new rules. But in time there will be more consistency and the game will remain ferocious and brutal.

The NFL is not going to become flag football and the Steelers, at 7-3, are not being targeted by Goodell.

End of story.

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rpmpit
11-24-2010, 03:37 PM
Stopped reading after...

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.


:wft is "too high a level of intensity" when discussing profession football?? Or football at any level where the players love the game and understand what it takes to be successful. This guy needs an azz whippin' with an extremely high level of intensity.

Crash
11-24-2010, 03:50 PM
Smizik's an assclown. First he said that Ben couldn't appeal his suspension, then he says today that because he didn't appeal it it means he got what he deserved. He also claimed early on that Ben goit the girls drunk (He didn't) and implied that Ben was a sexual predator.

Dee Dub
11-24-2010, 03:56 PM
Stopped reading after...

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.


:wft is "too high a level of intensity" when discussing profession football?? Or football at any level where the players love the game and understand what it takes to be successful. This guy needs an azz whippin' with an extremely high level of intensity.

Have you seen what Smizik looks like? How much football do you think he played?

He had to become a writer.

Nuff said.

rpmpit
11-24-2010, 04:06 PM
Stopped reading after...

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.


:wft is "too high a level of intensity" when discussing profession football?? Or football at any level where the players love the game and understand what it takes to be successful. This guy needs an azz whippin' with an extremely high level of intensity.

Have you seen what Smizik looks like? How much football do you think he played?

He had to become a writer.

Nuff said.


Was going to say he sounds like a guy who's never played the game. But I honestly don't know a thing about him. Well, I know he's a moron.

Dee Dub
11-24-2010, 04:15 PM
Stopped reading after...

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.


:wft is "too high a level of intensity" when discussing profession football?? Or football at any level where the players love the game and understand what it takes to be successful. This guy needs an azz whippin' with an extremely high level of intensity.

Have you seen what Smizik looks like? How much football do you think he played?

He had to become a writer.

Nuff said.


Was going to say he sounds like a guy who's never played the game. But I honestly don't know a thing about him. Well, I know he's a moron.

This whole "Changing the Culture" of the NFL is actually a media driven thing. It's people like Smiizk who dont understand the necessity of a having "too high of a level of intensity" when playing the game of football.

RuthlessBurgher
11-24-2010, 04:43 PM
Stopped reading after...

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.


:wft is "too high a level of intensity" when discussing profession football?? Or football at any level where the players love the game and understand what it takes to be successful. This guy needs an azz whippin' with an extremely high level of intensity.

Have you seen what Smizik looks like? How much football do you think he played?

He had to become a writer.

Nuff said.

http://c0021359.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/images/stories/m_kennedy/2010smizikblog_155.png http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ag_Z1GCKRm8/TLB6o6tz--I/AAAAAAAAACw/KA4HHc0qgjA/s1600/smizik+old.jpg

Obviously a linebacker.

hawaiiansteel
11-24-2010, 04:59 PM
Stopped reading after...

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.


:wft is "too high a level of intensity" when discussing profession football?? Or football at any level where the players love the game and understand what it takes to be successful. This guy needs an azz whippin' with an extremely high level of intensity.

Have you seen what Smizik looks like? How much football do you think he played?

He had to become a writer.

Nuff said.

http://c0021359.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/images/stories/m_kennedy/2010smizikblog_155.png http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ag_Z1GCKRm8/TLB6o6tz--I/AAAAAAAAACw/KA4HHc0qgjA/s1600/smizik+old.jpg

Obviously a linebacker.


Smizik has a face made for radio... http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs352.snc4/41786_60010470404_3731_n.jpg

jj28west
11-24-2010, 05:01 PM
Lots of love for him http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6 ... 404&v=wall (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=60010470404#!/group.php?gid=60010470404&v=wall)

This garbage has to be an attempt for shock value.

DukieBoy
11-24-2010, 05:12 PM
Stopped reading after...

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.


:wft is "too high a level of intensity" when discussing profession football?? Or football at any level where the players love the game and understand what it takes to be successful. This guy needs an azz whippin' with an extremely high level of intensity.

Have you seen what Smizik looks like? How much football do you think he played?

He had to become a writer.

Nuff said.

http://c0021359.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/images/stories/m_kennedy/2010smizikblog_155.png http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ag_Z1GCKRm8/TLB6o6tz--I/AAAAAAAAACw/KA4HHc0qgjA/s1600/smizik+old.jpg

Obviously a linebacker.
Jim Croce's nerdy bro !

RuthlessBurgher
11-24-2010, 05:14 PM
Stopped reading after...

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.


:wft is "too high a level of intensity" when discussing profession football?? Or football at any level where the players love the game and understand what it takes to be successful. This guy needs an azz whippin' with an extremely high level of intensity.

Have you seen what Smizik looks like? How much football do you think he played?

He had to become a writer.

Nuff said.

http://c0021359.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/images/stories/m_kennedy/2010smizikblog_155.png http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ag_Z1GCKRm8/TLB6o6tz--I/AAAAAAAAACw/KA4HHc0qgjA/s1600/smizik+old.jpg

Obviously a linebacker.
Jim Croce's nerdy bro !

Don't mess around with Jim, Slim, Bad Bad LeRoy Brown, or Bob Smizik. :mrgreen:

brothervad
11-24-2010, 05:17 PM
Smizik's MO is to create a stir. Growing up in Pittsburgh I remember this guy writing an article stating one position and then a month or two later having an article that took the very opposite position.

He is there to create a buzz...it was his schtick.

Here is the thing...being dismissive by calling it a conspiracy is sort of 2 dimensional and shallow grade school thinking.

Some of us feel that the crack down on the Steelers has less to do with them being Steelers and more to make an example of defining football by intimidating Defensive play.

Yes the Ravens are known for it too, but who has been known for tough D for about 40 years now.

By targetting the Steelers, the NFL hopes to change the culture of intimidating D.

For the retired old fart to dismiss that, it shows his lack of taking a subject and analyzing it from all angles.

brothervad

SanAntonioSteelerFan
11-24-2010, 05:52 PM
...

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...

I don't know why, but this reminds me of one of the 3 Stooges also!!

OMG, that must mean I've got that dreaded disease ... "Stooge Brain"!!

SanAntonioSteelerFan
11-24-2010, 05:52 PM
The 'conspiracy' against the Steelers

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2010 12:15 AM
WRITTEN BY BOB SMIZIK


Are the National Football League and commissioner Roger Goodell out to get the Steelers?

There are a lot of fans who believe as much. Letís talk about it.

A lot of this talk began with Goodell's decision to suspend Roethlisberger at the start of the season. This was highly unusual since Roethlisberger had not only not been convicted of a crime, he had not be charged with a crime.

So when he went down for four games, Goodell became Public Enemy No. 1 to Steelers fans. Commissioners are easy to hate (Bud Selig, Gary Bettman) and Goodell only added to his tarnish with his perceived ill-treatment of Roethlisberger.

What we donít know is the full story on Roethlisberger. We know a lot of it. Weíve read the transcripts and all the stories. But we donít know what Goodellís investigators found and we donít know what Roethlisberger told Goodell.

It is important to note that no one -- not Roethlisberger, not his agent, not his lawyers, not the Steelers -- made any significant attempt to appeal his suspension. That says a lot. It says to me that Roethlisberger got what he deserved.

The NFL is not in the habit of casually suspending big-time stars who play for flagship franchises owned by one of the most revered families in sports.

Next came the crack down on James Harrison. Goodell and his associates were tough on the Steelers fearsome linebacker. But if the NFL were really out to get the Steelers, it would have suspended Harrison. It did not.

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.

That hardly sets the Steelers apart from many other teams in the league that have players with character issues.

I do not have access to all the players who have been fined by the NFL in regard to the leagueís crackdown on safety issues. What ever the number of Steelers who have been fined -- and they are not the only team that has players who have been fined -- these monetary penalties in no way have affected the Steelers ability to win on the field.

The outcry that came from Sundayís game was legitimate. The refs stunk. But they did not cost the Steelers the game. They did not come close to costing the Steelers the game.

The refs could have cost the Steelers in the game against the Miami Dolphins, but did not.

Does that sound like a league out ``to get'' the Steelers?

Furthermore, the logistics of trying ``to getíí a team are so impossible that half the world would know about it if it were true.

The whole thing is ridiculous and itís hard to imagine anyone with any common sense thinking the NFL, a billion-dollar industry, would take a chance on destroying its credibility by trying ``to getíí one franchise.

As to the other ``conspiracy theory,íí that Goodell is trying to turn the NFL into a flag football league and in the process destroy the Steelers' identity: Why would he do that?

What would he endanger the most popular sport in the country?

Yes, he is attempting to make changes in the way the game is played in terms of player safety. Some people think this will turn the league into a sissy sport.

I can only speak for myself, but Iíve seen little to support that theory. It's true, the refs were totally out of kilter Sunday and made some outlandish calls against the Steelers. I donít think weíll see many more calls like that.

The league has done a poor job in communicating with the players, officials and fans the new rules. But in time there will be more consistency and the game will remain ferocious and brutal.

The NFL is not going to become flag football and the Steelers, at 7-3, are not being targeted by Goodell.

End of story.

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Hawaiian - that picture is just flat out FUNNY!! :lol: :lol: :Bow :Bow

flippy
11-24-2010, 06:00 PM
Stopped reading after...

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.


:wft is "too high a level of intensity" when discussing profession football?? Or football at any level where the players love the game and understand what it takes to be successful. This guy needs an azz whippin' with an extremely high level of intensity.

Have you seen what Smizik looks like? How much football do you think he played?

He had to become a writer.

Nuff said.

http://c0021359.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/images/stories/m_kennedy/2010smizikblog_155.png http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ag_Z1GCKRm8/TLB6o6tz--I/AAAAAAAAACw/KA4HHc0qgjA/s1600/smizik+old.jpg

Obviously a linebacker.

If they had lasik back in the stoneage, he coulda been a stunt double for Mr Carter. I'd love to see Smiznitz try to put Boom Boom Washington in his place.

Up your nose with a rubber hose.

Dee Dub
11-24-2010, 06:07 PM
If they had lasik back in the stoneage, he coulda been a stunt double for Mr Carter. I'd love to see Smiznitz try to put Boom Boom Washington in his place.

Up your nose with a rubber hose.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That was hilarious!!

Now..do you know why they called him Boom Boom?

flippy
11-24-2010, 06:23 PM
If they had lasik back in the stoneage, he coulda been a stunt double for Mr Carter. I'd love to see Smiznitz try to put Boom Boom Washington in his place.

Up your nose with a rubber hose.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That was hilarious!!

Now..do you know why they called him Boom Boom?

Too long ago for me to remember. I just remember how cool he was when he said "Hi There".

And it cracked me up when I saw the Jackson 5 movie on tv where he played Joe Jackson. How such a cool cat could play JJ is beyond me.

And it also cracks me up seeing Mr Carter as an announcer for poker games.

I bet no one would have ever bet that John Travolta woulda been the star outta that cast of characters.

Dee Dub
11-24-2010, 06:53 PM
If they had lasik back in the stoneage, he coulda been a stunt double for Mr Carter. I'd love to see Smiznitz try to put Boom Boom Washington in his place.

Up your nose with a rubber hose.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That was hilarious!!

Now..do you know why they called him Boom Boom?

Too long ago for me to remember. I just remember how cool he was when he said "Hi There".

And it cracked me up when I saw the Jackson 5 movie on tv where he played Joe Jackson. How such a cool cat could play JJ is beyond me.

And it also cracks me up seeing Mr Carter as an announcer for poker games.

I bet no one would have ever bet that John Travolta woulda been the star outta that cast of characters.

One of my favorite shows of all time. In the first episode Mr Carter asked Freddie why they called him Boom Boom and Freddie then made a motion with both of his hands that formed a make believe Cello..and then he acted as if he was playing it (sort of like an air guitar), and he then said "A Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom".

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I just think that was so funny.

And what about Epstein and his notes from his mother singed....Epstein's Mother??

flippy
11-24-2010, 07:25 PM
[quote=flippy]
If they had lasik back in the stoneage, he coulda been a stunt double for Mr Carter. I'd love to see Smiznitz try to put Boom Boom Washington in his place.

Up your nose with a rubber hose.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That was hilarious!!

Now..do you know why they called him Boom Boom?

Too long ago for me to remember. I just remember how cool he was when he said "Hi There".

And it cracked me up when I saw the Jackson 5 movie on tv where he played Joe Jackson. How such a cool cat could play JJ is beyond me.

And it also cracks me up seeing Mr Carter as an announcer for poker games.

I bet no one would have ever bet that John Travolta woulda been the star outta that cast of characters.

One of my favorite shows of all time. In the first episode Mr Carter asked Freddie why they called him Boom Boom and Freddie then made a motion with both of his hands that formed a make believe Cello..and then he acted as if he was playing it (sort of like an air guitar), and he then said "A Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom".

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I just think that was so funny.

And what about Epstein and his notes from his mother singed....Epstein's Mother??[/quote:agkhzz5y]

:lol

They don't make shows like this anymore. Now we get Glee instead :wft

Probably cause the PC police wouldn't like this show anymore.

I liked Travolta's dumb guy act.....what....where...who....why

Horshacks oooh oooh ooh cracked me up too.

It was one of my favs.

RuthlessBurgher
11-24-2010, 07:38 PM
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...

I don't know why, but this reminds me of one of the 3 Stooges also!!

OMG, that must mean I've got that dreaded disease ... "Stooge Brain"!!

Yeah...armpit. :lol:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s119/rpmpit/stooges.jpg

fordfixer
11-24-2010, 08:24 PM
Stopped reading after...

So what we have is a quarterback who was a bad boy and a linebacker who plays the game at, perhaps, too high a level of intensity.


:wft is "too high a level of intensity" when discussing profession football?? Or football at any level where the players love the game and understand what it takes to be successful. This guy needs an azz whippin' with an extremely high level of intensity.

Have you seen what Smizik looks like? How much football do you think he played?

He had to become a writer.

Nuff said.

http://c0021359.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/images/stories/m_kennedy/2010smizikblog_155.png http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ag_Z1GCKRm8/TLB6o6tz--I/AAAAAAAAACw/KA4HHc0qgjA/s1600/smizik+old.jpg

Obviously a linebacker.

If they had lasik back in the stoneage, he coulda been a stunt double for Mr Carter. I'd love to see Smiznitz try to put Boom Boom Washington in his place.

Up your nose with a rubber hose.
You mean this guy
http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Imported/ShowPix/Jonathan/imagesN_Z/welcome-back-kotter.jpg His name was Gabe Kotter

SteelTorch
11-24-2010, 08:48 PM
Haven't read Smizik's column in a long time. Is he still using the profile pic from 30 years ago? :P

stlrz d
11-25-2010, 12:30 AM
Smizek's an idiot.

And he looks like this guy:

http://www-movieline-com.vimg.net/images/assets_c/2010/11/gene_shalit_500alt-thumb-500xauto-24080.jpg

rpmpit
11-25-2010, 05:16 AM
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http://c0021359.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/images/stories/m_kennedy/2010smizikblog_155.png http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ag_Z1GCKRm8/TLB6o6tz--I/AAAAAAAAACw/KA4HHc0qgjA/s1600/smizik+old.jpg

...

I don't know why, but this reminds me of one of the 3 Stooges also!!

OMG, that must mean I've got that dreaded disease ... "Stooge Brain"!!

Yeah...armpit. :lol:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s119/rpmpit/stooges.jpg

Blast from the past... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Captain Lemming
11-25-2010, 05:57 PM
I dont agree with all the details of the article, but the overall theme is spot on.

There is no anti-Steeler conspiracy.

The refs were horrible in the last game true.
I don't agree with all of Goodells calls either.

I just don't agree with you guys on the motivation.

We have more championships than anyone, two during the Goodell era, a massive and loyal fanbase, and "The League" hates the Steelers?

You guys sound like a bunch of whiney Raider fans. Ridiculous!

Flasteel
11-25-2010, 09:49 PM
I dont agree with all the details of the article, but the overall theme is spot on.

There is no anti-Steeler conspiracy.

The refs were horrible in the last game true.
I don't agree with all of Goodells calls either.

I just don't agree with you guys on the motivation.

We have more championships than anyone, two during the Goodell era, a massive and loyal fanbase, and "The League" hates the Steelers?

You guys sound like a bunch of whiney Raider fans. Ridiculous!

:Clap

BURGH86STEEL
11-26-2010, 12:22 AM
I dont agree with all the details of the article, but the overall theme is spot on.

There is no anti-Steeler conspiracy.

The refs were horrible in the last game true.
I don't agree with all of Goodells calls either.

I just don't agree with you guys on the motivation.

We have more championships than anyone, two during the Goodell era, a massive and loyal fanbase, and "The League" hates the Steelers?

You guys sound like a bunch of whiney Raider fans. Ridiculous!

I agree, there is no conspiracy.

birtikidis
11-26-2010, 12:33 AM
I think where the conspiracy is, is against the fans. Water the league down, but at the same time promote having more games. rg is more concerned wtih profits then he is with the quality of the product.

Crash
11-26-2010, 12:46 AM
It could be argued the anti-Steeler conspiracy has gone on for decades.

First, everyone knows the 1977 rules change to increase passing was because Mel Blount was so dominant.

Then Kimo hit Palmer low in 2005, the rules were changed.

Hines hit Keith Rivers, the rules were changed.

This Ben crap, and now the way we are obviously being targeted on defense (again) is just a continuation of that.

Flasteel
11-26-2010, 02:25 AM
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/cgo/lowres/cgon507l.jpg