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hawaiiansteel
10-22-2010, 03:21 AM
The Steelers are the NFL's top villain.

by prophicide on Oct 18, 2010


Here are five reasons the Steelers are Darth Vader in 2010.


1. The Steelers will top many a power rankings list this week. Discussion at Dawgs by Nature often refers to the Steelers as "the bully." Every team in the league looks at the Steelers matchup as a likely loss. Fear leads to hate.

2. The Steelers have had unparalleled success, and are making a run for a ridiculous 7th title. No other team has enjoyed such success. Fans of less prestigious teams feel that it should be their team's chance at a ring, instead of adding excessive hardware to one team.

3. Ben Roethlisberger is widely regarded as a rapist or sexual assaulter. Not a popular group of people. Our team's recent success and hopes for the near future rest on his arm. A team needs a franchise quarterback to pick apart postseason defenses, and Big Ben is instrumental to a 2010 Super Bowl win.

4. James Harrison's hits on Sunday struck a sore note with NFL fans. I bounced around the internet today and the non-Steelers consensus seems to be that he deserves suspension for intentional headhunting. Harrison is also the pride of this generation of the Steel Curtain, setting the tone with his violent and supremely effective play against run and pass.

5. Steelers Nation is huge, has pockets across the country, and we are the happiest fans in the country every Sunday morning because no team scares us. They wish they were happy. Their teams lose to crappy teams.

Steelers fans, we're going to accept that inasmuch as the NFL has a bad guy, the Steelers have supplanted the Patriots as the number one villain. I don't like it, because to me the Steelers are heroes. I wish I had advice for dealing with this feeling, whether it is better to embrace the dark side or ignore the haters. Instead I'll open it up to comments.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/20 ... op-villain (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2010/10/18/1760029/the-steelers-are-the-nfls-top-villain)

LordVile
10-22-2010, 03:27 AM
The Steelers are damned if they do and damned if they don't. So I choose to embrace the hate.. Screw Everyone :)

hawaiiansteel
10-22-2010, 03:57 AM
So I choose to embrace the hate.. Screw Everyone :)


with a screen name of "LordVile", I wouldn't have expected you to say anything else. :Cheers

Screw 'em all... :lol:

Crash
10-22-2010, 04:11 AM
Yep, I'll gladly play the role of villain. Makes winning all the more sweeter.

Discipline of Steel
10-22-2010, 06:49 AM
Im surprised they didnt fine Mike Tomlin for his 'unfineable' comment. But with that comment, he truly solidified his troops behind him.

Kaeg
10-22-2010, 07:29 AM
Although I think the role is undeserved, as a Steeler fan, I guess I have to accept it. It's hard to think more people would hate us than the *Patriots, since it's a world of difference to me. As we earn our hardware and they cheat for it. I still think until Brady wins another one without any tainted issues, he's still very overrated. As well as his team. But that is another topic......

ramblinjim
10-22-2010, 07:50 AM
As a lifelong Pittsburgh Steeler Fan: I will happily embrace the hate. And speaking of Hate, let's hope Jimmy Hate goes out and takes out some frustrations on people this weekend.

This should be a rallying cry for the Steelers, it's time to get p1issed and start destroying people. We have the personnel for it.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
10-22-2010, 08:22 AM
Wouldn't want it any other way. Love me or Fear me.

eniparadoxgma
10-22-2010, 08:44 AM
The Steelers are the NFL's top villain.

by prophicide on Oct 18, 2010


Here are five reasons the Steelers are Darth Vader in 2010.


And with that comes an avatar change. Props to whoever made this pic many years ago.

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cruzer8
10-22-2010, 09:16 AM
Which is why we should always wear the black hats. Get rid of those stupid yellow ones already because bad guys don't wear yellow hats!

Guys who walk around with monkeys do though.

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Sugar
10-22-2010, 09:25 AM
Im surprised they didnt fine Mike Tomlin for his 'unfineable' comment. But with that comment, he truly solidified his troops behind him.

I actually think that was a very savvy move on Tomlins part. He said what he said prior to the league even looking at it. He made another statement after they looked at it but before there was a ruling. If he had said the same thing afterwards he might have been in some trouble.

Oviedo
10-22-2010, 10:00 AM
The Steelers are damned if they do and damned if they don't. So I choose to embrace the hate.. Screw Everyone :)

I hope the whole country turns against us. This team plays best when its them against the world and they feel slighted.

The only problem is that the Steeler Nation IS THE COUNTRY. We are everywhere and the anti-Steeler sentiment is a construct of the sports media.

DarthDeebo
10-22-2010, 10:04 AM
Yep, let 'em hate. We'll still have more Lombardies than them all.

brothervad
10-22-2010, 01:38 PM
Some will probably take this the wrong way...

I am not suggesting that I want any Dolphin to be injured, but I would love it if Lebeau's defense came out and unleashed Hell on Earth in an act of defiance to Dictator Goodell.

To a man I would love to see them intimidate the offense so that by halftime the Dolphins surrender...

You want to suspend us for devastating hits...you are going to have to suspend all 11 starters and some subs...

That would be amazing to see...

In the end...that would make the Steelers the villain to all those haters...

brothervad

Jooser
10-22-2010, 01:42 PM
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Notleadpoisoned
10-22-2010, 03:11 PM
I really enjoy the hate we get everytime thousands of Steelers fans take over an opposing team's home stadium. That kind of hate brings out that Steelers pride in me everytime.

Shawn
10-22-2010, 03:36 PM
In football hate equals respect. You don't hate the teams that don't scare you. You don't hate the teams that don't embarass you. Everytime another team steps on the field they run the serious risk of being man handled.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
10-22-2010, 03:39 PM
4. James Harrison's hits on Sunday struck a sore note with NFL fans. I bounced around the internet today and the non-Steelers consensus seems to be that he deserves suspension for intentional headhunting. Harrison is also the pride of this generation of the Steel Curtain, setting the tone with his violent and supremely effective play against run and pass.

Actually I disagree with this.

I have also bounced around a bit and while I have found a lot of hate against the Steelers on this issue, it seems to be coming mostly from three fan bases.......Browns, Pats, and Cowboys. The funniest part about the whining NE fans is that they are the greatest benefactors from all the Harrison scrutiny in that it takes the spotlight off of the player it truly belongs on - their very own Brandon Meriweather.

I have seen a lot of support - much from the Ravens fan base. The strange thing is that I have never seen Steeler fans and Ravens fans band together before. :shock:

AngryAsian
10-22-2010, 03:45 PM
I would love for JH to have a '07 Ratbird game this Sunday, where the whole defense and team for that matter take his lead and destroy Miami. That would be the best retort. As for being the villain, I share the sentiments that most feel... this team has always played best with the 'Us Against The World' chip on its shoulder. '05 and '08 are testaments to that fact. Please send all the hate you can muster, we'll keep taking the Lombardis.

cruzer8
10-22-2010, 04:27 PM
I really enjoy the hate we get everytime thousands of Steelers fans take over an opposing team's home stadium. That kind of hate brings out that Steelers pride in me everytime.

Goosebumps.

The Man of Steel
10-22-2010, 04:34 PM
I really enjoy the hate we get everytime thousands of Steelers fans take over an opposing team's home stadium. That kind of hate brings out that Steelers pride in me everytime.

Goosebumps.
Ditto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF_3NQTH2D0

DukieBoy
10-22-2010, 04:47 PM
We got SIX Appeal.
Hate on that all they want.

ALLD
10-23-2010, 05:58 PM
Others hate the Steelers just like those who are not from NYC hate the Yankees and they are happy when they lose. The Steelers are the most successful team since the Super Bowl era began.

Look at all the rule changes made in the name of Steelers. Mel Blount and Hines Ward have rules to reduce tough play. Tom Brady has a sissy rule because he is one.

hawaiiansteel
10-23-2010, 09:32 PM
In the books, NFL crackdown not a game changer

By TIM DAHLBERG, AP Sports Columnist


LAS VEGAS (AP)—The number was the same for both the wise guys and the people who bookies in this gambling city like to call squares. On the big electronic board in the sports book at the Red Rock resort, the Pittsburgh Steelers were 3-point favorites to win on the road in Miami, a spread that wouldn’t change much even if James Harrison(notes) made good on his threat to retire.

The Steelers have always been good to this city’s sports books because of the large amount of action they attract. This year they’ve been good to bettors, who had their way with the books on four of Pittsburgh’s first five games.

Telling Harrison not to go helmet-to-helmet on the Dolphins isn’t going to change that. Nor, in the eyes of people who make their living studying and analyzing NFL games, will it change the way the games are played.

“I haven’t heard of any of the sophisticated bettors factoring it into their handicapping,” said Art Manteris, who oversees betting operations for Red Rock Station and several other casinos.

The non-sophisticated bettors—aka the squares—cared even less. They were more concerned about Brett Favre’s(notes) state of mind for his prime-time clash in Green Bay than the crackdown the NFL is waging against hits to the head.

“Taking three points with Favre would be a no-brainer if it weren’t for all that other stuff,” said one bettor filling out a parlay card at the Red Rock.

While much of the talk in locker rooms around the league this week was that the NFL’s strict new policies on hits to the head would cause defenders to think too much and make defenses less effective, there’s not much talk among bettors and oddsmakers over what the changes might do to the point spread.

That’s mainly because they don’t think the crackdown will affect games at all.

“Obviously you could say maybe the Steelers will play a little more tentative, but I don’t see it,” said Jimmy Vaccaro, director of sports operations for the Lucky’s chain. “The Harrison thing, I almost think the refs will be easier on him because how can you invoke a rule in the middle of the season?”

An unscientific sampling of bettors at the Red Rock found no lack of enthusiasm for the Steelers, the team most identified with the stricter enforcement of rules against hits to the head because of the two last Sunday that netted Harrison a $75,000 fine and led him to briefly ponder retirement.

Hardly surprising because the Steelers have been covering spreads all season. And, while defense may win games in the NFL, the game would be affected more if Ben Roethlisberger(notes) didn’t line up behind center than if Harrison was suddenly ineffective because he was afraid to draw more fines or a suspension.

That view may change if defenses suddenly lie down in this weekend’s games. No one expects that to happen, though, including the players who must perform if they are going to continue to get paid.

“It’s kind of, for the lack of a better term, it’s kill or be killed,” Giants defensive end Dave Tollefson(notes) said earlier this week. “Obviously that’s the wrong way to put it with these situations, but are you going to be the hammer or the nail? That’s not good enough to just hit each other. You have to hit that guy and make a tackle after that, or he has to finish you. This a high-performance business. You have to do what they ask and do it well.”

Big hits, of course, are one big reason the NFL is so popular that one of the least attractive Monday night matchups of the year drew more television viewers than Game 3 of the Yankees-Rangers series that was up against it. Violence sells and sells well, as evidenced by network NFL ratings that are higher this season than they have been in years.

America’s favorite game is also America’s favorite game to wager a few dollars on. More than $2.57 billion was bet in Nevada sports books last year, most of it on football, and anything from a forecast of rain to the state of Favre’s brain is analyzed in a dozen different ways on both sides of the betting counter to try and spot a possible edge.

If there was one to be gained by betting against smashmouth defenses, the wise guys would be all over it. The fact that they’re not is a pretty good indication the game will remain the same.

Tim Dahlberg is a national sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at tdahlberg(at)ap.org

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flippy
10-23-2010, 09:44 PM
Don't hate me cause I'm beautiful....

I'm really not into the whole hate thing. I just want a team of guys that are driven to be the best. I want guys that speak softly and carry the biggest stick.

I want players who rise above the norm. That set themselves apart. That set an example for others to follow.

Can't hate on that.

pepsyman1
10-23-2010, 10:40 PM
Having a percentage of the population that hates our team is normal. It's been that way from the days of the Steel Curtain. You think Jack Lambert was looked at any differently than some fans look at Harrison? Our team has always been the intimidators...the Raiders in the 70's always wanted to looked at the way we were...the tough, mean guys of the NFL. They were mean, sometimes dirty, but their defense was never close to ours. The Cowboys were always called America's Team, we were always their villain. I got no problem with that. I remember reading an article about the Steelers before our 4th Superbowl...the writer called the Steelers "the monolith of the NFL". It still fits...the hell with all of them, stop us if you can.

hawaiiansteel
10-25-2010, 12:40 AM
add Miami to the list of cities who think the Steelers are villains... :lol:


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papillon
10-25-2010, 06:36 AM
add Miami to the list of cities who think the Steelers are villains... :lol:


http://www.blogcdn.com/nfl.fanhouse.com/media/2010/10/steelers-dolphins.jpg

Gladly... :Bow :tt2

Pappy

TallyStiller
10-25-2010, 10:15 AM
Media tries to set a narrative. When Bill Belichick and his ******* were winning titles, they tried to set them up as heroes, with Brady being Superman and Fabio rolled up into one, but nobody bought it. They were hated outside of New England. Meanwhile, then, now, and undoubtedly future, the same media can't stand us, dis us constantly, and yet we have one of, if not THE largest fan base in the country in any professional sport. If we're becoming the Yankees of football, so be it, but d*mnit, I want some media a**kissing to go along with it!!! :moon Pucker up, ESPN!!! :D

hawaiiansteel
10-29-2010, 03:27 PM
Pittsburgh Steelers: Is the NFL Placing a Larger Chip on Their Shoulders?

By Nick Signorelli (Steelers Featured Columnist) on October 22, 2010


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As a life long fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers, there is a troublesome trend with the Steelers that was really concerning me heading into the Week 7 game against the Miami Dolphins.

See, the Steelers like to play to the level of their competition. When they are playing great teams, they play great. When they are playing poor teams, sometimes they play poorly. When they are playing teams in the middle, much like the Miami Dolphins, sometimes they play poor, and lose because of it.

I was worried about the game against the Miami Dolphins, because they are not a team that is great, but far from a team that is bad. Miami is a middle of the road team, and the Steelers could have been in for a trap game.

Notice, I said COULD HAVE.

The Pittsburgh Steelers, are loved by Steelers Nation. Those that do not love the Steelers, normally HATE them. The joy around the NFL when Ben Roethlisberger was suspended was like the Steelers had already been eliminated from the Playoffs.

People were predicting the Steelers would win four games, or be lucky to go 8-8. Everyone KNEW that the Steelers would be lucky to go 1-3 during Roethlisbergers absence. What happened?

The Steelers got a chip on their shoulder, because people said, "they can't."

In 2005, the Steelers were almost not in the playoffs. Everyone wrote them off, saying that they could not make the playoffs.

The chip—win final four games, then another three on the road in the playoffs, and eventually become Super Bowl Champions!

In 2009, everyone said the Steelers would end the season on an eight game losing streak. After losing to the Browns, the talk of how doomed the Steelers were started.

The chip—Steelers win their final three games, beating two teams that were in the playoffs, and one that was eliminated when they lost to Pittsburgh.

In 2010, when Ben Roethlisberger was suspended, and everyone said the Steelers would be horrible.

The chip—Steelers defense looks like the Steel Curtain, as they pound the Falcons, Titans and Buccaneers, and almost beat the Ravens, with their fourth string QB.

Again in 2010, James Harrison is fined for a hit, that is questionable.

The Chip—???

See, the Steelers like to play with that chip on their shoulder. They like for people to talk bad about them. They like when they play away, and hear the opposing fans BOO them. It is motivation. It is inspiration.

Why? Because they know, when people want them to play poorly, is when they play their best. When most teams have distractions, the Steelers have motivation.

Unlike the game may have had against the Dolphins, had the NFL not decided to put the chip back on their shoulder.

Thanks, NFL.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4987 ... -shoulders (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/498799-pittsburgh-steelers-is-the-nfl-placing-a-larger-chip-on-their-shoulders)

RuthlessBurgher
10-29-2010, 11:52 PM
The Steelers are the NFL's top villain.

by prophicide on Oct 18, 2010


Here are five reasons the Steelers are Darth Vader in 2010.


1. The Steelers will top many a power rankings list this week. Discussion at Dawgs by Nature often refers to the Steelers as "the bully." Every team in the league looks at the Steelers matchup as a likely loss. Fear leads to hate.

2. The Steelers have had unparalleled success, and are making a run for a ridiculous 7th title. No other team has enjoyed such success. Fans of less prestigious teams feel that it should be their team's chance at a ring, instead of adding excessive hardware to one team.

3. Ben Roethlisberger is widely regarded as a rapist or sexual assaulter. Not a popular group of people. Our team's recent success and hopes for the near future rest on his arm. A team needs a franchise quarterback to pick apart postseason defenses, and Big Ben is instrumental to a 2010 Super Bowl win.

4. James Harrison's hits on Sunday struck a sore note with NFL fans. I bounced around the internet today and the non-Steelers consensus seems to be that he deserves suspension for intentional headhunting. Harrison is also the pride of this generation of the Steel Curtain, setting the tone with his violent and supremely effective play against run and pass.

5. Steelers Nation is huge, has pockets across the country, and we are the happiest fans in the country every Sunday morning because no team scares us. They wish they were happy. Their teams lose to crappy teams.

Steelers fans, we're going to accept that inasmuch as the NFL has a bad guy, the Steelers have supplanted the Patriots as the number one villain. I don't like it, because to me the Steelers are heroes. I wish I had advice for dealing with this feeling, whether it is better to embrace the dark side or ignore the haters. Instead I'll open it up to comments.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/20 ... op-villain (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2010/10/18/1760029/the-steelers-are-the-nfls-top-villain)

Fear leads to anger.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to suffering.

Suffering leads to the Dark Side.

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hawaiiansteel
10-30-2010, 01:54 PM
NFL Week 8: A Message To the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers

By Derek Overly (Contributor) on October 29, 2010 - Pittsburgh


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Willis McGahee is brought down by Lawrence Timmons on Oct. 3rd.
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There are plenty of exciting NFL games to watch in Week 8. The Indianapolis Colts will try to exact some revenge on the Houston Texans. Randy Moss leads his new team, the Minnesota Vikings (who may possibly play without Brett Favre), against his old team, the New England Patriots.

However there are two teams to watch closely this week, and one of them is on a bye.

I'm talking about the Baltimore Ravens and the Pittsburgh Steelers. These are two of the most physical, brutal, and violent football teams in the National Football League. It's not a coincidence that these are also two of the teams consistently competing for a championship. They prove that football and violence go hand-in-hand.

Yet last week there was a travesty in the NFL. There was a league wide scare when new punishments were implemented for helmet to helmet hits.

This resulted in higher scoring games because the defenses were afraid to do their job. In case no one knew, the NFL averaged 52.6 points per game last week.

That's good for the highest total in the last 20 years. Congratulations fantasy owners.

But for those of you who care about the actual game that's played on the field, I'm sure you were disappointed in the product you saw. As a sports management major I can tell you that the new punishments are strictly money related.

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Ike Taylor arm tackles Brandon Marshall last week against the Dolphins
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As it's called in Sports Marketing, "The Escalator Concept" is what is being used in this instance. The concept is simple, you have different levels of fans, from casual at the bottom to avid at the top. By scoring more points and having more high-flying action, the NFL wants to get the "casual" fans to the top of the escalator. This is a bad thing because you will lose more avid fans than you will gain casual ones.

Let's take a look at two teams and their games from last week. First, the Pittsburgh Steelers played the Miami Dolphins. The Steelers are notorious for hitting someone in the mouth. Last week was different though.

There were several instances where the defense let up instead of putting a hit on the ball carrier. They just threw their arms at him and missed the tackle. In one instance, this cost Pittsburgh a touchdown when sure-tackling Ryan Clark completely whiffed on Davone Bess. He looked like he was playing two hand touch.

There were other plays where James Harrison admittedly let up. When asked about his least productive game of the season, he had this to say.....

"That was my least productive game this year," Harrison told Josina Anderson on Inside the NFL, "We can still play the game, but it's not the same."

Inside the NFL showed multiple plays from the Steelers-Dolphins game when Harrison appeared to slow down and avoid contact, rather than accelerate and explode into a Dolphins player. Harrison said he was thinking about a suspension on those plays.

"If I shot in there I would have probably hit helmet to helmet, and I've already got one offense," Harrison said, "So I could probably be looking at a possible suspension."

After the game, Ray Anderson of the NFL applauded Harrison for letting up on the plays. Mike Tomlin responded:

"It would be tough for me to care less about their opinion, to be honest with you."

The other game was the Baltimore Ravens versus the Buffalo Bills. Now I will admit, as a Steelers fan, I enjoyed watching the score of this game and seeing Buffalo winning. That was until I saw the highlights.

Throughout the game, Buffalo was making plays that were only possible because Baltimore was letting up on defense. The game should not have been close. If the Ravens played "Raven Football", they would have controlled the entire game. Instead they looked to be playing softer than usual.

As much as I would love to see the Ravens lose, I want it to be the RAVENS that lose. Not some byproduct the NFL has created by taking away their biggest asset, fear.

By taking fear away from certain teams such as the Ravens and Steelers, you are taking away their bread and butter, their gameplan. That would be like telling the Colts they aren't allowed to pass, or the Dolphins they can't run the wildcat.

Both teams were very upset after the week, so watch them closely. The Steelers are taking on the New Orleans Saints in the Superdome. Without Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel, the rest of the defense will have to play like they are accustomed to and punish the Saints offense if they want to win.

The Ravens are on a bye, but it will still be interesting to play close attention to their practices this week. I expect Ray Lewis to give one of his famous passionate speeches to rally his team. He wants to play the game of football the way its supposed to be played and is sure to let his team know that you need to hit someone.

So from a Steelers fan talking to the Steelers and Ravens, play the game the way you have the last decade or so. What I saw last week was a travesty. It ruined the game and the competition. Besides, if both teams play hard, what is Roger Goodell going to do, suspend all of their players?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/5051 ... h-steelers (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/505144-nfl-week-8-message-to-baltimore-ravens-and-pittsburgh-steelers)