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10-21-2010, 05:23 PM
Updated: October 21, 2010

Alex Mack questions James Harrison

Associated Press


BEREA, Ohio -- Two of the nastier hits Pittsburgh linebacker James Harrison delivered on Cleveland players last Sunday are getting all the publicity. Browns center Alex Mack said there were more.

ESPN NFL analyst Mark Schlereth says the NFL appears to be hypocritical. They say they care about player safety, but then don't provide health benefits more than two years after retirement. Plus, Schlereth discusses the NFL's policy on illegal tackles.

"If you watch the game film, [Harrison] was doing that to everyone on every play," Mack said Thursday. "People would be on the ground and he would try to spear them. There's a play on film where [running back] Peyton Hillis is tackled and he comes up and spears him. It's like you're being cheap, you're being dirty."

Harrison was fined $75,000 for his hard, helmet-to-helmet hit on Browns wide receiver Mohamed Massaquoi, one of several devastating blows on an unusually violent Sunday of head-high collisions around the NFL. Harrison's hit on Massaquoi -- and one that knocked out Browns Pro Bowler Josh Cribbs on a running play -- helped prompt commissioner Roger Goodell to crack down and impose significant fines and suspensions for players for hits to the head and neck.

Neither of Harrison's hits drew penalties during the Steelers' 28-10 win. Ironically, Mack was flagged for delay of game for kicking the ball out of bounds on the play when Massaquoi was injured. Both Massaquoi and Cribbs sustained concussions and haven't practiced this week.

Mack said Harrison wasn't just hurting the Browns. He was doing damage to himself.

"The helmet-to-helmet with Cribbs is a little more innocent, to some extent," Mack said. "You're still leading with your head. It's a dumb move no matter what you do. First of all, you're ruining your own brain and you're damaging other people.

"It's your brain."

Mack is the first Cleveland player to publicly denounce Harrison as "dirty" and question his tackling tactics. In fact, a few of the Browns, including Cribbs and Hillis, said they didn't feel Harrison's hits warranted any punishment.

On his Twitter page, Cribbs wrote that he didn't believe Harrison, a former teammate at Kent State, was trying to hurt him.

"I have no bad will towards LB James Harrison," Cribbs tweeted. "That's what he's supposed to do: knock people out. It's what makes him one of the best. ... He is still my boy ... It is unfortunate, but our sport is brutal. We will both bounce back & compete again real soon. ... Oh yeah & we play each other twice!"

Browns coach Eric Mangini said Cribbs and Massaquoi have improved. He hopes both players will practice Friday. Cleveland is at New Orleans on Sunday.

Tight end Evan Moore, who sustained a concussion earlier this season against Kansas City, believes players should be reprimanded for leading with their helmets. He doesn't think Harrison was headhunting the Browns, but feels his tackling style is unwarranted.

"He was just playing his game," Moore said. "I'm not trying to say that his game is dirty. I'm just saying he's made a habit of hitting like that. I don't think launching into a guy's head makes you a tough player. Harrison is a good, strong, tough player but that's not what makes him tough and that's something I think is unnecessary."

Mack, a first-round draft pick last season from California, is pleased with the media attention being given to the violent hits, especially the ones on defenseless players. Mack believes the league should do all it can to protect and educate its players.

"A lot of the arguments right now are people are taught from Pee Wee football that this is how you play," Mack said Thursday. "Well, we need to change that. You can't be breaking your head. There are better ways to tackle. We're taught you're not supposed to spear with the top of your head."

On Wednesday, Goodell sent a memo and video to all teams explaining the reasons for the increase in penalties against offenders. He said players are expected to play within the rules, and that coaches and teams will also be subject to penalties.

Several players said they were confused about the changes, with some on the defenders' side saying they were being unfairly targeted.

"Unfortunately, defensive players look like the bad guys in this," Browns linebacker Scott Fujita said. "But there's a lot of guys on those offensive lines who are dirty, too."

Mack said it will be difficult for many coaches and players to change their ways after years of conditioning. However, in light of medical studies linking head injuries to long-term medical conditions like dementia, Mack, who hopes to play 10 years in the league, understands the urgency.

"When you're taught a certain way, you're going to keep doing it," Mack said. "It needs to change, though. I saw that 'Real Sports' show with the connection between Lou Gehrig's disease and concussions. That is scary. I was watching and thinking, 'Why am I playing this game when I could be physically handicapped for the rest of my life.?'

"It's a scary thing. It's good to see there's some progress to try and protect people."


10-21-2010, 05:52 PM
I have a suggestion for Mack. If you don't want to risk the head injury then QUIT!!

We all know it's a violent sport. You have to make a decision in your life that in order to play a game as a career and make millions there is a risk involved. Don't take the money if you aren't willing to take the risk.

Now this doesn't mean I don't want them to minimize the chance for a player getting hurt. It's just that they are doing the typical knee jerk reaction that has become common place in the Goodell regime.

I really love Mark Schlereth's (sp) comments on this issue. He pretty much went livid on ESPN about the hypocrisy of the NFL. He brought out all the points that most rational and logical people have been saying. Things like the offensive player moves and often times puts his head in harms way. That QB and Receivers are responsible for knowing who is in the area that could hit them. Plays are designed to run through zones now where before the receivers were supposed to sit down in the hole in the zone. I'll look for a link to his comments because I thought they were excellent.

Dee Dub
10-21-2010, 07:00 PM
Hilarious!! This from a guy who will probably be chop blocking and leg whipping defenders on Sunday. :roll:

10-22-2010, 12:58 AM
Hilarious!! This from a guy who will probably be chop blocking and leg whipping defenders on Sunday. :roll:

this is the same Alex Mack who last month accused a defender of grabbing his nuts...http://www.pittsburghsportstavern.com/forum/images/smilies/punchballs.gif

Tue Sep 21 12:49pm PDT

Alex Mack accuses Chiefs defender of grabbing his genitalia



I'm sorry, but any time I can put "genitalia" in a headline, I'm going to do it. I am who I am. Don't judge me.

Here's the opening paragraph from Mary Kay Cabot's article in Tuesday's Cleveland Plain Dealer, in which Alex Mack(notes) levels the junk-grabbing accusations.

Alex Mack accused former Browns defensive lineman Shaun Smith Monday of foul play during the Chiefs game, specifically grabbing his genitals during a play near the end of the first half.

Added Mack, in the most hilarious thing anyone will say all year: "I don't think he should be able to do that."

You're right, friend. He shouldn't. And do you know why? Because in a civilized society, we do not express our anger by grabbing, squeezing or twisting each other's genitals. It's simply not polite. There are rules, Smokey.

As for Smith, he denies the charges, telling AP:

"I don't have no comment. I don't recall doing anything like that. I'm not known for being a dirty player or anything like that, so I don't know what that was all about."

What it's all about, my good man, was what we call a "bad" touch. Unauthorized contact to a fellow competitor's bathing suit area. I hope you're as innocent as you say you are, because there aren't many infractions in the NFL that should be taken more seriously than genital grabbing.

There was no penalty called on the play, but only because this guy was not around to call it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdo ... nfl-271337 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Alex-Mack-accuses-Chiefs-defender-of-grabbing-hi?urn=nfl-271337)

10-22-2010, 10:04 AM
He was a draft favorite for mmany on this board. Glad is is stuck in football hell in Cleveland.

10-23-2010, 02:41 AM
Oct 22, 2010

Brian Billick to James Harrison: 'Just shut up and play'

Fox NFL analyst Brian Billick thinks Steelers LB James Harrison acted like a 'baby' when he said he would consider retirement if he couldn't play football the way he always has.

Billick, who won Super Bowl XXXV while coaching the Ravens, appeared on Fox Sports Radio's Stephen A. Smith Show on Thursday and said Harrison must adapt instead of complaining about the NFL's increased level of enforcement.

Absolutely, just shut up and play. It's like, we're going to work the whole week around your rules because you think you have to play that way? That's irritating, this is just a temper tantrum. ... But the rule is in for the safety of all the players, the hitter as well as the hittee, and it's just like the sack on the quarterback -- we've adapted.