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PSU_dropout43
10-11-2010, 04:34 PM
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Browns signed old Eric Mangini buddy Brett Ratliff off the Patriots practice squad. Ratliff is expected to back up Colt McCoy, who looks to be in line for his first NFL start on Sunday against the Steelers. (Gulp.) Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme are both battling high ankle sprains.

hawaiiansteel
10-11-2010, 04:40 PM
the Brownies would be better off starting Josh Cribbs than Colt McCoy...

proudpittsburgher
10-11-2010, 05:35 PM
I just saw this on ESPN, and wanted to start a thread on it. Man, it could get really, really really ugly for the brownies if McCoy starts for them. Oh my, I actually feel sorry for them, just a little bit.

The Man of Steel
10-11-2010, 05:50 PM
Now that McCoy is starting I'm going to predict 4 picks and 6 sacks for our defense in this one.

proudpittsburgher
10-11-2010, 06:54 PM
Now that McCoy is starting I'm going to predict 4 picks and 6 sacks for our defense in this one.

The dude in Chicago had four picks yesterday and that was after a little bit of playing time under his belt the week before. I say McCoy has three picks and he shats his pants before the first quarter is over. Aftre that, anything can happen.

Sugar
10-11-2010, 07:01 PM
So, will it be Mr. Harrison or Mr. Woodley that will be welcoming the young man to the NFL?

Chavezz
10-11-2010, 07:09 PM
I fully expect to see a lot of run, run, wild cat. If Hillis is injured, I can see this game really getting out of hand on defense.

BUT! How many times have we made scrub QB's look like all pros. It seems like every time we play one of those types of QB's they have their "first" whatever against us. Don't get me wrong, I see a win and and a fairly easy one but don't be surprised Sunday when McCoy plays a little better than what we all expect.

skyhawk
10-11-2010, 07:12 PM
I fully expect to see a lot of run, run, wild cat. If Hillis is injured, I can see this game really getting out of hand on defense.

BUT! How many times have we made scrub QB's look like all pros. It seems like every time we play one of those types of QB's they have their "first" whatever against us. Don't get me wrong, I see a win and and a fairly easy one but don't be surprised Sunday when McCoy plays a little better than what we all expect.

Yup, the Steelers always make it a little harder on themselves than they should. :HeadBanger

Stewie
10-11-2010, 07:33 PM
Dean Werner...dead. Niedermeyer...dead. Colt McCoy....dead.

JTP53609
10-11-2010, 09:06 PM
yea, but max hall beat the super bowl champs in his first career start yesterday, so stranger things have happened, mccoy is the best college qb in terms of wins ever....so he knows how to play and how to win, they will not win, but lets not think that just bc he is starting that the game is over......frankly i wish delhomme would have started instead

ikestops85
10-11-2010, 09:31 PM
I would have rather faced Wallace or Delhomme. We have a way of easing up on inferior or new QBs. I remember Ely Manning's rookie year ... he had looked horrible all year and we were on our way to a 15-1 season. We beat the Giants that day but Manning looked more like his brother.

I would love for us to blow them out but that isn't my feeling. I think we will win but we always seem to make it hard on ourselves.

ROLROC
10-11-2010, 11:02 PM
Don't understand some of these comments. We will destroy the browns with mccoy at qb.

Sugar
10-11-2010, 11:32 PM
Don't understand some of these comments. We will destroy the browns with mccoy at qb.

On paper, you are indeed correct. However, many posters are just commenting based on recent Steeler history, that's all.

hawaiiansteel
10-12-2010, 12:17 AM
Don't understand some of these comments. We will destroy the browns with mccoy at qb.

On paper, you are indeed correct. However, many posters are just commenting based on recent Steeler history, that's all.



doesn't matter, I'm with ROLROC on this one...Colt McCoy does not have any chance of succeeding against this Steelers defense whatsoever.



Monday, October 11, 2010

McCoy vs. Steelers a recipe for disaster

By James Walker

Because of ankle injuries to veterans Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace, rookie quarterback Colt McCoy reportedly could start for Cleveland on Sunday. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Browns signed Brett Ratliff, who was told he's the backup for McCoy in the Week 6 rivalry game against the Pittsburgh Steelers (3-1). Ratliff was one of the Browns' final cuts this summer.

This was not in the plans for Browns president Mike Holmgren and head coach Eric Mangini, who didn't provide specifics on the quarterback situation Monday. Both have said they expect McCoy, a third-round pick, to sit at least one year to learn from the sidelines. But very little has gone according to plan for the struggling Browns (1-4), and now McCoy looks to get the nod just six weeks into the season.

If McCoy is viewed as the future of the Browns, they must be very careful about the long-term impact of this decision. Throwing McCoy out there at Heinz Field against Dick LeBeau's defense is a recipe for disaster. In fact, it's the last defense I would pick a rookie quarterback to face in his first NFL start, especially against a hungry Steelers' defense coming off a bye week.

Expect the sharks for Pittsburgh -- James Harrison, LaMarr Woodley, Troy Polamalu, Casey Hampton, Aaron Smith, James Farrior, Lawrence Timmons, etc. -- to be out in full force Sunday. I'm sure a wide-eyed McCoy is excited for the opportunity, but in reality he's just fresh meat.

I said in training camp that if McCoy starts, that's a sign Cleveland's 2010 season is over. I picked the Browns to finish last in the AFC North this year, but this ship is sinking faster than expected.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/print?id=18798

chiken
10-12-2010, 07:37 AM
We could murder Colt Mccoy and still lose this game if our O-line gets "confused" again...

last year they threw for like 90 on us and won.. I am willing to gamble and say Colt at least throws for 112.

Oviedo
10-12-2010, 07:55 AM
If Ben is rusty and their defense steps up it could come down to a special teams play or two. They have Josh Cribbs. Enough said!!!!! We can't take anything for granted.

steelblood
10-12-2010, 08:01 AM
I don't see this as a done deal. Delhomme could still play.

Also, McCoy is VERY mobile. Sacking him 6 times likely won't happen. The Browns have a decent Oline. They will run the ball. McCoy will run the ball and roll out. We will see a lot of Cribbs at QB too. The only way McCoy gets sacked a bunch is if we get a big lead early. Then, the Browns will have to throw more than they'd like.

feltdizz
10-12-2010, 08:09 AM
Colt McCoy won't last a quarter... he is tiny. One hit by Timmons or Harrison and he is done.

steelblood
10-12-2010, 08:59 AM
If Ben is rusty and their defense steps up it could come down to a special teams play or two. They have Josh Cribbs. Enough said!!!!! We can't take anything for granted.

I have to hate Cribbs because of the jersey he wears. But, man, I respect the way he plays and his open-field running.

ramblinjim
10-12-2010, 09:01 AM
If Ben is rusty and their defense steps up it could come down to a special teams play or two. They have Josh Cribbs. Enough said!!!!! We can't take anything for granted.

I have to hate Cribbs because of the jersey he wears. But, man, I respect the way he plays and his open-field running.


Yeah, me too. He would look awesome in the Black and Gold huh?

ramblinjim
10-12-2010, 09:04 AM
Ahh....see I see this as our "trap" game. Cleveland has been playing hard but coming up short, have a new QB that we don't have any tape on and a QB coming back from four weeks off. I was at that Giants / Steelers game in the 2005 season where we made the rookie Eli look like Payton and the rook QB bothers me just a little bit.

I don't see us losing this game because we're the better team and I think our boys are playing hungry but I don't see a 48-0 smack down either.

sentinel33
10-12-2010, 10:56 AM
This game will be a rout but it wont happen til the second half. The steelers are pretty tough to beat when given 2 weeks to prepare for an opponent. Just dont want to look past the browns. And yeah, Cribbs is a bad ass and we have to shut him down. He's the only weapon they have for us to be worried about. Should be a Steeler.

Oviedo
10-12-2010, 11:17 AM
I see us scoring about 20-23 points as the offense tries to find their footing with Ben back there plus the Stains defense has been playing very well. I could see a couple of INTs coming from Ben and derailing a drive or two as he tries to force the issue and prove something which for him is when bad things happen.

I just can't see the Stains scoring more than 13 points unless they get some big plays on specials teams.

Result will be a win but not a big one. Then again I would love to be wrong about this.

feltdizz
10-12-2010, 11:18 AM
I don't see this as a done deal. Delhomme could still play.

Also, McCoy is VERY mobile. Sacking him 6 times likely won't happen. The Browns have a decent Oline. They will run the ball. McCoy will run the ball and roll out. We will see a lot of Cribbs at QB too. The only way McCoy gets sacked a bunch is if we get a big lead early. Then, the Browns will have to throw more than they'd like.

this isn't college...

aggiebones
10-12-2010, 11:19 AM
This is no trap game. Delhomme, Wallace, Cribbs. We beat them all into the ground. They are mediocre and we will be hyped after the bye week.

If McCoy starts, it could be grotesque. He's not very good and he's a coward. He literally could shat his pants. Texas was so deep that they made him look decent.

Frankly, the Browns should be ashamed of themselves if they start McCoy. There are other vets they could use for a week or two and frankly, they are probably better than Wallace or Delhomme anyway. I'm not sure what they are doing. Look at their QB tree, I'd puke if I was a Brown.
They have old and bad, athletic and bad, young and bad.
Fat, drunk and stupid is not way to go through life.

Oviedo
10-12-2010, 11:24 AM
This is no trap game. Delhomme, Wallace, Cribbs. We beat them all into the ground. They are mediocre and we will be hyped after the bye week.

If McCoy starts, it could be grotesque. He's not very good and he's a coward. He literally could shat his pants. Texas was so deep that they made him look decent.

Frankly, the Browns should be ashamed of themselves if they start McCoy. There are other vets they could use for a week or two and frankly, they are probably better than Wallace or Delhomme anyway. I'm not sure what they are doing. Look at their QB tree, I'd puke if I was a Brown.
They have old and bad, athletic and bad, young and bad.
Fat, drunk and stupid is not way to go through life.

I think you just took a big swig out of the bottle...vintage wishful thinking. This is a rivalry game and the Browns defense is good.

Ben will not come back and play perfect and that usually means INTs as he forces passes.

I do hope you are right and I am wrong but this is the type of game we tend to blow especially after the bye.

Ghost
10-12-2010, 11:34 AM
Ben may be rusty at first but he's coming back with a hell of a lot to prove. If he can just get a little time he can have a big game. Expect multiple long throws to Wallace. I think he gets Ward and Miller highly involved as well.

And this defense is pissed about allowing the ravens to score at the end of the game. HUGE chip on their shoulders. McCoy was the third string and is getting his first start ever. It will be a shocking disgrace if the D doesn't eat him alive.

I AM SO FIRED UP ABOUT THIS GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :brownssuck

Mister Pittsburgh
10-12-2010, 12:19 PM
So, will it be Mr. Harrison or Mr. Woodley that will be welcoming the young man to the NFL?

Neither. Since it is a rookie QB I am sure the refs will have their flags superglued to their pockets when their linemen tackle our LB's or jump offsides well before the snap.

RuthlessBurgher
10-12-2010, 12:31 PM
Matt Ryan had never faced a LeBeau defense before. Steeler D leads us to a win.

Vince Young had never faced a LeBeau defense before. Steeler D leads us to a win.

Josh Freeman had never faced a LeBeau defense before. Steeler D leads us to a win.

Colt McCoy has never faced a LeBeau defense before. Steeler D will lead us to a win.

flippy
10-12-2010, 01:55 PM
Matt Ryan had never faced a LeBeau defense before. Steeler D leads us to a win.

Vince Young had never faced a LeBeau defense before. Steeler D leads us to a win.

Josh Freeman had never faced a LeBeau defense before. Steeler D leads us to a win.

Colt McCoy has never faced a LeBeau defense before. Steeler D will lead us to a win.

$

Mr T pities Colt McCoy.

hawaiiansteel
10-12-2010, 07:31 PM
Mr T pities Colt McCoy.


Colt McCoy is going to get fed to the Lions...I mean Steelers.


http://www.maniacworld.com/lions-vs-everything.jpg

fordfixer
10-13-2010, 01:43 AM
This time both teams have QB issues

By Bob Labriola – Steelers Digest

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/ ... 30367a3022 (http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/This-time-both-teams-have-QB-issues/a50ca97a-9dd3-407f-b7e5-d530367a3022)

As usual, in this season of uncharted quarterback waters for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Coach Mike Tomlin spent a good bit of time during his weekly news conference answering questions about the position. Only this time, the questions were about both teams’ quarterbacks.

As has been known and anticipated for weeks, Sunday’s 1 p.m. date with the Cleveland Browns at Heinz Field will mark the occasion of Ben Roethlisberger’s 2010 debut, and the timing of the bye week has provided an extra seven days for the hype to build.

But whether Steelers fans ultimately view Sunday as a success will be determined by the game’s final score, and the opposition the Browns will be able to provide is going to be impacted by their own quarterback situation.

This season opened for the Browns with veteran Jake Delhomme as the starter, but his injured ankle elevated Seneca Wallace into the starter’s role for the following week’s game. Wallace started four games in a row, before sustaining an ankle injury of his own during the first half of last Sunday’s game against the Atlanta Falcons, which meant Delhomme had to come on to play despite not being completely healed himself.

During what turned out to be a loss to the Falcons that dropped the Browns to 1-4, Delhomme is reported to have re-injured the ankle that had yet to heal completely. Tomlin was asked, where does that leave the Browns in terms of a starting quarterback for this week’s game against the Steelers?

“I have no idea. And I’m really not overly concerned with it,” said Tomlin. “Those are their issues, like our quarterback issues have been ours. They are a professional football team. I’m sure whomever they put in there is going to be capable. We’re going to have to respect them whether it’s Seneca Wallace, Jake Delhomme or Colt McCoy, or for that matter, Josh Cribbs. They are going to snap it to someone. We’ve got to be prepared.”

If the Browns snap it to McCoy, it will be the first of his fledgling NFL career. In a section of the Browns’ weekly news release titled, “Interesting Player Facts,” McCoy is noted as a three-time Academic All-Big 12 selection, as a student who traveled to Peru to do missionary work on a spring break during his time at Texas, and as a featured speaker representing the Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

Nothing about football, because McCoy’s last on-field action came in the preseason finale when he completed 13-of-13 for 131 yards against the Chicago Bears. His complete preseason body of work read: 28-of-39 for 232 yards with no touchdowns and two interceptions. That computes to a passer rating of 65.33, and he also was sacked six times. The closest he has been to the field since came during the three games this season in which he served as Wallace’s backup.

“Believe me, there’s a lot that can happen between now and Wednesday with Jake, with Seneca, with roster moves,” Browns Coach Eric Mangini told the Cleveland media on Monday. “There’s a lot of moving parts here, so it’s hard for me to give you anything that definitive because there’s nothing definitive to give right now.”

Mangini might perceive nothing as being definitive, but there have been reports that the Browns signed quarterback Brett Ratliff off the New England practice squad, as well as a report that Mangini is preparing to start McCoy, the team’s third-round draft pick last April, at Heinz Field.

“Look, I’ve played with a ton of rookies at different spots, and at some point, everybody has to start their first game,” said Mangini. “At some point, everybody has to get their chance. To me, that’s what all these guys are looking for, that moment to show what they can do. They’ve played football their whole lives and a situation like Colt’s, he has been a very successful quarterback for a long time. I’m sure he’s chomping at the bit to get his first chance to do that.”

Chomping at the bit seems a suitable phrase to describe Roethlisberger, who watched his teammates forge a 3-1 record in his absence.

“He always (provides a morale boost) because he is a ridiculous competitor,” said Tomlin about Roethlisberger. “When he has an opportunity to compete, you feel him in the room or in the stadium. One of the interesting attributes about him as a player and as a person, when faced with adversity and given the opportunity to compete, man he does. I think guys feed off that.”

Tomlin also allowed that while some of Sunday afternoon could be spent riding the wave accompanying Roethlisberger’s return, another part of it must be dedicated to dealing with Joshua Cribbs, the Browns’ wildcat-running, kick-returning, pass-receiving weapon extraordinaire who has had his share of highlight reel moments vs. the Steelers.

In games vs. the Steelers, Cribbs has returned kickoffs for 98, 100 and 92 yards – all for touchdowns – and a punt for 55 yards. In two games last season, he rushed for 132 yards on 14 carries while operating out of the Cleveland version of the wildcat.

“I think we should expect to see a great deal of Cribbs in the wildcat regardless of their quarterback situation because he had such success against us a year ago, and that’s usually the nature of the league and that’s what makes it so awesome,” said Tomlin. “When you show areas of deficiency, usually you are going to continue to see those challenges until you fix it. We didn’t fix it in that football game. We will have an opportunity to fix it in this one and if we don’t, we are going to see quite a bit of it.”

Tomlin figures he’s going to see a lot of Cribbs with the ball in his hands come Sunday afternoon, and Mangini has some expectation of what his team can expect from the Steelers, whether his starting quarterback is the rookie McCoy or a hobbled Wallace/Delhomme.

“It’s only the Steelers, right?” said Mangini with a touch of sarcasm. “Coming off a bye week? They don’t blitz much.”

fordfixer
10-13-2010, 01:52 AM
Colt McCoy in line to start against Steelers
By Scott Brown, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, October 13, 2010
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... 04006.html (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_704006.html)

» With veteran quarterbacks Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme nursing ankle injuries, rookie Colt McCoy is in line to make his first career start Sunday when the Browns visit Heinz Field. No matter who gets the nod at quarterback, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said he also expects Browns wide receiver/return specialist Josh Cribbs to take significant snaps at the position. The Browns have employed Cribbs in the past against the Steelers as a quarterback in their "Wildcat" offense. In the two rivals' meetings last season Cribbs rushed for a combined 132 yards on just 14 carries.

» The Steelers are as healthy as they have been since the early part of September. Right guard Trai Essex is the only player whose status is in question because of an injury. Essex, who has missed the last two games because of a high-ankle sprain, did some individual work Monday at practice. Nose tackle Chris Hoke, who missed the Steelers' game against the Ravens with a sprained knee, practiced and is close to full strength, Tomlin said. "Chris Hoke doesn't appear to be limited in any form or fashion," Tomlin said.

» The ongoing competition between rookie wide receivers Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders may have tilted in favor of the latter. Tomlin said yesterday that he hasn't decided who will return kickoffs and punts Sunday — something Brown has done since the second game of the season. He said Sanders, who has not dressed since the season opener, is a candidate to do both against the Browns.

Tomlin's take

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin on a variety of subjects:

On whether the Steelers will kick the ball away from Browns return man Josh Cribbs:

"Weather is an element. We've faced him, at times, where we'd like to keep the ball away from him, and the climate has dictated that we weren't given that option. I don't anticipate the weather being as severe this time, but that's a plan that we develop throughout the week with the elements being an element of it. He's always been a thorn in our sides."

On the Browns, who are in last place in the AFC North:

"They're 1-4, yes, but they've probably played the toughest schedule to this point in the NFL. They're better than their record."

On returning following a bye:

"I always view the bye week with mixed emotions. It's always good to step away and reflect a little bit, self-evaluate, make potential corrections and grow. But at the same time, you're always nervous when you miss out on some action and there's always some anxiety that comes with getting back to action."

On Browns running back Peyton Hillis, who has rushed for 350 yards and scored five touchdowns:

"He's a rough-and-tumble guy that wears you down. They've pounded some teams with him, the Baltimore Ravens included in that."

On the prevalence of players using social media:

"We've got a general rule here. I don't care whether they Tweet. I just don't want them to Tweet business in any form or fashion. I'm not opposed to guys Tweeting or Facebooking or whatever it is they do now. Just don't talk about my business."

On if this is where he thought the Steelers would be at the quarter point of their season:

"I thought we'd be 4-0, but we're 3-1 and we're moving forward."

fordfixer
10-13-2010, 02:26 AM
Colt McCoy leads the Browns over the Steelers! Now what? Poll
Published: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 8:27 AM Updated: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 8:55 AM
Chuck Yarborough, The Plain Dealer
http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-bl ... ns_ov.html (http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2010/10/colt_mccoy_leads_the_browns_ov.html)

The Plain DealerColt McCoy is likely to draw his first NFL start as quarterback of the Cleveland Browns against the Pittsburgh Steelers. What if lightning strikes and he wins?

Cleveland, Ohio -- Yeah, it's a teensy bit premature. Also optimistic, fantastic and darn near ludicrous. But stranger things have happened. Julia Roberts married Lyle Lovett. William Hung got a record deal. Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson. Brett Favre retired and stayed that way.

Oh, well. Three out of four ain't bad.

But let's play the what-if game. The Browns have 11 games remaining on the regular season schedule. The ankle injuries to starter Jake Delhomme and backup Seneca Wallace are pretty darn severe, and of the ilk that usually means a four- to six-week hiatus. Delhomme, 35, could be hobbled even longer; sadly, Starting Blocks is of the age to know that a few more rings in the tree trunk mean healing takes a bit longer.

McCoy's task isn't made any easier by the strained quad bulldog back Peyton Hillis suffered in practice last week and aggravated in the loss to the Falcons. Or the fact that this is Ben Roethlisberger's first action after serving a four-game suspension for violating the league's personal conduct policy. Or that the Steelers are still hacked over the Browns essentially driving the final nail in their playoff hopes last year with a 13-6 win in a blizzard here in Cleveland.

But let's just say the kid pulls it off. After all, he came from a big-time college program, set records for completions and accuracy and pretty much grew up with a football in his hand. Aside from quaffing a few celebratory Lone Star beers (which, SB, being a Texas native can tell you, is only slightly better than the legendary Pride of Cleveland), what does the Browns brass do?

sentinel33
10-13-2010, 11:10 AM
Tomlin is full of $#!+ if he thinks anyone will believe him when he says he thought the steelers would be 4-0. But i guess he has to say that. Either way its DOOM for the clowneys. its a run the ball - play defense - control the clock game plan for a win. Very simple. no need to showcase the 2-time winning SB QB. Step by step. let the guy open it up a bit against miami. ease into it. just tap it in. give it a little tappy. thats all

feltdizz
10-13-2010, 11:34 AM
Tomlin is full of $#!+ if he thinks anyone will believe him when he says he thought the steelers would be 4-0. But i guess he has to say that. Either way its DOOM for the clowneys. its a run the ball - play defense - control the clock game plan for a win. Very simple. no need to showcase the 2-time winning SB QB. Step by step. let the guy open it up a bit against miami. ease into it. just tap it in. give it a little tappy. thats all

Why wouldn't Tomlin believe they would start out 4-0?

Now if Tomlin said he thought they would be 4-0 due to our passing game I would call him out on it.

It's his job to think they should win every week. Who wants a coach who thinks they will lose?

RuthlessBurgher
10-13-2010, 12:33 PM
Tomlin is full of $#!+ if he thinks anyone will believe him when he says he thought the steelers would be 4-0. But i guess he has to say that. Either way its DOOM for the clowneys. its a run the ball - play defense - control the clock game plan for a win. Very simple. no need to showcase the 2-time winning SB QB. Step by step. let the guy open it up a bit against miami. ease into it. just tap it in. give it a little tappy. thats all

Tap tap taparoo...

Son of a b!tch ball.

Why didn't you just go home?

That's your home.

Are you too good for your home?

ANSWER ME!!!

Suck my white @ss ball!

Jigawatts
10-13-2010, 01:19 PM
I almost feel bad for McCoy (not really). I have a feeling he's going to break some McRibs.

RuthlessBurgher
10-13-2010, 01:22 PM
I almost feel bad for McCoy (not really). I have a feeling he's going to break some McRibs.

McRibs are easy (but sloppy) to break. Fake @$$ bones.

http://www.slashfood.com/media/2006/02/mcrib-sandwich.jpg

PSU_dropout43
10-13-2010, 01:31 PM
Sports Science on Colt McCoy:

[espn:1xb2m99i]4802326[/espn:1xb2m99i]

redundantman
10-13-2010, 01:36 PM
What is the over/under on the number of minutes it will take we see a dorky network graphic detailing Colt's stats with the title "The Real McCoy"?

10? ... 15? ...

RuthlessBurgher
10-13-2010, 01:42 PM
Perhaps the Steeler D should replace their jersey nameplates so they all read "Hatfield" :wink:

hawaiiansteel
10-13-2010, 03:54 PM
10 reasons why McCoy can succeed

by MARLA RIDENOUR on OCTOBER 12, 2010


With both Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace reportedly suffering from high ankle sprains, it appears Browns rookie quarterback Colt McCoy will make his first NFL start Sunday at Pittsburgh.

As daunting as that sounds, a friend from Hartford, CT made a strong case via email why McCoy can succeed. It must be pointed out that the friend is a graduate of the University of Texas, where McCoy went 45-8 as a four-year starter to become the winningest quarterback in NCAA history.

Here are his 10 reasons to believe in McCoy. My comments/additions are in parentheses:

1. A healthy McCoy isn’t any less of an athlete than Seneca Wallace. He can use his feet to buy time. (At Texas, McCoy rushed 447 times for 1,571 yards and 20 TDs.)

2. If he can put the ball where he wants to, his accuracy will help move the chains. (McCoy’s career completion percentage of 70.33 ranks second in NCAA history between the 70.39 of Hawaii’s Colt Brennan.)

3. There is less of a book on him than the others.

4. If you run a good amount of Wildcat, Colt will have fewer opportunities to get hit. (In the Browns’ 13-6 home victory over the Steelers on Dec. 10, 2009, Joshua Cribbs rushed eight times for 87 yards.)

5. If the defense plays as well as it did the last time they played, Colt won’t have to do much. (In that 2009 Browns victory, the Steelers managed 218 net yards, netted 77 yards on the ground and converted 3 of 14 on third down.)

6. He’s been underestimated every step of the way and he will rise to the occasion. (Despite his college honors, McCoy slipped to the third round of the draft, going 85th overall.)

7. He’s a coach’s kid and he’s smart. (McCoy’s father, Brad, was his coach at Jim Ned High School in Tuscola, Texas, where McCoy went 34-2 as a starter.)

8. He knows how to win games when he isn’t effective.

9. He’s mentally tough. He’s faced the best defensive players in college who form the basis of the NFL and he’s succeeded.

10. After performing in the intensity of games against the likes of Oklahoma, Nebraska and Ohio State, do you really think he’s going to be fazed by 60,000 western Pennsylvanians waving yellow towels?

http://marla.ohio.com/2010/10/10-reason ... n-succeed/ (http://marla.ohio.com/2010/10/10-reasons-why-mccoy-can-succeed/)

feltdizz
10-13-2010, 04:16 PM
Marla must be from Texas. If McCoy tries to run it's a wrap.

I'm not trying to be rude but the only way this kid wins the game for the Browns is on Madden 2011.

hawaiiansteel
10-13-2010, 09:27 PM
Steelers not overlooking Colt McCoy

October, 13, 2010
By James Walker

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PITTSBURGH --The Steelers (3-1), coming off a bye week, are huge favorites in Sunday's game against the Cleveland Browns. A major reason is the struggling Browns (1-4) are expected to start rookie quarterback Colt McCoy in his first NFL game.

Injuries have thrust Colt McCoy into the starting job sooner than anyone expected.
But the Steelers are not underestimating McCoy, who was the winningest quarterback in college football history at the University of Texas. Most, including the AFC North blog, don't expect McCoy to have much success against Dick LeBeau's physical and complicated defense. Yet Pittsburgh is taking this challenge seriously.

"He's a quarterback in the NFL," Steelers Pro Bowl linebacker James Harrison said Wednesday. "That means he has the ability to do it. So we're not lighting up about anything."

Steelers defensive lineman Evander "Ziggy" Hood is probably the last Pittsburgh player to overlook McCoy. Hood, a University of Missouri alum, faced McCoy three times in the Big 12 and was winless in three attempts.

According to Hood, McCoy's versatility and playmaking ability are two concerns for Pittsburgh's defense.

"He can do it all -- run, pass, paint the fence and walk the dog," Hood recalls of his college games against McCoy. "Whenever he gets in, he's going to make something happen."

Pittsburgh lost to Cleveland in its previous meeting. The loss didn't sit well with the Steelers, who have dominated the Browns the past several years.

With all the hype about quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's return and low expectations for McCoy, the Steelers want to avoid a letdown.

"We're talking about the Browns; you guys [the media] are talking about Ben," Steelers receiver Hines Ward said. "Even though their record doesn't indicate it, they're still playing good football. A play here and there, and their record could easily be 3-2 or 4-1 the other way."

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hawaiiansteel
10-13-2010, 10:31 PM
McCoy likely starter

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Colt McCoy (AP photo)

By Jim Wexell
SteelCityInsider.net
Posted Oct 13, 2010


PITTSBURGH – The Steelers and Cleveland Browns are experiencing change at the quarterback position this week, and fittingly the Browns are coming up well short in the deal.

While the 3-1 Steelers welcome back starter Ben Roethlisberger, the 1-4 Browns are “leaning” to untested rookie Colt McCoy to replace veterans Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme, who both missed practice Wednesday with (high) sprained ankles.

Both Wallace and Delhomme are expected to miss Sunday’s game between the teams at Heinz Field, and Browns coach Eric Mangini said he was leaning to McCoy over recently acquired Brett Ratliff, whom the Browns cut after training camp.

Mangini didn’t rule out Ratliff, a project of his ever since Mangini’s days as coach of the New York Jets. Mangini, though, chose McCoy over Ratliff only six weeks ago after McCoy completed all 13 passes in his final preseason game.

McCoy finished the preseason with a passer rating of 61.1. Ratliff’s was 40.6.

“I have confidence in Colt and I have confidence in Brett,” Mangini told Cleveland reporters on Wednesday. “But I want to take a look at the practice, too. (McCoy)’ll get a majority of the reps.”

McCoy, a four-year starter at Texas, holds the NCAA record with 45 wins as a starting quarterback. He was the Heisman Trophy runner-up as a junior, yet wasn’t drafted in 2010 until the 21st position of the third round.

Last season McCoy left the national championship game after the fifth snap when he was hit in his non-throwing shoulder by star Alabama defensive tackle Marcel Dareus. X-rays were negative, and McCoy reportedly begged to re-enter the game, but a group, said by ESPN sideline reporter Lisa Salters to have included the Texas team doctor, coach Mack Brown and McCoy’s father Brad, told McCoy “he needs to be concerned and take care of his NFL future.”

That future appears to be now against the Steelers, who were also on the other side of NFL starting debuts by quarterbacks John Elway and Brett Favre.

Elway and his Denver Broncos lost to Jack Lambert and the Steelers, 14-10, in 1983, but Favre and his Green Bay Packers beat Greg Lloyd and the Steelers, 17-3, in 1992.

Is the 6-1, 211-pound McCoy ready to take on this Steelers defense?

“I would think he probably is,” said nose tackle Casey Hampton. “He’s the type of guy who’s not going to go out there and bomb.”

Hampton, of course, is a former Longhorn who watched McCoy play throughout his Texas career, and he’s a bit fond of him.

“I hope he does bad,” Hampton said. “And then late in the game, after it’s pretty much over, I hope he does well.”

If McCoy can’t move the Browns, Ratliff would likely take over. He’s been a project of Mangini’s ever since the 6-4, 224-pounder came out of Utah following an 8-5 2006 season. Ratliff signed as an undrafted free agent in 2007 and stayed on the Jets’ practice squad throughout the season. He made the active roster in 2008 but didn’t play.

“He’s a confident quarterback with nice size and a nice arm,” said former Ute and Steelers rookie Stevenson Sylvester.

Mangini must agree. He traded for Ratliff after becoming Cleveland’s coach in 2009. Ratliff stayed with the Browns throughout the season, but again didn’t see any action.

The Browns cut him following their 2010 camp, and Ratliff spent three weeks on the Jacksonville practice squad and a week on the New England practice squad before Mangini came calling again this week.

Of course, Mangini doesn’t believe it’ll matter which player makes his NFL debut against the Steelers, and he’s probably right, considering the Steelers are 14-point favorites.

“To beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh, regardless of who's the quarterback, you better play smart, you better play tough and you better be consistent through four quarters because they're going to be consistent through four quarters and they're going to be tough and it's going to be loud,” said Mangini.

“There are no trick plays. There's no microwave answer to beating these guys. This is a solid football team in all three phases that are tough and are tough at home. You better be ready to meet that intensity and meet it head on, and if you aren't then you've got problems.”

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grotonsteel
10-14-2010, 11:01 AM
If McCoy is a starter Steelers should win unless O turns the ball over.

Steelers need to stop Cribbs.

Also has anyone seen Peyton run?? Is Peyton's running style like Fred Taylor?? If so then i would be a worried man.

RuthlessBurgher
10-14-2010, 01:46 PM
"He can do it all -- run, pass, paint the fence and walk the dog," Hood recalls of his college games against McCoy. "Whenever he gets in, he's going to make something happen."

If I were Dick LeBeau, I would focus on stopping the run and pass. I wouldn't spend too much time in practice this week preparing for McCoys fence-painting and dog-walking skills. :lol:

kindlecatsb'ng
10-15-2010, 12:25 PM
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Here is an article in Plain Dealer about what to expect about Colt McCoy starting--has a poll with it.

:tt1

Kindle

feltdizz
10-15-2010, 12:28 PM
McCoy looks like a baby... and the last time I watched him play he acted like one.

Jigawatts
10-15-2010, 01:39 PM
McCoy looks like a baby... and the last time I watched him play he acted like one.

He looks like Malcom in the Middle

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williar
10-15-2010, 09:26 PM
The steelers have the tendency to play passively against inferior competition. Instead of going into the game of putting their foots on the brownies throats and never letting up. I can see us doing just enough to get by. I mean this team has had some of its most humiliating defeats against some of the loser teams.

I'll never forget in 2007 those losses to the stinking jets, and didn't then rookie Jay Cutler light us up in Denver with that loser bunch? And don't get me started on last year.

With this being Ben's first game back he'll probably be pressing and make some mistakes early on until he gets settled in. Of course I expect a victory, but I'm not buying into all this bravado being thrown around out there.

Slapstick
10-15-2010, 10:46 PM
Colt McCoy's First NFL Start: Sunday, 10/17/10, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 1:00 pm

Colt McCoy's Funeral: Tuesday, 10/19/10, Austin, Texas, 11:00 am

hawaiiansteel
10-16-2010, 02:28 PM
"Go time" for Colt McCoy

Posted by Mike Florio on October 16, 2010


After Texas quarterback Colt McCoy fell to the Browns in the third round of the 2010 draft, team president Mike Holmgren was clear. "I don't expect him to play this year," Holmgren said.

But expectations have a way of changing, especially when the two quarterbacks in front of McCoy on the depth chart have ankle injuries that will prevent them from playing.

So now it's "go time," as Browns offensive coordinator Brian Daboll said on Friday, per the Associated Press.

"He's facing the No. 1 defense in the league," Daboll said. "What better way than to start out against the Pittsburgh Steelers? This is what he's always dreamed of."

Some dreams have a way of dissolving into nightmares, and the Steelers have a couple of guys on defense who can do things to McCoy that would make Freddy Krueger wet his pants.

Part of the concern among Browns fans (and, presumably, within the building) is that McCoy struggled in training camp and the preseason, to the point where the team at least pondered the possibility of cutting him. Daboll thinks that McCoy has improved since then.

"In practices, he's been better," Daboll said in comments circulated by the team. "Those preseason games early on and as you get going later in those quarters, it's difficult sometimes. Not just where he's playing, but you have got a lot of guys around you that haven't played together and certain things. Each week, he's progressed. This is the week he's had his opportunity out there on the field pretty much every play in practice. He's rolling with it."

("Rolling" is something that the Browns hope McCoy's head won't be doing.)

So, yes, it's "go time" for Colt McCoy. The only question is whether the turf at Heinz Field will also be McCoy's personal Green Mile.

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Djfan
10-17-2010, 12:47 AM
Colt McCoy's First NFL Start: Sunday, 10/17/10, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 1:00 pm

Colt McCoy's Funeral: Tuesday, 10/19/10, Austin, Texas, 11:00 am

That's just flat funny!