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hawaiiansteel
10-11-2010, 02:37 PM
Cleveland 'had bead on Ben'

Monday, October 11, 2010
By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


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CLEVELAND -- Your team is 1-4, already buried in the AFC North Division and looking at an eighth consecutive season without the playoffs. You were just beaten at home, 20-10, by the Atlanta Falcons in a game when it became more evident than ever that you don't have a quarterback or an offense of which to speak. But it could be worse. You have that next game to anticipate. It's more than just another game. It's against the hated Steelers Sunday at Heinz Field, a game in which quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will play for the first time this season. If that doesn't get you excited, knowing that a lot of eyeballs across America will be watching to see how Big Ben does, well ...

Trust me, the Cleveland Browns are excited.

"I expect him to come out and be Ben Roethlisberger," Browns outside linebacker Marcus Benard said Sunday. "You hear people say, 'He's a great quarterback. You can't get to him. You can't get him down.' But if you're a pass-rusher like I am, you raise your hand and say, 'I can.' My job is to get after those great quarterbacks. I welcome that challenge. This team welcomes that challenge."

It will be a confident Browns defense that comes to town, that 1-4 record be damned. The unit gave up just one touchdown to the Falcons, a 45-yard pass from quarterback Matt Ryan to Pro Bowl wide receiver Roddy White, who beat cornerback Sheldon Brown to the post midway through the third quarter. "We've been a solid defense from Day 1, but we've been beating ourselves with big plays and miscommunications," Benard said. White's catch was the fourth touchdown pass of at least 27 yards against the Browns this season.

That should make Roethlisberger smile.

Then again, maybe not.

When the Steelers and Browns previously played, the Browns' defense was virtually impenetrable. Despite being ranked last in the NFL and playing without five injured starters, it kept the Steelers from scoring a touchdown in a 13-6 win on a frigid December night next to Lake Erie. Roethlisberger was sacked eight times, twice by Benard. The Steelers converted just 3 of 14 third-down situations. It wasn't just their fifth consecutive loss, effectively ending their playoff hopes. It was one of the worst losses in franchise history. The Browns came in 1-11 and had lost 12 in a row in the rivalry by an average score of 28-12.

"I'm pretty sure Ben remembers that night," defensive back Mike Adams said, grinning.

The Browns are expecting Roethlisberger's best even if he missed the Steelers' first four games and the practices before each because of his NFL-mandated suspension. "I'm hoping he's rusty, but I expect he'll be sharp and come out gunning. He's a vet," Adams said. A more realistic hope for the Browns is that Roethlisberger will try to do too much too soon, that he tries to make up for his suspension all at once. "I know how much he must want to get back playing," linebacker Scott Fujita said. "He's battled back and done all the right things. I'm sure he wants to make sure his past indiscretions are not a distraction for their team."

Players on the Browns' defense won't say so publicly, but they know they are their team's best chance -- maybe only chance -- at Heinz Field. They can't have much faith in their offense. It stinks, to be kind. It was useless against the Falcons after hobbled quarterback Jake Delhomme (ankle) replaced starter Seneca Wallace (ankle) late in the second quarter. It seems unlikely that Wallace will play Sunday. You have to figure the Steelers' defense will love their chances against the more immobile Delhomme.

Then again, maybe not.

The Browns beat the Steelers in December despite a 6-for-19, 90-yard passing game from then-quarterback Brady Quinn. Their defense didn't need much help from the offense. Those eight sacks did the trick.

"We just had a bead on [Roethlisberger] and were able to get him down," Benard said.

It's no secret that will be the Browns' plan again Sunday.

"We'll be talking about it all week," Adams said. "We've got to get after Ben and get him down when we have the chance. He's such a big quarterback. He keeps [on] going. His wide receivers get deeper. We've got to be ready for that. We've got to be ready for everything with that guy."

Know this: The Browns will show up. They know what the pregame build-up will be, that it will center around Roethlisberger's much-anticipated return. They would love to spoil the popular story line that has Big Ben playing a spectacular game and giving notice to the NFL that he's back in a big way.

The mere thought is enough to make a 1-4 record seem a lot less painful.

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LordVile
10-11-2010, 03:11 PM
Dayamn, I'm getting real excited to see what goes down.. We aren't the same team as last years hungover superbowl champs. Arising from the ashes of depravity with a new found hunger for redemption. The Bengals are back to the Bungals and the Browns will be the Browns. I ain't sweatin' this game. Anything can happen, yeah, I know but we have bigger fish to fry, mainly the Pats, Saints, Jets, Phins.

hawaiiansteel
10-11-2010, 04:52 PM
On the Steelers: Loss at Cleveland in '09 bitter

Monday, October 11, 2010
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

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The Browns sacked Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger eight times in last year's game in Cleveland.


The NFL provided the Steelers a break even as its commissioner suspended quarterback Ben Roethlisberger for the first four games of the season.

The league at least tossed the Steelers a bone by allowing Roethlisberger two weeks to practice before playing his first game, and by making sure he had a soft landing by scheduling the Cleveland Browns at Heinz Field for his comeback.

It does not get much easier than the Cleveland Browns. The Steelers have won 12 of the past 13 times they have played the Browns, 18 of the previous 20. Under normal circumstances, the Browns would be a dress rehearsal for Roethlisberger in preparation for the next three grueling games on the road at Miami, New Orleans and Cincinnati.

Except for one thing. That one loss to the Browns in their past 13 meetings occurred in their most recent one, Dec. 10, on a bitter, cold, windy night in Cleveland. The Browns, 1-11 at the time, upset the Steelers, 13-6, to provide the final blow to their playoff hopes that had hemorrhaged during a five-game losing streak.

Thanks to that game (and other losses to some of the worst teams in the league such as Oakland and Kansas City in that five-game skid), the Steelers missed the playoffs. And, thanks to that game, they will look at their contest against the Browns a whole lot differently Sunday at Heinz Field.

"That was the fifth straight game we lost. That was like really the bottom of the barrel there," linebacker James Harrison said. "That was a big letdown. We hit the bottom. We didn't think we could get any lower, but we could have. That was like the lowest of the lowest point. All we could do was go up from there."

Somehow, the Steelers rebounded to win their final three games to finish 9-7, only to lose a tiebreaker to Baltimore, which earned a wild-card playoff spot. The memory of losing in Cleveland to punctuate that five-game nosedive, however, remains strong for many.

"It was pretty bad," Hines Ward said. "Losing to Cleveland is always depressing, not only for this city but the players, too.

"The weather was crazy. It was probably the worst weather game I ever played in."

It was a game in which Steelers coach Mike Tomlin strongly had suggested he would make lineup changes after a four-game losing streak, although he made none. It also was the second game into Tomlin's threat for the Steelers to "unleash hell in December" only to lose their first two of the month, Oakland at home and then Cleveland.

Nothing was worse than that loss to the Browns, who entered with a seven-game losing streak and ranked last in the NFL on offense and defense.

It was so bad that Ward said right afterward, "To lose five straight coming off a Super Bowl from last year, it's embarrassing for me. It just hurts, it hurts a lot."

Those bitter memories, plus a rested, healthy football team playing in the mild October weather at home should provide all the incentive the Steelers might need to avoid another upset by the Browns.

"I think it was a big wake-up call," linebacker James Farrior said. "We all know we can't take any opponent lightly, but going through those games that we lost, it hit home and it really got the point across that no matter what team's out there, when you're out there to play on Sunday any team can beat you."

And did.

"We're used to winning those types of games," defensive end Brett Keisel said. "It was a close game, it was tough, we hadn't lost at Cleveland in [eight] years."

There were no team meetings called after that loss in Cleveland dropped the Steelers to 6-7. No player stood up to make a speech. The coach who saw his public promises fail to materialize stopped making them.

After losing to some of the dregs the NFL had to offer, the Steelers won their final three against some of the better teams in the league -- Green Bay, Baltimore and Miami.

Those three victories did not save their playoff chances in 2009, but they may have taken a step to saving them this season.

"I think it showed a lot of the character of this team, of this organization how we stood together and won the last three considering we were one game out of the playoffs," Ward said. "We win one of those five games, we're in the playoffs.

"I think that's fresh on lot of guys' minds, understanding we're supposed to win the games we're supposed to win. That gives us a chance to make the playoffs at the end of the year."


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siss
10-11-2010, 05:15 PM
I always thought Ben looked hung over that game.

Crash
10-11-2010, 06:51 PM
I always thought Ben looked hung over that game.

That's how rumors start.

eniparadoxgma
10-11-2010, 08:52 PM
I always thought Ben looked hung over that game.

That's how rumors start.

By stating personal observations? THE HORROR!

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hawaiiansteel
10-12-2010, 12:51 AM
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Steelers brace for Browns' blitz

By John Harris
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, October 12, 2010


It was a bitter cold Thursday night last December, so cold that quarterback Ben Roethlisberger recalls not warming up before facing the Cleveland Browns.

"We didn't go out and warm up. It was cold and windy," Roethlisberger said Monday.

Roethlisberger remembers something else from the Steelers' dreadful 13-6 loss at Cleveland Browns Stadium, by far their worst defeat in 2009.

"They got after us, and we couldn't do anything on offense," Roethlisberger said. "Point blank, they kicked our butts."

Blitzing from all angles, Cleveland sacked Roethlisberger a season-high eight times, and the Steelers managed only two Jeff Reed field goals. It was the Steelers' fourth loss to an AFC North opponent last season and contributed to knocking them out of the playoffs.

In anticipation of Sunday's rematch against Cleveland at Heinz Field, Roethlisberger and the rest of the offensive starters realize they have their work cut out for them against the Browns' aggressive and sometimes unpredictable defense.

"They did a lot of different looks and blitzes that keep you on your heels," said Roethlisberger, who was 18 of 32 for 201 yards.

Added wide receiver Mike Wallace, who was a rookie last season: "The blitz they were sending, they were disguising things. This year we'll be more prepared for it. Our coaches have everything cleared up."

Left guard Chris Kemoeatu said the offensive line failed to make the proper reads, despite having success in their first meeting two months earlier against the Browns.

In that game, Roethlisberger completed 23 of 35 passes for 417 yards and two touchdowns in a 27-14 win.

"They did a whole lot of fake blitzes, a whole lot of things we didn't execute as far as identifying and executing and getting where we're supposed to get," Kemoeatu said.

However, the Steelers' offensive line woes went much deeper in the second meeting.

"We got confused," Kemoeatu admitted. "Their safeties would walk up, and we would think that we got them when we should have picked up the big guys.

"We've just got to know who we've got and call them out and go to those people."

While Roethlisberger said the Steelers should have a better idea what to expect this time, the trick against the Browns is knowing when the blitz is coming and when it isn't.

"I have no idea," Roethlisberger said. "With (Browns defensive coordinator Rob) Ryan, you never know what to expect. I would imagine they'll probably do a little bit of the things they've done this year."

Kemoeatu said the players will take full advantage of an extra day of practice (courtesy of the bye week). Despite not practicing for the Browns last week, the Steelers' defense was able to show the offensive line several different looks as sort of an early preview for the game.

"We're expecting everything," Kemoeatu said. "We're going to practice every possible look they can give us. Last week it was Steelers vs. Steelers. It was good because our defense brings a lot of stuff. We go into the game kind of having an idea."

Even if Cleveland's defense shows the Steelers something different, Roethlisberger said the offense will be better equipped to counter it this time.

"We'll just have to wait and see and be ready to make adjustments and changes on the sideline," Roethlisberger said.

John Harris can be reached at jharris@tribweb.com or 412-481-5432.

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sentinel33
10-12-2010, 11:44 AM
I like the fact that the team isnt taking this browns game lightly. They have a good defense. not great. They have no offense to speak of EXCEPT cribbs. The circumstances are different and we've made upgrades on the O-line(Pouncey and Adams) so those 8 sacks wont happen. With everyone expecting ben to come out slinging, the run should be open for mendenhall early. We get that thing going and then we bring in Todd to finish them. This game should end 27-6. I feel that it should be worse only because our offense has the pieces to be a top offense in this league.

feltdizz
10-12-2010, 12:07 PM
I always thought Ben looked hung over that game.

something was wrong... he definitely had a weird look on the sideline.

RuthlessBurgher
10-12-2010, 01:24 PM
I like the fact that the team isnt taking this browns game lightly. They have a good defense. not great. They have no offense to speak of EXCEPT cribbs. The circumstances are different and we've made upgrades on the O-line(Pouncey and Adams) so those 8 sacks wont happen. With everyone expecting ben to come out slinging, the run should be open for mendenhall early. We get that thing going and then we bring in Todd to finish them. This game should end 27-6. I feel that it should be worse only because our offense has the pieces to be a top offense in this league.

Todd?

Jigawatts
10-12-2010, 01:37 PM
I like the fact that the team isnt taking this browns game lightly. They have a good defense. not great. They have no offense to speak of EXCEPT cribbs. The circumstances are different and we've made upgrades on the O-line(Pouncey and Adams) so those 8 sacks wont happen. With everyone expecting ben to come out slinging, the run should be open for mendenhall early. We get that thing going and then we bring in Todd to finish them. This game should end 27-6. I feel that it should be worse only because our offense has the pieces to be a top offense in this league.

Todd?

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flippy
10-12-2010, 01:49 PM
I had Cleveland as a playoff team this year. I'm probably a year too early as usual. I see this as a tough matchup.

feltdizz
10-12-2010, 02:31 PM
I like the fact that the team isnt taking this browns game lightly. They have a good defense. not great. They have no offense to speak of EXCEPT cribbs. The circumstances are different and we've made upgrades on the O-line(Pouncey and Adams) so those 8 sacks wont happen. With everyone expecting ben to come out slinging, the run should be open for mendenhall early. We get that thing going and then we bring in Todd to finish them. This game should end 27-6. I feel that it should be worse only because our offense has the pieces to be a top offense in this league.

Todd?

I wondered the same thing but was afraid to look like I wasn't up on the new nick names.

Who is Todd?

eniparadoxgma
10-12-2010, 06:19 PM
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hawaiiansteel
10-12-2010, 06:34 PM
I had Cleveland as a playoff team this year. I'm probably a year too early as usual.


you probably had the Cubs winning the World Series this year too, huh? :lol:



Roethlisberger respects Browns' defense

By John Harris, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, October 12, 2010


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Monday served as an extra day of practice for the Steelers, who normally practice three days a week but will go four days because of the bye week.

Returning to their regular schedule, the players will be off today before practicing Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. For Roethlisberger, it's an extra day to prepare for a Cleveland team whose defense has performed better than the team's 1-3 record indicates.

"I knew these guys all wanted a break, but for me I wouldn't have minded playing last week," said Roethlisberger, who missed the first four games because of a suspension.

As for facing the Browns, Roethlisberger said, "They're a lot better than people give them credit for. Their defense plays as a unit. And they do it at a really high level with a lot of intensity."

Second-year wide receiver Mike Wallace cut the Mohawk hairstyle he had worn since making the team last season. "I just wanted a different look," Wallace said. While running back Rashard Mendenhall joked Monday that Wallace's new haircut won't result in him receiving any special favors, quarterback Ben Roethlisberger said he likes the new look. "It's been a year in waiting," Roethlisberger said. "I was excited to come to work because he said he might do it this weekend. We had a deal if he got 1,000 yards (receiving), he would cut it. He looks better. He looks like a nice, young man. Before he looked a little crazy and wild." Roethlisberger and Wallace both joked that their by-play concerning Wallace's new look in no way compares to the supposed rift over hair between former New England teammates Tom Brady and Randy Moss. "It's not going there," Roethlisberger said. Said Wallace: "Not at all. I need my quarterback."

What does Roethlisberger's return mean for the offense? "With Ben, you can run everything in your playbook," Wallace said. "You can open up. You can do anything you want. I think we'll open up, but I don't think we'll go too far from the game plan we had."

As expected, nose tackle Chris Hoke returned to practice after injuring his knee against Tampa Bay and missing the last two weeks of practice. Guard Trai Essex (ankle) also returned to practice in a limited capacity.

Digits

53 -- Tackles for Lawrence Timmons after four games this season.

73 -- Tackles for Timmons in first two seasons combined.

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RuthlessBurgher
10-12-2010, 08:42 PM
Second-year wide receiver Mike Wallace cut the Mohawk hairstyle he had worn since making the team last season. "I just wanted a different look," Wallace said. While running back Rashard Mendenhall joked Monday that Wallace's new haircut won't result in him receiving any special favors, quarterback Ben Roethlisberger said he likes the new look. "It's been a year in waiting," Roethlisberger said. "I was excited to come to work because he said he might do it this weekend. We had a deal if he got 1,000 yards (receiving), he would cut it. He looks better. He looks like a nice, young man. Before he looked a little crazy and wild." Roethlisberger and Wallace both joked that their by-play concerning Wallace's new look in no way compares to the supposed rift over hair between former New England teammates Tom Brady and Randy Moss. "It's not going there," Roethlisberger said. Said Wallace: "Not at all. I need my quarterback."

So says this guy:

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:wft

hawaiiansteel
10-13-2010, 04:45 PM
So says this guy:

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:wft



that has to go down as one of the worst haircuts for a Steelers QB ever... :shock: