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SteelHoss
10-04-2010, 10:19 AM
NFL from the sidelines
After hobnobbing around the NFL in the press boxes and sidelines, sports reporter Dale Lolley will let you know the insider scoop.

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Sunday, October 03, 2010
Post-Baltimore thoughts

Anybody who would have taken 3-1 coming out of the first four games, raise your hand.

OK. That's pretty much everybody.

Yes, I'm sure you don't like it that the Steelers lost to the Ravens, but it gives this team two weeks to re-focus with what Hines Ward called an angry Ben Roethlisberger coming back.

That's not a bad thing.

The Steelers will still control their own destiny this season.

And Sunday's loss should shut all the idiots up who don't think the Steelers need Roethlisberger.

Baltimore's pass defense was a little better than I gave it credit for. The front seven makes a lot of that happen with the pressure it brings.

Still, there were things that could have been exploited.

Rashard Mendenhall should make the Pro Bowl this season. He's running hard. He's running decisively. He's been the Steelers' entire offense - for the most part - through the first four games when everyone knew he was coming.

Mendenhall will no doubt need the next two weeks off to rest his body up for the remainder of this season.

The Steelers have made it to their bye relatively healthy.

That's good news. Chris Hoke and Trai Essex will be back following the bye.

Everybody wanted to talk about the first four games being the make-or-break portion of this season, but really, it's the next four games.

After playing Cleveland at home in Roethlisberger's return, the Steelers play road games at Miami, at New Orleans and at Cincinnati. That's a tough stretch for any team.

The only good thing about that is that there's no way the Steelers will take the third of those three games, at Cincinnati, lightly.

That's a big thing because history shows that NFL teams don't do well in the third game of three consecutive road games.

If the Steelers can at least split those four games, giving them a 5-3 first half, they'll be in excellent shape.

Remember, Baltimore still has to play at New England, at Atlanta and at Houston. The Ravens also have home games against the Steelers, Dolphins, Saints and Bengals. That's seven pretty tough games left on the Ravens' schedule.

I thought Charlie Batch did a good job with his hard counts against the Ravens. Were they a factor in the two false starts late in the game?

Possibly. But if the Ravens had jumped offside on those, everyone would be saying what a great move they were.

The offense knows the snap count. There's no reason for them to jump offside.

Those two offside penalties really limited what the Steelers could do.

Look at it this way, Mendenhall had two carries for five yards that were negated by the false starts. That would have put the Steelers in a third-and-five from the 8, as opposed to third-and-10 from the 3.

They may have attempted a pass from the 8 off a three-step drop. But you don't want Batch dropping back into the end zone to pass the ball. Too many bad things can happen.

And no, I'm not taking a safety in that situation. When your defense has only given up three touchdowns - to that point - in nearly four games and a touchdown is the only thing that can beat you, you have to make the opponent score a touchdown.

posted by Dale Lolley @ 9:06 PM

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Ghost
10-04-2010, 10:54 AM
Look at it this way, Mendenhall had two carries for five yards that were negated by the false starts. That would have put the Steelers in a third-and-five from the 8, as opposed to third-and-10 from the 3.

They may have attempted a pass from the 8 off a three-step drop. But you don't want Batch dropping back into the end zone to pass the ball. Too many bad things can happen.

And no, I'm not taking a safety in that situation. When your defense has only given up three touchdowns - to that point - in nearly four games and a touchdown is the only thing that can beat you, you have to make the opponent score a touchdown.

This is a great point. A lot of talk about running it 3 times at the end but the penalites KILLED them. Maybe you try a quick pass from the 8 knowing you won't have a safety with a sack.

And even with the penalty on the punt; I still thought the D would keep them out of the endzone. Yikes... that last series was brutal for the D.

ikestops85
10-04-2010, 11:09 AM
The part that really bothered me about that last drive was us giving them the sidelines so they could get out of bounds and stop the clock. :HeadBanger

They could afford to take time and not even worry about the hurry up.

BURGH86STEEL
10-04-2010, 11:11 AM
Look at it this way, Mendenhall had two carries for five yards that were negated by the false starts. That would have put the Steelers in a third-and-five from the 8, as opposed to third-and-10 from the 3.

They may have attempted a pass from the 8 off a three-step drop. But you don't want Batch dropping back into the end zone to pass the ball. Too many bad things can happen.

And no, I'm not taking a safety in that situation. When your defense has only given up three touchdowns - to that point - in nearly four games and a touchdown is the only thing that can beat you, you have to make the opponent score a touchdown.

This is a great point. A lot of talk about running it 3 times at the end but the penalites KILLED them. Maybe you try a quick pass from the 8 knowing you won't have a safety with a sack.

And even with the penalty on the punt; I still thought the D would keep them out of the endzone. Yikes... that last series was brutal for the D.

I am glad someone understands the difficult predicament the coaches and offense were put in with those penalties.

Tomlin made the decision to put the game into the hands of the defense. Not many can fault him for that.

feltdizz
10-04-2010, 11:26 AM
Look at it this way, Mendenhall had two carries for five yards that were negated by the false starts. That would have put the Steelers in a third-and-five from the 8, as opposed to third-and-10 from the 3.

They may have attempted a pass from the 8 off a three-step drop. But you don't want Batch dropping back into the end zone to pass the ball. Too many bad things can happen.

And no, I'm not taking a safety in that situation. When your defense has only given up three touchdowns - to that point - in nearly four games and a touchdown is the only thing that can beat you, you have to make the opponent score a touchdown.

This is a great point. A lot of talk about running it 3 times at the end but the penalites KILLED them. Maybe you try a quick pass from the 8 knowing you won't have a safety with a sack.

And even with the penalty on the punt; I still thought the D would keep them out of the endzone. Yikes... that last series was brutal for the D.

I am glad someone understands the difficult predicament the coaches and offense were put in with those penalties.

Tomlin made the decision to put the game into the hands of the defense. Not many can fault him for that.

Batch was taking his time to see the field... a little to much IMO and I think something bad could have happened if we dropped back to pass in the endzone.

I wonder if the safety and a punt by Sep would have been a better option.

regardless we are 3-1 and I'll take it.

NWNewell
10-04-2010, 12:14 PM
regardless we are 3-1 and I'll take it.


I would happily trade our two non-conference wins for a division win against the Ravens, and been happier at 2-2.

We'd have the same overall record as the Ravens and Cincy, but we would have the upper hand in Conference, Division, and Head-to-Head wins at this point. Division loses hurt.

Plus, it's the Ravens.

Ghost
10-04-2010, 01:14 PM
I wonder if the safety and a punt by Sep would have been a better option.

Can't do that b/c then the Ravens only need to get in FG range to win the game. You have to go with the thought that your typically stingy D (only 1 TD yesterday at the time) won't allow them to get 40 or 50 yards with a minute and no timeouts. I admit it - I thought they would not score a touchdown.

After the penalties, with Batch, I don't see how you can go with anything other than a run to try and get a few yards prior to the punt.

sentinel33
10-04-2010, 01:34 PM
this loss sucks but 3-1 is a real nice start. There is plenty of blame to go around here. I look at it this way-the ravens almost loss to a 4th stringer at qb. We will beat them in december. I am glad we loss. It eliminates any of that qb controversey that would have started to fly around. it also takes pressure off of ben. We are on pace for a 12-4 season and at the least a playoff berth. This team is a 12-4 team. When ben comes back the defense wont have the pressure knowing that they can only give up 13 points to win. Farrior has to have a decrease in playing time. He will rotate with foote and that will make the defense stronger, leaving only the suspect cb play by mcfadden as the weak link. Very happy with things so far seeing as to how we havent had our superbowls winning qb for any of these games.

phillyesq
10-04-2010, 01:41 PM
Look at it this way, Mendenhall had two carries for five yards that were negated by the false starts. That would have put the Steelers in a third-and-five from the 8, as opposed to third-and-10 from the 3.

They may have attempted a pass from the 8 off a three-step drop. But you don't want Batch dropping back into the end zone to pass the ball. Too many bad things can happen.

And no, I'm not taking a safety in that situation. When your defense has only given up three touchdowns - to that point - in nearly four games and a touchdown is the only thing that can beat you, you have to make the opponent score a touchdown.

This is a great point. A lot of talk about running it 3 times at the end but the penalites KILLED them. Maybe you try a quick pass from the 8 knowing you won't have a safety with a sack.

And even with the penalty on the punt; I still thought the D would keep them out of the endzone. Yikes... that last series was brutal for the D.

I am glad someone understands the difficult predicament the coaches and offense were put in with those penalties.

Tomlin made the decision to put the game into the hands of the defense. Not many can fault him for that.

Completely agree. I've been more critical of Tomlin than most on the board, but I think he made the correct decision here.

Earlier, there was a sack fumble near the goalline that was negated by a penalty. Too risky to throw, especially with Batch, and especially being backed up the way they were.