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calmkiller
09-07-2010, 03:05 PM
Week One Depth chart has been posted.

http://www.steelers.com/team/depth-chart.html

A few notes.

Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders are the 5th and 6th WRs.

Ramon Foster is the 2nd string Guard on both left and right.

Tony Hills is Max Starks back up.

David Johnson is listed as the starting FB

Antonio Brown is the Punt and Kick Returner along with Mewelde Moore on Kick Returns

Jonathan Scott is the backup LS

Will Gay and Anthony Madison are the backup Corners

RuthlessBurgher
09-07-2010, 03:25 PM
Will Gay and Anthony Madison are the backup Corners

If Anthony Madison sees the field as a CB on defense before Keenan Lewis or Crezdon Butler, Ray Horton needs to have his head checked. Madison is a corner just like how Logan was a wideout (i.e. in case of dire emergency only).

Oviedo
09-07-2010, 03:45 PM
Will Gay and Anthony Madison are the backup Corners

If Anthony Madison sees the field as a CB on defense before Keenan Lewis or Crezdon Butler, Ray Horton needs to have his head checked. Madison is a corner just like how Logan was a wideout (i.e. in case of dire emergency only).

Keeping Madison is a ridiculous move IMO. Does he really make that many special teams tackles? In his very best year he had 17 solo and 2 assists. So for one tackle per game, we gave up a future nickle like we did in Burnett.

Also interesting is that Jonathon Scott is the back up long snapper. Why can't he just do that fulltime and get ris of Warren.

papillon
09-07-2010, 03:50 PM
Will Gay and Anthony Madison are the backup Corners

If Anthony Madison sees the field as a CB on defense before Keenan Lewis or Crezdon Butler, Ray Horton needs to have his head checked. Madison is a corner just like how Logan was a wideout (i.e. in case of dire emergency only).

Keeping Madison is a ridiculous move IMO. Does he really make that many special teams tackles? In his very best year he had 17 solo and 2 assists. So for one tackle per game, we gave up a future nickle like we did in Burnett.

Not to mention, even with him out there, Sepulveda was needed to make tackles on special teams. Burnett must have really sucked during training camp and in practice.

Pappy

calmkiller
09-07-2010, 03:53 PM
Also Skippy is handling Kick offs. Even after Sepulveda makes TD saving tackles on 3-4 kickoffs. If Reed is in on those plays its a TD. No question.

phillyesq
09-07-2010, 04:00 PM
Will Gay and Anthony Madison are the backup Corners

If Anthony Madison sees the field as a CB on defense before Keenan Lewis or Crezdon Butler, Ray Horton needs to have his head checked. Madison is a corner just like how Logan was a wideout (i.e. in case of dire emergency only).

Keeping Madison is a ridiculous move IMO. Does he really make that many special teams tackles? In his very best year he had 17 solo and 2 assists. So for one tackle per game, we gave up a future nickle like we did in Burnett.

Also interesting is that Jonathon Scott is the back up long snapper. Why can't he just do that fulltime and get ris of Warren.

Last year, when the Steelers kept Burnett over Madison, the special teams really struggled. Madison wasn't the only factor, but the coverage teams weren't nearly as bad after he returned. I think he showed his value to the team.

Personally, I would have preferred that the Steelers keep Burnett over Ryan Mundy, using Butler as the 4th safety.

As for Scott, I'd assume that he probably isn't as accurate as Warren. Stewart is more of an asset to the coverage teams, but he wasn't as accurate, which is why Warren was kept.

aggiebones
09-07-2010, 05:30 PM
Ovi, it concerns me that you don't know why Scott is not the deep snapper.

James Harrison used to be the backup LS. Did you see what happened when he had to come in and snap 1 time? It was ugly.
Fact is the full time LS has to be in sync with the holder and legman. Scott was just the best of the other 40+ players that will dress on Sunday. Doesn't mean he is any good. Just good enough. I'm not even sure why that is public. Scott needs to be practicing with the OL, not the STs guys. I believe EVERY team in the league has a LS specialist. Until you lose a game on a LS, it seems like a replaceable position. Its not.
There is also a backup punter on the team in case of injury. Probably Reed. Should we get rid of Selpulveda and just have Reed do both?

cruzer8
09-07-2010, 05:35 PM
Ovi, it concerns me that you don't know why Scott is not the deep snapper.

James Harrison used to be the backup LS. Did you see what happened when he had to come in and snap 1 time? It was ugly.
Fact is the full time LS has to be in sync with the holder and legman. Scott was just the best of the other 40+ players that will dress on Sunday. Doesn't mean he is any good. Just good enough. I'm not even sure why that is public. Scott needs to be practicing with the OL, not the STs guys. I believe EVERY team in the league has a LS specialist. Until you lose a game on a LS, it seems like a replaceable position. Its not.
There is also a backup punter on the team in case of injury. Probably Reed. Should we get rid of Selpulveda and just have Reed do both?

You are correct.

RuthlessBurgher
09-07-2010, 05:53 PM
Ovi, it concerns me that you don't know why Scott is not the deep snapper.

James Harrison used to be the backup LS. Did you see what happened when he had to come in and snap 1 time? It was ugly.
Fact is the full time LS has to be in sync with the holder and legman. Scott was just the best of the other 40+ players that will dress on Sunday. Doesn't mean he is any good. Just good enough. I'm not even sure why that is public. Scott needs to be practicing with the OL, not the STs guys. I believe EVERY team in the league has a LS specialist. Until you lose a game on a LS, it seems like a replaceable position. Its not.
There is also a backup punter on the team in case of injury. Probably Reed. Should we get rid of Selpulveda and just have Reed do both?

You are correct.

Actually, since the Giants drafted LB Zak DeOssie and DT Jay Alford in 2007, they have used those guys as their long snappers (I believe Alford snapped for FG's and PAT's and DeOssie snapped for punts, but I could be wrong about that). But every other team in the league does employ a full time long snapping specialist.

By the way, Alford was cut by the Giants 3 days ago. Although he has only played DT in a 4-3 so far in his career, I wonder if he could possibly convert to 3-4 DE? He is 6'3" (like Ziggy Hood and Nick Eason). Alford is listed at 304 lbs., Hood at 300 lbs., and Eason at 285 lbs. If Alford could be a solid backup 3-4 DE and longsnapper, he could take Eason and Warren's jobs, and we could bring in someone like Owen Schmitt or re-sign someone like Joe Burnett. I'm sure this possibility is going to make Pappy's head explode.

cruzer8
09-07-2010, 06:08 PM
Ovi, it concerns me that you don't know why Scott is not the deep snapper.

James Harrison used to be the backup LS. Did you see what happened when he had to come in and snap 1 time? It was ugly.
Fact is the full time LS has to be in sync with the holder and legman. Scott was just the best of the other 40+ players that will dress on Sunday. Doesn't mean he is any good. Just good enough. I'm not even sure why that is public. Scott needs to be practicing with the OL, not the STs guys. I believe EVERY team in the league has a LS specialist. Until you lose a game on a LS, it seems like a replaceable position. Its not.
There is also a backup punter on the team in case of injury. Probably Reed. Should we get rid of Selpulveda and just have Reed do both?

You are correct.

Actually, since the Giants drafted LB Zak DeOssie and DT Jay Alford in 2007, they have used those guys as their long snappers (I believe Alford snapped for FG's and PAT's and DeOssie snapped for punts, but I could be wrong about that). But every other team in the league does employ a full time long snapping specialist.

By the way, Alford was cut by the Giants 3 days ago. Although he has only played DT in a 4-3 so far in his career, I wonder if he could possibly convert to 3-4 DE? He is 6'3" (like Ziggy Hood and Nick Eason). Alford is listed at 304 lbs., Hood at 300 lbs., and Eason at 285 lbs. If Alford could be a solid backup 3-4 DE and longsnapper, he could take Eason and Warren's jobs, and we could bring in someone like Owen Schmitt or re-sign someone like Joe Burnett. I'm sure this possibility is going to make Pappy's head explode.

Thanks. Didn't know that.

steelblood
09-07-2010, 07:02 PM
Ovi, it concerns me that you don't know why Scott is not the deep snapper.

James Harrison used to be the backup LS. Did you see what happened when he had to come in and snap 1 time? It was ugly.
Fact is the full time LS has to be in sync with the holder and legman. Scott was just the best of the other 40+ players that will dress on Sunday. Doesn't mean he is any good. Just good enough. I'm not even sure why that is public. Scott needs to be practicing with the OL, not the STs guys. I believe EVERY team in the league has a LS specialist. Until you lose a game on a LS, it seems like a replaceable position. Its not.
There is also a backup punter on the team in case of injury. Probably Reed. Should we get rid of Selpulveda and just have Reed do both?

You are correct.


Actually, since the Giants drafted LB Zak DeOssie and DT Jay Alford in 2007, they have used those guys as their long snappers (I believe Alford snapped for FG's and PAT's and DeOssie snapped for punts, but I could be wrong about that). But every other team in the league does employ a full time long snapping specialist.

By the way, Alford was cut by the Giants 3 days ago. Although he has only played DT in a 4-3 so far in his career, I wonder if he could possibly convert to 3-4 DE? He is 6'3" (like Ziggy Hood and Nick Eason). Alford is listed at 304 lbs., Hood at 300 lbs., and Eason at 285 lbs. If Alford could be a solid backup 3-4 DE and longsnapper, he could take Eason and Warren's jobs, and we could bring in someone like Owen Schmitt or re-sign someone like Joe Burnett. I'm sure this possibility is going to make Pappy's head explode.

Alford was very effective as a penetrating DT as a rookie. He had a serious knee injury last year and has not recovered well. He was absolutely destroyed by our backups in the preseason game.