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fordfixer
09-06-2010, 10:12 AM
Sideline to sideline: Who’s the best NFL coach?

SportingNews Sep 5, 2:42 pm EDT
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=tsn-166944

There isn’t a single rookie head coach in the NFL this season, so it’s an ideal time to rank ‘em, 1-32. Sporting News' NFL writers and editors factored in championships, won-lost record, creativity, motivational skills, ability to limit turnovers/penalties and hiring and maintaining a quality staff. Then it was time to see what the players working for the top 10 coaches thought.

1. Bill Belichick, Patriots

QB Tom Brady(notes): “I’ve always been privileged to play for Coach Belichick, who I’ve always said is the best coach in the history of the league. In terms of his work ethic and his preparation, he’s as diligent as he’s ever been.”
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2. Sean Payton, Saints

QB Drew Brees(notes): ” (Payton’s ranking is) well deserved. I mean, it’s hard to say who’s No. 1. But you certainly can’t argue with what Bill Belichick has done in his tenure there. … With the exception of training camp, guys have fun here. So I would say, more than anything, the way that Sean Payton is able to complement and combine that very disciplined, fair but stern attitude, with, ‘Hey, we’re going to have fun, and we’re going to enjoy what we do,’ (is what makes him a great coach).”

3. Jeff Fisher, Titans

DB Vincent Fuller(notes): “Once he gets that Super Bowl title, which I hope we can bring him in the next couple of years, then he’ll be higher on the list. … He is the longest-tenured coach, so he has the respect there. And he takes care of his players. I don’t have another coach to base things off of, but I always hear horror stories from players who’ve left who complain and say it wasn’t like it was in Tennessee, coachingwise.”

4. Mike Shanahan, Redskins

MLB London Fletcher(notes): ” Coach Shanahan should be the No. 1-rated coach in the league. He’s won back-to-back Super Bowls. He’s a proven winner. His approach to the game, the way he handles this team, is great. … He treats us like men .”

5. Mike Tomlin, Steelers

ILB James Farrior(notes): ” He might even need to be higher. What he’s done since he’s been here has been phenomenal. His first year, he was a little hard on us, but he learned from that and the next year he changed a couple things and we were very successful. “

6. Andy Reid, Eagles

FB Leonard Weaver(notes): “Obviously, Coach Reid hasn’t won (a Super Bowl) yet. … (But) if you’re going to base (the ranking) on wins and success—not just Super Bowls— then definitely Coach Reid is top two, top three.”

7. Tom Coughlin, Giants

TE Kevin Boss(notes): ” He could bump up over those guys who haven’t won Super Bowls because he’s obviously done that just recently. I think that pretty much says it right there: He’s got a Super Bowl and they don’t. I think he deserves to be ahead of them .”

8. Ken Whisenhunt, Cardinals

QB Matt Leinart(notes): ” Just looking back at my rookie year, what we were as a team until now — it’s night and day. That’s due a lot to his philosophy and the attitude and discipline he’s brought to us. He’s been extremely hard on me, but I think it’s helped me to be mentally tougher and I think all that will pay off for both of us.”

9. John Harbaugh, Ravens

NT Kelly Gregg(notes): ” The first five picks in the poll are excellent choices, but after that, I would put John Harbaugh around sixth or seventh. Some of those guys above him have won Super Bowls, but he has also gone to the playoffs in his first two seasons as head coach here. “

10. Rex Ryan, Jets

SS Jim Leonhard(notes): ” He’s one of those personalities that people either love or hate. Look past that and look at the X’s and O’s. He’s as good a coach as there is in this league.”

11. Mike McCarthy, Packers

12. Jim Caldwell, Colts

13. John Fox, Panthers

14. Brad Childress, Vikings

15. Wade Phillips, Cowboys

16. Mike Smith(notes), Falcons

17. Tony Sparano, Dolphins

18. Marvin Lewis, Bengals

19. Norv Turner, Chargers

20. Lovie Smith, Bears

21. Mike Singletary, 49ers

22. Jack Del Rio, Jaguars

23. Pete Carroll, Seahawks

24. Gary Kubiak, Texans

25. Eric Mangini, Browns

26. Josh McDaniels, Broncos

27. Todd Haley, Chiefs

28. Chan Gailey, Bills

29. Tom Cable, Raiders

30. Jim Schwartz, Lions

31. Raheem Morris, Buccaneers

32. Steve Spagnuolo, Rams

fezziwig
09-06-2010, 10:22 AM
It amazes me how people over look the fact that Pats coach needed to cheat to gain his success. He's a freakin cheat and that is all I see. Once a cheater, always a cheater.

Oviedo
09-06-2010, 10:53 AM
I wonder what Leinert's opinion is of Whisenhunt now :stirpot

I would agree 100% where they have Tomlin. He has a great foundation and he will get better every year. Typical Rooney hire.

grotonsteel
09-06-2010, 10:57 AM
I wonder what Leinert's opinion is of Whisenhunt now :stirpot



:lol:

grotonsteel
09-06-2010, 11:00 AM
It amazes me how people over look the fact that Pats coach needed to cheat to gain his success. He's a freakin cheat and that is all I see. Once a cheater, always a cheater.


:Agree

At least put a * after his name

RuthlessBurgher
09-06-2010, 11:44 AM
Mike Singletary is behind stiffs like Wade Phillips and Norv Turner? Granted, Norv is a great O.C. and Wade is an accomplished D.C., but both blow chunks as head coaches.

DanRooney
09-06-2010, 11:58 AM
Singletary and Sparano should be much higher. They completely turned their teams around.

Guys like Jeff Fisher should be way lower.

frankthetank1
09-06-2010, 11:59 AM
Singletary and Sparano should be much higher. They completely turned their teams around.

Guys like Jeff Fisher should be way lower.

i have never understood why jeff fisher gets so much love. he is like a bill cowher minus the sb ring and amazing regular season record

fezziwig
09-06-2010, 02:27 PM
Singletary and Sparano should be much higher. They completely turned their teams around.

Guys like Jeff Fisher should be way lower.

i have never understood why jeff fisher gets so much love. he is like a bill cowher minus the sb ring and amazing regular season record



i think its becaue he's been around so long. His team sure did blow it a couple of years ago when they lost to the Ravens in the playoffs, that should have never hapened. And to a rookie coach at home.

Djfan
09-06-2010, 06:38 PM
Bellyache is a scumbag.

Turner was rated too highly.

Steelers>NFL
09-07-2010, 08:41 AM
Surprised to see Tomlin at #5. A head of Andy Reid. WOW!

RuthlessBurgher
09-07-2010, 10:28 AM
Surprised to see Tomlin at #5. A head of Andy Reid. WOW!

How many Super Bowls has Andy Reid won as a head coach?

Slapstick
09-07-2010, 10:38 AM
How many Super Bowls has Andy Reid won as a head coach?

The same number as Jeff Fisher... :wft

MCHammer
09-07-2010, 11:22 AM
As much as I hate to say it, Belichick deserves #1 billing. He gets the most out of his players year after year. He seems like a total d%ck and comes off as a lousy human being, but he motivates his team to play and has the xs and os down pat.

Tomlin may be a top 5 coach or better, but I think that it is unfair to come to any conclusions about him until the Cowher era players are all gone. How Tomlin handles this team when Polamalu is gone and Ben is at the end of his career will be a better indicator than how he took a SB winning team back to the superbowl.

As somebody else said about Fisher, I don't get it either. He seems like a good guy that players like to play for, but he seems closer to #10. I'd at least put Coughlin, Harbaugh and Whiz ahead of Fisher.

Nothing against Rex but his reputation right now seems tied up more in his persona than in actual accomplishments. Now that expectations are rising it will be interesting to see if he can meet them.

Oviedo
09-07-2010, 12:02 PM
As much as I hate to say it, Belichick deserves #1 billing. He gets the most out of his players year after year. He seems like a total d%ck and comes off as a lousy human being, but he motivates his team to play and has the xs and os down pat.

Tomlin may be a top 5 coach or better, but I think that it is unfair to come to any conclusions about him until the Cowher era players are all gone. How Tomlin handles this team when Polamalu is gone and Ben is at the end of his career will be a better indicator than how he took a SB winning team back to the superbowl.

As somebody else said about Fisher, I don't get it either. He seems like a good guy that players like to play for, but he seems closer to #10. I'd at least put Coughlin, Harbaugh and Whiz ahead of Fisher.

Nothing against Rex but his reputation right now seems tied up more in his persona than in actual accomplishments. Now that expectations are rising it will be interesting to see if he can meet them.

Not sure about the three yoiu mention being better than Fisher. Fisher is solid and consistently puts a quality team together and gets them to perform.

Coughlin was only saved in his job by winning the Super Bowl and he has issues with his players year in and year out.

Harbaugh benefits from having the best GM in football in Newsome.

We will see this season that Whis's success was a result of Kurt Warner and not the other way around.

grotonsteel
09-07-2010, 12:17 PM
As much as I hate to say it, Belichick deserves #1 billing.

If someone would have given me a photocopy of Einstein's work, Theory of Relativity will be under my name not Einstein. Does that make me great..? Maybe Yes if i don't get caught.

Same with Bellicheat...He cheated for 3 SB and got caught. He was found guilty and what Goodell did was tank a draft pick when they had 2 First Round picks in that draft.

MCHammer
09-07-2010, 01:06 PM
Yeah, he cheated. But I think many of us are a little to eager to use that as an excuse for why the Patriots were so dominant for so long. I think Belichick is a miserable SOB, but he gets the job done.

If he goes back to Browns Belichick in the coming years I'd change my mind, but I really don't think the man got all that much of an edge with spygate. I think it's just an example of how he will do anything to win, even unnecessary stuff that borders on obsessive.



Coughlin was only saved in his job by winning the Super Bowl and he has issues with his players year in and year out.

Harbaugh benefits from having the best GM in football in Newsome.

We will see this season that Whis's success was a result of Kurt Warner and not the other way around.



Fisher's resume is under .500 in the post season and 136-110 in the regular season. That's good, not great. I'm not trying to run him down, I just don't see him as an elite coach. Cowher is similar as a coach, but had better results.

Rating coaches is hard to do, but if Tomlin gets top 5 billing then I'd give Whiz an edge upwards in this list as well. He started out with less in terms of talent/winning tradition than Tomlin and ended up almost beating us in the SB.

Coughlin beat the Patriots to end their streak and keep them from winning another SB. That alone makes him awesome. :Beer He's also got Fisher like numbers in regular season (103-89) and an 8-6 postseason record, plus a SB. He may not be Mr. Congeniality, but he's been pretty solid and his disciplinarian streak is certainly no worse than Belichick's, who comes off as petty and vindictive.

Good point on Harbaugh. But he's made the post-season twice in two years as head coach and did so with a rookie qb in 2008. So far he is doing well.