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SteelerNation1
08-25-2010, 04:09 PM
@Ken_Laird says Maurkice Pouncey took all 1st team reps at #Steelers practice this afternoon
26 minutes ago via ÜberTwitter

New Era?????? :tt1

Shawn
08-25-2010, 04:11 PM
Looks like it. He is further along than I thought he would be at this point. Starting center for the Steelers as a rookie? I don't believe that has ever happened in the history of the franchise. Am I forgetting someone? Not even Dawson did that. He started at G.

phillyesq
08-25-2010, 04:11 PM
New Era?????? :tt1

Looking that way. And really, there is no reason to delay.

SteelerNation1
08-25-2010, 04:18 PM
With Ngata, Rogers, Cody, that dude with red hair from Cincy in the division, and others, he is going to have his work cut out for him. It's going to be a challenge, but IMO he is ready.

birtikidis
08-25-2010, 04:20 PM
Within three years, I'm going to say that he'll be considered the best center in the game. Pro-Bowl his 2nd year.

SteelerNation1
08-25-2010, 04:28 PM
Within three years, I'm going to say that he'll be considered the best center in the game. Pro-Bowl his 2nd year.
He'll most likely be battling Mangold for a while for the AFC's Pro Bowl spot. Our expectations aren't that high right? :lol: Approx what year will he be inducted into the Hall??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

SteelCrazy
08-25-2010, 04:29 PM
@Ken_Laird says Maurkice Pouncey took all 1st team reps at #Steelers practice this afternoon
26 minutes ago via ÜberTwitter

New Era?????? :tt1

God, I hope so......... :Boobs

Oviedo
08-25-2010, 04:30 PM
With Ngata, Rogers, Cody, that dude with red hair from Cincy in the division, and others, he is going to have his work cut out for him. It's going to be a challenge, but IMO he is ready.

I hope so because if he doesn't we will get the same cast of characters labeling him as a bust on this message board. However, he may get a pass because I'm sure it will be "Araian's fault." :wink:

birtikidis
08-25-2010, 04:37 PM
Within three years, I'm going to say that he'll be considered the best center in the game. Pro-Bowl his 2nd year.
He'll most likely be battling Mangold for a while for the AFC's Pro Bowl spot. Our expectations aren't that high right? :lol: Approx what year will he be inducted into the Hall??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Let him. Pouncey is a stud, and imo the best offensive lineman to come out in years. Sure LT's are more important so they get drafted high, but.. you'll see.

aggiebones
08-25-2010, 05:13 PM
Makes sense cause we'd all rather keep a young pup (Urbik or Legursky, whoever is on the bubble) that has potential versus an aging C with diminishing skills.

Flasteel
08-25-2010, 05:17 PM
Wooohoooo!!! :tt2

Shawn
08-25-2010, 05:18 PM
Within three years, I'm going to say that he'll be considered the best center in the game. Pro-Bowl his 2nd year.
He'll most likely be battling Mangold for a while for the AFC's Pro Bowl spot. Our expectations aren't that high right? :lol: Approx what year will he be inducted into the Hall??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

While it might be a touch premature it's hard not to get real excited about the guy.

Chadman
08-25-2010, 05:35 PM
If Pouncey gets the starting gig, and Hartwig gets shown the door, does this guarentee Essex remains at RG? Because it would be very unlike the Steelers to destabelise the OL by removing 2 starters from last years group, wouldn't it?

Chadman still thinks the best Steelers OL would be Starks, Kemo, Pouncey, Foster & Adams.

SteelCrazy
08-25-2010, 05:48 PM
If Pouncey gets the starting gig, and Hartwig gets shown the door, does this guarentee Essex remains at RG? Because it would be very unlike the Steelers to destabelise the OL by removing 2 starters from last years group, wouldn't it?

Chadman still thinks the best Steelers OL would be Starks, Kemo, Pouncey, Foster & Adams.

I'd love to see that as well......if only you and I had a say to who starts on the line! :Boobs

Eddie Spaghetti
08-25-2010, 05:56 PM
I hope so because if he doesn't we will get the same cast of characters labeling him as a bust on this message board. However, he may get a pass because I'm sure it will be "Araian's fault." :wink:

cmon dude. you were the one on here stating what a awful pick it would be.

why must you constanly mock other posters for doing the same things you do? it gets very tiresome.

NJ-STEELER
08-25-2010, 06:40 PM
:lol: Approx what year will he be inducted into the Hall??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

he's also taken half of webby's number and half of dirt's

a sign of thing to come ,maybe?

hawaiiansteel
08-25-2010, 07:40 PM
If Pouncey gets the starting gig, and Hartwig gets shown the door, does this guarentee Essex remains at RG? Because it would be very unlike the Steelers to destabelise the OL by removing 2 starters from last years group, wouldn't it?

Chadman still thinks the best Steelers OL would be Starks, Kemo, Pouncey, Foster & Adams.



i read somewhere that Essex had pretty much won the RG spot now that Pouncey is playing center. the Steelers want to keep some stability with Essex, remember that Adams is learning a new position at RT as well.

the following season, i look for Ramon Foster to unseat Essex or Adams on the right side of the line.

Mister Pittsburgh
08-25-2010, 08:44 PM
If Pouncey gets the starting gig, and Hartwig gets shown the door, does this guarentee Essex remains at RG? Because it would be very unlike the Steelers to destabelise the OL by removing 2 starters from last years group, wouldn't it?

Chadman still thinks the best Steelers OL would be Starks, Kemo, Pouncey, Foster & Adams.

Mister Pittsburgh wonders what it would look like to have it lined up like Starks, Kemo, Pouncey, Legursky, Foster. Have dual backs on occasion and allow both Kemo OR Legursky to pull and lead the charge, or even both. Kemo is huge and pretty quick as a pulling guard and Legursky is short so he could get up under taller DL and LB and use his power and speed to move quicker than them. He isn't tall, but could run block well I bet.

stlrz d
08-25-2010, 10:46 PM
@Ken_Laird says Maurkice Pouncey took all 1st team reps at #Steelers practice this afternoon
26 minutes ago via ÜberTwitter

New Era?????? :tt1

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phillyesq
08-25-2010, 10:50 PM
With Ngata, Rogers, Cody, that dude with red hair from Cincy in the division, and others, he is going to have his work cut out for him. It's going to be a challenge, but IMO he is ready.

I hope so because if he doesn't we will get the same cast of characters labeling him as a bust on this message board. However, he may get a pass because I'm sure it will be "Araian's fault." :wink:

There is a thread on the same page discussing how the Steelers are still waiting for Timmons to reach his potential. That isn't a compliment; it's saying that he hasn't lived up to expectations yet.

Discipline of Steel
08-25-2010, 11:03 PM
If Pouncey gets the starting gig, and Hartwig gets shown the door, does this guarentee Essex remains at RG? Because it would be very unlike the Steelers to destabelise the OL by removing 2 starters from last years group, wouldn't it?

Chadman still thinks the best Steelers OL would be Starks, Kemo, Pouncey, Foster & Adams.



i read somewhere that Essex had pretty much won the RG spot now that Pouncey is playing center. the Steelers want to keep some stability with Essex, remember that Adams is learning a new position at RT as well.

the following season, i look for Ramon Foster to unseat Essex or Adams on the right side of the line.


I think RG is still TBD. If Essex holds serve, I think they leave him in there. Someone else would have to outplay him over the next couple weeks to sieze the position from him.

Oviedo
08-26-2010, 07:52 AM
I hope so because if he doesn't we will get the same cast of characters labeling him as a bust on this message board. However, he may get a pass because I'm sure it will be "Araian's fault." :wink:

cmon dude. you were the one on here stating what a awful pick it would be.

why must you constanly mock other posters for doing the same things you do? it gets very tiresome.

You're right I wanted us to take Iupati or Bulaga over Pouncey but since we took him I have been 100% supportive and have advocated him being the starting Center. I'm thrilled he has proven me wrong thus far about my concerns of his ability to power block against the NTs in the AFC North. I'll also never call him a bust or any other young player the Steelers draft but my point was others will when he struggles which he will.

Captain Lemming
08-26-2010, 09:25 AM
Within three years, I'm going to say that he'll be considered the best center in the game. Pro-Bowl his 2nd year.
He'll most likely be battling Mangold for a while for the AFC's Pro Bowl spot. Our expectations aren't that high right? :lol:

battling Mangold?
Selling our guy a little short dont ya think? Hater. :lol:

Captain Lemming
08-26-2010, 09:54 AM
With Ngata, Rogers, Cody, that dude with red hair from Cincy in the division, and others, he is going to have his work cut out for him. It's going to be a challenge, but IMO he is ready.

I hope so because if he doesn't we will get the same cast of characters labeling him as a bust on this message board. However, he may get a pass because I'm sure it will be "Araian's fault." :wink:

There is a thread on the same page discussing how the Steelers are still waiting for Timmons to reach his potential. That isn't a compliment; it's saying that he hasn't lived up to expectations yet.
Do you disagree?
He hasnt reached his potential. That is a good thing to say about him.
To say otherwise is to say he will never be great, since we have seen his best already.

Much worse is someone like Kemo who I "thought" had more upside and I "fear" may have "reached" his potential. But he wasnt a high pick so my expectations were perhaps unrealistic anyway.

frankthetank1
08-26-2010, 10:02 AM
With Ngata, Rogers, Cody, that dude with red hair from Cincy in the division, and others, he is going to have his work cut out for him. It's going to be a challenge, but IMO he is ready.

I hope so because if he doesn't we will get the same cast of characters labeling him as a bust on this message board. However, he may get a pass because I'm sure it will be "Araian's fault." :wink:

There is a thread on the same page discussing how the Steelers are still waiting for Timmons to reach his potential. That isn't a compliment; it's saying that he hasn't lived up to expectations yet.
Do you disagree?
He hasnt reached his potential. That is a good thing to say about him.
To say otherwise is to say he will never be great, since we have seen his best already.

Much worse is someone like Kemo who I "thought" had more upside and I "fear" may have "reached" his potential. But he wasnt a high pick so my expectations were perhaps unrealistic anyway.

i was thinking the same thing. if had reached his potential he would really be a bust. its not easy to go from a 4-3 OLB to a 3-4 MLB. maybe one of the hardest transitions to make. timmons is only 24 as well. he will get there, no reason to worry.

Captain Lemming
08-26-2010, 10:08 AM
Within three years, I'm going to say that he'll be considered the best center in the game. Pro-Bowl his 2nd year.
He'll most likely be battling Mangold for a while for the AFC's Pro Bowl spot. Our expectations aren't that high right? :lol: Approx what year will he be inducted into the Hall??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Let him. Pouncey is a stud, and imo the best offensive lineman to come out in years. Sure LT's are more important so they get drafted high, but.. you'll see.

In years?
You imply that there have been better lineman drafted in the past, albeit "years" ago. Isnt it just a wee bit early to ASSUME our guy will not be the best lineman ever in the history of the game? Yet another hater. :D

ikestops85
08-26-2010, 10:20 AM
I have a feeling our guards will play better when we get better play from our center. IMO Hartwig got pushed around and back too much which caused a traffic jam in the middle with our guards. The guards were not able to get to their assignment which made them look worse than they are.

If Pouncey can handle the AFC North nose tackles this unit could improve tremendously. I'm not saying it will make Kemo and Essex Pro Bowlers but you will see a marked improvement in their play.

papillon
08-26-2010, 10:30 AM
Looks like it. He is further along than I thought he would be at this point. Starting center for the Steelers as a rookie? I don't believe that has ever happened in the history of the franchise. Am I forgetting someone? Not even Dawson did that. He started at G.

It's not hard to be further along than the 32nd rated center in the NFL last year. As a matter of fact, I would say that any center taken in the first round should be able to displace the bottom third of league's centers as a rookie.

The Steelers tend to be cautious inserting rookies into the lineup in general. Pouncey has outplayed Hartwig and earned a start, lets see how it goes for three quarters this week against an opponents first team defense.

Pappy

steelblood
08-26-2010, 11:04 AM
I hope so because if he doesn't we will get the same cast of characters labeling him as a bust on this message board. However, he may get a pass because I'm sure it will be "Araian's fault." :wink:

cmon dude. you were the one on here stating what a awful pick it would be.

why must you constanly mock other posters for doing the same things you do? it gets very tiresome.

You're right I wanted us to take Iupati or Bulaga over Pouncey but since we took him I have been 100% supportive and have advocated him being the starting Center. I'm thrilled he has proven me wrong thus far about my concerns of his ability to power block against the NTs in the AFC North. I'll also never call him a bust or any other young player the Steelers draft but my point was others will when he struggles which he will.

What is with always calling out other posters (even before they do something)? I think you are a GREAT poster Ovie, one of my favorites on this board. You are knowledgeable and observant. But, somewhere along the line, you took up the cause of beating down the alarmists. This can be entertaining in moderation, but has become more of an obsession. I apologize if this offends you. Again, I really do respect your knowledge and thoughts.

SteelerNation1
08-26-2010, 11:11 AM
Can someone please answer this question. What benefit does it provide to cut Justin Hartwig? There is no cap this yr, so am I missing something? Why not keep him and Legursky? If Pouncey goes down and we've cut Hartwig, where does that leave us???

RuthlessBurgher
08-26-2010, 11:13 AM
If Pouncey gets the starting gig, and Hartwig gets shown the door, does this guarentee Essex remains at RG? Because it would be very unlike the Steelers to destabelise the OL by removing 2 starters from last years group, wouldn't it?

Chadman still thinks the best Steelers OL would be Starks, Kemo, Pouncey, Foster & Adams.



i read somewhere that Essex had pretty much won the RG spot now that Pouncey is playing center. the Steelers want to keep some stability with Essex, remember that Adams is learning a new position at RT as well.

the following season, i look for Ramon Foster to unseat Essex or Adams on the right side of the line.

I think they keep Essex there for continuity's sake (not necessarily talent-wise). Much has been talked about how much Trai has helped Hotel in his adjustment to the right side in our scheme. While Essex may not be the most talented o-lineman we have, he is a smart guy (graduated from Northwestern), so that could benefit our new RT and our rookie center as well (since I doubt that Pouncey will be looking for advice regarding the mental aspects of the game from the guy on the other side who is more talented than Essex but seems to have a pile of rocks between his ears).

phillyesq
08-26-2010, 11:16 AM
I hope so because if he doesn't we will get the same cast of characters labeling him as a bust on this message board. However, he may get a pass because I'm sure it will be "Araian's fault." :wink:

There is a thread on the same page discussing how the Steelers are still waiting for Timmons to reach his potential. That isn't a compliment; it's saying that he hasn't lived up to expectations yet.
Do you disagree?
He hasnt reached his potential. That is a good thing to say about him.
To say otherwise is to say he will never be great, since we have seen his best already.

Much worse is someone like Kemo who I "thought" had more upside and I "fear" may have "reached" his potential. But he wasnt a high pick so my expectations were perhaps unrealistic anyway.

I completely agree that he hasn't reached his potential. While, as a Steelers fan, I'm hopeful that he will reach his potential, I've been disappointed with Timmons to date. This is a guy who, at one point last year, got pulled for a Keyaron Fox for a few series. Not what you're expecting from the 16th overall pick in his third year.

phillyesq
08-26-2010, 11:34 AM
Can someone please answer this question. What benefit does it provide to cut Justin Hartwig? There is no cap this yr, so am I missing something? Why not keep him and Legursky? If Pouncey goes down and we've cut Hartwig, where does that leave us???

The benefits to cutting Hartwig are:

1) It allows you to keep a younger guy, whether Legursky, Urbik or Foster;

2) Even though there is no cap, it does save $2 million - money that could be put towards a signing bonus for somebody like Woodley next year;

The potential downside to cutting Hartwig is:

1) Lose a veteran mentor; and

2) Less depth at center.

Oviedo
08-26-2010, 12:04 PM
Can someone please answer this question. What benefit does it provide to cut Justin Hartwig? There is no cap this yr, so am I missing something? Why not keep him and Legursky? If Pouncey goes down and we've cut Hartwig, where does that leave us???

The benefits to cutting Hartwig are:

1) It allows you to keep a younger guy, whether Legursky, Urbik or Foster;

2) Even though there is no cap, it does save $2 million - money that could be put towards a signing bonus for somebody like Woodley next year;

The potential downside to cutting Hartwig is:

1) Lose a veteran mentor; and

2) Less depth at center.

Losing a veteran mentor IMO could be a huge loss as Pouncey prepares to deal with the AFC North defensive linemen. hartwig has played those guys. Legursky hasn't as a Center.

Tough decision. Money issues aside I probably Keep Hartwig and Urbik and release Legursky. Probably not a popular opinion but that is what I would do.

Dee Dub
08-26-2010, 07:57 PM
Within three years, I'm going to say that he'll be considered the best center in the game. Pro-Bowl his 2nd year.

Wow...your mouth to God's ears.