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RuthlessBurgher
08-05-2010, 01:27 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d819897bd/article/goodell-will-decide-on-roethlisbergers-suspension-after-preseason?module=HP_headlines


Goodell will decide on Roethlisberger's suspension after preseason
Associated Press
Published: Aug. 5, 2010 at 11:33 a.m.
Updated: Aug. 5, 2010 at 01:19 p.m.

LATROBE, Pa. -- NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell likes everything Ben Roethlisberger is doing to reshape his life since being accused of sexual assault five months ago. But Goodell isn't ready yet to cut the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback's suspension from six to four games.

Goodell talked with Roethlisberger while visiting Steelers training camp Thursday, saying he won't make a final decision on how long the quarterback will be out until the end of the preseason.

The Steelers expect Roethlisberger's suspension for bad behavior to be cut to four games. That would allow the two-time Super Bowl winner to return for a Oct. 17 game against the AFC North rival Cleveland Browns.

Goodell was vague when asked several times if Roethlisberger's suspension could be reduced even further. Later, league officials clarified that the commissioner's April 21 ruling specified a minimum of four games.

For the second day in a row, Goodell praised Roethlisberger's efforts following an embarrassing, image-damaging incident that left some of the quarterback's biggest fans angry and disgusted. Some fans burned his jersey; others said they intended to boo him even if the Steelers played well.

"I think he's doing great," Goodell said of Roethlisberger. "I had a chance to chat with him ... and I'm very encouraged by what I'm seeing. I think he's understanding the seriousness of the issue and is working to improve and to make better decisions. I think that's a very positive development."

Goodell expects to meet with Roethlisberger at league headquarters in New York sometime near the end of the preseason before deciding whether or not to reduce the suspension.

"I'm very encouraged by what he's doing," Goodell said. "I'll take the period of time that I have before making the decision and make it probably right before the regular season."

After Roethlisberger was accused of, but not charged with, assaulting a 20-year-old Georgia college student in a Milledgeville, Ga., bar, the NFL ordered the quarterback to undergo an unspecified evaluation. After completing the evaluation, Roethlisberger was allowed to return to the Steelers' offseason workouts.

Roethlisberger is practicing -- his coaches said he has never looked better during training camp -- and can play in preseason games. Once the season starts and he is suspended, Roethlisberger can't have contact with the team, unless there is an injury issue, until he is eligible to play. He can't attend team meetings or practice while suspended.

"I hope he'll continue to focus on himself and work on what his advisers are suggesting he needs to focus on and use it (the suspension) as a productive period for him," Goodell said.

On Wednesday, Goodell said during a visit to Baltimore Ravens training camp that Roethlisberger was going "above and beyond" what the league was asking.

Asked what he considered to be above and beyond, Goodell said, "I think his effort and his focus. He's hasn't just done what he's been told to do, I think he's worked hard to really try to improve and focus on himself and understand what's he's been though and what he's going to do differently going forward. I think that's a very positive thing."

Roethlisberger has been treated warmly by Steelers fans so far at camp, but he might receive a better indication of how much animosity there is toward him when the team play its first home preseason game Aug. 14.

Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press

Oviedo
08-05-2010, 01:35 PM
The idiot can't just help himself from raking Ben over the coals while at the same time giving Vince Young, Cedric Benson, Tom Cable and Phil Merling free passes.

Ben's had better get less than 4 games when this is all over.

Crash
08-05-2010, 01:48 PM
4 games minimum.

I hope the Madden bus falls off a cliff.

cruzer8
08-05-2010, 02:13 PM
Goodell is a gigantic, used douche.

Stewie
08-05-2010, 02:22 PM
His statement is just an attempt to get out of camp alive.

grotonsteel
08-05-2010, 02:27 PM
Douchery at its best....Such a tool...Can't do a thing right...

A-Hole needs to suspend himself for tarnishing the shield.

papillon
08-05-2010, 02:30 PM
Here's a question unrelated to the suspension and related to Ben.

He's going to miss the first four games (it sounds as if the suspension will be reduced), but can play in the pre-season. The Steelers know what they have in Lefty, Dixon and Batch. Ben is going to play the moment he is eligible.

Should coach Tomlin give Ben the snaps that the second string quarterback would get in the pre-season games to get him game action until he can not participate any longer with the team?

First pre-season game - Starter (probably Lefty) plays a series, maybe two giving way to Ben to at least finish the half.

Second pre-season game - Starter usually plays the first quarter, giving way to Ben to play the 2nd and 3rd quarters.

Third pre-season game - Starter plays three quarters, no reps for Ben, let the others finish this game

Fourth pre-season game - Starter plays a series, gives way to Ben until half, the others finish.

This will give Ben some game speed work, let him get some hits and work on the timing with the rookies and second year guys. Lefty gets the starter reps, Dixon works as the #3 and Batch gets what's left over. Tomlin knows exactly what each of these guys can do, it's not like he needs to evaluate the QB position.

When Ben comes back, at least, he's seen live game speed action and may be better prepared to take over the reins.

Just a thought

Pappy

phillyesq
08-05-2010, 02:31 PM
The idiot can't just help himself from raking Ben over the coals while at the same time giving Vince Young, Cedric Benson, Tom Cable and Phil Merling free passes.

Ben's had better get less than 4 games when this is all over.

In all fairness to Goodell (whose inconsistency I don't care for), he had only positive things to say about Ben in that article. The author threw in some shots at Ben, but that rests with him more than Goodell.

Flasteel
08-05-2010, 05:16 PM
Here's a question unrelated to the suspension and related to Ben.

He's going to miss the first four games (it sounds as if the suspension will be reduced), but can play in the pre-season. The Steelers know what they have in Lefty, Dixon and Batch. Ben is going to play the moment he is eligible.

Should coach Tomlin give Ben the snaps that the second string quarterback would get in the pre-season games to get him game action until he can not participate any longer with the team?

First pre-season game - Starter (probably Lefty) plays a series, maybe two giving way to Ben to at least finish the half.

Second pre-season game - Starter usually plays the first quarter, giving way to Ben to play the 2nd and 3rd quarters.

Third pre-season game - Starter plays three quarters, no reps for Ben, let the others finish this game

Fourth pre-season game - Starter plays a series, gives way to Ben until half, the others finish.

This will give Ben some game speed work, let him get some hits and work on the timing with the rookies and second year guys. Lefty gets the starter reps, Dixon works as the #3 and Batch gets what's left over. Tomlin knows exactly what each of these guys can do, it's not like he needs to evaluate the QB position.

When Ben comes back, at least, he's seen live game speed action and may be better prepared to take over the reins.

Just a thought

Pappy

I think we'll see Ben start the first pre-season game...a statement that it's still his team. I agree that he should get most of his reps in the 2nd and early 3rd quarter. You don't want him out there with a bunch of goombas trying to earn a roster spot. I would however, give him action in every game.

hawaiiansteel
08-06-2010, 12:24 AM
Goodell undecided on discipline for gun-toting Browns

Posted by Michael David Smith on August 5, 2010


Two members of the Cleveland Browns' defensive line, Shaun Rogers and Robaire Smith, have been charged this offseason with offenses related to possessing guns at airports. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says he's still reviewing both matters and hasn't determined the best course of action.

"Both cases are still under review by our staff," Goodell said during his visit to the Browns' training camp today. "I don't have any plans to specifically sit down with either one of them."

Both players will be disciplined, Goodell said, but it's not clear whether that discipline will consist of a fine or a suspension.

"I'm not going to make any judgments about it other than it's a clear mistake," Goodell said. "It is a violation of law. It's the kind of judgments that we have to make sure we do a better job of avoiding."

Although it won't keep Goodell from disciplining Rogers, Goodell did take note of the fact that Rogers helped police catch a drunk driver last month.

"It's a great example," Goodell said, "of a young man making a mistake on one hand and then doing something positive on the other."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ng-browns/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/05/goodell-undecided-on-discipline-for-gun-toting-browns/)

Crash
08-06-2010, 12:32 AM
If he doesn't suspend Rogers for at least four if I'm Ben I call a lawyer and sue for his lost wages based on discrimination.

Rogers has a substance abuse policy suspension, was accused of sexual assault, and now this. He should get at least 4 games, if not six.

Crash
08-06-2010, 12:35 AM
"It's a great example," Goodell said, "of a young man making a mistake on one hand and then doing something positive on the other."

Ben was accused of raping McNulty.

Later in 2009:

http://www.wpxi.com/news/21256906/detail.html

We'll see if Rog uses Rogers good deed to let him off the hook.

hawaiiansteel
08-06-2010, 08:33 PM
More players sound off on Roger Goodell's visits

Posted by Michael David Smith on August 6, 2010


Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall said this week that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell's visit with the team was a "total waste of time." It turns out that Redskins camp wasn't the only place where Goodell met a hostile audience.

Players on the Ravens, Chiefs and Browns told FanHouse they weren't satisfied with what they heard when Goodell visited their training camps.

Chiefs guard Brian Waters was all smiles when Goodell handed him the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award six months ago, but Waters told FanHouse he didn't appreciate the way Goodell tried to pass himself off as a "liaison" between the players and owners.

"I mean, that's almost like a slap in the face to our intelligence," Waters said. "We know the owners are paying him. Don't take us for granted as far as our understanding of what's going on here."

Ravens cornerback Domonique Foxworth said that when Goodell called himself a liaison, "You could definitely hear guys chuckling."

And Browns linebacker Scott Fujita said Goodell didn't have answers for the questions he and his teammates asked.

"I was hopeful we'd get some more answers," Fujita said. "I think he came in unprepared for how educated the players were going to be. A lot of guys were concerned about it afterward, and I think kind of shocked for how unprepared he was for these kinds of questions."

Goodell has already met with eight teams and has more visits scheduled on his training camp tour, with the Colts up next on Saturday.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ls-visits/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/06/more-players-sound-off-on-roger-goodells-visits/)

RuthlessBurgher
08-07-2010, 01:04 PM
More players sound off on Roger Goodell's visits

Posted by Michael David Smith on August 6, 2010


Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall said this week that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell's visit with the team was a "total waste of time." It turns out that Redskins camp wasn't the only place where Goodell met a hostile audience.

Players on the Ravens, Chiefs and Browns told FanHouse they weren't satisfied with what they heard when Goodell visited their training camps.

Chiefs guard Brian Waters was all smiles when Goodell handed him the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award six months ago, but Waters told FanHouse he didn't appreciate the way Goodell tried to pass himself off as a "liaison" between the players and owners.

"I mean, that's almost like a slap in the face to our intelligence," Waters said. "We know the owners are paying him. Don't take us for granted as far as our understanding of what's going on here."

Ravens cornerback Domonique Foxworth said that when Goodell called himself a liaison, "You could definitely hear guys chuckling."

And Browns linebacker Scott Fujita said Goodell didn't have answers for the questions he and his teammates asked.

"I was hopeful we'd get some more answers," Fujita said. "I think he came in unprepared for how educated the players were going to be. A lot of guys were concerned about it afterward, and I think kind of shocked for how unprepared he was for these kinds of questions."

Goodell has already met with eight teams and has more visits scheduled on his training camp tour, with the Colts up next on Saturday.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ls-visits/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/06/more-players-sound-off-on-roger-goodells-visits/)

I think most of the players' concerns with Goodell are about the potential lockout, though, not about any inconsitencies regarding discpline of players, coaches, and front office executives. Brian Waters is the Chiefs' union player rep, Dominique Foxworth is the Ravens' union player rep, and Scott Fujita was the player union rep for the Saints (not sure if he has the same position now that he is in Cleveland).