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fordfixer
08-03-2010, 10:26 PM
Steelers coordinator: Roethlisberger never better

By ALAN ROBINSON, AP Sports Writer
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=A ... hlisberger (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Al9oeXpNI29WTwXNaMcFyXhDubYF?slug=ap-steelers-roethlisberger)

LATROBE, Pa. (AP)—If Ben Roethlisberger’s(notes) offseason troubles are bothering him, Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians certainly hasn’t noticed.

Less than a week into training camp, Arians’ assessment of his quarterback: Never been better.

Arians can’t remember Roethlisberger being in such good shape or throwing the ball this well so early during any of his previous six camps. He has yet to be intercepted during team drills, and Roethlisberger has gone entire practices without throwing an incompletion.

“He’s in the best shape I’ve ever seen him,” Arians said Tuesday. “His arm is live and he has no interceptions and very few incompletions unless they were dropped. This may be the best I’ve ever seen him right now.”

Roethlisberger is quickly alleviating any Steelers worries that he might be distracted or preoccupied with the offseason accusation that he sexually assaulted a Georgia college student. He was not charged following the March incident, but was suspended by the NFL for six games—a punishment that could be shortened to four games.

Roethlisberger admittedly was worried before camp opened how the fans would react to him, given the intense criticism he received following the accusation. So far, there been no sign of hostility at Saint Vincent College, no booing or discernible anti-Roethlisberger sentiment.

“You can tell he’s been working to improve himself,” wide receiver Hines Ward(notes) said.

Instead, Roethlisberger has looked so sharp, Arians is focusing more time on figuring out what the Steelers will do offensively during the suspension.

The answer: Probably not as much as they could if Roethlisberger played a full season.

Byron Leftwich(notes), all but certain to start while Roethlisberger sits out, possesses an intimate knowledge of the offense and throws the deep ball well, but is not as mobile.

Dennis Dixon(notes), the third-year quarterback from Oregon, runs better than any Steelers quarterback since Kordell Stewart but has a single game of starting experience. He’ll likely begin the season as the starter only if Leftwich gets hurt.

Arians is so encouraged by how Roethlisberger looks, he believes the offense can be as good as it was last season, even though Roethlisberger can play no more than three-quarters of the season. Roethlisberger threw for a career-high 4,328 yards in 15 games and Hines Ward and the now-departed Santonio Holmes(notes) each had more than 1,000 yards receiving.

“We want to improve the running game, but we damn sure don’t want to step back in the passing game,” Arians said. “We want to have another 4,000-yard passer and two 1,000-yard receivers, and I don’t care who they are. Now put the running game back to where it belongs, and I think we’re pretty potent offensively.”

Returning the running game back to a Steelers-like level—Pittsburgh ranked an uncommonly low 19th in rushing last season—was believed to be a major priority. But the necessity of preparing two starting quarterbacks in camp, one to start the season and the other to finish it, is shifting some attention away from that.

Arians and coach Mike Tomlin still aren’t saying how much Roethlisberger and Leftwich will play during the four exhibition games, beginning Aug. 14 against Detroit. Because the starters rarely play past the first quarter, except during the third preseason game, there probably won’t be enough snaps available for both quarterbacks to play with the starting line.

Regardless, Arians dismissed the speculation that Roethlisberger would play only with the starters to avoid injury.

“We did that (played the starters longer) two years ago and the guys wore out,” Arians said. “It’s a fine line. And I like our backup line. That whole second group, I don’t mind putting anybody out with them. … We’re not afraid to throw the football because somebody might get hurt. We’ll wait and see, but I would not see us giving our first team offensive line extra snaps.”

Roethlisberger cannot practice during his suspension, so the only work he’ll get with the offense until October will be during camp and in the preseason games.

“He’s still driving the bus, and he wants to be good in every drill—and when we get competing, that’s Ben,” quarterbacks coach Randy Fichtner said. “He’s competing at a high level right now because he knows the importance of the carryover he’ll have for later.”

Crash
08-03-2010, 10:33 PM
Apparently ESPN doesn't agree.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?ve ... listId=322 (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=3&listId=322)

fordfixer
08-03-2010, 10:36 PM
Apparently ESPN doesn't agree.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?ve ... listId=322 (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=3&listId=322)
Apparently

papillon
08-03-2010, 10:45 PM
Apparently ESPN doesn't agree.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?ve ... listId=322 (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=3&listId=322)

Vince Freakin Young...http://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gif

That's about as asinine as you can get right there. A list of clutch quarterbacks currently in the NFL and Ben isn't listed.

Pappy

dirt
08-03-2010, 10:56 PM
Apparently ESPN doesn't agree.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?ve ... listId=322 (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=3&listId=322)

Vince Freakin Young...http://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gif

That's about as asinine as you can get right there. A list of clutch quarterbacks currently in the NFL and Ben isn't listed.

Pappy

You mean a list of 13 clutch quarterbacks currently in the NFL and Ben isn't listed.

papillon
08-03-2010, 11:01 PM
Apparently ESPN doesn't agree.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?ve ... listId=322 (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=3&listId=322)

Vince Freakin Young...http://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gif

That's about as asinine as you can get right there. A list of clutch quarterbacks currently in the NFL and Ben isn't listed.

Pappy

You mean a list of 13 clutch quarterbacks currently in the NFL and Ben isn't listed.

Yup, unclutch Ben is not in the top 13 clutch quarterbacks in the NFL. Except for Brady, there isn't another on that list that I would take over Ben with 2 minutes, the ball and down by 6 points.

Good luck with the rest of them, Ben has done it on the biggest stage in football and has made a habit of getting the lead late in games with clutch performances. Eh, he's not clutch at all...

Pappy

fordfixer
08-03-2010, 11:08 PM
Apparently ESPN doesn't agree.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?ve ... listId=322 (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=3&listId=322)

Vince Freakin Young...http://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gifhttp://stillernation.com/phpbb/images/smilies/rofl.gif

That's about as asinine as you can get right there. A list of clutch quarterbacks currently in the NFL and Ben isn't listed.

Pappy

You mean a list of 13 clutch quarterbacks currently in the NFL and Ben isn't listed.

Yup, unclutch Ben is not in the top 13 clutch quarterbacks in the NFL. Except for Brady, there isn't another on that list that I would take over Ben with 2 minutes, the ball and down by 6 points.

Good luck with the rest of them, Ben has done it on the biggest stage in football and has made a habit of getting the lead late in games with clutch performances. Eh, he's not clutch at all...

Pappy


I'll still take unclutch Ben :tt1 :tt1

siss
08-03-2010, 11:40 PM
I might even take him over that guy in New England to.

Captain Lemming
08-04-2010, 12:03 AM
Apparently ESPN doesn't agree.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?ve ... listId=322 (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=3&listId=322)

Wow, that is absolutely UNBELIEVABLE!!!

feltdizz
08-04-2010, 08:50 AM
I don't think Brady is the guy I want if I need a TD to win. If I needed a FG and Vinatteri was my kicker then sure...

I've always thought Brady was given too much credit for getting his team in FG range.

I think Cassell also proved they have a pretty good passing system in place and its not really about the QB's creativity its just being quick in the progressions and taking what the D gives you.

frankthetank1
08-04-2010, 08:56 AM
I don't think Brady is the guy I want if I need a TD to win. If I needed a FG and Vinatteri was my kicker then sure...

I've always thought Brady was given too much credit for getting his team in FG range.

I think Cassell also proved they have a pretty good passing system in place and its not really about the QB's creativity its just being quick in the progressions and taking what the D gives you.

i agree brady has gotten way too much credit for what he has done. his acomplishments are largely due to the system he has played in. brady has always been a smart qb, but their offense is all dink and dunk screen passes for the most part. that playoff game last season against the ravens was absolutely pathetic. i never saw elway, marino, montanna or even ben for that matter play so badly in a playoff game

Steelers>NFL
08-04-2010, 10:11 AM
I sent an email to ESPN with the complaint that Ben was not on the list to choose.
That how could they do ommit his name and that since he has started, he has the most 4th quarter comebacks in the league.
Can not wait until I get response from them.

Captain Lemming
08-06-2010, 12:57 AM
Brady is a "get to field goal range" master without peer.
No defense can keep him from "just outside of the red zone" when the game is on the line.


I don't think Brady is the guy I want if I need a TD to win. If I needed a FG and Vinatteri was my kicker then sure...

I've always thought Brady was given too much credit for getting his team in FG range.

I think Cassell also proved they have a pretty good passing system in place and its not really about the QB's creativity its just being quick in the progressions and taking what the D gives you.

BURGH86STEEL
08-06-2010, 05:30 AM
There are only 2 QB's that I would consider taking over Ben in the final minutes of games (Brady before his injury and Peyton Manning).