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fordfixer
06-27-2010, 01:10 AM
Report: Braylon Edwards will escape a suspension
Posted by Mike Florio on June 26, 2010 7:32 PM ET
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... uspension/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/26/report-braylon-edwards-will-escape-a-suspension/)

With receiver Santonio Holmes already due to miss the first four games of the 2010 season after his latest violation of the league's substance abuse policy, the Jets have gotten some good news regarding receiver Braylon Edwards.

Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com reports that Edwards won't be suspended after pleading no contest to misdemeanor assault in an incident only days before he was traded by the Browns to the Jets.

Though many expected a suspension of at least one game, the outcome meshes with the precedent set two years ago, after then-Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter received a fine in the amount of one game check after pleading no contest to beating up former Bengals tackle Levi Jones in a Las Vegas casino.

Thus, as to Edwards, we suspect he'll be fined in the amount of one game check, which based on his salary equates to $256,176.47.

The development also is good news for Titans quarterback Vince Young, who faces misdemeanor assault allegations resulting from an incident at a strip club earlier this month.

Commissioner Roger Goodell's decision to suspend Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger for six games despite never being arrested suggested that a new attitude to offseason misconduct may apply going forward. The outcome as to Edwards suggests that Goodell will be inclined to inject some consistency into the process of meting out discipline under the Personal Conduct Policy.

That said, look for Steelers fans to cry foul regarding the perceived inconsistency between the treatment of Edwards and Roethlisberger. Still, Edwards was a first-time offender. The Roethlisberger situation proved that repeat occurrences will result in significant consequences.

So if Edwards gets in trouble again, he can expect a suspension. The only open question will be its duration.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
06-27-2010, 01:25 AM
Report: Braylon Edwards will escape a suspension
Posted by Mike Florio, d-bag on June 26, 2010 7:32 PM ET
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... uspension/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/26/report-braylon-edwards-will-escape-a-suspension/)

With receiver Santonio Holmes already due to miss the first four games of the 2010 season after his latest violation of the league's substance abuse policy, the Jets have gotten some good news regarding receiver Braylon Edwards.

Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com reports that Edwards won't be suspended after pleading no contest to misdemeanor assault in an incident only days before he was traded by the Browns to the Jets.

Though many expected a suspension of at least one game, the outcome meshes with the precedent set two years ago, after then-Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter received a fine in the amount of one game check after pleading no contest to beating up former Bengals tackle Levi Jones in a Las Vegas casino.

Thus, as to Edwards, we suspect he'll be fined in the amount of one game check, which based on his salary equates to $256,176.47.

The development also is good news for Titans quarterback Vince Young, who faces misdemeanor assault allegations resulting from an incident at a strip club earlier this month.

Commissioner Roger Goodell's decision to suspend Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger for six games despite never being arrested suggested that a new attitude to offseason misconduct may apply going forward. The outcome as to Edwards suggests that Goodell will be inclined to inject some consistency into the process of meting out discipline under the Personal Conduct Policy.

That said, look for Steelers fans to cry foul regarding the perceived inconsistency between the treatment of Edwards and Roethlisberger. Still, Edwards was a first-time offender. The Roethlisberger situation proved that repeat occurrences will result in significant consequences.

So if Edwards gets in trouble again, he can expect a suspension. The only open question will be its duration.

Sorry, Mr. D-bag pseudo- wanna-be reporter ... remind me please ... repeat occurrences of what? Oh, you mean repeat occurrences of not get charged with any crime, I understand!!

:Hater :loser :Hater :Hater

Crash
06-27-2010, 02:28 AM
Still, Edwards was a first-time offender.

And Ben is a no time offender.

Doesn't matter, Vincent Jackson is a THREE TIME OFFENDER and he hasn't been suspended.

hawaiiansteel
06-27-2010, 02:53 AM
Still, Edwards was a first-time offender.

And Ben is a no time offender.

Doesn't matter, Vincent Jackson is a THREE TIME OFFENDER and he hasn't been suspended.


O.J. Simpson would not have received a suspension from Roger Goodell...after all, O.J. was not a repeat offender as he only murdered somebody once!

flippy
06-27-2010, 07:54 AM
Still, Edwards was a first-time offender.

And Ben is a no time offender.

Doesn't matter, Vincent Jackson is a THREE TIME OFFENDER and he hasn't been suspended.


O.J. Simpson would not have received a suspension from Roger Goodell...after all, O.J. was not a repeat offender as he only murdered somebody once!

He was acquitted cause the glove didn't fitted.

flippy
06-27-2010, 07:55 AM
What's to stop someone of accusing other NFL players of random stuff?

Oviedo
06-27-2010, 08:17 AM
Still, Edwards was a first-time offender.

And Ben is a no time offender.

Doesn't matter, Vincent Jackson is a THREE TIME OFFENDER and he hasn't been suspended.


Edwards and Jackson are not rich, white QBs that Goodell feels he needs to make an example out of because he wants to send a message of impartiality to the other players in the league. Goodel was covering his backside against media criticism of targeting black players who misbehave. Ben gave him an excuse that he jumped all over.

While Goodel was the hatchet man don't underestimate the influence of the Rooney's in Ben's punishment. They gave the commish the greenlight to make an example out of Ben. Do you think Jerry Jones would have been so agreeable to throwing away 25% of their season to the commish to make a statement? Dan Snyder? Al Davis?

Allowing the commish to nail Ben also took heat off the Rooney's and covered their butts for how they dealt with Stupidio Holmes.

feltdizz
06-27-2010, 11:04 AM
Ben is a white QB? :shock:

I'm sorry, I find it funny how people keep referencing race. It wasn't really an issue before when Goodell was handing out suspensions. How many people jumped up and demanded Matt Jones get harsh treatment? Maybe a few but it was mostly jokes... I guess my point is most suspensions don't rub fans the wrong way until it's their teams player getting suspended. When James Harrison had a run in we didn't demand equality... When Jeff Reed had a run in... well, yeah, I do remember some people getting mad but no one was looking for justice. Now that Ben is suspended we want EVERYBODY suspended.

Anyway... Dan Rooney was the head of the search committee that picked Goodell. Maybe that has something to do with our owners cooperation.

Crash
06-27-2010, 11:20 AM
What's to stop someone of accusing other NFL players of random stuff?

NOTHING. And Goodell doesn't get that.

When he said all it takes is an accusation? All he did was put a bullseye on every player/coaches back.

Crash
06-27-2010, 11:22 AM
I'm sorry, I find it funny how people keep referencing race.

Thank the black media and black players for starting it.

feltdizz
06-27-2010, 11:27 AM
What's to stop someone of accusing other NFL players of random stuff?

NOTHING. And Goodell doesn't get that.

When he said all it takes is an accusation? All he did was put a bullseye on every player/coaches back.

Goodell made it clear when he arrived he was going to clean up the NFL. It's working too... DUI's are the same I think but arrest and criminal activity is down dramatically since his first year.

feltdizz
06-27-2010, 11:31 AM
I'm sorry, I find it funny how people keep referencing race.

Thank the black media and black players for starting it.

Thanks black media :stirpot

Why do you hate my QB black media?

GRRR! Black media and players :twisted:

I feel better now, complete. :mrgreen:

frankthetank1
06-27-2010, 12:44 PM
Ben is a white QB? :shock:

I'm sorry, I find it funny how people keep referencing race. It wasn't really an issue before when Goodell was handing out suspensions. How many people jumped up and demanded Matt Jones get harsh treatment? Maybe a few but it was mostly jokes... I guess my point is most suspensions don't rub fans the wrong way until it's their teams player getting suspended. When James Harrison had a run in we didn't demand equality... When Jeff Reed had a run in... well, yeah, I do remember some people getting mad but no one was looking for justice. Now that Ben is suspended we want EVERYBODY suspended.

Anyway... Dan Rooney was the head of the search committee that picked Goodell. Maybe that has something to do with our owners cooperation.

you do make some valid points that i do agree with to an extent, but why are so many players getting arrested and not getting suspensions? i think its very fair and accurate to say that goodell was influenced and or pressured by the media to punish ben as much as he could. it's not the black media though, its the media in general. i dont think ben being white has as much to do with it as much as him being an elite qb who has won 2 sb's.

frankthetank1
06-27-2010, 12:48 PM
i forgot to add that yes i am now upset that so many players get arrested and do not get suspended because of ben's suspension. the only reason why that is the case is because most steeler players do not get arressted or are in trouble. there are some players in the past but no way is it the norm for steelers to get in trouble with the law. ben is also the best steeler to ever get suspended i would be willing to bet. when bam morris or players who are just average to good get busted who really cares that much?

Crash
06-27-2010, 12:50 PM
Goodell made it clear when he arrived he was going to clean up the NFL. It's working too

It is? How? Explain yourself.

What's different? Nothing.

If anything players who get arrested are getting away with MORE.

Northern_Blitz
06-27-2010, 03:06 PM
Ben was suspended by the league because the Rooney's wanted to give him more than the 4 game max the team is allowed. Other players won't be held to the same standard because they don't work for the Rooneys. The commish has little to do with this except that he did what one of his owners asked him to do.

Captain Lemming
06-27-2010, 03:14 PM
Ben was suspended by the league because the Rooney's wanted to give him more than the 4 game max the team is allowed. Other players won't be held to the same standard because they don't work for the Rooneys. The commish has little to do with this except that he did what one of his owners asked him to do.

Money!!!

Just started a thread basically about what you just said.

stlrz d
06-27-2010, 05:47 PM
Ben was suspended by the league because the Rooney's wanted to give him more than the 4 game max the team is allowed. Other players won't be held to the same standard because they don't work for the Rooneys. The commish has little to do with this except that he did what one of his owners asked him to do.

Link? Source?

So what if it's reduced to 4? Does that mean this statement of fact is BS?

Crash
06-27-2010, 06:47 PM
It was the opposite. The Rooney's wanted to punish him themselves and Goodell wouldn't let them.

Captain Lemming
06-27-2010, 09:53 PM
It was the opposite. The Rooney's wanted to punish him themselves and Goodell wouldn't let them.

I agree the Rooneys "wanted" to punish Ben. But Goodell could make the penalty stick. We all know they met. As I have been saying they probablyl agreed on what Ben should get.

Crash
06-27-2010, 10:13 PM
It was the opposite. The Rooney's wanted to punish him themselves and Goodell wouldn't let them.

I agree the Rooneys "wanted" to punish Ben. But Goodell could make the penalty stick. We all know they met. As I have been saying they probablyl agreed on what Ben should get.

They didn't know until Goodell announced it. They were worried it was going to be 8-10 games.

Goodell set the number of games on his own. The Rooney's as far as I know had no clue until Goodell released his statement.

Captain Lemming
06-27-2010, 10:21 PM
It was the opposite. The Rooney's wanted to punish him themselves and Goodell wouldn't let them.

I agree the Rooneys "wanted" to punish Ben. But Goodell could make the penalty stick. We all know they met. As I have been saying they probablyl agreed on what Ben should get.

They didn't know until Goodell announced it. They were worried it was going to be 8-10 games.

Goodell set the number of games on his own. The Rooney's as far as I know had no clue until Goodell released his statement.

This is where I smell "conspiracy". They met and the Rooneys were ready to "accept whatever" punishment Ben got BEFORE the details were announced. I do not believe for a second that they truly had no idea what was coming.

Crash
06-27-2010, 10:22 PM
They knew he was being suspended. They had no clue on the amount of games. Where they "worked together" was setting the ground rules on the steps to help Ben off the field.

Captain Lemming
06-27-2010, 10:29 PM
They knew he was being suspended. They had no clue on the amount of games. Where they "worked together" was setting the ground rules on the steps to help Ben off the field.

Sure, I can see that as a good possibilityg.

MeetJoeGreene
06-27-2010, 10:54 PM
What's to stop someone of accusing other NFL players of random stuff?

Exactly! Would someone put it beyond Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder to arrange a setup, and making accusations ... getting players suspended. Or some Vegas people to try to influence outcomes/spreads.

Northern_Blitz
06-28-2010, 06:50 AM
[quote="Northern_Blitz":3b77p5sp]Ben was suspended by the league because the Rooney's wanted to give him more than the 4 game max the team is allowed. Other players won't be held to the same standard because they don't work for the Rooneys. The commish has little to do with this except that he did what one of his owners asked him to do.

Link? Source?

So what if it's reduced to 4? Does that mean this statement of fact is BS?[/quote:3b77p5sp]

I'm looking for the link. But, when talk of a suspension first came out, the news was that the team was going to let the league suspend him because they could only give him 4 games, and the league could do more.

Why do you think they didn't suspend him immeadiately (like they did for Holmes with the weed charges - also before he was convicted)?

Maybe they actually wanted 4 games, but saw the benifit of the league giving him more and having the suspension reduced to 4 games. That way Ben gets scared "straight", but the reduction in the suspension starts to build him image back up.

EDIT: In the report on this thread http://www.planetsteelers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11681&p=140316&hilit=+we+were+prepared+to+impose+#p140316 they say that they would have suspended him if the league didn't. They were also in consultation with the league and fully suported the suspension. They also let the league do the suspension (i.e. not an internal suspension). The team can only give 4 games, the league can give however many it wants. Don't see how you can argue that they didn't ask for this.

stlrz d
06-28-2010, 08:03 AM
[quote="stlrz d":337sh8ek][quote="Northern_Blitz":337sh8ek]Ben was suspended by the league because the Rooney's wanted to give him more than the 4 game max the team is allowed. Other players won't be held to the same standard because they don't work for the Rooneys. The commish has little to do with this except that he did what one of his owners asked him to do.

Link? Source?

So what if it's reduced to 4? Does that mean this statement of fact is BS?[/quote:337sh8ek]

I'm looking for the link. But, when talk of a suspension first came out, the news was that the team was going to let the league suspend him because they could only give him 4 games, and the league could do more.

Why do you think they didn't suspend him immeadiately (like they did for Holmes with the weed charges - also before he was convicted)?

Maybe they actually wanted 4 games, but saw the benifit of the league giving him more and having the suspension reduced to 4 games. That way Ben gets scared "straight", but the reduction in the suspension starts to build him image back up.

EDIT: In the report on this thread http://www.planetsteelers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11681&p=140316&hilit=+we+were+prepared+to+impose+#p140316 they say that they would have suspended him if the league didn't. They were also in consultation with the league and fully suported the suspension. They also let the league do the suspension (i.e. not an internal suspension). The team can only give 4 games, the league can give however many it wants. Don't see how you can argue that they didn't ask for this.[/quote:337sh8ek]

I know they were in consultation with the league. I know they said they would have suspended them if the league didn't. But please show me where they said they wanted the league to suspend him because they wanted him to get more than the 4 games they could give.

The Rooneys come out smelling like roses in all of this because they said they would punish their player but they never had to. How perfect for them.

Steelers>NFL
06-28-2010, 08:18 AM
Geez.........
It is time to let go of Ben bull crap and move on.
All the gripe and complaining is not going to get you or the Steelers anywhere.
You don't have to agree with it, but you need to accept it and move on.
Ben has, obviously.
We have Leftwich in the house. Steelers will be just fine wthout Ben for 4-6 games.

Oviedo
06-28-2010, 08:45 AM
Bottomline is that if the first four games go badly, the Rooney's have as much blame for that as Tomlin, the front office or the players.

Their desire to show themselves as more virtuous than other owners/teams places the season at risk by potentially absorbing a couple of losses early. Obviously, the "example" that they were trying to set since Braylon Edwards and Vince Young look to be escaping any league scrutiny or punishment.