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SteelCrazy
06-07-2010, 12:21 PM
http://www.timesonline.com/bct_news/new ... white.html (http://www.timesonline.com/bct_news/news_details/article/1373/2010/june/07/monday-madden-steelers-need-white.html)

The World Cup starts Friday. For me, itís the real football. For you, itís Steelers, Steelers, Steelers. So Iíll entertain you, and not myself, with refreshing Steelers notes. Big Ben until I die, Big Ben until I die, I know I am, Iím sure I am, Big Ben until I die!



-- If the Steelers are serious about making a bigger commitment to the run, they are ill-equipped to do so. Expecting sixth-round pick Jonathan Dwyer to provide power is a leap of faith, especially when rookies usually get short shrift in Pittsburgh. The answer: LenDale White, cut by Seattle. What a boost White and Ben Roethlisberger would provide in Week 6 when their suspensions finish. White would help the Steelers grind clock and keep their defense off the field in the fourth quarter.



Oh, I forgot: White desecrated a Terrible Towel once. Heíd have to stand trial for war crimes before joining the Steelers.



-- Ben Roethlisberger spoke to the media. Some feel he didnít say enough. What did you expect, play-by-play from the VIP menís room at Capital City? Some things, Roethlisberger simply isnít going to talk about, nor should he. Thereís no upside.

-- The weirdest part of Roethlisbergerís comeback will be when fans who proclaim undying love for the Steelers try to hinder the teamís cause by making Benís life as difficult as possible. Again, no upside. Iíd be interested in knowing how many of these people apply the same exacting moral standards to their own lives.



-- Roethlisberger would err if his first in-depth sit-down interview since Milledgeville is with a big-name national sportscaster or, God forbid, Oprah or Larry King. Roethlisbergerís biggest amends must be made with the people of Pittsburgh. He should talk with KDKA-TVís Bob Pompeani. Pompeani is credible, a good interviewer, and heís been fair to Ben. Anything of substance thatís said will be picked up nationally.



-- Receiving is a potential problem area. If Hines Ward or Mike Wallace gets hurt, the Steelersí pass-catching corps would be really, really bad.



-- The aforementioned reluctance the Steelers traditionally display when it comes to giving rookies meaningful roles will deprive them of a chance to strengthen their offensive line. No way Maurkice Pouncey isnít better than Trai Essex right now.

Pouncey is probably better than Justin Hartwig right now, too.

Pouncey might also be superior to Chris Kemoeatu.

I wonder if Pouncey can play wide receiver?

l Donít worry about James Harrison missing OTAs. He missed the entire second half of last season, too.

-- After initially looking shaken by his teamís off-field shenanigans, Mike Tomlin has regrouped. His clichť-ridden self-importance during interviews still irritates ó Tomlin comes off as part president, part Pope ó but heís regained his cool and composure and appears to be in control. Time will show if he really is.

-- Tomlin handled the four-headed quarterback monster perfectly when he gave Charlie Batch very little work at OTAs. Batch wonít play during Roethlisbergerís suspension unless Byron Leftwich and Dennis Dixon both get hurt, and heíll be cut when Ben returns. Itís not about being fair (although a QB of Batchís age, limited skill and meager accomplishment having a job at all, for any length of time, seems charitable, never mind fair). Itís about preparation. Save fair for the Homestead Little League.

-- Is Daniel Sepulvedaís job at risk? During his three-year NFL tenure, the former fourth-round pick has disappointed ó when he hasnít been injured, that is. If Adam Graessle (ex-Pitt) can match Sepulvedaís punting, he could provide a big upgrade on kickoffs.

-- Donít let the recent calm deceive you. The storm is just around the corner. Major distractions will combine with another tough year defensively to keep the Steelers out of the playoffs.

SteelCrazy
06-07-2010, 12:22 PM
This guy needs kicked in the ballons

cruzer8
06-07-2010, 12:51 PM
-- The weirdest part of Roethlisbergerís comeback will be when fans who proclaim undying love for the Steelers try to hinder the teamís cause by making Benís life as difficult as possible. Again, no upside. Iíd be interested in knowing how many of these people apply the same exacting moral standards to their own lives.

:Clap :Clap :Clap

ramblinjim
06-07-2010, 12:53 PM
if Lendale's old college coach can't stand him, why in the world would we want to try? the guy's been a bum.

I'm worried about James Harrison too.

I actually kind of agree that Ben should do an interview with a local guy and not Oprah. Larry King is a joke, but Oprah would eat him alive.

And I agree that our receivers are a little thin. It's a good year to be a rookie WR on the Steelers, one of the guys may not just get a job but get some playing time too. Maybe we'll see a double tight end set with Spaeth and Miller in too?

focosteeler
06-07-2010, 03:30 PM
if Lendale's old college coach can't stand him, why in the world would we want to try? the guy's been a bum.

I'm worried about James Harrison too.

I actually kind of agree that Ben should do an interview with a local guy and not Oprah. Larry King is a joke, but Oprah would eat him alive.

And I agree that our receivers are a little thin. It's a good year to be a rookie WR on the Steelers, one of the guys may not just get a job but get some playing time too. Maybe we'll see a double tight end set with Spaeth and Miller in too?

im not so worried about james...i think if the refs actually called holding when tackles grab his throat he could do better...but i think he is like polomalu just having him in there makes us better because its another player on the field that teams KNOW they have to watch for...also with woodley starting to dominate james should get more 1 on 1 chances...if not, if james and lamar are doubled a DL guy will be getting some double digit sacks this year

hawaiiansteel
06-07-2010, 03:47 PM
I say "NO" to LenWhale White, "YES" to Betty White -


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/201005/bettywhite_snickers_500.jpg

Oviedo
06-07-2010, 03:52 PM
Madden is an idiot who just tries to get attention:

White got poppoed for drugs and is facing a suspension. We trade Holmes because of his drug issues and then sign White. That makes sense :?

Pouncey may be good but why don't we actually wait for him to play against Pros in pads before we start giving jobs away.

Madden should actually go to OTAs and watch something. Wexell reported on a couple of occasions that Sepulveda has been booming punts while Grassele has looked terrible.

Anything Madden writes can be discounted as just trying to stir the pot. Not sure who is worse him or Harris.

RuthlessBurgher
06-07-2010, 04:05 PM
I say "NO" to LenWhale White, "YES" to Betty White -


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/201005/bettywhite_snickers_500.jpg

I'd also prefer:

Slappy

http://s3.amazonaws.com/findagrave/photos/2002/24/6107371_1011980952.jpg

Vanna

http://troglopundit.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/vanna-white1.jpg

Barry

http://anenews.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/barry_white071.jpg

Shaun

http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/shaun-white1.jpg

Meg & Jack

http://bigskymind.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/the_white_stripes_lyrics.jpg

hawaiiansteel
06-07-2010, 04:41 PM
I say "NO" to LenWhale White, "YES" to Betty White -


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/201005/bettywhite_snickers_500.jpg

I'd also prefer:

Slappy

http://s3.amazonaws.com/findagrave/photos/2002/24/6107371_1011980952.jpg

Vanna

http://troglopundit.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/vanna-white1.jpg

Barry

http://anenews.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/barry_white071.jpg

Shaun

http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/shaun-white1.jpg

Meg & Jack

http://bigskymind.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/the_white_stripes_lyrics.jpg



ok, of those i pick Vanna -

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F74vJj-Clzk/SCyNGQ5d-ZI/AAAAAAAACtg/HBiLaldtuss/s1600/vanna_white_1_r.jpghttp://ballyhooligan.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/vanna-white.jpg

phillyesq
06-07-2010, 04:52 PM
Madden is an idiot who just tries to get attention:

White got poppoed for drugs and is facing a suspension. We trade Holmes because of his drug issues and then sign White. That makes sense :?

Pouncey may be good but why don't we actually wait for him to play against Pros in pads before we start giving jobs away.

Madden should actually go to OTAs and watch something. Wexell reported on a couple of occasions that Sepulveda has been booming punts while Grassele has looked terrible.

Anything Madden writes can be discounted as just trying to stir the pot. Not sure who is worse him or Harris.

:Agree

Couldn't have said it better.

The asinine suggestion of Lendale White was clearly just done for attention.

What might have irritated me more were the attacks on Sepulvda - Madden implied that he has been injury prone when, in reality, the guy missed a season with a torn ACL. A serious (and somewhat fluke) injury does not make a player injury prone - it isn't like we're dealing with a 40 year old punter who is questionable every week with an achy hamstring.

Prok
06-07-2010, 05:00 PM
The only thing i could remotely agree with is us putting alot of eggs in the 6th rounders basket. My expectations aren't so high for the kid yet i suppose. If we're going to run the ball more i like the platoon system.

I think if Mendy gets hurt we're in a bit of a jam and probably a pass oriented team anyway. Not that i believe Bruce will change his spots either. lol

RuthlessBurgher
06-07-2010, 06:15 PM
I don't think we are putting too many eggs in the Dwyer basket. Right now, I'd consider him to be the #4 RB behind Mendenhall, Moore, and Redman (with Summers apparently converted to FB). I think he's more talented than Redman and will pass him on the depth chart in Latrobe. Mendenhall will be the bellcow and will be relieved by Moore or Dwyer depending on the situation (Mewelde if it's long yardage and Jonathan if it's short). If we were counting on him to start from day one, then yeah, that would be too many eggs in the Dwyer basket. But thinking of a rookie as a potential #3 RB isn't exactly counting on him to be great right away.

Flasteel
06-07-2010, 09:07 PM
Madden is an idiot who just tries to get attention:

White got poppoed for drugs and is facing a suspension. We trade Holmes because of his drug issues and then sign White. That makes sense :?

Pouncey may be good but why don't we actually wait for him to play against Pros in pads before we start giving jobs away.

Madden should actually go to OTAs and watch something. Wexell reported on a couple of occasions that Sepulveda has been booming punts while Grassele has looked terrible.

Anything Madden writes can be discounted as just trying to stir the pot. Not sure who is worse him or Harris.

:Agree

Couldn't have said it better.

The asinine suggestion of Lendale White was clearly just done for attention.

What might have irritated me more were the attacks on Sepulvda - Madden implied that he has been injury prone when, in reality, the guy missed a season with a torn ACL. A serious (and somewhat fluke) injury does not make a player injury prone - it isn't like we're dealing with a 40 year old punter who is questionable every week with an achy hamstring.

x 3 :Cheers

Prok
06-07-2010, 09:29 PM
I don't think we are putting too many eggs in the Dwyer basket. Right now, I'd consider him to be the #4 RB behind Mendenhall, Moore, and Redman (with Summers apparently converted to FB). I think he's more talented than Redman and will pass him on the depth chart in Latrobe. Mendenhall will be the bellcow and will be relieved by Moore or Dwyer depending on the situation (Mewelde if it's long yardage and Jonathan if it's short). If we were counting on him to start from day one, then yeah, that would be too many eggs in the Dwyer basket. But thinking of a rookie as a potential #3 RB isn't exactly counting on him to be great right away.

I guess i'm not as high on Moore or Redman either. Not that i want White though. Wouldn't mind if we pulled the trigger for a back who could come in and earn some carries. We'll see how camp shakes out though. I just don't think we're deep enough at RB should Mendy get hurt again.

feltdizz
06-07-2010, 10:55 PM
I'm not too high on Moore either and it looked like the coaches felt the same way. He was rarely used past year because Mend is a bigger and better 3rd down option.

As far as the White theory... Hell to the no.

Ben on Oprah would be a disaster... Ben would be sitting on the Chris Brown couch and nothing good would come of it. He would look guilty as hell.

DrCalculus
06-07-2010, 11:40 PM
Backs who are currently Free Agents (I think this is a current list):

Ladell Betts
Justin Fargas
Justin Griffith
Brad Hoover
Jeremi Johnson
Kevin Jones
LaMont Jordan
Jamal Lewis
Adrian Peterson (no, not that one)
Aaron Stecker
Brian Westbrook
Lendale White


Fargas seems an intriguing possibility. He had his moments in Oakland and is still relatively young. Kevin Jones also was looked at a couple of years ago before signing with Chicago, nearly signed on with the Steelers. Westbrook will probably be signed somewhere before a situation were to befall the team where they'd be looking for help. Most of the rest have seen better days.

If something serious were to happen in camp or early in the season, I could see them inquire as to the availability of a player such as Earnest Graham in TB or Julius Jones in Seattle, maybe even Marion Barber in Dallas as rumor has it he has fallen a little out of favor with the emergence of Felix Jones and Tashard Choice.

So I'm not seeing many really appealing options at this point. Best hope would normally be for another team to cut someone loose for cap reasons, but since there is no cap this year that is not going to happen. Anyone who gets cut at this point either has attitude issues or is underperforming his deal by a lot, so probably not someone who would be much of an upgrade over what they currently have on the bench.

Fargas, Jones, or call the Bills about Lynch.

Oviedo
06-08-2010, 08:42 AM
Backs who are currently Free Agents (I think this is a current list):

Ladell Betts
Justin Fargas
Justin Griffith
Brad Hoover
Jeremi Johnson
Kevin Jones
LaMont Jordan
Jamal Lewis
Adrian Peterson (no, not that one)
Aaron Stecker
Brian Westbrook
Lendale White


Fargas seems an intriguing possibility. He had his moments in Oakland and is still relatively young. Kevin Jones also was looked at a couple of years ago before signing with Chicago, nearly signed on with the Steelers. Westbrook will probably be signed somewhere before a situation were to befall the team where they'd be looking for help. Most of the rest have seen better days.

If something serious were to happen in camp or early in the season, I could see them inquire as to the availability of a player such as Earnest Graham in TB or Julius Jones in Seattle, maybe even Marion Barber in Dallas as rumor has it he has fallen a little out of favor with the emergence of Felix Jones and Tashard Choice.

So I'm not seeing many really appealing options at this point. Best hope would normally be for another team to cut someone loose for cap reasons, but since there is no cap this year that is not going to happen. Anyone who gets cut at this point either has attitude issues or is underperforming his deal by a lot, so probably not someone who would be much of an upgrade over what they currently have on the bench.

Fargas, Jones, or call the Bills about Lynch.

Forget Lynch. He is a doper. Why would we trade for him when we got rid of a far more talented doper in Holmes.

I think we will be fine if Dwyer can develop.

SteelAbility
06-08-2010, 09:37 AM
Not a good idea to pay dough only to get dough in return.

ikestops85
06-08-2010, 10:53 AM
No way do I want us to pick up White. He hasn't shown a thing in the NFL and I think even he might be starting to realize that.

I like Moore and think he is an excellent backup. He was money coming off the bench in 2008 behind that horrible O-line. Let's see what training camp brings with the young guys before we roll the dice on a veteran.

frankthetank1
06-08-2010, 11:09 AM
dweyer was a stud at Gtech. there is no reason to think he cannot become a good rb for many years in the nfl. he was an absolute steal in the sixth round. he could of easily been selected in rounds 2-3 and no one would have been shocked with that. i think we are fine at rb

Prok
06-08-2010, 11:37 AM
dweyer was a stud at Gtech. there is no reason to think he cannot become a good rb for many years in the nfl. he was an absolute steal in the sixth round. he could of easily been selected in rounds 2-3 and no one would have been shocked with that. i think we are fine at rb

Wish i had your confidence. For a team professing to be more effective in the run game i hope you're right too.

:Cheers

Godfather
06-08-2010, 10:07 PM
But can Lenwhale play center?

phillyesq
06-15-2010, 03:43 PM
http://www.timesonline.com/bct_news/news_details/article/1373/2010/june/07/monday-madden-steelers-need-white.html

-- Is Daniel Sepulvedaís job at risk? During his three-year NFL tenure, the former fourth-round pick has disappointed ó when he hasnít been injured, that is. If Adam Graessle (ex-Pitt) can match Sepulvedaís punting, he could provide a big upgrade on kickoffs.



Further evidence that Madden has zero credibility:



The Steelers made additional roster moves by releasing seven free agents, including wide receiver Jason Chery, kicker Piotr Czech, linebacker Derrick Doggett, punter Adam Graessle, nose tackle Cordarrow Thompson, center Bradley Vierling and cornerback Trae Williams.

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/ ... 3c615ab7b6

JPbucco
06-15-2010, 08:35 PM
Friends don't let friends...read mark madden.

He doesn't even deserve capital letters.

Chucktownsteeler
06-15-2010, 08:47 PM
Hell no to LenDon't White

RuthlessBurgher
06-16-2010, 09:13 AM
http://www.sportsocracy.org/imgs/mmadden.gif http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZoBj1eaSvSM/SicNdxWB_aI/AAAAAAAABI8/oWOybMB9pB4/s400/Vomito+Barf+Spaceballs+Loca.jpg

proudpittsburgher
06-16-2010, 09:36 AM
http://www.sportsocracy.org/imgs/mmadden.gif http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZoBj1eaSvSM/SicNdxWB_aI/AAAAAAAABI8/oWOybMB9pB4/s400/Vomito+Barf+Spaceballs+Loca.jpg


Best line from Spaceballs

Preacher: What's your name
Barf: Barf
Preacher: No, your full name
Barf: Barfolamu.

RuthlessBurgher
06-16-2010, 09:46 AM
I like "So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb" or "What's the matter, Colonel Sandurz? CHICKEN?"

Captain Lemming
06-17-2010, 02:26 AM
I like "So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb"

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/2/13/633701136919450060-DarkHelmet.jpg

hawaiiansteel
06-17-2010, 03:38 AM
LenDale White admits using marijuana, questions Pete Carroll

Posted by Michael David Smith on June 16, 2010


In his first interview since being released by the Seahawks, LenDale White acknowledged smoking marijuana during his NFL career and criticized Pete Carroll, the man who coached him in college at USC and coached him again, briefly, in Seattle.

"I did it, so it is my fault,'' White told Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean of his looming four-game drug suspension. "I smoked marijuana; that is all I have ever done. That's all I do, that's it. I smoke. I don't care about any other drugs, but it's marijuana. . . . But I have changed. I am a good man. Unfortunately the stuff that I did in my recent past caught up to me in the present and it's affecting my future.''

White seems angry at Carroll, the Seahawks coach who traded for him on draft day only to release him a month later.

"Pete Carroll? The same Pete Carroll who ran out on 'SC?'' said White, shaking his head. "I have no comment on Pete. I better wait 'til I'm on a team one day before I say anything.''

Whether White is ever on another NFL team is an open question. In both Tennessee and Seattle, there was talk that he doesn't work hard enough at getting himself into shape, and that he's more trouble than he's worth in the locker room.

White seems to understand that he might not get another chance.

"My emotions have been all over the place," White said. "My hope is to keep playing in the NFL, but I know now nothing is guaranteed. I now have to find a team, someone, that believes in me and trusts me and I can show I'm not a bad guy, not a bad teammate. I'm just going to keep praying to God that everything is going to work out.''

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... e-carroll/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/16/lendale-white-admits-using-marijuana-questions-pete-carroll/)

SteelAbility
06-17-2010, 12:30 PM
It's the other way around. White needs the Steelers ... you know ... to undo that Terrible Towel curse he brought on himself. :wink:

RuthlessBurgher
06-17-2010, 12:37 PM
"I smoked marijuana; that is all I have ever done. That's all I do, that's it. I smoke. I don't care about any other drugs, but it's marijuana. . . .

Doesn't sound like he learned his lesson to me. Sounds like he's still justifying his doobage. Considering that Santonio has done considerable things in this league (including SBXLIII MVP) and we dumped him for that, there is no way that we would bring in an underachieving pothead in the same offseason. Such a suggestion is just sheer stupidity.

hawaiiansteel
06-17-2010, 04:07 PM
"I smoked marijuana; that is all I have ever done. That's all I do, that's it. I smoke. I don't care about any other drugs, but it's marijuana. . . .

Doesn't sound like he learned his lesson to me. Sounds like he's still justifying his doobage. Considering that Santonio has done considerable things in this league (including SBXLIII MVP) and we dumped him for that, there is no way that we would bring in an underachieving pothead in the same offseason. Such a suggestion is just sheer stupidity.


I completely agree, Mark Madden actually gets paid to write crap like this? guess i should have been a sportswriter...

ikestops85
06-18-2010, 03:48 PM
"I smoked marijuana; that is all I have ever done. That's all I do, that's it. I smoke. I don't care about any other drugs, but it's marijuana. . . .

Doesn't sound like he learned his lesson to me. Sounds like he's still justifying his doobage. Considering that Santonio has done considerable things in this league (including SBXLIII MVP) and we dumped him for that, there is no way that we would bring in an underachieving pothead in the same offseason. Such a suggestion is just sheer stupidity.


I completely agree, Mark Madden actually gets paid to write crap like this? guess i should have been a sportswriter...

As much as it pains me to say this ... you are too intelligent to be a Madden like sportswriter :wink:

BradshawsHairdresser
06-18-2010, 08:27 PM
The Steelers need White? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: LOL!

The Steelers need White like I need hemmorhoids.

hawaiiansteel
06-18-2010, 09:00 PM
"I smoked marijuana; that is all I have ever done. That's all I do, that's it. I smoke. I don't care about any other drugs, but it's marijuana. . . .

Doesn't sound like he learned his lesson to me. Sounds like he's still justifying his doobage. Considering that Santonio has done considerable things in this league (including SBXLIII MVP) and we dumped him for that, there is no way that we would bring in an underachieving pothead in the same offseason. Such a suggestion is just sheer stupidity.


I completely agree, Mark Madden actually gets paid to write crap like this? guess i should have been a sportswriter...

As much as it pains me to say this ... you are too intelligent to be a Madden like sportswriter :wink:


I found a pic of Mark Madden when he was younger and also a more recent one...

http://loverev.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/kid-dunce-hat.jpghttp://yankeeschick.mlblogs.com/chuck-carlton-businessman-sitting-in-corner-with-dunce-hat.jpg

Notleadpoisoned
07-02-2010, 10:11 AM
With hindsight being 20/20.......

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... s-thomas/1 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/07/nfl-announces-suspensions-of-lendale-white-and-hollis-thomas/1)

Oviedo
07-02-2010, 10:16 AM
With hindsight being 20/20.......

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... s-thomas/1 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/07/nfl-announces-suspensions-of-lendale-white-and-hollis-thomas/1)

Just further proof what an idiot Madden is with his lame "shock jock" style of trying to invent news/controversy. Guy has no clue when it comes to football.

Jooser
07-02-2010, 10:31 AM
Mark Madden and Mike Florio were attached at the hip at birth. Madden needs to lay off the ganj more than White does. What a baffoon! :wft