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hawaiiansteel
06-03-2010, 06:38 PM
Willie Parker off to slow start with Redskins
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on June 2, 2010
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The Redskins want Brian Westbrook, which makes us wonder what running back on the roster they don't want.
Clinton Portis is the starter going into training camp and the Redskins guaranteed almost all of his 2010 salary. He's unlikely to go anywhere. That leaves Larry Johnson and Willie Parker. Based on a few admittedly way-too-early reviews, Parker may be in more trouble.
"To a few observers at minicamp it looked like Willie Parker did not have much burst in his game," Rich Tandler of Comcast Sports Net Washington observed.
We think Parker faces the longest odds of the three veterans to make the team because he's not a natural fit on passing downs or in short yardage situations. Without that burst, he could slip straight out of the league.
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D Rock
06-03-2010, 08:20 PM
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SteelerNation1
06-03-2010, 08:30 PM
"To a few observers at minicamp it looked like Willie Parker did not have much burst in his game," Rich Tandler of Comcast Sports Net Washington observed.
Dang. ANy Steeler fan could tell you FWP hasn't really been the same since late 07 when he broke his leg in STL.
RuthlessBurgher
06-03-2010, 10:04 PM
"To a few observers at minicamp it looked like Willie Parker did not have much burst in his game," Rich Tandler of Comcast Sports Net Washington observed.
Dang. ANy Steeler fan could tell you FWP hasn't really been the same since late 07 when he broke his leg in STL.
Speaking of the Rams, Parker may end up in St. Louis as a backup to Steven Jackson after the Redskins cut him (unless the Rams trade for someone like Marshawn Lynch in the mean time).
fezziwig
06-03-2010, 11:31 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Willie wearing the black and gold once again at a decent price. He is not as bad as everyone thinks or says and yes, he isn't what he used to be but he does play hard and gives it his all.
I remember when Wiile first came on to the scene, very happy with his Steeler Titan game but after that, I didn't think he was very good or as good as his stats reflected. Since then I do see a guy giving it his all and if we are weak at runningback, why not Willie.
williar
06-04-2010, 12:09 PM
Not surprised. I thought that Parker was average on his best days. Unfortunately, he seems to have lost his biggest asset, his breakaway speed. I'm glad he's someone elses problem now.
flippy
06-04-2010, 12:28 PM
I kinda wish he woulda signed with us for a low # and gave Mendy an ocassional breather. But I can't see there being any room for him now with Redman, Dwyer, and hopefully Logan getting a shot at RB.
I thought FWP looked pretty good at the end of last year. He'll end up somewhere. Teams always need an extra RB.
SteelerEmpire
06-04-2010, 12:30 PM
I'm not surprised to hear this one...
aggiebones
06-04-2010, 12:47 PM
I'm here in DC and here's my take though most don't agree.
I think Bruce Allen wants to get rid of the past leadership here, which STINKS to high heaven.
That means guys like Portis and SMoss among others are being shown the door. They 'may' keep them another year if they see a need, but they are changing this over completely in my mind and they should.
THUS, Portis is the starter in OTAs while they bring along LJ, Parker and Westbrook. After this season, they'll dump another one and draft someone. But RBs are a dime a dozen and a last piece to place, so they gathered some cheap veterans that need a new home. They'd love to trade Portis and Shanny already has once. If they could trade him for Champ Bailey again, they will :)
So I truly think Parker will still remain, but don't quote me on Redskins brain trust thought.
Oviedo
06-04-2010, 01:08 PM
Again the Front Office and Staff know best and get this one right like they do 90+% of the time regardless of what internet experts like to think.
I've said for 3+ years. RBs are good for 5 years as a starter then they are past their sell by dates. Very few contribute beyond that.
As John Clayton posted on ESPN
At some point, teams need to be sensitized to the short shelf life of an NFL running back. Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson tells youngsters that a running back starts to decline after 1,600 carries or after six years of pounding.
I'll always be grateful to Fast Willie for some great runs he gave us. I think my 2 fav's are the record breaking SB XL run and the 80 yarder or so against the clowns on Xmas eve earlier in that '05 season.
That run against the clowns felt like we had a homerun threat that NO defense could catch. What a great time for it too. Hey clowns fans you got 41-0 for XMAS. LOL
But like others have said, his time has pased with us, unfortunately.
aggiebones
06-04-2010, 02:46 PM
Again the Front Office and Staff know best and get this one right like they do 90+% of the time regardless of what internet experts like to think.
I've said for 3+ years. RBs are good for 5 years as a starter then they are past their sell by dates. Very few contribute beyond that.
As John Clayton posted on ESPN
At some point, teams need to be sensitized to the short shelf life of an NFL running back. Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson tells youngsters that a running back starts to decline after 1,600 carries or after six years of pounding.
What are you erroneously pumping up your chest about now? Were there any people claiming we should keep Willie? Do people refute that RBs in general have a short shelf life? The whole roster has a short shelf life quite frankly. There are some that defy it, but not many on a grand scale.
And you are one of the most vocal internet 'experts' on here. lol
Yes, someone pissed in my cherrios today. But its my birthday tomorrow, so that's good for something. Not sure what however.
RuthlessBurgher
06-04-2010, 03:16 PM
Again the Front Office and Staff know best and get this one right like they do 90+% of the time regardless of what internet experts like to think.
I've said for 3+ years. RBs are good for 5 years as a starter then they are past their sell by dates. Very few contribute beyond that.
As John Clayton posted on ESPN
At some point, teams need to be sensitized to the short shelf life of an NFL running back. Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson tells youngsters that a running back starts to decline after 1,600 carries or after six years of pounding.
What are you erroneously pumping up your chest about now? Were there any people claiming we should keep Willie? Do people refute that RBs in general have a short shelf life? The whole roster has a short shelf life quite frankly. There are some that defy it, but not many on a grand scale.
And you are one of the most vocal internet 'experts' on here. lol
Yes, someone pissed in my cherrios today. But its my birthday tomorrow, so that's good for something. Not sure what however.
It's my birthday tomorrow as well. Small world, eh?
My Cherrios were piss-free this morning, though. :mrgreen:
hawaiiansteel
06-04-2010, 03:36 PM
It's my birthday tomorrow as well. Small world, eh?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY tomorrow! :Boobs :tt2 :Cheers
aggiebones
06-04-2010, 04:21 PM
Hmm, there are 866 users on here. I wonder if we have one more June 5th guy?
Happy Birthday today to the two or three June 4th BDay folks.
LordVile
06-04-2010, 04:51 PM
Hmm, there are 866 users on here. I wonder if we have one more June 5th guy?
Happy Birthday today to the two or three June 4th BDay folks.
Happy B-day to the steeler bretheren... :Cheers
hawaiiansteel
06-04-2010, 04:54 PM
Hmm, there are 866 users on here. I wonder if we have one more June 5th guy?
Happy Birthday today to the two or three June 4th BDay folks.
Happy B-day to the steeler bretheren... :Cheers
aloha LordVile, that is a very sexxxy Steeler fan in your pic! :Cheers
Hmm, there are 866 users on here. I wonder if we have one more June 5th guy?
Happy Birthday today to the two or three June 4th BDay folks.
Happy B-day to the steeler bretheren... :Cheers
Hot damn !! My B-day is July 6th. Can i get one of those ???
:Cheers
smokin3000gt
06-04-2010, 05:26 PM
I wonder if FWP was smart with the money he made or if he had the piss it all away mentality..
LordVile
06-04-2010, 05:29 PM
Hmm, there are 866 users on here. I wonder if we have one more June 5th guy?
Happy Birthday today to the two or three June 4th BDay folks.
Happy B-day to the steeler bretheren... :Cheers
Hot damn !! My B-day is July 6th. Can i get one of those ???
:Cheers
CHEERS MATE! :Beer :Boobs :Cheers
LordVile
06-04-2010, 05:31 PM
Hmm, there are 866 users on here. I wonder if we have one more June 5th guy?
Happy Birthday today to the two or three June 4th BDay folks.
Happy B-day to the steeler bretheren... :Cheers
aloha LordVile, that is a very sexxxy Steeler fan in your pic! :Cheers
I'll tell my girlfriend you said so. :mrgreen:
jj28west
06-04-2010, 08:25 PM
Again the Front Office and Staff know best and get this one right like they do 90+% of the time regardless of what internet experts like to think.
I've said for 3+ years. RBs are good for 5 years as a starter then they are past their sell by dates. Very few contribute beyond that.
As John Clayton posted on ESPN
At some point, teams need to be sensitized to the short shelf life of an NFL running back. Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson tells youngsters that a running back starts to decline after 1,600 carries or after six years of pounding.
I cant disagree with this but I see the life measured in years of service increasing with the diminishing bell cow role the NFL RB used to have. Dont get me wrong you still have a main feature back but generally speaking you have a #2 guy that is prepared to take on the #1 role during injury or 30%-40% of the touches during the game. Also, there is the specialist that comes in on third downs, etc.
A bruiser physical back like Bettis, John Riggins, Sweetness or Earl Cambell are so rare with respect to the years of service.
I forget who used to complement Bam Morris (Pegram maybe?) but I remember Bam coming in the end of games and running effectively against tired defenses. FWP with Bettis was another tandom.
Under Tomlin it looked like he would play them by the quarter and then go with the hot hand.
I like this approach. The guys are generally fresher per game and season. There will be games and instances where you will just feed Mendy the ball as he may get into a rythm with more carries.
IMO I believe this would have extended the effectiveness of Edgerrin James (sp) , Rudi Johnson, Marion Barber, the list goes on...
fezziwig
06-07-2010, 04:20 PM
Hmm, there are 866 users on here. I wonder if we have one more June 5th guy?
Happy Birthday today to the two or three June 4th BDay folks.
Happy B-day to the steeler bretheren... :Cheers
Wow , she's a looker
Prowler
06-08-2010, 05:43 PM
I am not the least bit surprised by the fact that Fumblelina Parker is off to a slow start with the Redskins. After all we our talking about the worst starting RB in the NFL from the last 3 seasons.
The only things you get from Willie these days are declining stats, injuries, falling down before contact and Lendale White like speed. Simply put, an awful player!!
I love the dynamics here. Thread started honestly enough about an ex-Steeler whom some wish well, others eh not so much.
Then the beautiful vixen get's introduced and throws eveyone for a wonderful loop.
Now back to some innocent enough opinions on the ex-Steeler but you can damn well bet i'm rubber-necking the vixen still. :lol:
flippy
06-08-2010, 07:39 PM
Happy Belated BDay. Here's one for each of you.
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stlrz d
06-08-2010, 09:19 PM
I am not the least bit surprised by the fact that Fumblelina Parker is off to a slow start with the Redskins. After all we our talking about the worst starting RB in the NFL from the last 3 seasons.
The only things you get from Willie these days are declining stats, injuries, falling down before contact and Lendale White like speed. Simply put, an awful player!!
I'm sure he'd echo similar sentiments about you as a poster. ;)
hawaiiansteel
06-24-2010, 05:11 PM
there's a good possibility that Willie Parker won't even make the Redskins 53 man roster...
Redskins' 53-Man Roster, Version 1.0
Monday, June 21, 2010, 1:07 p.m.
By Ryan O’Halloran
Staff writer
CSNwashington.com
It's never too early to guess the 53-man roster.
QUARTERBACKS (3)
Donovan McNabb, Rex Grossman and Richard Bartel.
Analysis: One of the top competitions in training camp will be for No. 3 quarterback. Colt Brennan missed all of last year following hip surgery, and Bartel arrived from Jacksonville’s practice squad late in the season. Bartel gets the edge because he appears to have a stronger arm.
RUNNING BACKS (4)
Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson, Mike Sellers and Ryan Torain.
Analysis: Yes, Brian Westbrook and Willie Parker aren’t on the list. I didn’t consider Westbrook because he’s not here yet (and may not be here at all), and the Redskins should wait for the preseason to play out to see if a team panics and trades a draft pick for Parker. Another great sub-plot of camp is how the Redskins divide the reps and playing time between Portis, Johnson and possibly Parker.
TIGHT ENDS (3)
Chris Cooley, Fred Davis and Dennis Morris.
Analysis: Cooley and Davis are locks, and look for a lot of formations where both are on the field together and not necessarily at tight end. Kyle Shanahan is going to have fun exploiting matchups. Morris is a draft pick, and he must be doing something right because veteran Sean Ryan – signed in free agency – didn’t make it to the mandatory minicamp.
RECEIVERS (6)
Santana Moss, Devin Thomas, Joey Galloway, Bobby Wade, Mike Furrey and Terrence Austin.
Analysis: What’s the fun without throwing a couple curveballs, which is why Malcolm Kelly isn’t included. He doesn’t play special teams – that’s why Wade, Furrey and Austin all make the team. Guessing this position is a crapshoot – Thomas is the No. 2 receiver behind Moss by default, and Galloway needs to show he can make it through camp. On his last Denver team, Mike Shanahan carried only five receivers (four active on Sundays), but Austin makes it as the sixth player if he has a good camp returning kicks.
OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (9)
Casey Rabach, Derrick Dockery, Trent Williams, Artis Hicks, Jammal Brown, Mike Williams, Edwin Williams, Chad Rinehart and Selvish Capers.
Analysis: The starting group is set with Rabach, Dockery, Hicks, Brown and Trent Williams. There will be beaucoup competition for the remaining four spots. Will Montgomery and Edwin Williams are likely vying for one spot. Mike Williams makes it because he can play guard and tackle. Stephon Heyer may be going from 2009 starter to 2010 training camp cut, and Rinehart better have a good camp, too.
DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (6)
Phillip Daniels, Maake Kemoeatu, Kedric Golston, Adam Carriker, Vonnie Holliday and Howard Green.
Analysis: The prediction that Albert Haynesworth won’t be here is a pretty easy one, leaving Daniels/Carriker and Golston/Holliday to play the defensive end position on first- and second-down snaps. Kemoeatu (Achilles’) has to show he’s healthy enough to start at nose tackle. The Redskins take only six linemen because of players like Brian Orakpo and Andre Carter playing end when Jim Haslett shifts to a 4-3 or wants to get a solid pass rush on third down.
LINEBACKERS (10)
London Fletcher, Rocky McIntosh, Brian Orakpo, Andre Carter, Lorenzo Alexander, Jeremy Jarmon, Chris Wilson, Chris Draft, Perry Riley and H.B. Blades.
Analysis: Carter, Alexander and Jarmon move from the defensive line, so their transition will be interesting to monitor. Riley makes the team because he plays special teams; the same goes for Blades. The story at this position is how Haslett uses the players.
CORNERBACKS (5)
Carlos Rogers, DeAngelo Hall, Phillip Buchanon, Justin Tryon and Kevin Barnes.
Analysis: Haslett is extremely high on Rogers, who will report to training camp even though his restricted free agent tender remains unsigned. Hall will start opposite Rogers. Buchanon brings experience and could return punts. Tryon has developed since a tough rookie preseason, and Barnes returns after basically a redshirt rookie year.
SAFETIES (4)
LaRon Landry, Kareem Moore, Reed Doughty and Chris Horton.
Analysis: Landry was slowed by a toe injury this summer and also didn’t participate in some of the workouts. It’s expected the Redskins will try to find ways to get Landry, Moore and Doughty on the field at the same time. Horton makes the team, but could end up being the odd man out in terms of the rotation.
SPECIALISTS (3)
Graham Gano, Josh Bidwell and Nick Sundburg.
Analysis: The trio has no competition as of Monday, so as long as they don’t choke during the preseason games, they’ll stick. None of them were here at the start of last year.
feltdizz
06-24-2010, 06:26 PM
I wouldn't count WP out... just the other day the radio heads were gushing over the Redskins off season moves and their added weapons and named Willie as a nice pick up.
He definitely isn't going to shake anyone but if the Redskins get a hat on all the guys up front we will still see Willie get up field quick. It's crazy how our OL is soooo bad but we expected Willie to keep busting off 40 yarders. He was never a complete RB... but if the OL blocks he can still move the chains.
fordfixer
06-24-2010, 10:38 PM
Wow :shock:
fezziwig
06-25-2010, 05:45 PM
I wouldn't count WP out... just the other day the radio heads were gushing over the Redskins off season moves and their added weapons and named Willie as a nice pick up.
He definitely isn't going to shake anyone but if the Redskins get a hat on all the guys up front we will still see Willie get up field quick. It's crazy how our OL is soooo bad but we expected Willie to keep busting off 40 yarders. He was never a complete RB... but if the OL blocks he can still move the chains.
Great thought. Last year or the year before I said the same thing. One day Willie will be gone and if he gets an offensive line that can set him free, look out ! Fans will cry, " why didn't he perform like that for us ? " Willie is a victim of Arians and a not so good o-line.
Maybe his age and injury will hamper what he once was or could have been but, Willie needs a fullback that can get him his second step and an o-line that can get him his first step. How many times have we seen Willie hit a defensive wall a split second after he was handed the ball ? I wish Willie well. I will be honest, I never cared for Willies style of game but you can not deny the guy that he didn't have a good o-line a nd that he didn't give it 110%.
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