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SteelCrazy
05-28-2010, 01:40 PM
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The off-field problems involving multiple members of the Pittsburgh Steelers created the impression that a double standard applies in the city of Three Rivers. Lower-level players get the boot, and those deemed indispensable get a pass.


It happened most notably in 2008, when linebacker James Harrison and receiver Cedrick Wilson were accused of domestic violence in the same general time frame. Harrison remains a key fixture on the team; Wilson was dumped not long after his arrest.

The Steelers have been vague regarding whether their sliding scale has yielded to a one-strike arrangement in the wake of the unfortunate situations involving quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and former receiver Santonio Holmes. The problem with zero tolerance is that it must be enforced and, eventually, a great player will be cut.

And some other team would then pounce on him.

The Steelers aren't the only franchise that treats different players differently. They all do it, to a certain extent. Former Cowboys coach Jimmy Johnson made no bones about it. In Boys Will Be Boys, Jeff Pearlman chronicles Johnson's inconsistencies, explaining that some players "would be treated with greater dignity than others -- and if you didn't like it, you could find another line of work." Pearlman writes that, when first-round cornerback Kevin Smith and street free agent Michael James snuck out of camp, Smith got lectured and James got cut.

.More recently, the San Diego Chargers have provided a glaring example of applying different rules for different players with receiver Vincent Jackson and safety Kevin Ellison. Jackson, who has twice pleaded guilty to DUI charges, will be going nowhere else, sober or otherwise. Ellison, who has been arrested for possession of 100 Vicodin pills, has been told to stay away from offseason workouts, a precursor to his likely release.

Though the substance abuse policy insulates Jackson against discipline from the team, that same policy protects Ellison, too. And the Chargers don't seem to care.

In other cities, there are no recent dichotomies like Kevin Smith and Michael James, James Harrison and Cedrick Wilson, Vincent Jackson and Kevin Ellison. But what would the Texans be doing about linebacker Brian Cushing's suspension for violating the steroids policy if he weren't part of the nucleus of the team's defense? In 2008, long snapper Bryan Pittman missed the final four games after breaking the same rules. And he wasn't re-signed. (The Texans eventually brought him back late in the 2009 season, perhaps realizing that the position isn't as fungible as it looks.)

In Washington, receiver Santana Moss has been entangled in the Dr. Anthony Galea HGH investigation. If Moss weren't regarded as an important member of an otherwise so-so receiving corps, the Redskins might be doing something far different than accepting his version of the events and vowing to stand by him.

And in Miami, where V.P. of football operations Bill Parcells has said he wants no "thugs and hoodlums," plenty of guys are acting like "thugs and hoodlums," including Ronnie Brown, Will Allen, Phillip Merling and Tony McDaniel. To date, the Dolphins have been consistent in their treatment of the misbehaving players -- none of them has been disciplined.


In Seattle, a big-name player's big-money salary is having the opposite effect. Linebacker Leroy Hill, who was arrested for domestic violence only days after being placed on probation for marijuana possession, has been told to stay home in lieu of showing up for offseason practices.

In Hill's case, his contract is hurting him more than a perceived lack of skill. He's due to receive a guaranteed base salary of $6 million in 2010, and if the league suspends him the guarantee voids if they cut him.

Every team at every level of every sport looks at these situations on a case-by-case basis. And it's not because they want to be fair and consistent with every employee; it's because they understand that it's important to know when and where and how to be inconsistent.

Mike Florio writes and edits ProFootballTalk.com and is a regular contributor to Sporting News. Check out PFT for up-to-the minute NFL news.


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flippy
05-28-2010, 01:50 PM
I wish we'd just be more honest about it and say it's about money rather than pretending to have a different standard for the way we run our team.

If we didn't have Mike Wallace, I don't think Santonio would have been gone. And if Tone would have waited a year until he had a big contract, he'd have stayed.

cruzer8
05-28-2010, 02:20 PM
I wish we'd just be more honest about it and say it's about money rather than pretending to have a different standard for the way we run our team.

If we didn't have Mike Wallace, I don't think Santonio would have been gone. And if Tone would have waited a year until he had a big contract, he'd have stayed.

Blame Steelers fans for that.

ANPSTEEL
05-28-2010, 02:30 PM
I wish we'd just be more honest about it and say it's about money rather than pretending to have a different standard for the way we run our team.

If we didn't have Mike Wallace, I don't think Santonio would have been gone. And if Tone would have waited a year until he had a big contract, he'd have stayed.

the double standard is alive and well all across the nfl.

In respect to Holmes, I can't help but think that his tweetering (or whatever its called) is ultimately what did him in. I suspect he might have been able to overcome the second substance abuse charge, if he showed real commitment to getting help-

but that ship sailed once he tossed out the "time to wake and bake" into the public arena.

what a dumbazz.

IMO, the clearest sign of double standards, within the Steelers organization would be the "immediate" action they took against Cedrick Wilson, and then the preposterous position they took in defending James Harrison- by way of religious baptism beliefs.

cruzer8
05-28-2010, 02:43 PM
I wish we'd just be more honest about it and say it's about money rather than pretending to have a different standard for the way we run our team.

If we didn't have Mike Wallace, I don't think Santonio would have been gone. And if Tone would have waited a year until he had a big contract, he'd have stayed.

the double standard is alive and well all across the nfl.

In respect to Holmes, I can't help but think that his tweetering (or whatever its called) is ultimately what did him in. I suspect he might have been able to overcome the second substance abuse charge, if he showed real commitment to getting help-

but that ship sailed once he tossed out the "time to wake and bake" into the public arena.

what a dumbazz.

IMO, the clearest sign of double standards, within the Steelers organization would be the "immediate" action they took against Cedrick Wilson, and then the preposterous position they took in defending James Harrison- by way of religious baptism beliefs.

Wilson was a multiple offender and Harrison was not.

All Dan Rooney was trying to say is that he could understand someone being upset in Harrison's situation. He didn't defend his actions.

proudpittsburgher
05-28-2010, 02:46 PM
I wish we'd just be more honest about it and say it's about money rather than pretending to have a different standard for the way we run our team.

If we didn't have Mike Wallace, I don't think Santonio would have been gone. And if Tone would have waited a year until he had a big contract, he'd have stayed.

the double standard is alive and well all across the nfl.

In respect to Holmes, I can't help but think that his tweetering (or whatever its called) is ultimately what did him in. I suspect he might have been able to overcome the second substance abuse charge, if he showed real commitment to getting help-

but that ship sailed once he tossed out the "time to wake and bake" into the public arena.

what a dumbazz.
IMO, the clearest sign of double standards, within the Steelers organization would be the "immediate" action they took against Cedrick Wilson, and then the preposterous position they took in defending James Harrison- by way of religious baptism beliefs.


:Agree This, but people like Florio won't look into anything, they just look on the surface and treat everything as an apples to apples comparison.

HeHateMe
05-28-2010, 03:14 PM
None of those guys have been sccused of RAPE twice within a year. None of the guys have embarrased their franchises to the degree of the BIG DISTRACTION.

tomco09
05-28-2010, 03:28 PM
Multiple arrests do not equal to multiple accusations. Problems in past history vs problems speculated. Guys that are gone are gone because of PROVEN HISTORY VIOLATION and yes money is a key part but, not the only deciding factor.

HeHateMe
05-28-2010, 03:30 PM
HOW many OTHER Steelers have MULTIPLE allegations? WHY is it ONLY Ben? WHY is he singled out? Do tell? Probably because HE IS GUILTY. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH

HeHateMe
05-28-2010, 03:38 PM
Still NO Civil suit filed by this woman in Georgia. HMMMMMM. Find that odd? She went to the cops gung ho for justice. Then the tape is erased, the crime area cleaned, the accuser doesnt want to go through with the charges all of a sudden. HMMMMM Nobody thinks this smells of a payoff? Whats the HOMER position?
All I ever heard when Mcnulty sued Ben was "She's a liar! If she was telling the truth WHY didnt she go to the cops immediately? Why did she wait a year. IF he really raped her she would have went to the cops right away. She is suing him Civily, she just wants money"

The woman in Georgia does EXACTLY what you all wanted Mcnulty to do. She went to the cops RIGHT AWAY, went to the hospital but to you all she is STILL a liar. NO civil suit, no signs of being money hungry but she is STILL a liar. Ben is drunk, getting all sorts of women drunk, walking around with his BLANK hanging out, locked in a bathroom with a woman, with the door guarded by his security and you guys DON'T think that Ben assaulted this woman. LOL

You guys could have footage of the whole act and then you would all make excuses of how she led him on. "Look at that right there..... look how her hand grazed his penis. SHE WANTED IT!!"

WOW

SteelCrazy
05-28-2010, 06:05 PM
Still NO Civil suit filed by this woman in Georgia. HMMMMMM. Find that odd? She went to the cops gung ho for justice. Then the tape is erased, the crime area cleaned, the accuser doesnt want to go through with the charges all of a sudden. HMMMMM Nobody thinks this smells of a payoff? Whats the HOMER position?
All I ever heard when Mcnulty sued Ben was "She's a liar! If she was telling the truth WHY didnt she go to the cops immediately? Why did she wait a year. IF he really raped her she would have went to the cops right away. She is suing him Civily, she just wants money"

The woman in Georgia does EXACTLY what you all wanted Mcnulty to do. She went to the cops RIGHT AWAY, went to the hospital but to you all she is STILL a liar. NO civil suit, no signs of being money hungry but she is STILL a liar. Ben is drunk, getting all sorts of women drunk, walking around with his BLANK hanging out, locked in a bathroom with a woman, with the door guarded by his security and you guys DON'T think that Ben assaulted this woman. LOL

You guys could have footage of the whole act and then you would all make excuses of how she led him on. "Look at that right there..... look how her hand grazed his penis. SHE WANTED IT!!"

WOW


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