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Steelgal
05-26-2010, 09:26 AM
Here is the 6th Steeler's report.


Dale Lolley of the Washington Observer-Reporter steps in today to give his thoughts and make some notes on the Steelers' workouts. Here's the sixth installment:

As the Pittsburgh Steelers opened their third week of optional coaching sessions, they had a little surprise on the field.
No, that wasn’t a second Casey Hampton out there calling the defenses, it was defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau wearing a Hampton game jersey as he worked with his unit. He has worn different jerseys the last three workouts.

LeBeau was wearing the Hampton home jersey as a tribute to his star nose tackle. It was a meaningful gesture, particularly since the tight black jersey could not have been all that cool on a hot, muggy morning.

As he walked off the field, Hampton was asked if it was a smaller jersey than the one he wears.

“No man, that’s my regular game jersey. Why do you think I look so fat?” Hampton quipped.

At quarterback, the snaps were split evenly between Byron Leftwich and Dennis Dixon working with the first unit. Charlie Batch handled a lot of the scout team offense, with Leftwich and Dixon getting a random snap here and there with those units.

Ben Roethlisberger remains a no-show as he awaits clearance from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to return to practice.

Limas Sweed was in attendance at the practice wearing a protective boot on his surgically repaired Achilles tendon. Sweed looks to be in good spirits despite the season-ending injury and is confident he’ll be able to return in 2011.

The defense was without three starters – James Harrison, Aaron Smith and Troy Polamalu.

Andre Frazier worked in place of Harrison, with rookie Jason Worilds moving up to the second unit behind him.

Second-year stud Ziggy Hood stepped in for Smith, while free agent acquisition Will Allen continues to fill in for Polamalu, who is working out in California.

Second-year offensive lineman Kraig Urbik continues to get some work at center. He again lined up there with the second-team offensive line at center - though he did draw some ire for a bad snap that scooted through Leftwich’s legs with the quarterback under center. The ball never got up to Leftwich’s hands.

If Urbik is going to be active on game days - and beat out Doug Legursky for a roster spot - he’s going to have to show he’s capable of playing more than guard.

Legursky, by the way, continued to play center with the first team.

Rookie Maurkice Pouncey, the team’s top draft pick this year, continued to work with the third unit at center. Pouncey also played second-team guard, where the team projects him playing this season.

Rookie cornerback Crezdon Butler drew some praise from secondary coach Ray Horton after getting a great jump on a sideline pass from Dixon and breaking it up. Butler had such a great jump on the ball, you’d like to see him pick that pass off - especially since he got both hands on the ball - but perhaps the Steelers just can’t find a corner who can catch.

The rookie who impressed Tuesday was running back Jonathan Dwyer. That’s not all that surprising, however, since running back is perhaps the easiest position to pick up when making the transition from college to the NFL.

But Dwyer, a sixth-round draft pick, looks quick and is a very decisive inside runner. He doesn’t look like he’s got the same pop to the outside, but he hits the hole to the inside very quickly.

The team finished up its practice today with some special teams work, with Piotr Czech handling all of the kickoffs. The Steelers often use a machine to practice its kickoffs, but they have been using both Czech and punter Daniel Sepulveda in that role a lot this spring.

Stefan Logan, Jason Chery and rookies Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders - in that order - handled the returns.

flippy
05-26-2010, 09:35 AM
Interesting that Sepulveda is kicking off. I wonder if switching between a right footed and left footed kicker offer during a game could create any confusion?

I've also wondered if a left footed onside kicker would make it any easier to recover an onside kick?

While on this topic, I've also wondered why a kicker doesn't try to onside kick a ball 15 yards and put as much hangtime on the ball as he can? And then you send your tallest player to try to get the jump ball.

JTP53609
05-26-2010, 09:43 AM
Interesting that Sepulveda is kicking off. I wonder if switching between a right footed and left footed kicker offer during a game could create any confusion?

I've also wondered if a left footed onside kicker would make it any easier to recover an onside kick?

While on this topic, I've also wondered why a kicker doesn't try to onside kick a ball 15 yards and put as much hangtime on the ball as he can? And then you send your tallest player to try to get the jump ball.

I have wondered the same thing about the 15 yard onside kick, i think the bounce gives enough hang time and the most hang time for that short of a distance, it would be very hard to kick only 15 yards and get alot of air under it....I would think at least..

Oviedo
05-26-2010, 09:44 AM
I think all this OTA stuff is just experimentation to get insights going into training camp. Anyone trying to draw conclusions is wasting their time.

At least 10 of the players at OTAs won't be going to camp because as soon as the draftees start to sign then they have to cut one player every time a draftee signs to get down to the limit of 80 players before camp starts.

cruzer8
05-26-2010, 09:52 AM
Interesting that Sepulveda is kicking off. I wonder if switching between a right footed and left footed kicker offer during a game could create any confusion?

I've also wondered if a left footed onside kicker would make it any easier to recover an onside kick?

While on this topic, I've also wondered why a kicker doesn't try to onside kick a ball 15 yards and put as much hangtime on the ball as he can? And then you send your tallest player to try to get the jump ball.

I have wondered the same thing about the 15 yard onside kick, i think the bounce gives enough hang time and the most hang time for that short of a distance, it would be very hard to kick only 15 yards and get alot of air under it....I would think at least..

Can they fit his shoe with a 64 degree lob wedge? :lol:

Gus
05-26-2010, 10:16 AM
Interesting that Sepulveda is kicking off. I wonder if switching between a right footed and left footed kicker offer during a game could create any confusion?

I've also wondered if a left footed onside kicker would make it any easier to recover an onside kick?

While on this topic, I've also wondered why a kicker doesn't try to onside kick a ball 15 yards and put as much hangtime on the ball as he can? And then you send your tallest player to try to get the jump ball.


The hangtime thing is not done because a player from the receiving team can call for a fair catch. That is why kickers kick into the ground.

ramblinjim
05-26-2010, 10:28 AM
can you fair catch a kick off?

papillon
05-26-2010, 10:41 AM
can you fair catch a kick off?

Yup, you can fair catch an onside kick. Gus was right on with why onside kicks are driven into the ground first.

Pappy

flippy
05-26-2010, 11:28 AM
I've never even considered the onside fair catch. Good call. Wonder if a player would think of doing it if you surprised them?

Mister Pittsburgh
05-26-2010, 12:29 PM
Is the fair catching a kickoff what is referred to as a 'free kick'....and the team receiving the ball could fair catch it and attempt a field goal from the spot of the fair catch? Or is that when a team gets a safety they can fair catch the ensuing kick and try a free kick...I forget.

Mister Pittsburgh
05-26-2010, 12:38 PM
Here we go...little google search....also, another interesting tidbit.....

Question: After a safety, the kicking team has the option to punt or kick the ball. Why can't the kicking team do an on-side punt, recovering the ball after it travels 10 yards?

Answer: NCAA & NFHS: Any free kick, including a punt following a safety, may be recovered by the kicking team after it has traveled 10 yds or been touched by a receiver.

Question: My uncle claims that if the receiving team of a free kick signals for a fair catch, they can choose to kick a field goal on the very next down and be unopposed - i.e., the defense cannot try to block the kick. I looked through the NCAA rulebook and didn't see this. Is there any situation where the offense is allowed to kick a field goal without opposition in either college or high school football?

Answer: Free kicks following a fair catch are allowed under NFHS & NFL rules, but not NCAA.

Following the legal FAIR CATCH of any kick, the receiving team may choose to run a regular scrimmge play OR they may free kick the ball from the the yardline where the catch was made. Simply stated, a free kick following a fair catch is a kickoff with a chance for 3 pts. For the most part all the rules are the same as for a kickoff (i.e., teams 10yds apart etc.). This is obviously a very rare play and is usually only used at the very end of the first half or the end of the game.

Also, a kicking tee may be used in NFHS games but not in the NFL. There are some other differences, but those are the basics.

Shawn
05-26-2010, 11:20 PM
I like what I am hearing about Dwyer.

fordfixer
05-26-2010, 11:31 PM
Thanks for posting :tt1

hawaiiansteel
05-26-2010, 11:52 PM
Interesting that Sepulveda is kicking off. I wonder if switching between a right footed and left footed kicker offer during a game could create any confusion?

I've also wondered if a left footed onside kicker would make it any easier to recover an onside kick?

While on this topic, I've also wondered why a kicker doesn't try to onside kick a ball 15 yards and put as much hangtime on the ball as he can? And then you send your tallest player to try to get the jump ball.

I have wondered the same thing about the 15 yard onside kick, i think the bounce gives enough hang time and the most hang time for that short of a distance, it would be very hard to kick only 15 yards and get alot of air under it....I would think at least..

Can they fit his shoe with a 64 degree lob wedge? :lol:


hopefully it work better than my 60 degree lob wedge... :lol:

steelblood
05-27-2010, 07:37 AM
I bet he meant to say punter adam graselle on kickoffs (as he is a kickoff specialist) and has worked there this off season.

DukieBoy
05-27-2010, 02:56 PM
can you fair catch a kick off?

Matt Spaeth holds the team record for fair caught kick-offs.