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costanza2k1
04-30-2010, 12:38 PM
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"Disruptive" Santonio Holmes booted from a flight in Pittsburgh

Posted by Mike Florio on April 30, 2010 12:04 PM ET
Well, so much for Santonio Holmes' new leaf.

Less than three weeks after being traded from Pittsburgh in the wake of a four-game suspension for violating the league's substance-abuse policy, Holmes has been escorted off a plane for being a "disruptive passenger." NBC affiliate WPXI reports that the incident occurred on Thursday night, shortly after 9:00 p.m.

We know there are two sides to every story, but Holmes needs to find the line of what may get him in trouble and stay as far away from it as possible. Otherwise, that four-game suspension is eventually going to be extended by 12, or more.

eniparadoxgma
04-30-2010, 12:49 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jigawatts
04-30-2010, 01:34 PM
Was it because...

A) Holmes tried to impregnate a passenger while joining the mile high club.
B) Holmes wanted to get higher than 35,000 feet. (insert another mile high club joke)
C) Holmes was taking pictures of his private area after the captain requested that
passengers turn off all electronic devises.
D) All of the above.

Iron Shiek
04-30-2010, 01:37 PM
Was it because...

A) Holmes tried to impregnate a passenger while joining the mile high club.
B) Holmes wanted to get higher than 35,000 feet. (insert another mile high club joke)
C) Holmes was taking pictures of his private area after the captain requested that
passengers turn off all electronic devises.
D) All of the above.

Or throwing cocktail glass at flight attendant.

anger 82&95
04-30-2010, 01:40 PM
Perhaps he flexed after catching a sack of in-flight pretzels.

Jigawatts
04-30-2010, 01:52 PM
Or throwing cocktail glass at flight attendant.

:lol:



Perhaps he flexed after catching a sack of in-flight pretzels.

:lol: "That's how you be great."

phillyesq
04-30-2010, 01:55 PM
That's a shame.

He has always been such a class act. I can't imagine how something like this happened to him. :roll:

RuthlessBurgher
04-30-2010, 02:02 PM
Santonio escorted off a Jet.

How long until he gets escorted off the Jets?

Jom112
04-30-2010, 02:03 PM
Suspend him for 6 games... :stirpot

costanza2k1
04-30-2010, 02:09 PM
Suspend him for 6 games... :stirpot


Correction any trouble he gets into now is one year....5th round pick for him seems about right.

flippy
04-30-2010, 02:50 PM
How bout suspending him for advertising 420 on his website Goodell?

Or suspending him for getting kicked off a flight and ruining the shield of the NFL?

Consistency please.

Suspend everyone for everything.

phillyesq
04-30-2010, 02:54 PM
All this because he refused to turn off his ipod:



Rex Ryan: Santonio Holmes should have turned off his iPod
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 30, 2010 2:23 PM ET
As we previously noted, New York Jets wide receiver Santonio Holmes was escorted off a plane on Thursday night for being "disruptive."

It turns out that the source of the disruption was Holmes' refusal to turn off his iPod when the flight crew asked him to.

Jets head coach Rex Ryan said he had been apprised of the situation, and he acknowledged that Holmes was in the wrong.

"This was kind of blown out of proportion, it seems like," Ryan said. "He certainly should have turned off his iPod. When I speak to him, I'll tell him that. He certainly should do that."

Whether Ryan thinks the story has been blown out of proportion or not, the fact remains: Holmes has already been sued, suspended and traded this offseason, and through it all he continues to demonstrate an attitude that he believes the rules don't apply to him.

While I appreciate his contributions during the playoffs and SB en route to number 6, I'm certainly glad that I don't have to root for him anymore.

Shawn
04-30-2010, 02:58 PM
I have long loved Holmes ability on the field. But, I am so glad he is gone. I am glad he is now the Jets headache.

RuthlessBurgher
04-30-2010, 03:08 PM
I bet he was listening to Afroman on that iPod:

I was a Super Bowl MVP, but then I got high...
I say "That's how you be great" when I get high...
Gone to the Jets for a 5th round pick, and I know why...
Cause I got high, cause I got high, cause I got high...

Oviedo
04-30-2010, 03:14 PM
Anyone still think the Steelers ever had any intent to resign this guy? Anyone think he will stay out of trouble? Not!!!!

Dee Dub
04-30-2010, 03:18 PM
Getting rid of him was a good move by the Steelers. I'm willing to be this time next year the Jets wont be able to anything for him. He will continue to have off field problems. And smoking weed will always be something he does. I have never met one in my entire life who was able to quit.

Alcohol, cocaine, meth, heroin, yep....weed......nope.

Shawn
04-30-2010, 04:26 PM
Getting rid of him was a good move by the Steelers. I'm willing to be this time next year the Jets wont be able to anything for him. He will continue to have off field problems. And smoking weed will always be something he does. I have never met one in my entire life who was able to quit.

Alcohol, cocaine, meth, heroin, yep....weed......nope.

Really? I have know alot of people who smoked alot of pot in college only to put it away as they grew up and had a family.

aggiebones
04-30-2010, 04:29 PM
"This was kind of blown out of proportion, it seems like," Ryan said. "He certainly should have turned off his iPod. When I speak to him, I'll tell him that. He certainly should do that."

Seriously, he needs TOLD this was a bad idea? He might get in trouble maybe?

Dee Dub
04-30-2010, 04:56 PM
Getting rid of him was a good move by the Steelers. I'm willing to be this time next year the Jets wont be able to anything for him. He will continue to have off field problems. And smoking weed will always be something he does. I have never met one in my entire life who was able to quit.

Alcohol, cocaine, meth, heroin, yep....weed......nope.

Really? I have know alot of people who smoked alot of pot in college only to put it away as they grew up and had a family.

Im sure you have Panama Red....but I'm not talkin bout the recreational weed smoker. I'm talkin about the man who goes through my Man Samson on a regular. Ya feel me???

skyhawk
04-30-2010, 08:20 PM
This is news?

Please. Blown out of proportion just like everything is these days.

hawaiiansteel
04-30-2010, 09:03 PM
This is news?

Please. Blown out of proportion just like everything is these days.



and it's inaccurate news at that...




Allegheny County police confirm that Santonio Holmes wasn't removed from plane

Posted by Mike Florio on April 30, 2010 8:44 PM ET


Well, it was a good story when it first surfaced. It would have been even better if it had been, you know, accurate.

Police in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania has issued a statement confirming that Jets receiver Santonio Holmes was not removed from a flight at Pittsburgh International Airport on Thursday night. Here's the full text: "As previously reported, Santanio Holmes was NOT removed from any airplane (4/29/2010). He was asked to remove his Ipod (at one point), in which he complied. There's no further information to report."

The Jets previously acknowledged that Holmes failed to follow flight regulations.

So there you have it. Something happened, but it didn't result in Holmes being ejected as a "disruptive passenger." Still, this guy needs to be on his absolute best behavior, and people on their absolute best behavior don't find themselves in these situations.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... rom-plane/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/30/allegheny-county-police-confirm-that-santonio-holmes-wasnt-removed-from-plane/)

hawaiiansteel
04-30-2010, 09:22 PM
Santonio didn't turn off iPod

Updated: April 30, 2010, 9:07 PM ET
ESPNNewYork.com news services


FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Authorities at Pittsburgh International Airport filed an incident report after New York Jets wide receiver Santonio Holmes failed to follow flight regulations by not turning off his iPod as the plane he was on was landing.

Jets spokesman Bruce Speight said Friday that the team was told Holmes was flying from Newark Liberty International Airport to Pittsburgh on Thursday night when the incident took place.

"On Thursday April 29, 2010 at 21:00 hours, aircom requested officers to gate D-77 for a report of an incident aboard the aircraft no other information was available," the report states. "Myself and Officer [redacted] arrived and spoke to flight attendant [redacted] of Colgan Air who stated that a passenger wouldn't turn off his ipod when requested to do so and requested officers to speak to him."

The report identifies the passenger as Holmes, who was "advised that all instructions from the frlight crew must be adhered to during flights," the report continues.

A TSA regulatory agent was "unavailable and determined to be unnecessary for this matter," the report states.

When Holmes said he understood the regulations, authorities deemed the matter resolved. He was not charged.

Earlier reports from two Pittsburgh-area television stations had said Holmes was escorted off the plane after being "disruptive." The report does not mention any disruptive behavior.

Speight said the report was filed with the Allegheny County Police Department after Holmes' flight landed.

Jets officials said Friday they are looking into the incident, but have not yet spoken with Holmes, who was en route to Las Vegas for the Floyd Mayweather-Shane Mosley fight.

"I know what has been told to me and it kind of got blown out of proportion it sounds like in some of the media outlets and things," said coach Rex Ryan, who addressed reporters during the team's rookie minicamp.

Ryan said he was not happy to have to stand at a podium and address questions about this incident. "I mean, OK, let's face it, he should turn off his iPod," he said. "That's what he should do. He should do that. I haven't had a chance to talk to Santonio, but he certainly should do that."

The troubled but talented Holmes was traded by the Steelers to the Jets on April 11 for a fifth-round draft pick. Last week, he acknowledged taking missteps during his four-season Steelers career, but said in a message on his website he is looking forward to a "clean start" with his new team.

Ryan said he has been happy with Holmes so far, complimenting his work in classroom sessions and the weight room.

"Thanks for the support but some people just want to make their name blow up!" Holmes said on his Twitter page Friday afternoon. "Well congratulations!"

Holmes won't make his Jets regular-season debut until Week 5 of the regular season after the NFL suspended him without pay for the first four games for violating the league's substance abuse policy.

The 2009 Super Bowl MVP was held out for one game by the Steelers in 2008 after police said they detected marijuana in his car. He was recently sued by a woman in Florida, who said he threw a glass at her in a nightclub -- a witness has since taken responsibility for that.

Holmes was also involved in a domestic violence incident in 2006; the misdemeanor charges were later dismissed. He was recently accused of telling a fan to "kill urself" on his Twitter page, but implied that his account was hacked.

Holmes is coming off his best season, with 79 catches for 1,248 yards and five touchdowns, but his troubles off the field could explain the relatively low price the Jets paid to get him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/ ... id=5151435 (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5151435)

feltdizz
05-01-2010, 12:28 AM
Holmes has a target on his back but I think he is too stupid to see it and just thinks it's a spotlight.

Shawn
05-01-2010, 12:49 AM
[quote="Dee Dub":3sph38ba]Getting rid of him was a good move by the Steelers. I'm willing to be this time next year the Jets wont be able to anything for him. He will continue to have off field problems. And smoking weed will always be something he does. I have never met one in my entire life who was able to quit.

Alcohol, cocaine, meth, heroin, yep....weed......nope.

Really? I have know alot of people who smoked alot of pot in college only to put it away as they grew up and had a family.

Im sure you have Panama Red....but I'm not talkin bout the recreational weed smoker. I'm talkin about the man who goes through my Man Samson on a regular. Ya feel me???[/quote:3sph38ba]

lol...oh I feel ya. You mean guys that wake up with gravity bongs beside their bed? Guys that smoke some of the finest stuff...stay high all day? Guys that grow it on their farm from some of the best seeds in the world? Yes, I am familiar. Many of my friends put that away after having a family. I actually only know one that is still heavy in it. Most put it completely away...job drug testing, family, wife etc. It's amazing what people needing you can motivate you to do.

HeHateMe
05-01-2010, 06:47 AM
You guys tell the truth about Tone's transgressions and I agree with your sentiments. BUT WHY do you sugarcoat and conceal the truth about Ben's shortcomings? Why is there ALWAYS an excuse for Ben? But Tone, Harrison, Dookie, Ced and Bam Morris get slammed for their shortcomings? It's just a "coincidence" that Ben has TWO sexual assaults inside of one year. NO truth to the allegations whatsoever. Not to mention that NO pro athlete in the history of sports has been as unlucky as Ben in that regard. Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Brady Quinn, Sanchez,Favre, Montana, Young, Marino, Joe Namath, Matt Leinart etc are all woman magnets but yet they dont have ONE let alone TWO allegations in their lives. Ben has the worst luck I swear

LOL

steelblood
05-01-2010, 07:25 AM
And, if he were still on our team, this would be a thread full of excuses and innocent until proven guilty lines.

cruzer8
05-01-2010, 10:45 AM
And, if he were still on our team, this would be a thread full of excuses and innocent until proven guilty lines.

All the details are known here. He wouldn't turn off his iPod. It was explained to him why he had to do it and he eventually complied. He was never removed from the flight.

Pretty simple.

steelblood
05-01-2010, 11:23 AM
And, if he were still on our team, this would be a thread full of excuses and innocent until proven guilty lines.

All the details are known here. He wouldn't turn off his iPod. It was explained to him why he had to do it and he eventually complied. He was never removed from the flight.

Pretty simple.

Are you denying that some who criticize him now would not defend him if he were still on the team?

cruzer8
05-01-2010, 11:51 AM
And, if he were still on our team, this would be a thread full of excuses and innocent until proven guilty lines.

All the details are known here. He wouldn't turn off his iPod. It was explained to him why he had to do it and he eventually complied. He was never removed from the flight.

Pretty simple.

Are you denying that some who criticize him now would not defend him if he were still on the team?

There very well may have been, but this is not something that's subjective. It's difficult to defend something when all of the facts are known and all of the known facts point to Holmes having done something wrong.

I never understood why it's such a big deal to have an mp3 player going during take off or landing, other than it's the airline industries' way of doing a CYA in case something goes wrong during take off or landing and the pilot or flight attendant has to give emergency instruction. If your mp3 player isn't on then you can't claim you didn't hear the instruction.

steelblood
05-01-2010, 12:35 PM
And, if he were still on our team, this would be a thread full of excuses and innocent until proven guilty lines.

All the details are known here. He wouldn't turn off his iPod. It was explained to him why he had to do it and he eventually complied. He was never removed from the flight.

Pretty simple.

Are you denying that some who criticize him now would not defend him if he were still on the team?

There very well may have been, but this is not something that's subjective. It's difficult to defend something when all of the facts are known and all of the known facts point to Holmes having done something wrong.

I never understood why it's such a big deal to have an mp3 player going during take off or landing, other than it's the airline industries' way of doing a CYA in case something goes wrong during take off or landing and the pilot or flight attendant has to give emergency instruction. If your mp3 player isn't on then you can't claim you didn't hear the instruction.

I agree about the MP3 players. The idea is that portable electronic devices (especially cell phones) can interfere with the plane's instrumentation. If these gadgets can actually interfere with the planes instrumentation, then they should not be allowed on planes at all. I doubt they really have any effect.

hawaiiansteel
05-01-2010, 06:19 PM
Rex Ryan "totally believed" Santonio

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 1, 2010 4:09 PM ET


New York Jets coach Rex Ryan told reporters on Saturday what wide receiver Santonio Holmes told him about the incident that took place on a plane on Thursday night, an incident that doesn't seem to be nearly as big a deal as the original report from a Pittsburgh TV station suggested.

"I talked to Santonio yesterday," Ryan said Saturday. "The facts of the story are Santonio was sleeping. When the flight attendant came by, she said, 'Will you please turn off your [iPod]?' There are so many i-things now, I don't know which it was. He said, 'Yeah, no problem.'"

According to Ryan, Holmes immediately complied with the flight attendant's request but the flight attendant didn't realize he had done so because he didn't take out his ear buds.

"Well, he was tired and never took out the ear things," Ryan said. "He laid back down. When the lady came back and asked again, he said, 'I did. I can hear every word you're saying. I have it off.' He literally handed the ear things to the lady sitting beside him and she goes, 'Yeah, you can't hear anything.' They were off. When he landed, [he exited the plane and was asked to wait for] some police officers. They asked him about it and he said exactly what happened."

Ryan says he accepts Holmes' explanation and is moving on.

"When Santonio told me, I totally believed him," Ryan said. "It's one of those things, but I believe Santonio and I'm looking forward to him being a Jet and playing here. That's the story."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -santonio/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/01/rex-ryan-totally-believed-santonio/)

DukieBoy
05-01-2010, 06:25 PM
Rex Ryan "totally believed" Santonio

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 1, 2010 4:09 PM ET


New York Jets coach Rex Ryan told reporters on Saturday what wide receiver Santonio Holmes told him about the incident that took place on a plane on Thursday night, an incident that doesn't seem to be nearly as big a deal as the original report from a Pittsburgh TV station suggested.

"I talked to Santonio yesterday," Ryan said Saturday. "The facts of the story are Santonio was sleeping. When the flight attendant came by, she said, 'Will you please turn off your [iPod]?' There are so many i-things now, I don't know which it was. He said, 'Yeah, no problem.'"

According to Ryan, Holmes immediately complied with the flight attendant's request but the flight attendant didn't realize he had done so because he didn't take out his ear buds.

"Well, he was tired and never took out the ear things," Ryan said. "He laid back down. When the lady came back and asked again, he said, 'I did. I can hear every word you're saying. I have it off.' He literally handed the ear things to the lady sitting beside him and she goes, 'Yeah, you can't hear anything.' They were off. When he landed, [he exited the plane and was asked to wait for] some police officers. They asked him about it and he said exactly what happened."

Ryan says he accepts Holmes' explanation and is moving on.

"When Santonio told me, I totally believed him," Ryan said. "It's one of those things, but I believe Santonio and I'm looking forward to him being a Jet and playing here. That's the story."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -santonio/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/01/rex-ryan-totally-believed-santonio/)


10-4, Buddy's Boy. And 4-20, too.

feltdizz
05-01-2010, 06:45 PM
And, if he were still on our team, this would be a thread full of excuses and innocent until proven guilty lines.

:Agree Trash on the runway and death threats for the stewardess...

Why is this news?