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SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-24-2010, 04:33 PM
I heard somewhere he can participate in OTAs, but at some point he has to be disappeared until the Monday before the 1st game back.

I wonder if the Steelers will see any benefit in his working out with the 1st team until the last possible moment, or whether they think it will be better to have the Dixon/Batch/Leftwich shootout begin asap.

What do you guys (and girls!) think?

Shawn
04-24-2010, 04:36 PM
For the first 4 games...it helps to have Ben gone. But, after I'm not sure how Ben will respond to all the time off.

skyhawk
04-24-2010, 04:59 PM
Ben historically plays bad in his first game back after an injury.

I suspect he will need to games to get back into the groove after his suspension.

Steelgal
04-24-2010, 05:36 PM
I thought I heard he was unable to do any team activities, until his assessment. BUT he would be able to participate in training camp. Not positive on this though....

BigRob
04-24-2010, 05:59 PM
I thought I heard he was unable to do any team activities, until his assessment. BUT he would be able to participate in training camp. Not positive on this though....

Until he completes his assessment he must stay gone. Once that is done, he can participate in Mini Camps, Training Camp, and preseason games. Once the 1st game of the year swings around he can't practice or participate for at least four games.

NJ-STEELER
04-24-2010, 06:01 PM
no practice either during the suspension?

that stinks

pittpete
04-24-2010, 06:47 PM
Lets hope he stops eating because he is getting pretty fat

cruzer8
04-24-2010, 06:55 PM
Lets hope he stops eating because he is getting pretty fat

No he's not. People have been saying that about him since the cycle accident. The surgery he endured changed his face.

He may have a John Goodman face, but the rest of him is in good shape. He's not sculpted. Never was. But he's most certainly not fat.

JAR
04-24-2010, 06:59 PM
Lets hope he stops eating because he is getting pretty fat

People with the he's fat crap. :roll:



Dr. Daniel W. Pituch, chief of the Division of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery at Mercy, who was directly involved with the surgery Monday, said that the surgical team used "internal fixation technology," which involves the placement of small titanium plates and screws onto the surface of the broken bones in Mr. Roethlisberger's jaws and face.

pittpete
04-24-2010, 07:45 PM
You dating Ben?
People arent blind dude.
The guy has put on a few pounds and its not due to surgery my man.
Calm down allready.

fezziwig
04-24-2010, 07:46 PM
I wonder where Ben will hide out to now ? Are we going to run into him at Quaker Steak and Lube or getting gas at Sheets ?

On game day, will he be allowed to sit in the Steeler box with the Rooneys ? Maybe it the stadium with the fans ? :lol: Wouldn't that be something ?
Ben with a bunch of teenage girls drinking beers, screaming crap at the other team with Ben wearing a sweatband on his head that reads' " Goodell " The front office, fans and Goodell would flip but, it sure would be funny.

cruzer8
04-24-2010, 09:59 PM
You dating Ben?
People arent blind dude.
The guy has put on a few pounds and its not due to surgery my man.
Calm down allready.

No, not dating him. Just find it annoying when people post things that aren't true.

papillon
04-24-2010, 10:03 PM
I wonder where Ben will hide out to now ? Are we going to run into him at Quaker Steak and Lube or getting gas at Sheets ?

Probably the Towers or the Quad at the University of Pittsburgh. He'll be challenging himself as part of his psychological evaluation to see if he can steer clear of college skirt.

On game day, will he be allowed to sit in the Steeler box with the Rooneys ? Maybe it the stadium with the fans ? :lol: Wouldn't that be something ?
Ben with a bunch of teenage girls drinking beers, screaming crap at the other team with Ben wearing a sweatband on his head that reads' " Goodell " The front office, fans and Goodell would flip but, it sure would be funny.

Pappy

SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-24-2010, 10:09 PM
I wonder where Ben will hide out to now ? Are we going to run into him at Quaker Steak and Lube or getting gas at Sheets ?

Probably the Towers or the Quad at the University of Pittsburgh. He'll be challenging himself as part of his psychological evaluation to see if he can steer clear of college skirt.

On game day, will he be allowed to sit in the Steeler box with the Rooneys ? Maybe it the stadium with the fans ? :lol: Wouldn't that be something ?
Ben with a bunch of teenage girls drinking beers, screaming crap at the other team with Ben wearing a sweatband on his head that reads' " Goodell " The front office, fans and Goodell would flip but, it sure would be funny.

Pappy


:lol: 'pillon, but actually probably the Quad at Carnegie-Mellon ... from the pics I've seen online, Ben doesn't tend to surround himself with "10"s (my old girlfriend excepted, of course)!

papillon
04-24-2010, 10:17 PM
I wonder where Ben will hide out to now ? Are we going to run into him at Quaker Steak and Lube or getting gas at Sheets ?

Probably the Towers or the Quad at the University of Pittsburgh. He'll be challenging himself as part of his psychological evaluation to see if he can steer clear of college skirt.

On game day, will he be allowed to sit in the Steeler box with the Rooneys ? Maybe it the stadium with the fans ? :lol: Wouldn't that be something ?
Ben with a bunch of teenage girls drinking beers, screaming crap at the other team with Ben wearing a sweatband on his head that reads' " Goodell " The front office, fans and Goodell would flip but, it sure would be funny.

Pappy


:lol: 'pillon, but actually probably the Quad at Carnegie-Mellon ... from the pics I've seen online, Ben doesn't tend to surround himself with "10"s (my old girlfriend excepted, of course)!

I'll raise your CMU, one Chatham college and one Carlow college, that will keep him out of trouble for sure.

Pappy

SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-24-2010, 10:24 PM
I wonder where Ben will hide out to now ? Are we going to run into him at Quaker Steak and Lube or getting gas at Sheets ?

Probably the Towers or the Quad at the University of Pittsburgh. He'll be challenging himself as part of his psychological evaluation to see if he can steer clear of college skirt.

On game day, will he be allowed to sit in the Steeler box with the Rooneys ? Maybe it the stadium with the fans ? :lol: Wouldn't that be something ?
Ben with a bunch of teenage girls drinking beers, screaming crap at the other team with Ben wearing a sweatband on his head that reads' " Goodell " The front office, fans and Goodell would flip but, it sure would be funny.

Pappy


:lol: 'pillon, but actually probably the Quad at Carnegie-Mellon ... from the pics I've seen online, Ben doesn't tend to surround himself with "10"s (my old girlfriend excepted, of course)!

I'll raise your CMU, one Chatham college and one Carlow college, that will keep him out of trouble for sure.

Pappy

Wow, DECADES of hoagers ... from the point of view of consistency, that's very impressive!! :Boobs

SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-24-2010, 10:31 PM
Here's an answer from the big guys themselves! (from fordfixer's post viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11853 (http://www.planetsteelers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11853) ):



Post-Draft Press Conference
Posted 5 hours ago

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/ ... 22a134cfb2

Director of Football Operations Kevin Colbert and Coach Mike Tomlin

...

Q) Have you talked with Ben recently? And if so, is he eager to get back to what he has to do to move forward?

MT: Yes, I think thats his mindset. He is going to make a comment regarding the discipline of the Commissioner on Monday. Ill let him do that. But its my understanding, at this point, that hes ready to meet those challenges and take the necessary steps to move forward with his career.

Q) Since everything is sort of played out with Bens return, how do you balance the competition to figure out whos going to start when Ben isnt available? And what do you do when Ben is ready to come back and how do you balance that?

MT: Well what we know at this point is that he is going to be unavailable for at least the first four football games of the season. Weve got three guys that were very comfortable with playing. We will use the rest of the organized team activity days to kind of sort through and get some information in regards to where those guys are. And then were going to make some hard and fast decisions going into training camp because the reality is you cant get four guys ready to play in a camp. Well make that decision at that time. Right now, were going to work with all three of these men that will of course be a part of the program in the short term and see where they are. We will get reacquainted with Byron Leftwich. Of course, Charlie Batch is coming off an injury and Dennis Dickson is an emerging young guy. There are many reps to be had. A lot of teaching needs to be done. Were going to do that. And well make a decision prior to going to Latrobe about how were going to go about divvying up the work load, if you will.

papillon
04-24-2010, 10:37 PM
This brings up a very interesting situation. How do you run training camp? Do you give the majority of the reps? He will be the quarterback for 12 games. or, do you give Leftwich and Dixon the reps, the Steelers really need to win 2 of the first 4 games or it will be a difficult road to the playoffs.

Me, I wold prep Ben as if he's playing from day one and get the other guys ready as if Ben got hurt on Sunday and is going to miss one game, then do that 4 times.

Pappy

Lebsteel
04-25-2010, 01:15 AM
This brings up a very interesting situation. How do you run training camp? Do you give the majority of the reps? He will be the quarterback for 12 games. or, do you give Leftwich and Dixon the reps, the Steelers really need to win 2 of the first 4 games or it will be a difficult road to the playoffs.

Me, I wold prep Ben as if he's playing from day one and get the other guys ready as if Ben got hurt on Sunday and is going to miss one game, then do that 4 times.

Pappy
For the first time in three days, I agree with you :lol: :lol:

Discipline of Steel
04-25-2010, 09:29 AM
Here is a nice breakdown of the games Ben will miss...and play in once he returns.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/w ... index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/04/21/roethlisberger/index.html)


2010 Steelers Schedule
Date Opponent
Sep. 12 Falcons
Sep. 19 at Titans
Sep. 26 at Buccaneers
Oct. 3 Ravens
Oct. 10 BYE
Oct. 17 Browns
Oct. 24 at Dolphins
Oct. 31 at Saints
Nov. 8 at Bengals
Nov. 14 Patriots
Nov. 21 Raiders
Nov. 28 at Bills
Dec. 5 at Ravens
Dec. 12 Bengals
Dec. 19 Jets
Dec. 23 Panthers
Jan. 2 at Browns

The Steelers without a suspended Ben Roethlisberger early in the 2010 season will be an obviously weakened team, but they are not the 2007 Falcons sent reeling by an incarcerated Michael Vick or even the equivalent of a Colts or Saints team if they were to face a daunting extended absence by star quarterbacks Peyton Manning or Drew Brees.

Make no mistake, Roethlisberger's NFL-mandated suspension of six games without pay, which can be reduced to four with good behavior, is a definite blow to Pittsburgh's bid to return to the playoffs after a one-year hiatus. There aren't too many lineups that can easily absorb the loss of a two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback. But the announcement by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Wednesday is far from a death sentence that all but ends the Steelers 2010 season months before it begins.

All bets clearly are off if the Steelers throw up their hands and trade Roethlisberger, who was accused of but not charged with sexually assaulting a 20-year-old college student in a Georgia nightclub in March. But if he remains in Pittsburgh and completes what Goodell termed a "comprehensive behavioral evaluation by medical professionals," the reality is this:

Since he took over as the team's fulltime starter in Week 3 of his 2004 rookie season, Roethlisberger has missed eight starts due to either injury or designed inactivity. Pittsburgh is 4-4 in those games, getting wins from backups Tommy Maddox and Charlie Batch, and losses by Maddox, Batch and 2008 draft pick Dennis Dixon. So history says Pittsburgh's season will neither dramatically swoon or succeed without No. 7 under center.

Share your reaction to the suspension: Should Steelers trade Roethlisberger?

And in a very shrewd move that could give the Steelers their best shot to survive the first month of the season without Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh on Tuesday traded for Big Ben's 2008 backup, Byron Leftwich, whose stellar work that year set him up for a starting opportunity in Tampa Bay in 2009.

Leftwich, acquired from the Bucs for a seventh-round pick in this year's draft, saw action in six games (including playoffs) for Pittsburgh that season, and wound up completing 21 of 37 passes for 303 yards, two touchdowns and a sterling 104.3 passer rating. His best work for the eventual Super Bowl champions came in a Week 9 win at Washington, when he replaced an injured Roethlisberger at halftime, taking a 10-6 Steelers lead and turning it into a 23-6 victory.

Leftwich gives Pittsburgh a veteran starting option who is very familiar with the Steelers offense and comfortable sliding back into a spotlight role on a team that had embraced him just two years ago. Leftwich, 30, knows what's expected of him in Pittsburgh, knows the locker room, and brings 49 career starts in the NFL and a 24-25 record to his potential month-long stint in the No. 1 job. That might just prove invaluable to the Steelers as they try to get past one of the ugliest chapters in their recent history without paying the price of an entire season sent swirling down the drain.

It's certainly not out of the question that Dixon, the third-year veteran who Pittsburgh drafted in the fifth round in 2008, might be the quarterback who emerges to bridge the gap created by Roethlisberger's suspension. After throwing just one pass as a rookie in the 2008 regular season, the former Oregon Duck opened some eyes with a fairly impressive first career start at Baltimore in Week 12 of last season, when both Roethlisberger (concussion) and veteran backup Batch were out with injuries.

Though the Steelers lost 20-17 in overtime that night, at the midpoint of a five-game late-season losing streak that doomed any chance they had to make the playoffs and repeat as Super Bowl champs, Dixon performed better than expected. He completed 12 of 26 passes for 145 yards, with one touchdown pass, one interception and a 24-yard touchdown run. It was his scoring run that gave Pittsburgh a three-point lead with less than seven minutes left in regulation, but the Steelers defense failed to protect the advantage and Dixon's overtime interception set up Baltimore's game-winning field goal.

The NFL schedule-maker also seems to have done the Steelers a bit of a favor in the season's first month, at least giving Pittsburgh a chance to endure Roethlisberger's absence. The Steelers open at home against Atlanta, travel to Tennessee and Tampa Bay in Weeks 2 and 3, and return home to face division rival Baltimore in Week 4. That's starting the season with three opponents that didn't make the playoffs in 2009 -- although both the Falcons and Titans were two of the league's better non-playoff teams by year's end -- before getting a stern challenge from the Ravens.

But that also means Pittsburgh's toughest game in the first month is at home, and one of its presumed easier games, at Tampa Bay, falls just before the test against the Ravens. Another potential godsend is that Pittsburgh has four consecutive Sunday 1 p.m. kickoffs to start the season, meaning no high-profile primetime game or nationally televised affair awaits Roethlisberger's replacement, where the pressure and the spotlight would be greater.

The Steelers' newly released schedule features five primetime games this season, but all of them fall between Weeks 8-16, a scenario which now seems to be anything but a coincidence.

Even in the unlikely event that Roethlisberger's suspension winds up lasting the maximum length of six games, Pittsburgh has a fifth-week bye, then plays host to the last-place Browns in Week 6, followed by a trip to Miami in Week 7. Only two of Pittsburgh's critical six division games could thus be affected by Roethlisberger's absence, and just one against a team projected to be a winner this year.

As has been his tendency throughout his four-year tenure, Goodell has spoken loud and clear to Roethlisberger. His punishment is no slap on the wrist, especially given that no criminal charges were ever filed.

But Pittsburgh's 2010 season will not necessarily be ruined by the Roethlisberger saga and its messy fallout. Starting today, the Steelers can at least see forward and know what they're dealing with in regards to their controversial starting quarterback. Picking up the pieces of an offseason unlike any other in Pittsburgh, the Steelers and Roethlisberger both now have a path to follow.

Discipline of Steel
04-25-2010, 09:29 AM
Here is a nice breakdown of the games Ben will miss...and play in once he returns.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/w ... index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/04/21/roethlisberger/index.html)


2010 Steelers Schedule
Date Opponent
Sep. 12 Falcons
Sep. 19 at Titans
Sep. 26 at Buccaneers
Oct. 3 Ravens
Oct. 10 BYE
Oct. 17 Browns
Oct. 24 at Dolphins
Oct. 31 at Saints
Nov. 8 at Bengals
Nov. 14 Patriots
Nov. 21 Raiders
Nov. 28 at Bills
Dec. 5 at Ravens
Dec. 12 Bengals
Dec. 19 Jets
Dec. 23 Panthers
Jan. 2 at Browns

The Steelers without a suspended Ben Roethlisberger early in the 2010 season will be an obviously weakened team, but they are not the 2007 Falcons sent reeling by an incarcerated Michael Vick or even the equivalent of a Colts or Saints team if they were to face a daunting extended absence by star quarterbacks Peyton Manning or Drew Brees.

Make no mistake, Roethlisberger's NFL-mandated suspension of six games without pay, which can be reduced to four with good behavior, is a definite blow to Pittsburgh's bid to return to the playoffs after a one-year hiatus. There aren't too many lineups that can easily absorb the loss of a two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback. But the announcement by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Wednesday is far from a death sentence that all but ends the Steelers 2010 season months before it begins.

All bets clearly are off if the Steelers throw up their hands and trade Roethlisberger, who was accused of but not charged with sexually assaulting a 20-year-old college student in a Georgia nightclub in March. But if he remains in Pittsburgh and completes what Goodell termed a "comprehensive behavioral evaluation by medical professionals," the reality is this:

Since he took over as the team's fulltime starter in Week 3 of his 2004 rookie season, Roethlisberger has missed eight starts due to either injury or designed inactivity. Pittsburgh is 4-4 in those games, getting wins from backups Tommy Maddox and Charlie Batch, and losses by Maddox, Batch and 2008 draft pick Dennis Dixon. So history says Pittsburgh's season will neither dramatically swoon or succeed without No. 7 under center.

Share your reaction to the suspension: Should Steelers trade Roethlisberger?

And in a very shrewd move that could give the Steelers their best shot to survive the first month of the season without Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh on Tuesday traded for Big Ben's 2008 backup, Byron Leftwich, whose stellar work that year set him up for a starting opportunity in Tampa Bay in 2009.

Leftwich, acquired from the Bucs for a seventh-round pick in this year's draft, saw action in six games (including playoffs) for Pittsburgh that season, and wound up completing 21 of 37 passes for 303 yards, two touchdowns and a sterling 104.3 passer rating. His best work for the eventual Super Bowl champions came in a Week 9 win at Washington, when he replaced an injured Roethlisberger at halftime, taking a 10-6 Steelers lead and turning it into a 23-6 victory.

Leftwich gives Pittsburgh a veteran starting option who is very familiar with the Steelers offense and comfortable sliding back into a spotlight role on a team that had embraced him just two years ago. Leftwich, 30, knows what's expected of him in Pittsburgh, knows the locker room, and brings 49 career starts in the NFL and a 24-25 record to his potential month-long stint in the No. 1 job. That might just prove invaluable to the Steelers as they try to get past one of the ugliest chapters in their recent history without paying the price of an entire season sent swirling down the drain.

It's certainly not out of the question that Dixon, the third-year veteran who Pittsburgh drafted in the fifth round in 2008, might be the quarterback who emerges to bridge the gap created by Roethlisberger's suspension. After throwing just one pass as a rookie in the 2008 regular season, the former Oregon Duck opened some eyes with a fairly impressive first career start at Baltimore in Week 12 of last season, when both Roethlisberger (concussion) and veteran backup Batch were out with injuries.

Though the Steelers lost 20-17 in overtime that night, at the midpoint of a five-game late-season losing streak that doomed any chance they had to make the playoffs and repeat as Super Bowl champs, Dixon performed better than expected. He completed 12 of 26 passes for 145 yards, with one touchdown pass, one interception and a 24-yard touchdown run. It was his scoring run that gave Pittsburgh a three-point lead with less than seven minutes left in regulation, but the Steelers defense failed to protect the advantage and Dixon's overtime interception set up Baltimore's game-winning field goal.

The NFL schedule-maker also seems to have done the Steelers a bit of a favor in the season's first month, at least giving Pittsburgh a chance to endure Roethlisberger's absence. The Steelers open at home against Atlanta, travel to Tennessee and Tampa Bay in Weeks 2 and 3, and return home to face division rival Baltimore in Week 4. That's starting the season with three opponents that didn't make the playoffs in 2009 -- although both the Falcons and Titans were two of the league's better non-playoff teams by year's end -- before getting a stern challenge from the Ravens.

But that also means Pittsburgh's toughest game in the first month is at home, and one of its presumed easier games, at Tampa Bay, falls just before the test against the Ravens. Another potential godsend is that Pittsburgh has four consecutive Sunday 1 p.m. kickoffs to start the season, meaning no high-profile primetime game or nationally televised affair awaits Roethlisberger's replacement, where the pressure and the spotlight would be greater.

The Steelers' newly released schedule features five primetime games this season, but all of them fall between Weeks 8-16, a scenario which now seems to be anything but a coincidence.

Even in the unlikely event that Roethlisberger's suspension winds up lasting the maximum length of six games, Pittsburgh has a fifth-week bye, then plays host to the last-place Browns in Week 6, followed by a trip to Miami in Week 7. Only two of Pittsburgh's critical six division games could thus be affected by Roethlisberger's absence, and just one against a team projected to be a winner this year.

As has been his tendency throughout his four-year tenure, Goodell has spoken loud and clear to Roethlisberger. His punishment is no slap on the wrist, especially given that no criminal charges were ever filed.

But Pittsburgh's 2010 season will not necessarily be ruined by the Roethlisberger saga and its messy fallout. Starting today, the Steelers can at least see forward and know what they're dealing with in regards to their controversial starting quarterback. Picking up the pieces of an offseason unlike any other in Pittsburgh, the Steelers and Roethlisberger both now have a path to follow.