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Steelgal
04-22-2010, 01:51 PM
jimwexell Wouldn't be surprised if Ben traded after talking to source. Could be KC. #Steelers' brass absolutely adores Suh, so that'd put em in range.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-22-2010, 01:53 PM
jimwexell Wouldn't be surprised if Ben traded after talking to source. Could be KC. #Steelers' brass absolutely adores Suh, so that'd put em in range.

I just want this to be over!!

Shawn
04-22-2010, 01:53 PM
bs

RuthlessBurgher
04-22-2010, 01:53 PM
How in the hell would trading up to #5 put them in range for Suh?

Shawn
04-22-2010, 01:55 PM
It wouldn't.

Steelgal
04-22-2010, 01:57 PM
Here's a post on a subscribers-only forum from Wexell as well....

The Deuce didn't need input. There's a lot of crap flying around about Ben, locker room stuff too. Rooneys are furious. I talked to a guy with another team who thinks Goodell did Tomlin a favor by giving him a voice now over Ben. Tomlin will be in charge of the team for the first time and it may actually help. But I'm hearing Rooneys definitely want him gone.

Don't know who the 'Deuce' is, he's referring too....

Steelgal
04-22-2010, 01:58 PM
How in the hell would trading up to #5 put them in range for Suh?

I know nothing about draft points, but what's the difference between the 5th and 2nd slots?? Could it be our 18th, the 5th, and a couple other rounds to trade with Detroit?

Steelgal
04-22-2010, 02:01 PM
Also, if it's KC, didn't they give Matt Cassell a big contract last year?? It makes no sensse, but wanted to report anyway :HeadBanger

Snatch98
04-22-2010, 02:01 PM
Jesus, I was going to say something like trading Ben would ruin my off-season/season but then pulled back and tried to actually evaluate the effects of that move. I'd be beside myself and probably just sit and stare at the TV in disbelief for what would seem like forever. It BETTER NOT happen and if for some terrible reason it does it better be for more than just KC's first round draft choice.

Although if the Rooney's absolutely want him gone I'm at a loss because I've always felt they did what was best for the team. I just can't imagine a Steeler team without Big Ben behind center.

ANPSTEEL
04-22-2010, 02:02 PM
bs


I'm with you on this-

KC spent a rack of loot on Cassel- I don't see them making a move for Ben.

right now we have a ton of disinformation and posturing going on.

Teams that should be, and likely are, interested are giving all kinds of smokescreens through the media.

I mean, come on, Buffalo is not interested?!?? whatever.

That team has little to no relevance anymore- Ben would dramatically improve them, and put butts in the seats.

St. Louis??? Are you kidding me? Same thing as Buf.

....


I have no idea if Ben will be traded or not, at this point, but we know there are plenty of teams that would benefit from having him.

The question, of course, is what are they willing to give up?

BigRob
04-22-2010, 02:06 PM
Here's a post on a subscribers-only forum from Wexell as well....

The Deuce didn't need input. There's a lot of crap flying around about Ben, locker room stuff too. Rooneys are furious. I talked to a guy with another team who thinks Goodell did Tomlin a favor by giving him a voice now over Ben. Tomlin will be in charge of the team for the first time and it may actually help. But I'm hearing Rooneys definitely want him gone.

Don't know who the 'Deuce' is, he's referring too....

the 'Deuce' is Art II. Wexell is pretty on it with his reporting. This is the first time I have really heard him start mentioning that a trade is possible. Up to this point he has stated that the Rooney's were furious but that they would not trade Ben. For him to be reporting this it is probably true they are trying to shop Ben.

It is really starting to look like Ben is too toxic for the rest of the NFL at this point.

hawaiiansteel
04-22-2010, 02:06 PM
How in the hell would trading up to #5 put them in range for Suh?

I know nothing about draft points, but what's the difference between the 5th and 2nd slots?? Could it be our 18th, the 5th, and a couple other rounds to trade with Detroit?



the difference is 900 points, which equates to our #1 pick.

so let's say KC gaves us their #1 choice at #5, we could then trade it and our pick at #18 to move into the 2nd slot.

proudpittsburgher
04-22-2010, 02:06 PM
Don't know who the 'Deuce' is, he's referring too....

Art Rooney II?

proudpittsburgher
04-22-2010, 02:07 PM
I'm starting to get upset to my stomach again. :cry: I seriously can't take this.

Oviedo
04-22-2010, 02:10 PM
Would be giving Ben away. You would have to give up your #18 plus our #52 plus about 4 other picks to get up to #2 to get Suh. So essentially you trade Ben plus picks to get a DT. That would be truly stupid.

If you are going to that then just release him and keep the picks.

Lebsteel
04-22-2010, 02:35 PM
Would be giving Ben away. You would have to give up your #18 plus our #52 plus about 4 other picks to get up to #2 to get Suh. So essentially you trade Ben plus picks to get a DT. That would be truly stupid.

If you are going to that then just release him and keep the picks.
See Hawaiian's post above. If we trade Ben for the #5 (1,700), then all we need is our #18 (900) to move up to #2 (2,600). No other picks would be needed. I'd love to get Suh, but I would need more for Ben. Thrown in Cassell and maybe it would be a deal.

cruzer8
04-22-2010, 02:37 PM
Wake me when it actually happens.

Eddie Spaghetti
04-22-2010, 02:53 PM
my tv and dog will have a tough time surviving the night if this deal goes down.

steelblood
04-22-2010, 02:58 PM
Eddie,

Do whatever to the TV. But, leave that dog alone!

BURGH86STEEL
04-22-2010, 03:04 PM
jimwexell Wouldn't be surprised if Ben traded after talking to source. Could be KC. #Steelers' brass absolutely adores Suh, so that'd put em in range.

I just want this to be over!!

I agree. I hope they make a decision soon.

WoodleyofTroy
04-22-2010, 03:17 PM
Here's a post on a subscribers-only forum from Wexell as well....

The Deuce didn't need input. There's a lot of crap flying around about Ben, locker room stuff too. Rooneys are furious. I talked to a guy with another team who thinks Goodell did Tomlin a favor by giving him a voice now over Ben. Tomlin will be in charge of the team for the first time and it may actually help. But I'm hearing Rooneys definitely want him gone.

Don't know who the 'Deuce' is, he's referring too....

the 'Deuce' is Art II. Wexell is pretty on it with his reporting. This is the first time I have really heard him start mentioning that a trade is possible. Up to this point he has stated that the Rooney's were furious but that they would not trade Ben. For him to be reporting this it is probably true they are trying to shop Ben.

It is really starting to look like Ben is too toxic for the rest of the NFL at this point.

This is the first time there has been a twitter for the draft. It's ruining credibilty. I don't trust anything that people "tweet".

Ozey74
04-22-2010, 04:26 PM
It BETTER NOT happen and if for some terrible reason it does it better be for more than just KC's first round draft choice.

What if they give us Cassell & their 1st round pick?

Prior to today, I was at peace with Big Ben being traded. Now that the draft is approaching, I hope to God it doesn't happen!!!!

:shock:

Oviedo
04-22-2010, 04:31 PM
A tarnished Roethlisberger is better than any QB you could find in the next 5 years. Let him redeem himself and don't make a stupid trade out of wounded pride or bruised ego.

Remember, it is darkest before the dawn. I'm banking on the dawn of a better Ben.

Steelgal
04-22-2010, 04:46 PM
A tarnished Roethlisberger is better than any QB you could find in the next 5 years. Let him redeem himself and don't make a stupid trade out of wounded pride or bruised ego.

Remember, it is darkest before the dawn. I'm banking on the dawn of a better Ben.

I agree..... I bet he comes back fired up to prove his worth to the team and fans. There's some fans he'll never win back over, but most should be cheering him by the time the playoffs come around. If not sooner.

Lebsteel
04-22-2010, 04:50 PM
A tarnished Roethlisberger is better than any QB you could find in the next 5 years. Let him redeem himself and don't make a stupid trade out of wounded pride or bruised ego.

Remember, it is darkest before the dawn. I'm banking on the dawn of a better Ben.

I agree..... I bet he comes back fired up to prove his worth to the team and fans. There's some fans he'll never win back over, but most should be cheering him by the time the playoffs come around. If not sooner.
Yes, my hope is that Ben is truly a changed man...or will be very soon and that he does come back with a renewed enthusiasm for the game as the QB of the Steelers! BUT, if he is not a changed man or sees no reason to change, then I'm with Shawn, KICK HIM IN THE PANTS!

NW Steeler
04-22-2010, 04:52 PM
A year from now there will be no mention of any of this.

Hopefully.

skyhawk
04-22-2010, 04:52 PM
I'm starting to get upset to my stomach again. :cry: I seriously can't take this.

Ditto. :HeadBanger

steelsnis
04-22-2010, 04:55 PM
For what it's worth, La Canfora is reporting on the NFL Network that there is NO TRADE in the works for Roethlisberger. He said that the ONLY call the Steelers ever made was to St. Louis for the #1 overall. The Raiders were the only other team who contacted the Steelers but the Steelers shut that down.

Herewegosteelers!
04-22-2010, 05:58 PM
For what it's worth, La Canfora is reporting on the NFL Network that there is NO TRADE in the works for Roethlisberger. He said that the ONLY call the Steelers ever made was to St. Louis for the #1 overall. The Raiders were the only other team who contacted the Steelers but the Steelers shut that down.

That sounds logical. Now let's move on and keep Ben!!! :tt2

hawaiiansteel
04-22-2010, 06:02 PM
Eddie,

Do whatever to the TV. But, leave that dog alone!



interesting that you also have an OT taken in Rd. 2 and Saffold is a very good one...

problem is that Saffold will never make it to our pick at #52, we would have to trade up for him.