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Shawn
04-18-2010, 11:13 AM
I'm pretty comfortable posting my final mock. First if Thomas, Haden or Spiller drop I think they present too much value to pass on. But, I believe all three will be gone. With all of them gone...I believe it comes down to the best values left Iupati and Pouncey. A couple reasons I run with Pouncey. #1-He is ready now to start...I believe he could beat out Hartwig from day 1. #2 We have some young talent at Guard that I believe the Steelers could be ok with...let em fight it out. #3 We missed out on a Center in last years draft...I don't think we will make that mistake again.

Round Two-I think it will come down to Benn, Ghee, and Jackson. This is harder to predict. Of the three I think Ghee will have the best NFL career. I don't see Jackson as having more than a solid #2 type career at best. I believe Ghee could turn into something special. Ugh...Benn...seen alot of him. I'm not overwhelmed. His hands are average, route running a little better than average but he does possess some ability with the ball after the catch that would temp the Steelers. I would prefer to run with Shipley in the third personally. But, the Steelers haven't shown interest. I have to run with Ghee...it's even possible we might need to trade up to grab him.

So, here it goes...

1) Maurkice Pouncey-C
2) Brandon Ghee-DB
3) Navorro Bowman ILB
4) Mike Neal-DT
5) LeGarrette Blount-RB (I know...but a man can dream eh?)
5b) Nolan Carrol-DB
5c) Kam Chancellor-S
5d) Carlton Mitchell-WR
6) Pat Angerer-ILB
7) Clay Harbor-FB
7B) Adrian Tracy DE/LB

steelerkeylargo
04-18-2010, 11:23 AM
Id be really fine with that....although I think Mitchell and Chancellor are 3rd and 4th rounders respectively.

steelblood
04-18-2010, 11:41 AM
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?!!???!!????

nice job.

Shawn
04-18-2010, 11:43 AM
Id be really fine with that....although I think Mitchell and Chancellor are 3rd and 4th rounders respectively.

I hear ya...I have seen Mitchell as high as 2 and as low as 6. He is big and has decent speed. But, his very inconsistant hands and his school drop this guy on draft day. I'm not sure he will go 5d range but I do think he will drop late 4- mid 5 range.

As for Chancellor...anything can happen come draft day...I really like this kid. Most site have him as a 4. But, I'm hoping questions about his speed...and whether he is truly a safety...possible tweener drop his stock.

snarky
04-18-2010, 12:21 PM
Pat Angerer sounds like the kind of guy that could get under the other teams skin and take them off their game. Good pick.

Lebsteel
04-18-2010, 12:31 PM
I'm not sure Bowman would work as an ILB. Maybe an OLB...but, Sean Lee is the man if we are looking for a 2nd or 3rd Rd ILB.

papillon
04-18-2010, 12:38 PM
That's an excellent mock draft

Pappy

Shawn
04-18-2010, 12:42 PM
Pat Angerer sounds like the kind of guy that could get under the other teams skin and take them off their game. Good pick.

Ahh so you are familiar with Angerer. I thought he was my little secret. I absolutely love this kid. Extremely productive...a work horse...football smart...good leadership qualities...tough/blue collar hit you in the face type of player....constant motor. He has average athletic measureables which will drop him but I think he can be a quality starter in the NFL.

snarky
04-18-2010, 12:52 PM
No I was just going on his name. :wink:

Shawn
04-18-2010, 03:00 PM
I'm not sure Bowman would work as an ILB. Maybe an OLB...but, Sean Lee is the man if we are looking for a 2nd or 3rd Rd ILB.

In our current system it seems Tomlin likes the guys who can blitz and fall back into coverage. Bowman can do both. I don't think Tomlin will look for a traditional thumper type of ILB. He is a 1st/2nd round talent in my book. I also suspect unless we move up in the second for Lee he will be gone. I suspect Graham, Odrick and Lee all jump on draft day. With that said, as much as I Bowman I doubt the Steelers take a chance on him...the fight and the MJ issues will probably keep him off our radar. But, there are a couple guys on my mock I don't think we will touch Blount and Bowman...but I'm a fan so I included them.

hawaiiansteel
04-18-2010, 05:24 PM
I'm not sure Bowman would work as an ILB. Maybe an OLB...but, Sean Lee is the man if we are looking for a 2nd or 3rd Rd ILB.

In our current system it seems Tomlin likes the guys who can blitz and fall back into coverage. Bowman can do both. I don't think Tomlin will look for a traditional thumper type of ILB. He is a 1st/2nd round talent in my book. I also suspect unless we move up in the second for Lee he will be gone. I suspect Graham, Odrick and Lee all jump on draft day. With that said, as much as I Bowman I doubt the Steelers take a chance on him...the fight and the MJ issues will probably keep him off our radar. But, there are a couple guys on my mock I don't think we will touch Blount and Bowman...but I'm a fan so I included them.



I like Sean Lee a lot and have considered drafting him in Round 2 in our PlanetSteelers mock draft. Problem is, we just re-signed Larry Foote and have Farrior, Timmons and Keyaron Fox already there at the ILB position. I think a guy like Pat Angerer (great name for a LB!) in a later round is more likely.

fordfixer
04-18-2010, 06:46 PM
I'm pretty comfortable posting my final mock. First if Thomas, Haden or Spiller drop I think they present too much value to pass on. But, I believe all three will be gone. With all of them gone...I believe it comes down to the best values left Iupati and Pouncey. A couple reasons I run with Pouncey. #1-He is ready now to start...I believe he could beat out Hartwig from day 1. #2 We have some young talent at Guard that I believe the Steelers could be ok with...let em fight it out. #3 We missed out on a Center in last years draft...I don't think we will make that mistake again.

Round Two-I think it will come down to Benn, Ghee, and Jackson. This is harder to predict. Of the three I think Ghee will have the best NFL career. I don't see Jackson as having more than a solid #2 type career at best. I believe Ghee could turn into something special. Ugh...Benn...seen alot of him. I'm not overwhelmed. His hands are average, route running a little better than average but he does possess some ability with the ball after the catch that would temp the Steelers. I would prefer to run with Shipley in the third personally. But, the Steelers haven't shown interest. I have to run with Ghee...it's even possible we might need to trade up to grab him.

So, here it goes...

1) Maurkice Pouncey-C
2) Brandon Ghee-DB
3) Navorro Bowman ILB
4) Mike Neal-DT
5) LeGarrette Blount-RB (I know...but a man can dream eh?)
5b) Nolan Carrol-DB
5c) Kam Chancellor-S
5d) Carlton Mitchell-WR
6) Pat Angerer-ILB
7) Clay Harbor-FB
7B) Adrian Tracy DE/LB
Thank goodness :lol: :lol:

Steel Life
04-19-2010, 12:30 AM
Kinda surprised Pouncey is the only O-lineman you have...

Shawn
04-19-2010, 01:20 AM
Kinda surprised Pouncey is the only O-lineman you have...

Really? The only OL position I see as dire is C. We have three solid starters in Starks, Kemo, and Colon. I actually like those three guys and I'm comfortable with them starting. We have Legursky, Urbik, Foster and Essex fighting out for that final spot.

MeetJoeGreene
04-19-2010, 12:38 PM
That is truly a well thought out mock draft that merits praise and compliments!

Jom112
04-19-2010, 12:51 PM
Carlton Mitchell in the 5th? As his unofficial hype man, I say there is no way he gets past the 3rd round...

Steel Life
04-19-2010, 05:23 PM
Kinda surprised Pouncey is the only O-lineman you have...

Really? The only OL position I see as dire is C. We have three solid starters in Starks, Kemo, and Colon. I actually like those three guys and I'm comfortable with them starting. We have Legursky, Urbik, Foster and Essex fighting out for that final spot.
I was thinking that a developmental LT is needed...but that's me. Also Harbor raised an eyebrow because I think he'll go sooner & isn't he more of an H-Back? Tracy is fine too, I just like Moats & Danny Batten a bit more. And Blount...well, we both know that they won't bring him here now, but tell me...his 40 time & slow 10-yard split doesn't scare you any?

Shawn
04-19-2010, 05:42 PM
[quote="Steel Life":14lxki0h]Kinda surprised Pouncey is the only O-lineman you have...

Really? The only OL position I see as dire is C. We have three solid starters in Starks, Kemo, and Colon. I actually like those three guys and I'm comfortable with them starting. We have Legursky, Urbik, Foster and Essex fighting out for that final spot.
I was thinking that a developmental LT is needed...but that's me. Also Harbor raised an eyebrow because I think he'll go sooner & isn't he more of an H-Back? Tracy is fine too, I just like Moats & Danny Batten a bit more. And Blount...well, we both know that they won't bring him here now, but tell me...his 40 time & slow 10-yard split doesn't scare you any?[/quote:14lxki0h]


Nah...I believe Harbor is more of a FB type. You could be right about a developmental LT. Blount's 40 doesn't scare me even a little. I have seen the guy run...beast...man amongst boys. I really like him. And no we wont draft him.

Steel Life
04-19-2010, 05:52 PM
[quote="Steel Life":mj02hjd1]Kinda surprised Pouncey is the only O-lineman you have...

Really? The only OL position I see as dire is C. We have three solid starters in Starks, Kemo, and Colon. I actually like those three guys and I'm comfortable with them starting. We have Legursky, Urbik, Foster and Essex fighting out for that final spot.
I was thinking that a developmental LT is needed...but that's me. Also Harbor raised an eyebrow because I think he'll go sooner & isn't he more of an H-Back? Tracy is fine too, I just like Moats & Danny Batten a bit more. And Blount...well, we both know that they won't bring him here now, but tell me...his 40 time & slow 10-yard split doesn't scare you any?


Nah...I believe Harbor is more of a FB type. You could be right about a developmental LT. Blount's 40 doesn't scare me even a little. I have seen the guy run...beast...man amongst boys. I really like him. And no we wont draft him.[/quote:mj02hjd1]
Okay...I just thought he was slow as molasses getting thru the line. Would you say he's like Brandon from the Giants? Anyway, in lieu of him, what other RB would you bring in & would it change your mock?

Shawn
04-19-2010, 07:12 PM
[quote=Shawn][quote="Steel Life":3vxd3of6]Kinda surprised Pouncey is the only O-lineman you have...

Really? The only OL position I see as dire is C. We have three solid starters in Starks, Kemo, and Colon. I actually like those three guys and I'm comfortable with them starting. We have Legursky, Urbik, Foster and Essex fighting out for that final spot.
I was thinking that a developmental LT is needed...but that's me. Also Harbor raised an eyebrow because I think he'll go sooner & isn't he more of an H-Back? Tracy is fine too, I just like Moats & Danny Batten a bit more. And Blount...well, we both know that they won't bring him here now, but tell me...his 40 time & slow 10-yard split doesn't scare you any?


Nah...I believe Harbor is more of a FB type. You could be right about a developmental LT. Blount's 40 doesn't scare me even a little. I have seen the guy run...beast...man amongst boys. I really like him. And no we wont draft him.[/quote:3vxd3of6]
Okay...I just thought he was slow as molasses getting thru the line. Would you say he's like Brandon from the Giants? Anyway, in lieu of him, what other RB would you bring in & would it change your mock?[/quote:3vxd3of6]

Honestly, the only guys I'm interested in are Gerhart, Blount and Spiller. Fbwise I would be interested in Harbor, and Conner...and that's only if they believe the Summers project was a flop.

I like Harbor alot. But, I think some of my round placement could be a little wishful. I had lots of guys I like. Harbor could go as high as the 3rd. This is what is said about him...

An athletic beast who can line up as a fullback, tight end or H-back and create matchup problems for a defense. As a receiver, he set the school record with 150 career catches, and his 1,906 yards rank third in school history. Harbor's 59 catches for 729 yards and four touchdowns in his senior year reflected his ability to get open in zones and stretch the field. His blocking has improved each year, so he can be a significant block-or-catch weapon as an H-back. His explosion was demonstrated at the combine when he soared 40 inches in the vertical jump. And his strength was quantified when he bench-pressed 225 pounds 30 times."

pfelix73
04-19-2010, 07:52 PM
My 2 cents-

I don't like the mock- sorry. Pouncey at 18 is just a waste. IMO. Replace your first 2 picks with Haden/Thomas/ Wilson and your 2nd round with say a OT or maybe even Linval Joseph if hes still there. If you really want a C then maybe look at the boy from BC. Personally, I'd be looking at OT in there- maybe 2nd round instead of a C. I like Legursky as our future C. The numbers just don't jive. Too many bodies already on the OL that have experience. A OT would compete with Hills for the last spot and Colon's got some issues- agent wise and wanting more $.
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Shawn
04-19-2010, 08:27 PM
My 2 cents-

I don't like the mock- sorry. Pouncey at 18 is just a waste. IMO. Replace your first 2 picks with Haden/Thomas/ Wilson and your 2nd round with say a OT or maybe even Linval Joseph if hes still there. If you really want a C then maybe look at the boy from BC. Personally, I'd be looking at OT in there- maybe 2nd round instead of a C. I like Legursky as our future C. The numbers just don't jive. Too many bodies already on the OL that have experience. A OT would compete with Hills for the last spot and Colon's got some issues- agent wise and wanting more $.
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Haden and Thomas will likely be gone...Wilson has character issues. If you read my precurser you would have seen the reasoning for picking Pouncey. If Haden or Thomas are there...they are no brainers.

pfelix73
04-19-2010, 08:31 PM
I disagree on the character issues with Wilson. He's really been moving up the boards and have impressed a lot of scouts- from what I'm reading anyways.

It's just me, but I'd take Wilson over Iupati or Pouncey at 18. Just my opinion. Can't wait til Thursday to see what really happens. Watch- we'll all be totally wrong.
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Shawn
04-19-2010, 08:40 PM
I disagree on the character issues with Wilson. He's really been moving up the boards and have impressed a lot of scouts- from what I'm reading anyways.

It's just me, but I'd take Wilson over Iupati or Pouncey at 18. Just my opinion. Can't wait til Thursday to see what really happens. Watch- we'll all be totally wrong.
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I think Wilson will be a very good DB...I have heard varying things about his character. With that said, Wilson's side was never thrown to. The #2 Db for Boise was always a young pup. Teams tended to pick on other DBs. Could have been superb respect or we might not know how he really matches up against top notch talent.

I think Wilson is on the Steelers radar but I think they roll with Pouncey unless Haden or Thomas are there.