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AkronSteel
04-09-2010, 07:13 PM
ESPN.com news services

Roethlisberger

Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will not be charged after an investigation into accusations of sexual assault by a 20-year-old woman in Georgia, sources told ESPN.

Sources confirmed to ESPN's Kelly Naqi that District Attorney Fred Bright will announce on Monday that charges will not be brought against Roethlisberger. Bright said in a statement Friday he has reviewed all the investigation reports and will hold a news conference at 2 p.m. ET Monday.

Milledgeville police Chief Woodrow Blue said Wednesday his department and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation had wrapped up their investigation into a 20-year-old college student's claim that Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her early March 5 at a club in Milledgeville.

It was the second time in a year that Roethlisberger has been accused of sexual misconduct. He also faces a lawsuit filed last July by a woman who says he raped her in 2008 at a Lake Tahoe hotel and casino, an allegation he denies. Roethlisberger has not been criminally charged in either case and has claimed counter-damages in the lawsuit.

Roethlisberger did not report to Pittsburgh's offseason workouts last month. The next critical day for players is April 19, when on-field practice starts. Most of the team is expected to be on hand then.

Thank Goodness.....now can we please keep Ben out of the bars!

birtikidis
04-09-2010, 07:24 PM
I think this thread should stay on this page until after the press conference on monday.

SteelBucks
04-09-2010, 07:31 PM
I think this thread should stay on this page until after the press conference on monday.
:Agree

AkronSteel
04-09-2010, 07:32 PM
I think this thread should stay on this page until after the press conference on monday.
:Agree

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frankthetank1
04-09-2010, 07:33 PM
thank god hopefully this is really true. seems legit to me though. we dodged a huge bullet that is for sure.

birtikidis
04-09-2010, 07:44 PM
both Trey Wingo and Adam Schefter of ESPN reported this via twitter. also the NFL north blog on ESPN reported this via twitter. seems pretty legit to me.

NW Steeler
04-09-2010, 07:44 PM
If they are going to leak the info, then why wait until Monday? If this is true, what a huge relief for us fans, but imagine how Ben feels!

hawaiiansteel
04-09-2010, 07:47 PM
:tt1 :tt2 :Clap :Boobs

Roger Cossack (the attorney on ESPN) said there were some inconsistencies in the accuser's story...

Shawn
04-09-2010, 07:48 PM
BlackJack, Dizz and BigRob must be destroyed right now. :lol:

Vindrow
04-09-2010, 07:49 PM
This can't be true.....all the lawyers on this board said that he would be charged, and they can't be wrong.

hawaiiansteel
04-09-2010, 07:57 PM
This can't be true.....all the lawyers on this board said that he would be charged, and they can't be wrong.



it didn't matter what the naysayers said, i have said all along that Ben will not be charged...

and i am never wrong! (unless you believe anything my wife says, of course) :lol:

Jom112
04-09-2010, 08:31 PM
both Trey Wingo and Adam Schefter of ESPN reported this via twitter. also the NFL north blog on ESPN reported this via twitter. seems pretty legit to me.

Anytime Schefter puts his name behind a story, it's true. Even though it's someone else's opionion he's sharing he says he believes the source. Since following his twitter account for a while now, he hasn't been wrong yet. Mainly because he verifies and does his due diligence before reporting...

BURGH86STEEL
04-09-2010, 08:40 PM
Let us hope it is true. Let us also hope that Ben learns to stay out of bad situations and watch the company he keeps. He can still face a suspension by the Steelers or the league. He also faces the possibility of a civil suit.

StarSpangledSteeler
04-09-2010, 08:51 PM
I don't know how to post links. Hope this works...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5071769

birtikidis
04-09-2010, 09:16 PM
both Trey Wingo and Adam Schefter of ESPN reported this via twitter. also the NFL north blog on ESPN reported this via twitter. seems pretty legit to me.

Anytime Schefter puts his name behind a story, it's true. Even though it's someone else's opionion he's sharing he says he believes the source. Since following his twitter account for a while now, he hasn't been wrong yet. Mainly because he verifies and does his due diligence before reporting...
absolutely, that's why i posted that he said it. guy is obsessed with facts! love it.

stlrz d
04-09-2010, 09:20 PM
Another bad day for the haters? :lol:

SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-09-2010, 09:46 PM
This is nice news, confirmation at the presser Monday afternoon would be GREAT news.

Anyone know - can charges be brought at any time later the DA decides it's the right thing to do? I don't think that's "double jeapordy", is it?

Meaning ... how long does Ben have to keep looking over his shoulder? Meaning ... would it really be over forever?

Thanks -

Ozey74
04-09-2010, 09:50 PM
Anytime Schefter puts his name behind a story, it's true.


Word! He's the second comming of Bob Costas.

papillon
04-09-2010, 09:53 PM
That would be good news for the Steeler faithful, hopefully, that's how it shakes out.

:Beer :Beer

Pappy

Ozey74
04-09-2010, 09:54 PM
This is nice news, confirmation at the presser Monday afternoon would be GREAT news.

Anyone know - can charges be brought at any time later the DA decides it's the right thing to do? I don't think that's "double jeapordy", is it?

Meaning ... how long does Ben have to keep looking over his shoulder? Meaning ... would it really be over forever?

Thanks -


Ben needs to be looking over his shoulder at all times. And he also needs to stop going into college bars. If this doesn't wake Ben up, nothing will. Nobody has seen Ben in 5 weeks. When we do see him again, it would be nice to see him with a haircut & about 20 pounds lighter that what he looked like the night of 3/5.

NJ-STEELER
04-09-2010, 09:56 PM
Let us hope it is true. Let us also hope that Ben learns to stay out of bad situations and watch the company he keeps. He can still face a suspension by the Steelers or the league. He also faces the possibility of a civil suit.

i believe it was shefter (or another football guy) on espn that said braylon edwards had something similiar happen to him last year and there was no suspension from the league.


and they brought up the possibility of the steelers themselves of possibly giving him some discipiliary action like they did with santonio 2 years ago.


hopefully ART II suspends him for the 1st preseason game

Herewegosteelers!
04-09-2010, 10:05 PM
Let's hope so, so we can look forward to next season! If this is true, Ben can't put himself in this situation again or he will be an ex-Steeler...

NorthCoast
04-09-2010, 10:05 PM
thank god hopefully this is really true. seems legit to me though. we dodged a huge bullet that is for sure.

Umm, we didn't dodge anything. Ben dodged a bullet...really hope he learned some lessons from this one. Just like with Tiger, sometimes money makes you believe you are more than you really are.

pfelix73
04-09-2010, 10:11 PM
Sounds like great news.. I had a feeling they didn't have a case, or he would've been arrested a long time ago.

Time to move past this and get on with the draft. I guess this means no Tim Tebow with the #18 pick- bummer.
:tt1

Dee Dub
04-09-2010, 10:21 PM
I said here weeks ago that there was no case. No witness, no physical evidence, and no video evidence. That means no case.

:Cheers

feltdizz
04-09-2010, 10:21 PM
BlackJack, Dizz and BigRob must be destroyed right now. :lol:

I'm disgusted! :HeadBanger I paid all that money to get that girl drunk and set Ben up for this and this is how I'm repaid? Damn... I was looking forward to a season without Ben so Dixon could show the world how he could win 14 games in a row and win 2 SB's. :roll:

feltdizz
04-09-2010, 10:25 PM
This is nice news, confirmation at the presser Monday afternoon would be GREAT news.

Anyone know - can charges be brought at any time later the DA decides it's the right thing to do? I don't think that's "double jeapordy", is it?

Meaning ... how long does Ben have to keep looking over his shoulder? Meaning ... would it really be over forever?

Thanks -


Ben needs to be looking over his shoulder at all times. And he also needs to stop going into college bars. If this doesn't wake Ben up, nothing will. Nobody has seen Ben in 5 weeks. When we do see him again, it would be nice to see him with a haircut & about 20 pounds lighter that what he looked like the night of 3/5.

uhhhhhh Ben wasn't charged so he is free to do as he pleases. He owes us and the Steelers nothing off the field. :stirpot

hawaiiansteel
04-09-2010, 10:28 PM
I said here weeks ago that there was no case. No witness, no physical evidence, and no video evidence. That means no case.

:Cheers



word is that the accusing woman had some inconsistencies in the statements that she made to the police.

hawaiiansteel
04-09-2010, 10:59 PM
If Roethlisberger isn't charged, he could still face league or team discipline

Posted by Mike Florio on April 9, 2010


Our pal Brooks of SportsByBrooks.com has dissected various flaws arising from ESPN's rush to report that Ocmulgee (Ga.) Judicial Circuit District Attorney Fred Bright will announce Monday that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger won't be charged with sexual assault. But Brooks ultimately concludes, and we agree, that ESPN wouldn't go with this story if the reporters had the tiniest sliver of doubt regarding its accuracy.

If that's what Bright announces on Monday -- that Roethlisberger won't be charged -- the matter won't be completely closed. Roethlisberger still could be sued, pursuant to the much lower standard of proof applicable to civil suits.

More importantly (as it relates to his NFL career), Roethlisberger could face discipline from the league or from the team.

The NFL could impose a penalty under the Personal Conduct Policy, even without a criminal prosecution. "While criminal activity is clearly outside the scope of permissible conduct," the Personal Conduct Policy reads, "and persons who engage in criminal activity will be subject to discipline, the standard of conduct for persons employed in the NFL is considerably higher. It is not simply enough to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful." (Emphasis in original.)

The Personal Conduct Policy then lists the various circumstances in which discipline may be imposed. The first two items specifically mention "criminal offenses." Later, the list includes "[c]onduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players." An easy case can be made that, even without charges, Roethlisberger's reportedly admitted conduct -- sexual contact with a 20-year-old girl in the bathroom stall of a nightclub -- "undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation" of the league, its teams, and its players.

That said, the Personal Conduct Policy contains some potentially conflicting language regarding the issue of discipline. "Unless the case involves significant bodily harm," the document states, "a first offense will generally not result in discipline until there has been a disposition of the proceeding." This sentence strongly implies that, for a first offense, the player won't be disciplined absent the filing of criminal charges.

It's possible that, in Roethlisberger's case, the league will regard the Nevada incident as a first offense, and thus treat the Georgia incident as a second offense. The problem, of course, is that it's impossible for the league to conclude whether either incident constitutes an "offense" unless the league has conducted its own investigation.

As a result, we tend to think that, despite language suggesting that punishment can be imposed without criminal charges or an arrest, the league will be reluctant to go down that path, unless Roethlisberger would ultimately lose the civil case in Nevada and then lose the separate civil case (if one filed) in Georgia.

Of course, that won't stop the team from taking action. In an effort to commence the process of reclaiming a reputation of good behavior, the Steelers could choose to impose a short suspension (one or two games) for conduct detrimental to the team. Roethlisberger could fight the suspension with the assistance of the union, and unlike league-imposed suspensions Roethlisberger would be entitled to have the matter reviewed by an independent arbitrator. That said, Roethlisberger's long-term interests likely would be best served by taking whatever punishment the Rooneys mete out, to be glad that he avoided an outcome that could have been much worse, and to avoid moving forward any circumstances that could give rise to similar allegations.

Again, all of this assumes that he won't be charged. If the ESPN report is indeed accurate, we expect others to be "confirming" it over the weekend.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... iscipline/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/09/if-roethlisberger-isnt-charged-he-could-still-face-league-or-team-discipline/)

Shawn
04-09-2010, 11:03 PM
This is nice news, confirmation at the presser Monday afternoon would be GREAT news.

Anyone know - can charges be brought at any time later the DA decides it's the right thing to do? I don't think that's "double jeapordy", is it?

Meaning ... how long does Ben have to keep looking over his shoulder? Meaning ... would it really be over forever?

Thanks -

No that would not be double jeapordy. That would only pertain to a trial. You can't try someone for the same crime twice. The DA has the ability to bring charges 7 years after the infraction which is the statute of limitations. If any new evidence arises then he could bring charges at that time.

Shawn
04-09-2010, 11:04 PM
BlackJack, Dizz and BigRob must be destroyed right now. :lol:

I'm disgusted! :HeadBanger I paid all that money to get that girl drunk and set Ben up for this and this is how I'm repaid? Damn... I was looking forward to a season without Ben so Dixon could show the world how he could win 14 games in a row and win 2 SB's. :roll:

I knew you were behind all of this Dizz. :D

Ozey74
04-09-2010, 11:06 PM
This is nice news, confirmation at the presser Monday afternoon would be GREAT news.

Anyone know - can charges be brought at any time later the DA decides it's the right thing to do? I don't think that's "double jeapordy", is it?

Meaning ... how long does Ben have to keep looking over his shoulder? Meaning ... would it really be over forever?

Thanks -


Ben needs to be looking over his shoulder at all times. And he also needs to stop going into college bars. If this doesn't wake Ben up, nothing will. Nobody has seen Ben in 5 weeks. When we do see him again, it would be nice to see him with a haircut & about 20 pounds lighter that what he looked like the night of 3/5.

uhhhhhh Ben wasn't charged so he is free to do as he pleases. He owes us and the Steelers nothing off the field. :stirpot


If Ben was a factory worker I'd agree with you. He is a NFL player with a 100 million dollar contract and he owes the Steelers plenty off the field (he owes us nothing). Like it or not, he needs to be aware of what he does off the field.

Shawn
04-09-2010, 11:09 PM
I said here weeks ago that there was no case. No witness, no physical evidence, and no video evidence. That means no case.

:Cheers



word is that the accusing woman had some inconsistencies in the statements that she made to the police.

Thats a shocker considering she was a .2 hours after her last drink.

SteelerNation1
04-10-2010, 12:02 AM
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fordfixer
04-10-2010, 12:12 AM
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grotonsteel
04-10-2010, 02:17 AM
Great news.... :tt2

RuthlessBurgher
04-10-2010, 06:37 AM
Sounds like great news.. I had a feeling they didn't have a case, or he would've been arrested a long time ago.

Time to move past this and get on with the draft. I guess this means no Tim Tebow with the #18 pick- bummer.
:tt1

No Tebow? Why No Tebow?

Watkins from Accounting picked Tebow.

:P

Discipline of Steel
04-10-2010, 07:20 AM
Apparently, not everyone has heard the news. The felon stigma may be linger even though no charges will be brought, and no conviction ever returned.

Unlike his ESPN counterpart Mel Kiper, who maintains a Weis-ian level of infatuation with Clausen, McShay has no temerity when it comes to questioning Clausen's off-field issues. His maturity, or lack thereof. Then again, the Pittsburgh Steelers have won two Super Bowls in the past half-decade with a quarterback who is currently fighting his second sexual assault allegation in the past three years. Do off-field issues -- and granted, the ones that Ben Roethlisberger have been involved in are far more grave not to mention felonious than anything with which Clausen has been associated -- matter to an NFL general manager eager to garner a Vince Lombardi Trophy?

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/04/09/jimm ... r-pro-day/ (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/04/09/jimmy-clausen-stock-rises-after-pro-day/)

proudpittsburgher
04-10-2010, 09:39 AM
Open letter to Ben Roethlisberger:
I'll start off by saying I wish this report is true, and we get you back. I also hope you drop the numbskull routine and learn something from this, somethign that you didn't learn the first time around. Ben, it isn't fair that you are going to be targeted like this for the rest of your playing days. No, it isn't fair that you can't go out and party like you should be able to because of the target on your back. But, you should be able to deal with this, since you are a friggen millionaire. I don't know you personally, and I irrationally worship your game on the football field, but please just leave this crap behind you and start new. You want to have parties, host them at your house, and please review the guest list. Have fun, hell, have a blast, have the girl of your choosing, after all you are not married, you should be able to do who you want, but make sure she isn't going to turn around and sue your arse and drag your name through the mud, 'k? I am proud of your game on the field, I hang my head in shame at your game off of it. You don't play for the Bengals or the Raiders, you play for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and along with the Colts, Packers, Patriots* and a couple of other teams, that means more than just playing on the field. I can't friggen wait for all of this to be over, and for you to lead the offense onto the field, because you are the epitome of the word leader on it, but you have a ways to go as a leader off of it. Let's just get this behind you, so the only thing to argue about on message boards from doufases like me is who's better to lead this team, you or Dennis Dixon. :lol:

SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-10-2010, 09:44 AM
This is nice news, confirmation at the presser Monday afternoon would be GREAT news.

Anyone know - can charges be brought at any time later the DA decides it's the right thing to do? I don't think that's "double jeapordy", is it?

Meaning ... how long does Ben have to keep looking over his shoulder? Meaning ... would it really be over forever?

Thanks -

No that would not be double jeapordy. That would only pertain to a trial. You can't try someone for the same crime twice. The DA has the ability to bring charges 7 years after the infraction which is the statute of limitations. If any new evidence arises then he could bring charges at that time.

Yes, but can he bring charges at some point later WITHOUT new evidence? For any reason he states is valid?

BradshawsHairdresser
04-10-2010, 09:50 AM
Shouldn't this thread be moved to the "Around the NFL" page? :lol: :lol: :lol:

stlrz d
04-10-2010, 09:57 AM
Open letter to Ben Roethlisberger:
I'll start off by saying I wish this report is true, and we get you back. I also hope you drop the numbskull routine and learn something from this, somethign that you didn't learn the first time around. Ben, it isn't fair that you are going to be targeted like this for the rest of your playing days. No, it isn't fair that you can't go out and party like you should be able to because of the target on your back. But, you should be able to deal with this, since you are a friggen millionaire. I don't know you personally, and I irrationally worship your game on the football field, but please just leave this crap behind you and start new. You want to have parties, host them at your house, and please review the guest list. Have fun, hell, have a blast, have the girl of your choosing, after all you are not married, you should be able to do who you want, but make sure she isn't going to turn around and sue your arse and drag your name through the mud, 'k? I am proud of your game on the field, I hang my head in shame at your game off of it. You don't play for the Bengals or the Raiders, you play for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and along with the Colts, Packers, Patriots* and a couple of other teams, that means more than just playing on the field. I can't friggen wait for all of this to be over, and for you to lead the offense onto the field, because you are the epitome of the word leader on it, but you have a ways to go as a leader off of it. Let's just get this behind you, so the only thing to argue about on message boards from doufases like me is who's better to lead this team, you or Dennis Dixon. :lol:

That doesn't mean a pinch of sheeit. It still isn't going to stop someone from accusing him of something if they want to.

SteelAbility
04-10-2010, 10:40 AM
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SteelAbility
04-10-2010, 10:42 AM
Good news and in atimely manner for the mock drafts to update. ;)

frankthetank1
04-10-2010, 10:46 AM
Sounds like great news.. I had a feeling they didn't have a case, or he would've been arrested a long time ago.

Time to move past this and get on with the draft. I guess this means no Tim Tebow with the #18 pick- bummer.
:tt1

No Tebow? Why No Tebow?

Watkins from Accounting picked Tebow.

:P

haha how bout coco? :lol:

ANPSTEEL
04-10-2010, 11:30 AM
Sounds like great news.. I had a feeling they didn't have a case, or he would've been arrested a long time ago.

Time to move past this and get on with the draft. I guess this means no Tim Tebow with the #18 pick- bummer.
:tt1

No Tebow? Why No Tebow?

Watkins from Accounting picked Tebow.

:P

haha how bout coco? :lol:

nah, coco didn't but Tbone has him going @ 10 to Jacksonville.

Shawn
04-10-2010, 12:21 PM
This is nice news, confirmation at the presser Monday afternoon would be GREAT news.

Anyone know - can charges be brought at any time later the DA decides it's the right thing to do? I don't think that's "double jeapordy", is it?

Meaning ... how long does Ben have to keep looking over his shoulder? Meaning ... would it really be over forever?

Thanks -

No that would not be double jeapordy. That would only pertain to a trial. You can't try someone for the same crime twice. The DA has the ability to bring charges 7 years after the infraction which is the statute of limitations. If any new evidence arises then he could bring charges at that time.

Yes, but can he bring charges at some point later WITHOUT new evidence? For any reason he states is valid?

I would think so but why would he? If there isn't enough evidence now...no new evidence arises...no need to press charges. That would actually make him look incompetent.

Now, if you have a little conspiracy theorist in you...you might be thinking...hmm. Maybe the DA has a gambling problem. Maybe the Steelers make the playoffs, SB this season. And maybe the DA places a very large bet (through friends of course) on the Steelers opponent. Then he announces charges...at the very least shaking Ben...at very worst getting Ben instasuspended. :shock: :lol:

costanza2k1
04-10-2010, 12:47 PM
Shouldn't this thread be moved to the "Around the NFL" page? :lol: :lol: :lol:


If we get 315 different threads on the same topic then it will be. :lol:

Steelgal
04-10-2010, 12:54 PM
Excellent news to start my weekend!!! I was hoping the decision would be 'leaked' one way or the other.

So.... no more worrying about what the verdict is, got my 12 mile run in already today, and the kids are working outside. GREAT day so far :wink:

SteelHead
04-10-2010, 01:14 PM
Feels good to know he may have avoided a career changing situation but I'll feel even better if this is confirmed on Monday. Crossing my fingers until then.

That being said , even if Ben is my favorite player....I'd support the FO as a fan if they decided to go in a different direction should something like this happen again.

Enough with the reckless behavior Ben. Sheesh. :HeadBanger

Let's go win some games !!!!
:tt2

Lebsteel
04-10-2010, 02:00 PM
Excellent news to start my weekend!!! I was hoping the decision would be 'leaked' one way or the other.

So.... no more worrying about what the verdict is, got my 12 mile run in already today, and the kids are working outside. GREAT day so far :wink:
Wow, Steelgal, 12 mile run, that's impressive....I felt good after my 16 mile bike ride :oops:

Shawn
04-10-2010, 02:34 PM
Excellent news to start my weekend!!! I was hoping the decision would be 'leaked' one way or the other.

So.... no more worrying about what the verdict is, got my 12 mile run in already today, and the kids are working outside. GREAT day so far :wink:
Wow, Steelgal, 12 mile run, that's impressive....I felt good after my 16 mile bike ride :oops:

Shoot, I feel pretty good right after my walk to the fridge to grab some sour cream for my doritos. :D

proudpittsburgher
04-10-2010, 02:37 PM
Open letter to Ben Roethlisberger:
I'll start off by saying I wish this report is true, and we get you back. I also hope you drop the numbskull routine and learn something from this, somethign that you didn't learn the first time around. Ben, it isn't fair that you are going to be targeted like this for the rest of your playing days. No, it isn't fair that you can't go out and party like you should be able to because of the target on your back. But, you should be able to deal with this, since you are a friggen millionaire. I don't know you personally, and I irrationally worship your game on the football field, but please just leave this crap behind you and start new. You want to have parties, host them at your house, and please review the guest list. Have fun, hell, have a blast, have the girl of your choosing, after all you are not married, you should be able to do who you want, but make sure she isn't going to turn around and sue your arse and drag your name through the mud, 'k? I am proud of your game on the field, I hang my head in shame at your game off of it. You don't play for the Bengals or the Raiders, you play for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and along with the Colts, Packers, Patriots* and a couple of other teams, that means more than just playing on the field. I can't friggen wait for all of this to be over, and for you to lead the offense onto the field, because you are the epitome of the word leader on it, but you have a ways to go as a leader off of it. Let's just get this behind you, so the only thing to argue about on message boards from doufases like me is who's better to lead this team, you or Dennis Dixon. :lol:

That doesn't mean a pinch of sheeit. It still isn't going to stop someone from accusing him of something if they want to.

Well, I didn;t want to suggest he take a vow of celebacy, that would be cruel, but I suppose you are right.

Steelgal
04-10-2010, 03:03 PM
Excellent news to start my weekend!!! I was hoping the decision would be 'leaked' one way or the other.

So.... no more worrying about what the verdict is, got my 12 mile run in already today, and the kids are working outside. GREAT day so far :wink:
Wow, Steelgal, 12 mile run, that's impressive....I felt good after my 16 mile bike ride :oops:

I've got my first half marathon a month from today.....so that's why. Never ran this far before in my life, even in my younger days. A 16 mile bike ride is impressive as well :tt1

birtikidis
04-10-2010, 03:12 PM
Excellent news to start my weekend!!! I was hoping the decision would be 'leaked' one way or the other.

So.... no more worrying about what the verdict is, got my 12 mile run in already today, and the kids are working outside. GREAT day so far :wink:
Wow, Steelgal, 12 mile run, that's impressive....I felt good after my 16 mile bike ride :oops:

I've got my first half marathon a month from today.....so that's why. Never ran this far before in my life, even in my younger days. A 16 mile bike ride is impressive as well :tt1
I'm so F'n jealous! I haven't really been able to run since august of 08 because of a car accident... I'm having back surgery on the 6th of may... so hopefully that will help. to put it in persepective, the day before the accident I ran almost 5 miles and had bench pressed 395.. now i haven't been able to work out like that since!!!

Steelgal
04-10-2010, 06:19 PM
Excellent news to start my weekend!!! I was hoping the decision would be 'leaked' one way or the other.

So.... no more worrying about what the verdict is, got my 12 mile run in already today, and the kids are working outside. GREAT day so far :wink:
Wow, Steelgal, 12 mile run, that's impressive....I felt good after my 16 mile bike ride :oops:

I've got my first half marathon a month from today.....so that's why. Never ran this far before in my life, even in my younger days. A 16 mile bike ride is impressive as well :tt1
I'm so F'n jealous! I haven't really been able to run since august of 08 because of a car accident... I'm having back surgery on the 6th of may... so hopefully that will help. to put it in persepective, the day before the accident I ran almost 5 miles and had bench pressed 395.. now i haven't been able to work out like that since!!!

Sorry to hear about your accident. Hopefully your surgery will fix everything and you'll be able to start back up. I admit, I never thought running could actually become addictive. I'm starting to think about training for a full marathon, if this goes well.

birtikidis
04-10-2010, 06:42 PM
I love the endorphin rush when i run (runners high). but it's nothing compared to the PUMP you get when I lift.
my old gym in gainesville (GHFC) was a great place to work out. one day I was feeling particularly badass. i had just set a record for repping 225... and lo and behold, there was Jevon Kearse (he lives in gainesville in the offseason) and he was repping 415 like it was nothing... so that brought me down a little bit.
One of our assistant football coaches that I coached with for a while was Mo Mitchell, the old tackle for the gators (he played for the giants and the raiders too), and he routinely made me feel like i was a weakling.
another funny story, we went to the bar for Mo's birthday and I was by far the smallest guy there (i'm 6'1 and about 240). But ALL of Mo's buddies were there... Jonathan Colon (i think that is how you spell his name), Ben Troupe, Gerard Warren, Alex Brown... it was crazy. I felt like a little kid.

Djfan
04-10-2010, 07:13 PM
Excellent news to start my weekend!!! I was hoping the decision would be 'leaked' one way or the other.

So.... no more worrying about what the verdict is, got my 12 mile run in already today, and the kids are working outside. GREAT day so far :wink:
Wow, Steelgal, 12 mile run, that's impressive....I felt good after my 16 mile bike ride :oops:

Shoot, I feel pretty good right after my walk to the fridge to grab some sour cream for my doritos. :D

I fly fished a dozen or so spots along 12 miles of the Poudre River this morning. I wish the trout had set an appointment for that!

Sugar
04-10-2010, 08:05 PM
This will be great if confirmed. I just wish that there was some recourse Ben had against the girl for this. His reputation has been irrepairably damaged due to this and it could cost him millions of dollars in potential endorsements.

I'm pretty sick of all the speculation on this. So far, I have no reason to believe that Ben did anything wrong. I'll be interested to hear what's revealed at the press conference.

fezziwig
04-10-2010, 10:31 PM
I wonder if these people that do the investigations or will or will not press charges allow their bias fan opinion to sway their findings ?

papillon
04-11-2010, 08:06 AM
Here's hoping that the news that Ben will not be charged is true. :Cheers

However, I have a question or maybe it's the cynical side of me:

If a DA is going to announce that there are no charges, would he/she call a presser for a non-event?

Phillyesq or any other attorney here at PS your insight would indeed be welcomed.

Pappy

stlrz d
04-11-2010, 09:54 AM
Here's hoping that the news that Ben will not be charged is true. :Cheers

However, I have a question or maybe it's the cynical side of me:

If a DA is going to announce that there are no charges, would he/she call a presser for a non-event?

Phillyesq or any other attorney here at PS your insight would indeed be welcomed.

Pappy

It's big news...people are going to want to know. Plus, for the accusation there was a presser that got Ben's name smeared all over the place...it's only fair they have a presser to clear him as well.

SteelAbility
04-11-2010, 01:08 PM
Here's hoping that the news that Ben will not be charged is true. :Cheers

However, I have a question or maybe it's the cynical side of me:

If a DA is going to announce that there are no charges, would he/she call a presser for a non-event?

Phillyesq or any other attorney here at PS your insight would indeed be welcomed.

Pappy

It's big news...people are going to want to know. Plus, for the aaccusation there was a presser that got Ben's name smeared all over the place...it's only fair they have a presser to clear him as well.

It's not up to you or anyone else to decide how the DA should handle this. He is under no obligation to Ben. ;)

NorthCoast
04-11-2010, 03:28 PM
Open letter to Ben Roethlisberger:
I'll start off by saying I wish this report is true, and we get you back. I also hope you drop the numbskull routine and learn something from this, somethign that you didn't learn the first time around. Ben, it isn't fair that you are going to be targeted like this for the rest of your playing days. No, it isn't fair that you can't go out and party like you should be able to because of the target on your back. But, you should be able to deal with this, since you are a friggen millionaire. I don't know you personally, and I irrationally worship your game on the football field, but please just leave this crap behind you and start new. You want to have parties, host them at your house, and please review the guest list. Have fun, hell, have a blast, have the girl of your choosing, after all you are not married, you should be able to do who you want, but make sure she isn't going to turn around and sue your arse and drag your name through the mud, 'k? I am proud of your game on the field, I hang my head in shame at your game off of it. You don't play for the Bengals or the Raiders, you play for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and along with the Colts, Packers, Patriots* and a couple of other teams, that means more than just playing on the field. I can't friggen wait for all of this to be over, and for you to lead the offense onto the field, because you are the epitome of the word leader on it, but you have a ways to go as a leader off of it. Let's just get this behind you, so the only thing to argue about on message boards from doufases like me is who's better to lead this team, you or Dennis Dixon. :lol:

That doesn't mean a pinch of sheeit. It still isn't going to stop someone from accusing him of something if they want to.

No, you are right. He needs to go one step further, party at this house but VIDEO TAPE EVERYTHING...even in the bedroom. It's the one way he can trap the g-diggers.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-11-2010, 06:18 PM
Open letter to Ben Roethlisberger:
I'll start off by saying I wish this report is true, and we get you back. I also hope you drop the numbskull routine and learn something from this, somethign that you didn't learn the first time around. Ben, it isn't fair that you are going to be targeted like this for the rest of your playing days. No, it isn't fair that you can't go out and party like you should be able to because of the target on your back. But, you should be able to deal with this, since you are a friggen millionaire. I don't know you personally, and I irrationally worship your game on the football field, but please just leave this crap behind you and start new. You want to have parties, host them at your house, and please review the guest list. Have fun, hell, have a blast, have the girl of your choosing, after all you are not married, you should be able to do who you want, but make sure she isn't going to turn around and sue your arse and drag your name through the mud, 'k? I am proud of your game on the field, I hang my head in shame at your game off of it. You don't play for the Bengals or the Raiders, you play for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and along with the Colts, Packers, Patriots* and a couple of other teams, that means more than just playing on the field. I can't friggen wait for all of this to be over, and for you to lead the offense onto the field, because you are the epitome of the word leader on it, but you have a ways to go as a leader off of it. Let's just get this behind you, so the only thing to argue about on message boards from doufases like me is who's better to lead this team, you or Dennis Dixon. :lol:

That doesn't mean a pinch of sheeit. It still isn't going to stop someone from accusing him of something if they want to.

No, you are right. He needs to go one step further, party at this house but VIDEO TAPE EVERYTHING...even in the bedroom. It's the one way he can trap the g-diggers.

OK - I don't know why I'm doing this for you guys, you have always given me the short end of the stick, and really have been irrationally adversarial where I've been concerned over the years. But it's clear you Steeler fans are hurting, and in the spirit of charity, I'm going to let you in on a secret.

It was bound to come out, all of us NFL superstar studs have known that, so it may as well be now. Haven't you ever wondered how all of us studs never get the "Roethlisberger treatment" from all the gold diggers in the world? How we stay out of the headlines and police blotters?

Well the answer is ... we're all EUNUCHS. Yes, all it took was a quick visit to the NFL-endorsed Dr. Snippems and we are free from the distractions from all the college coeds, TV fixers, light bulb changers, pole dancers and the other fillies of the world that would compete for our attention. We have traded our sexuality for freedom from lawsuits, and it is so worth it. It helps us concentrate on our playbook and study more too! Ben is the 1st stud that has come along in a long time that has refused the NFL deal (endorsements out the wazoo, "extra" ESPN coverage, and guaranteed Madden slobber coverage), and look what that got him - 2 sexual assault charges in 9 months, and as you point out in this forum of yours, it's not exactly like he's well known for extra time in the film room, is it :wink: ?

So, consider this tip an early Christmas to you guys - we encourage Steeler Nation to email Ben, Twitter him, whatever - let him know it's not such a small price to pay, and the immediate pain goes away really quickly, and there's really NO OTHER WAY to avoid getting slammed by the gold-digging hoagers of the world.

Besides, it's not fair that we had to do it, but he didn't.

Signed - Tom, and also for Eli, Peyton, Drew, and Phil

steelblood
04-12-2010, 09:33 AM
Here's hoping that the news that Ben will not be charged is true. :Cheers

However, I have a question or maybe it's the cynical side of me:

If a DA is going to announce that there are no charges, would he/she call a presser for a non-event?

Phillyesq or any other attorney here at PS your insight would indeed be welcomed.

Pappy

It's big news...people are going to want to know. Plus, for the accusation there was a presser that got Ben's name smeared all over the place...it's only fair they have a presser to clear him as well.

It is big news. But, there will be no discussion of clearing Ben's name. In fact, the DA will likely say there is not enough evidence to prosecute which will in no way exonerate him and will leave some lingering questions about what really happened. The DA will not say he is innocent in any way, shape, or form. Most people will assume that he still did something wrong.

Ghost
04-12-2010, 11:44 AM
Excellent news to start my weekend!!! I was hoping the decision would be 'leaked' one way or the other.

So.... no more worrying about what the verdict is, got my 12 mile run in already today, and the kids are working outside. GREAT day so far :wink:
Wow, Steelgal, 12 mile run, that's impressive....I felt good after my 16 mile bike ride :oops:

I've got my first half marathon a month from today.....so that's why. Never ran this far before in my life, even in my younger days. A 16 mile bike ride is impressive as well :tt1

Got a time goal in mind? Best of luck. Which half are you running? I've got my 14th 1/2 marathon this coming Saturday.

Steelgal
04-12-2010, 11:54 AM
Excellent news to start my weekend!!! I was hoping the decision would be 'leaked' one way or the other.

So.... no more worrying about what the verdict is, got my 12 mile run in already today, and the kids are working outside. GREAT day so far :wink:
Wow, Steelgal, 12 mile run, that's impressive....I felt good after my 16 mile bike ride :oops:

I've got my first half marathon a month from today.....so that's why. Never ran this far before in my life, even in my younger days. A 16 mile bike ride is impressive as well :tt1

Got a time goal in mind? Best of luck. Which half are you running? I've got my 14th 1/2 marathon this coming Saturday.


I'm running the mini in Indy on May 8th. I'd be thrilled if I could run it in 2.5 hours, but I'm thinking I'll be closer to 2 hours and 45 minutes. My pace has been about 12 minutes a mile, but our routes are mostly hills. The mini is all flat, so that should help out.

birtikidis
04-12-2010, 02:05 PM
woo hoo no charges! completely innocent!

calmkiller
04-12-2010, 02:22 PM
woo hoo no charges! completely innocent!

Not exactly. He isn't ruled innocent. It just means there is not enough evidence to prove in a court room that he sexually assaulted her. Civil suit can still follow.

birtikidis
04-12-2010, 02:24 PM
woo hoo no charges! completely innocent!

Not exactly. He isn't ruled innocent. It just means there is not enough evidence to prove in a court room that he sexually assaulted her. Civil suit can still follow.
hey, I'm declaring him innocent! back off! lol

calmkiller
04-12-2010, 02:25 PM
Alleged victim said on March 17 that she wanted to drop the case
Posted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2010 2:16 PM ET
Lost in the much-hyped announcement that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger won't face charges for sexual assault is the fact that, as District Attorney Fred Bright said Monday, the alleged victim's lawyer told Bright on March 17 that she no longer wished to pursue the matter.

Bright said he met with the alleged victim and her family 10 days ago, and they confirmed that they did not want to pursue the matter.

So why the dog and pony show? This one is a no brainer. If the victim doesn't want to proceed, it would be even harder for Bright and company to get a conviction.

And the outcome leaves open the door that Roethlisberger's lawyers quickly and quietly settled the claim in the days between March 5 and March 17. We're not saying that it occurred this way, but this is the way it would go down if a secret and confidential payment had been made.

proudpittsburgher
04-12-2010, 02:32 PM
So now we know that no charges are going to be filed, and this is behind Ben. So why don't I feel better about it?

Steelgal
04-12-2010, 02:39 PM
So now we know that no charges are going to be filed, and this is behind Ben. So why don't I feel better about it?

Because I know I was hoping Ben would look better after this case was closed, but in fact, he looks MUCH worse.

BURGH86STEEL
04-12-2010, 03:08 PM
So now we know that no charges are going to be filed, and this is behind Ben. So why don't I feel better about it?

I suppose it is the idea of the way he conducts himself off the field. There are many fans that don't condone that type of behavior. He still has some explaining to do to Roger and possibly the heads of the organization. He probably needs to stay clear of bars, night clubs, ect for a while.

Tomlinator
04-12-2010, 04:33 PM
Alleged victim said on March 17 that she wanted to drop the case
Posted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2010 2:16 PM ET
Lost in the much-hyped announcement that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger won't face charges for sexual assault is the fact that, as District Attorney Fred Bright said Monday, the alleged victim's lawyer told Bright on March 17 that she no longer wished to pursue the matter.

Bright said he met with the alleged victim and her family 10 days ago, and they confirmed that they did not want to pursue the matter.

So why the dog and pony show? This one is a no brainer. If the victim doesn't want to proceed, it would be even harder for Bright and company to get a conviction.

And the outcome leaves open the door that Roethlisberger's lawyers quickly and quietly settled the claim in the days between March 5 and March 17. We're not saying that it occurred this way, but this is the way it would go down if a secret and confidential payment had been made.

And with this comment Florio continues to show he's a tool. This guy loves the specualtive side of journalism.

stlrz d
04-12-2010, 07:12 PM
So now we know that no charges are going to be filed, and this is behind Ben. So why don't I feel better about it?

Dunno. I feel fine about it.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-12-2010, 08:46 PM
So now we know that no charges are going to be filed, and this is behind Ben. So why don't I feel better about it?

Dunno. I feel fine about it.

D, you've been pretty steady about this opinion throughout ... what's your perspective - what do you think the Rooney's, the NFL, and lots of Steeler Nation are just not understanding?

stlrz d
04-12-2010, 10:48 PM
So now we know that no charges are going to be filed, and this is behind Ben. So why don't I feel better about it?

Dunno. I feel fine about it.

D, you've been pretty steady about this opinion throughout ... what's your perspective - what do you think the Rooney's, the NFL, and lots of Steeler Nation are just not understanding?

That Ben is a free American and can live his life as he sees fit?

Folks may not like the choices he makes, but it's not for them to decide. And if there are consequences then they are his consequences.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-12-2010, 11:17 PM
[quote=proudpittsburgher]So now we know that no charges are going to be filed, and this is behind Ben. So why don't I feel better about it?

Dunno. I feel fine about it.

D, you've been pretty steady about this opinion throughout ... what's your perspective - what do you think the Rooney's, the NFL, and lots of Steeler Nation are just not understanding?

That Ben is a free American and can live his life as he sees fit?

Folks may not like the choices he makes, but it's not for them to decide. And if there are consequences then they are his consequences. [/quote:1epmbbvd]

I'm with you there. I think a lot of people are angry because he's acting like he's the only one who would have to pay consequences if he were bounced out of the 'burgh, or the NFL. Obviously there would be consequences for many others, to one degree or another - fans, Rooneys, etc.

I think he'll settle down, but that's just me!

stlrz d
04-12-2010, 11:20 PM
[quote=proudpittsburgher]So now we know that no charges are going to be filed, and this is behind Ben. So why don't I feel better about it?

Dunno. I feel fine about it.

D, you've been pretty steady about this opinion throughout ... what's your perspective - what do you think the Rooney's, the NFL, and lots of Steeler Nation are just not understanding?

That Ben is a free American and can live his life as he sees fit?

Folks may not like the choices he makes, but it's not for them to decide. And if there are consequences then they are his consequences.

I'm with you there. I think a lot of people are angry because he's acting like he's the only one who would have to pay consequences if he were bounced out of the 'burgh, or the NFL. Obviously there would be consequences for many others, to one degree or another - fans, Rooneys, etc.

I think he'll settle down, but that's just me![/quote:2lnkepk3]

No different than if he suffered a career ending injury.

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Coach Handbags had nothing to do with it. He is the one trying to get Ben into the film room, IIRC, and that would keep Ben out of the college bars.

This would have prevented a lot of problems.

I'm with you on this one. Just the smallest amount of attention to detail would have gone a long way here.


:wink: