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Chadman
03-29-2010, 11:31 PM
PITTSBURGH STEELERS

Team Needs: Offensive Line, Cornerback, Safety, Nose Tackle, Outside Linebacker. To look under the microscope go here http://www.draftseason.com/2010-nfl-dra ... eam-needs/ (http://www.draftseason.com/2010-nfl-draft-team-needs/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-draft-team-needs/)

Offseason Acquistions: WR Arnaz Battle, WR Antwaan Randle El, S Ryan Clark (resigned) S Will Allen, LB Larry Foote, LB Bryan Scott, OT Jonathan Scott

Offseason Losses: None

Potential Draft Targets:
Round 1: G Mike Iupati, C/G, Maurkice Pouncey, CB Kyle Wilson, CB Devin McCourty, S Earl Thomas, OT Anthony Davis, OLB Sergio Kindle
Round 2: CB Patrick Robinson, CB Kareem Jackson, CB Perrish Cox, NT Cam Thomas, G Vladimir Ducasse, OLB Ricky Sapp, OLB Navorro Bowman, OLB Thaddeus Gibson
Round 3: G John Jerry, G Zane Beadles, NT Torell Troup, S Morgan Burnett, S TJ Ward, S Major Wright

Plan of Attack: With the 18th selection in the draft the Steelers are expected to upgrade the interior of their offensive line. The two guys they’ll be looking at will be Idaho’s Mike Iupati or Florida’s Maurkice Pouncey. Iupati is a classic Steeler lineman. He is a tough, nasty run blocker who will restore some physicality to the Steelers ground game. He would be their no. 1 choice, but if they had to settle for Pouncey they wouldn’t be too upset. P0uncey is technically sound and very athletic. He could help out immidiately at center or guard.

In round 2 the Steelers should be looking for help in their secondary with cornerback being the focus. They would love for either FSU’s Patrick Robinson or Alabama’s Kareem Jackson to fall to them but that may not happen. A guy they could go with would be Oklahoma St.’s Perrish Cox. Cox has a few character concerns but he is nearly 6 feet tall and has blazing speed, which he could use to improve the Steelers return game.

In round 3 the Steelers may go defensive secondary again, this time looking at safeties. When Polamalu went out last year this defense lost its swagger. They need to find someone who can step in and be an adequate backup. A couple of real physical guys in Oregon’s TJ Ward or Georgia Tech’s Morgan Burnett could be available and both would look good in black and gold. One position to keep an eye on in round 3 is quarterback. With Ben Roethlisberger’s legal woes and inability to stay out of trouble, the team may be looking for an heir. If they are high on a signal caller like Tony Pike or Dan LeFevour that is a route they could very well go in.


2010 NFL Draft Needs of the Pittsburgh Steelers
Current Depth Chart of the Pittsburgh Steelers

Offensive Line
The Steelers will be looking to improve the interior of their offensive line early in this year’s draft. They want to be more physical running the ball and they want to keep Ben Roethlisberger upright. Idaho’s Mike Iupati would be a great fit in round 1, and they will likely add another offensive lineman sometime in the mid to later rounds as well.

Defensive Secondary
The Steelers need to find some cornerbacks with size. They were beaten through the air way to often in 2009 and will draft a big corner fairly early in this year’s draft. They will also look to add a safety at some point. When Troy Polamalu went down with injury this defense became a shell of itself. They would like to add a big enforcer type of safety and may look at doing so in rounds 3 or 4.

Quarterback
The Steelers are obvously upset with Ben Roethlisberger and how he keeps finding ways to get himself into trouble. They seem to like Dennis Dixon but may look for a more traditional type of pocket passer to groom for the future. If they do draft a quarterback and how soon will really show how they feel about Big Ben and whether or not they want him to continue to be the face of their franchise.

hawaiiansteel
03-30-2010, 12:30 AM
i would be happy with either Iupati or Pouncey in the first, the best available CB in the second and either an OLB or DL in the third.

and let's keep Ben as the face of our franchise. i'm sure he's learned his lesson this time and will work hard to not only be a better player than ever but a better person as well. :tt1

Oviedo
03-30-2010, 07:58 AM
PITTSBURGH STEELERS

Team Needs: Offensive Line, Cornerback, Safety, Nose Tackle, Outside Linebacker. To look under the microscope go here http://www.draftseason.com/2010-nfl-dra ... eam-needs/ (http://www.draftseason.com/2010-nfl-draft-team-needs/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-draft-team-needs/)

Offseason Acquistions: WR Arnaz Battle, WR Antwaan Randle El, S Ryan Clark (resigned) S Will Allen, LB Larry Foote, LB Bryan Scott, OT Jonathan Scott

Offseason Losses: None

Potential Draft Targets:
Round 1: G Mike Iupati, C/G, Maurkice Pouncey, CB Kyle Wilson, CB Devin McCourty, S Earl Thomas, OT Anthony Davis, OLB Sergio Kindle
Round 2: CB Patrick Robinson, CB Kareem Jackson, CB Perrish Cox, NT Cam Thomas, G Vladimir Ducasse, OLB Ricky Sapp, OLB Navorro Bowman, OLB Thaddeus Gibson
Round 3: G John Jerry, G Zane Beadles, NT Torell Troup, S Morgan Burnett, S TJ Ward, S Major Wright

Plan of Attack: With the 18th selection in the draft the Steelers are expected to upgrade the interior of their offensive line. The two guys they’ll be looking at will be Idaho’s Mike Iupati or Florida’s Maurkice Pouncey. Iupati is a classic Steeler lineman. He is a tough, nasty run blocker who will restore some physicality to the Steelers ground game. He would be their no. 1 choice, but if they had to settle for Pouncey they wouldn’t be too upset. P0uncey is technically sound and very athletic. He could help out immidiately at center or guard.

In round 2 the Steelers should be looking for help in their secondary with cornerback being the focus. They would love for either FSU’s Patrick Robinson or Alabama’s Kareem Jackson to fall to them but that may not happen. A guy they could go with would be Oklahoma St.’s Perrish Cox. Cox has a few character concerns but he is nearly 6 feet tall and has blazing speed, which he could use to improve the Steelers return game.

In round 3 the Steelers may go defensive secondary again, this time looking at safeties. When Polamalu went out last year this defense lost its swagger. They need to find someone who can step in and be an adequate backup. A couple of real physical guys in Oregon’s TJ Ward or Georgia Tech’s Morgan Burnett could be available and both would look good in black and gold. One position to keep an eye on in round 3 is quarterback. With Ben Roethlisberger’s legal woes and inability to stay out of trouble, the team may be looking for an heir. If they are high on a signal caller like Tony Pike or Dan LeFevour that is a route they could very well go in.


2010 NFL Draft Needs of the Pittsburgh Steelers
Current Depth Chart of the Pittsburgh Steelers

Offensive Line
The Steelers will be looking to improve the interior of their offensive line early in this year’s draft. They want to be more physical running the ball and they want to keep Ben Roethlisberger upright. Idaho’s Mike Iupati would be a great fit in round 1, and they will likely add another offensive lineman sometime in the mid to later rounds as well.

Defensive Secondary
The Steelers need to find some cornerbacks with size. They were beaten through the air way to often in 2009 and will draft a big corner fairly early in this year’s draft. They will also look to add a safety at some point. When Troy Polamalu went down with injury this defense became a shell of itself. They would like to add a big enforcer type of safety and may look at doing so in rounds 3 or 4.

Quarterback
The Steelers are obvously upset with Ben Roethlisberger and how he keeps finding ways to get himself into trouble. They seem to like Dennis Dixon but may look for a more traditional type of pocket passer to groom for the future. If they do draft a quarterback and how soon will really show how they feel about Big Ben and whether or not they want him to continue to be the face of their franchise.

You need to add Bradon Graham to your Round 1 grouping. I just have the feeling he is going to be the pick.

flippy
03-30-2010, 08:04 AM
I've never experienced so much uncertainty going into a draft.

We could go in so many directions and I'd be happy with a lot of them.

We're probably going to draft Golden Tate because that's the last guy I would consider. Coming from the guy who's first thought was Gresham and Spiller might be the best value picks at 18.

Oviedo
03-30-2010, 08:32 AM
I've never experienced so much uncertainty going into a draft.

We could go in so many directions and I'd be happy with a lot of them.

We're probably going to draft Golden Tate because that's the last guy I would consider. Coming from the guy who's first thought was Gresham and Spiller might be the best value picks at 18.

If Gresham and Spiller are there at #18 they would be great value. But you are correct. There will likely be a lot of good players we can take from a group of: Brandon Graham. Spiller, Weatherspoon, Odrick, Thomas, Wilson, Iupati, Gresham and Mays

Really can't find fault with a pick from any of those players. Each one has Pros and Cons.

fordfixer
03-30-2010, 08:35 AM
I've never experienced so much uncertainty going into a draft.

We could go in so many directions and I'd be happy with a lot of them.

We're probably going to draft Golden Tate because that's the last guy I would consider. Coming from the guy who's first thought was Gresham and Spiller might be the best value picks at 18.

If Gresham and Spiller are there at #18 they would be great value. But you are correct. There will likely be a lot of good players we can take from a group of: Brandon Graham. Spiller, Weatherspoon, Odrick, Thomas, Wilson, Iupati, Gresham and Mays

Really can't find fault with a pick from any of those players. Each one has Pros and Cons.


NO MORE CONS Sorry I could stop myself :oops:

steelblood
03-30-2010, 09:21 AM
Nice job. Well organized and thought out.

I only have one objection...


Devin McCourty in round one? If we took him at 18, I'd be very disappointed.

McCourty is a great special teams player, but many scouts don't project him to be a good starting corner. He has a lot of holes in his game, and I've never been real impressed when I've seen him play. He is a 2nd round talent at best imho. I see him as a core special teams guy and future nickel back/spot starter. Yes, he ran fast at the combine. But, that hasn't convinced me of anything.

Oviedo
03-30-2010, 09:33 AM
Nice job. Well organized and thought out.

I only have one objection...


Devin McCourty in round one? If we took him at 18, I'd be very disappointed.

McCourty is a great special teams player, but many scouts don't project him to be a good starting corner. He has a lot of holes in his game, and I've never been real impressed when I've seen him play. He is a 2nd round talent at best imho. I see him as a core special teams guy and future nickel back/spot starter. Yes, he ran fast at the combine. But, that hasn't convinced me of anything.

"future nickel back/spot starter" We have at least three of those already on the roster in Keenan Lewis, Joe Burnett and William Gay. We don't need another one. We need a legit starter to battle for the starting role against the players listed.

I just have a feeling Burnett will take a major step forward this season and challenge for the starting role opposite Ike.

Steel Life
03-30-2010, 10:41 AM
Nice job. Well organized and thought out.

I only have one objection...


Devin McCourty in round one? If we took him at 18, I'd be very disappointed.

McCourty is a great special teams player, but many scouts don't project him to be a good starting corner. He has a lot of holes in his game, and I've never been real impressed when I've seen him play. He is a 2nd round talent at best imho. I see him as a core special teams guy and future nickel back/spot starter. Yes, he ran fast at the combine. But, that hasn't convinced me of anything.

"future nickel back/spot starter" We have at least three of those already on the roster in Keenan Lewis, Joe Burnett and William Gay. We don't need another one. We need a legit starter to battle for the starting role against the players listed.

I just have a feeling Burnett will take a major step forward this season and challenge for the starting role opposite Ike.
I agree with Ovie - Burnett was a great DB in school, he just needs some reps to get his confidence up.

flippy
03-30-2010, 10:42 AM
I really like what I've seen from Burnett in limited work and believe he'll have a legit shot at being a starter.

I still have some hope for Lewis who has some good size and athleticism.

And I kinda like Mundy too.

I was sitting in the endzone the Steelers were defending in their 4th quarter collapse against the Raiders and the big problem with the young guys was their lack of mental preparation. They were just flat out confused and were leaving guys uncovered. Ryan Clark was going nuts that quarter trying to get guys lined up. It was the biggest fiasco I've ever seen.

But now that some of these guys have some experience under their belts, I expect the mental part of the game to come a little easier. And when guys like Burnett and Mundy can stop thinking and just play, I think they're gonna be a whole lot better.

Ike's ability to play a ball in the air is still a lost cause. We really need to upgrade his position as well. He's a decent athlete and hard worker and one of my favorites, but we need a better #1 CB in addition to upgrading Gay.

And a better pass rush will help all of our DBs.

flippy
03-30-2010, 10:46 AM
I've never experienced so much uncertainty going into a draft.

We could go in so many directions and I'd be happy with a lot of them.

We're probably going to draft Golden Tate because that's the last guy I would consider. Coming from the guy who's first thought was Gresham and Spiller might be the best value picks at 18.

If Gresham and Spiller are there at #18 they would be great value. But you are correct. There will likely be a lot of good players we can take from a group of: Brandon Graham. Spiller, Weatherspoon, Odrick, Thomas, Wilson, Iupati, Gresham and Mays

Really can't find fault with a pick from any of those players. Each one has Pros and Cons.

I like Odrick and Graham more and more and think they can contribute right away as situational pass rushers.

I also think we might be able to trade down and still grab one of these 2 guys. We might even be able to trade down in the first and up in the second and grab them both.

I also see the potential to trade down in 1 and up in the second and grab Iupati and Pouncey. While I'm not high on taking a guard and center 1 and 2, these 2 could contribute from day 1 which is something the Steelers must be thinking about.

steelblood
03-30-2010, 11:06 AM
Nice job. Well organized and thought out.

I only have one objection...


Devin McCourty in round one? If we took him at 18, I'd be very disappointed.

McCourty is a great special teams player, but many scouts don't project him to be a good starting corner. He has a lot of holes in his game, and I've never been real impressed when I've seen him play. He is a 2nd round talent at best imho. I see him as a core special teams guy and future nickel back/spot starter. Yes, he ran fast at the combine. But, that hasn't convinced me of anything.

"future nickel back/spot starter" We have at least three of those already on the roster in Keenan Lewis, Joe Burnett and William Gay. We don't need another one. We need a legit starter to battle for the starting role against the players listed.

I just have a feeling Burnett will take a major step forward this season and challenge for the starting role opposite Ike.
I agree with Ovie - Burnett was a great DB in school, he just needs some reps to get his confidence up.

Yes, I agree too. I don't want McCourty. The reason I mentioned was that I thought he was overrated here.

NW Steeler
03-30-2010, 11:52 AM
And a better pass rush will help all of our DBs.

And better coverage from our secondary will help our pass rush! How many times do you see us miss a sack by a second or less?

pfelix73
03-30-2010, 11:58 AM
It will all depend on what happens ahead of the Steelers and who might fall. Obviously. Brandon Graham is starting to get some mention with the 18th pick. Local media. Dulac does know his stuff. He's pretty accurate. I think, if a Haden or Thomas falls to them though, they'd be crazy to pass either of them up.

:tt1

Oviedo
03-30-2010, 12:10 PM
It will all depend on what happens ahead of the Steelers and who might fall. Obviously. Brandon Graham is starting to get some mention with the 18th pick. Local media. Dulac does know his stuff. He's pretty accurate. I think, if a Haden or Thomas falls to them though, they'd be crazy to pass either of them up.

:tt1

I'd take Graham over Thomas or Haden. There is more DB depth in this class than their is for potentially elite pass rushers.

pfelix73
03-30-2010, 12:25 PM
Maybe. - Haden though is being talked about on some other boards, media as a possible Derrelle Revis clone. You really never know until you draft one of them and find out in camp what you have. I do agree though that the boy from Michigan is going to be a good one. He proved that in the senior bowl game.

I'd take a shot with either of those DB's just because we need playmakers in the secondary. Another name being mentioned is the CB from Boise St. He must be impressing some folks and the Steelers were out at his workout from what I hear.

:tt1

Oviedo
03-30-2010, 01:45 PM
Maybe. - Haden though is being talked about on some other boards, media as a possible Derrelle Revis clone. You really never know until you draft one of them and find out in camp what you have. I do agree though that the boy from Michigan is going to be a good one. He proved that in the senior bowl game.

I'd take a shot with either of those DB's just because we need playmakers in the secondary. Another name being mentioned is the CB from Boise St. He must be impressing some folks and the Steelers were out at his workout from what I hear.

:tt1

Rookie DBs are rarely difference makers. Malcolm Jenkins and Vontae Davis were drafted in Round 1 last year. While they were OK they weren't difference makers for their teams. Jenkins didn't start until like Week 11 and only because of injury to Jabari Greer. Davis started early but while he had 4 INTs did he really make a difference?

Yet some believe if the Steelers draft a DB in Round 1 he is going to turn the world on its head with no NFL experience and solidify the defense. Very unlikey!!!

NW Steeler
03-30-2010, 02:00 PM
By that same token, we shouldn't expect any significant impact from any rookie. We have to think past this year, obviously. Chances are an O-lineman would have the best shot at making the most contribution in year one, IMO.

pfelix73
03-31-2010, 11:50 AM
Exactly. It will be difficult for any rookie coming in to start on this team- no matter the position. Like that every year. Still, we need more play makers on defense. The more I think about it Graham or Thomas would be great at 18.


:tt1

NW Steeler
03-31-2010, 11:56 AM
I am officially pimping the draft Graham team now. He could definitely contribute as a rookie, probably from day one. On obvious paasing downs, put him in and tell him to kill the QB!! Draft Graham and trade up to get Pouncey if he falls into the second round.

ikestops85
03-31-2010, 12:35 PM
I am officially pimping the draft Graham team now. He could definitely contribute as a rookie, probably from day one. On obvious paasing downs, put him in and tell him to kill the QB!! Draft Graham and trade up to get Pouncey if he falls into the second round.

But who does Graham replace? Harrison? Woodley? Timmons? We still need LBers to cover ... they all can't rush the passer. To me Graham makes little to no contribution as a rookie unless Harrison or Woodley get hurt.

With that said, I don't think you draft based on how a guy will contribute as a rookie. You have to look at his overall value to the team. Because of this I think there are 4 guys in the running for our 1st rounder

Graham
Iupati
Odrick
Thomas

Of course the only thing I know about these guys is what I've read on this site but based on that I think they will best fit the Steeler mold. :D

NW Steeler
03-31-2010, 12:45 PM
Graham doesn't replace anyone. He spells Harrison and Woodley. He learns. He offers the flexibility of moving Harrison inside next year, which I think is a very viable option. Dulac said on NFLN that the Steelers were very interested in Graham, but they wanted to run him in some drills where he did not have his hand down.

p.s. Add Pouncey to your list, but I hope not at #18.

Chadman
03-31-2010, 08:03 PM
Just to counter-balance the man-love we are showing Graham on here, the Steelers attended the Ohio St Pro Day, en masse, with defensive coaches- with Butler & LeBeau putting Thaddeus Gibson through a very rigorous workout.

Gibson's workout numbers were off the charts good.

And he fits the big school, good conference requisites of the Steeler FO.

With Woodley & Harrison entrenched at OLB for the next couple of years, a project like Gibson in the 3rd while adding other positions of need earlier might make sense..

hawaiiansteel
03-31-2010, 08:21 PM
Just to counter-balance the man-love we are showing Graham on here, the Steelers attended the Ohio St Pro Day, en masse, with defensive coaches- with Butler & LeBeau putting Thaddeus Gibson through a very rigorous workout.

Gibson's workout numbers were off the charts good.

And he fits the big school, good conference requisites of the Steeler FO.

With Woodley & Harrison entrenched at OLB for the next couple of years, a project like Gibson in the 3rd while adding other positions of need earlier might make sense..


I saw Thaddeus Gibson play a couple of times last season and was underwhelmed. He only had 4 sacks last season, if he can't get them against collegiate competition how many sacks would he get in the NFL?

if you don't want to draft a 3-4 OLB pass rusher like Brandon Graham (9.5 sacks) in the first because of our bigger needs at CB and OL, then i would rather look to trade up in Round 2 for Jerry Hughes (11.5 sacks) or even look to draft Eric Norwood (16 sacks last two seasons) in Round 4.

Chadman
03-31-2010, 08:55 PM
Certainly his stats say that he didn't perform at the same level as say, Gibson, but if the Steelers are showing this much interest, there must be something there.

Maybe as Harrison's successor the Steelers require a more athletic player to cover passes, rather than just a pure pass rusher like Woodley?

Chadman
03-31-2010, 08:56 PM
Plus, under Tomlin, the Steelers defensive players have been moving away from the bigger, more powerful guys, to the sharper, faster guys..

hawaiiansteel
03-31-2010, 09:21 PM
Plus, under Tomlin, the Steelers defensive players have been moving away from the bigger, more powerful guys, to the sharper, faster guys..


you make a good point, Timmons and Ziggy are definitely examples of that philosophy.

this is why i was convinced for awhile that the Steelers were targeting Sean Weatherspoon as he fits the Tomlin mold perfectly. the signing of Larry Foote changed my mind, however and i now think we will address our defensive secondary or offensive line in Round 1.