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MaxAMillion
03-29-2010, 07:01 PM
Did anyone see the Path to the Draft show today? They had Dulac on talking about the Steelers. Dulac mentioned Graham as a guy the Steelers liked a lot, but his guess for pick #18 was my man Pouncey Wouncey. He said they would play him at Guard initially and then move him to center.

He has been my pick for awhile. A lot of people should get ready to be annoyed because I think Pouncey gets picked by the Steelers in round one.

Shawn
03-29-2010, 07:06 PM
Unless they lied to Iupati or he is gone by 18 I don't see it happening.

WoodleyofTroy
03-29-2010, 08:01 PM
I like Pouncey, but you can't deny that playing in front of College "all time great" Tim Tebow (especially his playing style and ability to make plays on his own) that the game film on Pouncey may be a little skewed.

It's questionable at the least. At #18, I don't know if I like questions.

hawaiiansteel
03-29-2010, 08:01 PM
Did anyone see the Path to the Draft show today? They had Dulac on talking about the Steelers. Dulac mentioned Graham as a guy the Steelers liked a lot, but his guess for pick #18 was my man Pouncey Wouncey. He said they would play him at Guard initially and then move him to center.

He has been my pick for awhile. A lot of people should get ready to be annoyed because I think Pouncey gets picked by the Steelers in round one.



Brandon Graham from Michigan may very well be the best pass rusher in the draft and is often compared to Lamarr Woodley.

whereas Iupati had a disappointing Senior Bowl performance, Graham was named the MVP recording two sacks and basically was unblockable the whole Senior Bowl week.

if you want to correct pass coverage deficiencies, finding a pass rusher to put pressure on the opposing QB is a good idea. plus, James Harrison turns 32 in May and we need to start grooming his replacement soon.

Brandon Graham makes sense, don't be surprised if the Steelers call out his name come draft day.

Discipline of Steel
03-29-2010, 08:06 PM
Why would we draft a center to play guard in a position where we spent a fairly high pick last year? Id prefer to draft a backup center to eventually take over the position. 2nd tier center would be a smooth move after we address the CB situation.

hawaiiansteel
03-29-2010, 08:16 PM
Why would we draft a center to play guard in a position where we spent a fairly high pick last year? Id prefer to draft a backup center to eventually take over the position. 2nd tier center would be a smooth move after we address the CB situation.


maybe because Urbik has been a disappointment so far?



TUESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2009

Keeping up with the Rooks


Kraig Urbik

Of any player the Steelers drafted in the 2009 draft, Kraig Urbik was expected to have the greatest chance of becoming a starter. Darnell Stapleton struggled in spots during 2008 season and was expected to be pushed by the rookie guard from Wisconsin. As predicted, Stapleton will likely lose the starting job, but it will be to Trai Essex and not Kraig Urbik. Urbik has been the most disappointing of all the rookies. He has lacked power against the defensive lineman and generally looks lost. Early on in camp, he became Tomlin's "whipping boy" after making repeated mistakes. In the first preseason game, he failed generate much push off the line against Arizona's third team. His play against Washington wasn't much better.

Quotables:
"Ramon Foster is a better player than Kraig urbik. Urbik, frankly, is too soft. And I'm stunned" - Jim Wexell

"The second practice when we started doing one-on-ones that was a huge, rude awakening," said Urbik, one of three third-round picks the Steelers made in the NFL draft at the end of April. "You have to have perfect technique every time. I did bad on it, so it's really an eye-opener that you really have to hone your technique."

Likelihood of making team: 70%

The Steelers will give Urbik a chance to improve. It would be awfully rare for the front office to cut its second pick in the draft without giving him at least a year to develop.


http://steezbros.blogspot.com/2009/08/k ... rooks.html (http://steezbros.blogspot.com/2009/08/keeping-up-with-rooks.html)

Steel Life
03-29-2010, 08:24 PM
Why would we draft a center to play guard in a position where we spent a fairly high pick last year? Id prefer to draft a backup center to eventually take over the position. 2nd tier center would be a smooth move after we address the CB situation.
It's not uncommon for teams to do that with rookie OC's - including us. It's what we did with both Dawson & Hartings & they turned out okay. This is why I've pimped Petrus (OG, AR) as a possible pick to convert to center - he's got the strength to handle the POA & as a former FB, he's got great feet.

D Rock
03-29-2010, 08:57 PM
If they draft the top center in this years class then I want to see him playing center immediately. Hartwig very well may be the worst starting center in the NFL.

I wouldn't mind them drafting Pouncey a bit earlier than he maybe should go just because the center position needs upgraded so badly and there might not be any other center prospects able to step in and play day one.

RuthlessBurgher
03-29-2010, 09:26 PM
Dulac mentioned a center and an OLB, eh? I think (if they don't trade up in the first for the likes of Berry or Haden) they should pick the best player available at #18 (say, Earl Thomas), and then they could package their 2nd and 3rd round picks together in an effort to move up to get a center like Pouncey (they tried to trade up in round 2 for versatile interior lineman Max Unger last year and could try to do the same for Pouncey this year) or even to move up to get a legit backup OLB instead(because Frazier and Bailey don't cut it...if Harrison or Woodley went down, we'd have no choice but to move Timmons outside). Since Graham will likely come off the board in the 20's, we could possibly trade up for another excellent pass rushing OLB like TCU's Jerry Hughes instead.

Discipline of Steel
03-29-2010, 09:29 PM
Why would we draft a center to play guard in a position where we spent a fairly high pick last year? Id prefer to draft a backup center to eventually take over the position. 2nd tier center would be a smooth move after we address the CB situation.


maybe because Urbik has been a disappointment so far?



TUESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2009

Keeping up with the Rooks


Kraig Urbik

Of any player the Steelers drafted in the 2009 draft, Kraig Urbik was expected to have the greatest chance of becoming a starter. Darnell Stapleton struggled in spots during 2008 season and was expected to be pushed by the rookie guard from Wisconsin. As predicted, Stapleton will likely lose the starting job, but it will be to Trai Essex and not Kraig Urbik. Urbik has been the most disappointing of all the rookies. He has lacked power against the defensive lineman and generally looks lost. Early on in camp, he became Tomlin's "whipping boy" after making repeated mistakes. In the first preseason game, he failed generate much push off the line against Arizona's third team. His play against Washington wasn't much better.

Quotables:
"Ramon Foster is a better player than Kraig urbik. Urbik, frankly, is too soft. And I'm stunned" - Jim Wexell

"The second practice when we started doing one-on-ones that was a huge, rude awakening," said Urbik, one of three third-round picks the Steelers made in the NFL draft at the end of April. "You have to have perfect technique every time. I did bad on it, so it's really an eye-opener that you really have to hone your technique."

Likelihood of making team: 70%

The Steelers will give Urbik a chance to improve. It would be awfully rare for the front office to cut its second pick in the draft without giving him at least a year to develop.


http://steezbros.blogspot.com/2009/08/k ... rooks.html (http://steezbros.blogspot.com/2009/08/keeping-up-with-rooks.html)

Not to discount the article but it came out ONE MONTH into Urbik's pro career. Hawaiiansteel, are you labelling Kraig Urbik a total bust? I do have to admit, 'I did bad on it...' doesnt sound too smart.

Chadman
03-29-2010, 09:43 PM
[quote="Discipline of Steel":1n1briye]Why would we draft a center to play guard in a position where we spent a fairly high pick last year? Id prefer to draft a backup center to eventually take over the position. 2nd tier center would be a smooth move after we address the CB situation.
It's not uncommon for teams to do that with rookie OC's - including us. It's what we did with both Dawson & Hartings & they turned out okay. This is why I've pimped Petrus (OG, AR) as a possible pick to convert to center - he's got the strength to handle the POA & as a former FB, he's got great feet.[/quote:1n1briye]

:D Chadman thinks you might be making stuff up to back-up your argument...Hartings was drafted by the Lions.

He was a Center his whole Steeler career.

WoodleyofTroy
03-29-2010, 09:54 PM
Dulac mentioned a center and an OLB, eh? I think (if they don't trade up in the first for the likes of Berry or Haden) they should pick the best player available at #18 (say, Earl Thomas), and then they could package their 2nd and 3rd round picks together in an effort to move up to get a center like Pouncey (they tried to trade up in round 2 for versatile interior lineman Max Unger last year and could try to do the same for Pouncey this year) or even to move up to get a legit backup OLB instead(because Frazier and Bailey don't cut it...if Harrison or Woodley went down, we'd have no choice but to move Timmons outside). Since Graham will likely come off the board in the 20's, we could possibly trade up for another excellent pass rushing OLB like TCU's Jerry Hughes instead.

This.

All of it.

plainnasty
03-30-2010, 01:18 AM
I saw an interview with DT Gerald Mccoy from Oklahoma during the combine. When asked who was the toughest offensive lineman he had ever gone up against in college he said Pouncey.

That means a lot more than what Mel Kiper or all the other "experts" say.

hawaiiansteel
03-30-2010, 03:01 AM
[quote="Discipline of Steel":1u6ih4et]Why would we draft a center to play guard in a position where we spent a fairly high pick last year? Id prefer to draft a backup center to eventually take over the position. 2nd tier center would be a smooth move after we address the CB situation.


maybe because Urbik has been a disappointment so far?



TUESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2009

Keeping up with the Rooks


Kraig Urbik

Of any player the Steelers drafted in the 2009 draft, Kraig Urbik was expected to have the greatest chance of becoming a starter. Darnell Stapleton struggled in spots during 2008 season and was expected to be pushed by the rookie guard from Wisconsin. As predicted, Stapleton will likely lose the starting job, but it will be to Trai Essex and not Kraig Urbik. Urbik has been the most disappointing of all the rookies. He has lacked power against the defensive lineman and generally looks lost. Early on in camp, he became Tomlin's "whipping boy" after making repeated mistakes. In the first preseason game, he failed generate much push off the line against Arizona's third team. His play against Washington wasn't much better.

Quotables:
"Ramon Foster is a better player than Kraig urbik. Urbik, frankly, is too soft. And I'm stunned" - Jim Wexell

"The second practice when we started doing one-on-ones that was a huge, rude awakening," said Urbik, one of three third-round picks the Steelers made in the NFL draft at the end of April. "You have to have perfect technique every time. I did bad on it, so it's really an eye-opener that you really have to hone your technique."

Likelihood of making team: 70%

The Steelers will give Urbik a chance to improve. It would be awfully rare for the front office to cut its second pick in the draft without giving him at least a year to develop.


http://steezbros.blogspot.com/2009/08/k ... rooks.html (http://steezbros.blogspot.com/2009/08/keeping-up-with-rooks.html)

Not to discount the article but it came out ONE MONTH into Urbik's pro career. Hawaiiansteel, are you labelling Kraig Urbik a total bust? I do have to admit, 'I did bad on it...' doesnt sound too smart.[/quote:1u6ih4et]


i would not label Urbik a total bust at this point, but he has been a disappointment. this will be a make or break year for Urbik, if the Steelers do indeed draft an OG early he could very well be in danger of getting cut unless he shows some dramatic improvement in camp.

Oviedo
03-30-2010, 07:43 AM
Did anyone see the Path to the Draft show today? They had Dulac on talking about the Steelers. Dulac mentioned Graham as a guy the Steelers liked a lot, but his guess for pick #18 was my man Pouncey Wouncey. He said they would play him at Guard initially and then move him to center.

He has been my pick for awhile. A lot of people should get ready to be annoyed because I think Pouncey gets picked by the Steelers in round one.



Brandon Graham from Michigan may very well be the best pass rusher in the draft and is often compared to Lamarr Woodley.

whereas Iupati had a disappointing Senior Bowl performance, Graham was named the MVP recording two sacks and basically was unblockable the whole Senior Bowl week.

if you want to correct pass coverage deficiencies, finding a pass rusher to put pressure on the opposing QB is a good idea. plus, James Harrison turns 32 in May and we need to start grooming his replacement soon.

Brandon Graham makes sense, don't be surprised if the Steelers call out his name come draft day.

Graham is a guy I love. Want to improve the secondary play then attack the QB consistently. That will make all the DBs look effective. Our pass rush last year was not consistent and without the new dimension of Timmons blitzing from the inside it would have been worse. Ignore the overall numbers and take into account the following:

Harrison: Games 1-8: 8 sacks/Games 9-16: 2 sacks
Woodley: Games 1-8: 2 sacks/Games 9-16: 11.5 sacks

Looking at these stats you have to wonder if Harrison was wearing down in the second half of the season or if he was just injured but it is a reason to be concerned.
Getting a top pass rusher is never a bad thing and getting the best young one in this draft would be great.

I still would like to see if Graham could be converted to the inside to take Timmons position and let Timmons move to Farrior's position. Graham definitely has the tools to be a run stuffer plus he adds the dimension of awesome blitzer.

Steel Life
03-30-2010, 10:51 AM
[quote="Discipline of Steel":4pews4bw]Why would we draft a center to play guard in a position where we spent a fairly high pick last year? Id prefer to draft a backup center to eventually take over the position. 2nd tier center would be a smooth move after we address the CB situation.
It's not uncommon for teams to do that with rookie OC's - including us. It's what we did with both Dawson & Hartings & they turned out okay. This is why I've pimped Petrus (OG, AR) as a possible pick to convert to center - he's got the strength to handle the POA & as a former FB, he's got great feet.

:D Chadman thinks you might be making stuff up to back-up your argument...Hartings was drafted by the Lions.

He was a Center his whole Steeler career.[/quote:4pews4bw]
You're right, my bad, I assumed everyone knew he was a Lion originally. But he had never played OC before coming to the Steelers & I wanted to show that OG to OC conversions weren't all that uncommon. As for Dawson, I'm dead-on about that.

Dee Dub
03-30-2010, 12:35 PM
Did anyone see the Path to the Draft show today? They had Dulac on talking about the Steelers. Dulac mentioned Graham as a guy the Steelers liked a lot, but his guess for pick #18 was my man Pouncey Wouncey. He said they would play him at Guard initially and then move him to center.

He has been my pick for awhile. A lot of people should get ready to be annoyed because I think Pouncey gets picked by the Steelers in round one.



Brandon Graham from Michigan may very well be the best pass rusher in the draft and is often compared to Lamarr Woodley.

whereas Iupati had a disappointing Senior Bowl performance, Graham was named the MVP recording two sacks and basically was unblockable the whole Senior Bowl week.

if you want to correct pass coverage deficiencies, finding a pass rusher to put pressure on the opposing QB is a good idea. plus, James Harrison turns 32 in May and we need to start grooming his replacement soon.

Brandon Graham makes sense, don't be surprised if the Steelers call out his name come draft day.

So how does adding Graham help the Steelers pass coverage in 2010? How does he do more than the OLB currently in place....James Harrison?

Makes no sense what so ever.

Oviedo
03-30-2010, 01:37 PM
Did anyone see the Path to the Draft show today? They had Dulac on talking about the Steelers. Dulac mentioned Graham as a guy the Steelers liked a lot, but his guess for pick #18 was my man Pouncey Wouncey. He said they would play him at Guard initially and then move him to center.

He has been my pick for awhile. A lot of people should get ready to be annoyed because I think Pouncey gets picked by the Steelers in round one.



Brandon Graham from Michigan may very well be the best pass rusher in the draft and is often compared to Lamarr Woodley.

whereas Iupati had a disappointing Senior Bowl performance, Graham was named the MVP recording two sacks and basically was unblockable the whole Senior Bowl week.

if you want to correct pass coverage deficiencies, finding a pass rusher to put pressure on the opposing QB is a good idea. plus, James Harrison turns 32 in May and we need to start grooming his replacement soon.

Brandon Graham makes sense, don't be surprised if the Steelers call out his name come draft day.

So how does adding Graham help the Steelers pass coverage in 2010? How does he do more than the OLB currently in place....James Harrison?

Makes no sense what so ever.

Less time for the opposing QB to throw is the key of LeBeau's defensive scheme. Why do you think he plays his CB 10 yards off of the because he is wooried about coverage? His scheme is predicated on getting to the QB before he can throw to his primary recivers and if he does keep those receoivers in front of the secondary and make the sure tackle and allow yards after the catch. LeBeau wants pressure on the QB fast so that he is forced to take the short pass pattern or make an errant throw.

Those obsessed with coverage ignore the fact that the NFL has initiated rules that give the WR all the advanatages.

To me makes no sense to believe the myth or a "shutdown" DB or that a rookie is going to come in and cover experience NFL receivers to the degree that they aren't going to get their catches. Who was the last rookie DB to come into this league who really made a difference?

NW Steeler
03-30-2010, 02:03 PM
Just because a rookie CB will not make much of a contribution in his first year does not mean we shouldn't draft one. We need to think about replacing both of our CB positions. I highly doubt that the Steelers will draft the player that has the best chance at playing right off the bat. They will draft with the future in mind. Any contribution as a rookie would be a bonus.

RuthlessBurgher
03-30-2010, 02:06 PM
Did anyone see the Path to the Draft show today? They had Dulac on talking about the Steelers. Dulac mentioned Graham as a guy the Steelers liked a lot, but his guess for pick #18 was my man Pouncey Wouncey. He said they would play him at Guard initially and then move him to center.

He has been my pick for awhile. A lot of people should get ready to be annoyed because I think Pouncey gets picked by the Steelers in round one.



Brandon Graham from Michigan may very well be the best pass rusher in the draft and is often compared to Lamarr Woodley.

whereas Iupati had a disappointing Senior Bowl performance, Graham was named the MVP recording two sacks and basically was unblockable the whole Senior Bowl week.

if you want to correct pass coverage deficiencies, finding a pass rusher to put pressure on the opposing QB is a good idea. plus, James Harrison turns 32 in May and we need to start grooming his replacement soon.

Brandon Graham makes sense, don't be surprised if the Steelers call out his name come draft day.

So how does adding Graham help the Steelers pass coverage in 2010? How does he do more than the OLB currently in place....James Harrison?

Makes no sense what so ever.

Less time for the opposing QB to throw is the key of LeBeau's defensive scheme. Why do you think he plays his CB 10 yards off of the because he is wooried about coverage? His scheme is predicated on getting to the QB before he can throw to his primary recivers and if he does keep those receoivers in front of the secondary and make the sure tackle and allow yards after the catch. LeBeau wants pressure on the QB fast so that he is forced to take the short pass pattern or make an errant throw.

Those obsessed with coverage ignore the fact that the NFL has initiated rules that give the WR all the advanatages.

To me makes no sense to believe the myth or a "shutdown" DB or that a rookie is going to come in and cover experience NFL receivers to the degree that they aren't going to get their catches. Who was the last rookie DB to come into this league who really made a difference?

Last year, Jairus Byrd had an excellent rookie season in Buffalo. Before that, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie had a solid rookie campaign in Arizona. I doubt that I need to tell you about Darrelle Revis the year before that.

Although I agree that getting another pass-rushing OLB is important (I think having Frazier and Bailey behind Harrison and Woodley is asking for trouble), I think there is better value taking a top-rated DB in round 1, then trading up in round 2 to get an excellent pass rushing OLB prospect like Jerry Hughes instead of spending our top pick on a backup OLB like Brandon Graham, and settling for a second-tier DB in round 2 or 3.

Dee Dub
03-30-2010, 02:50 PM
Did anyone see the Path to the Draft show today? They had Dulac on talking about the Steelers. Dulac mentioned Graham as a guy the Steelers liked a lot, but his guess for pick #18 was my man Pouncey Wouncey. He said they would play him at Guard initially and then move him to center.

He has been my pick for awhile. A lot of people should get ready to be annoyed because I think Pouncey gets picked by the Steelers in round one.



Brandon Graham from Michigan may very well be the best pass rusher in the draft and is often compared to Lamarr Woodley.

whereas Iupati had a disappointing Senior Bowl performance, Graham was named the MVP recording two sacks and basically was unblockable the whole Senior Bowl week.

if you want to correct pass coverage deficiencies, finding a pass rusher to put pressure on the opposing QB is a good idea. plus, James Harrison turns 32 in May and we need to start grooming his replacement soon.

Brandon Graham makes sense, don't be surprised if the Steelers call out his name come draft day.

So how does adding Graham help the Steelers pass coverage in 2010? How does he do more than the OLB currently in place....James Harrison?

Makes no sense what so ever.

Less time for the opposing QB to throw is the key of LeBeau's defensive scheme. Why do you think he plays his CB 10 yards off of the because he is wooried about coverage? His scheme is predicated on getting to the QB before he can throw to his primary recivers and if he does keep those receoivers in front of the secondary and make the sure tackle and allow yards after the catch. LeBeau wants pressure on the QB fast so that he is forced to take the short pass pattern or make an errant throw.

Those obsessed with coverage ignore the fact that the NFL has initiated rules that give the WR all the advanatages.

To me makes no sense to believe the myth or a "shutdown" DB or that a rookie is going to come in and cover experience NFL receivers to the degree that they aren't going to get their catches. Who was the last rookie DB to come into this league who really made a difference?

What are you talking about about and how does it pertain to my quote?? I'll ask you this time...how does a rookie OLB (Graham), provide more that what James Harrison is bringing in regards to a pass rush??

Again...drafting Graham makes no sense. He can not and will not bring any help at all to pass coverage for the Steelers in 2010. Theres already a pro bowler there occupying that spot who aint goin no where.

Oviedo
03-30-2010, 02:54 PM
Did anyone see the Path to the Draft show today? They had Dulac on talking about the Steelers. Dulac mentioned Graham as a guy the Steelers liked a lot, but his guess for pick #18 was my man Pouncey Wouncey. He said they would play him at Guard initially and then move him to center.

He has been my pick for awhile. A lot of people should get ready to be annoyed because I think Pouncey gets picked by the Steelers in round one.



Brandon Graham from Michigan may very well be the best pass rusher in the draft and is often compared to Lamarr Woodley.

whereas Iupati had a disappointing Senior Bowl performance, Graham was named the MVP recording two sacks and basically was unblockable the whole Senior Bowl week.

if you want to correct pass coverage deficiencies, finding a pass rusher to put pressure on the opposing QB is a good idea. plus, James Harrison turns 32 in May and we need to start grooming his replacement soon.

Brandon Graham makes sense, don't be surprised if the Steelers call out his name come draft day.

So how does adding Graham help the Steelers pass coverage in 2010? How does he do more than the OLB currently in place....James Harrison?

Makes no sense what so ever.

Less time for the opposing QB to throw is the key of LeBeau's defensive scheme. Why do you think he plays his CB 10 yards off of the because he is wooried about coverage? His scheme is predicated on getting to the QB before he can throw to his primary recivers and if he does keep those receoivers in front of the secondary and make the sure tackle and allow yards after the catch. LeBeau wants pressure on the QB fast so that he is forced to take the short pass pattern or make an errant throw.

Those obsessed with coverage ignore the fact that the NFL has initiated rules that give the WR all the advanatages.

To me makes no sense to believe the myth or a "shutdown" DB or that a rookie is going to come in and cover experience NFL receivers to the degree that they aren't going to get their catches. Who was the last rookie DB to come into this league who really made a difference?

Last year, Jairus Byrd had an excellent rookie season in Buffalo. Before that, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie had a solid rookie campaign in Arizona. I doubt that I need to tell you about Darrelle Revis the year before that.

Although I agree that getting another pass-rushing OLB is important (I think having Frazier and Bailey behind Harrison and Woodley is asking for trouble), I think there is better value taking a top-rated DB in round 1, then trading up in round 2 to get an excellent pass rushing OLB prospect like Jerry Hughes instead of spending our top pick on a backup OLB like Brandon Graham, and settling for a second-tier DB in round 2 or 3.

I would disagre and get Graham in Round 1 and Kareem jackson in Round 2. This is a deep draft for DBs.

NW Steeler
03-30-2010, 04:42 PM
Graham makes sense for the future. Maybe drafting Graham opens up the possibility that Harrison could be moved to ILB, assuming that Farrior will retire or be released after this year. Yeah, I know that Harrison is a Pro Bowl OLB, but I think he could play very well inside, especially if Graham turns out to be Woodley V2.

hawaiiansteel
03-30-2010, 04:58 PM
Did anyone see the Path to the Draft show today? They had Dulac on talking about the Steelers. Dulac mentioned Graham as a guy the Steelers liked a lot, but his guess for pick #18 was my man Pouncey Wouncey. He said they would play him at Guard initially and then move him to center.

He has been my pick for awhile. A lot of people should get ready to be annoyed because I think Pouncey gets picked by the Steelers in round one.



Brandon Graham from Michigan may very well be the best pass rusher in the draft and is often compared to Lamarr Woodley.

whereas Iupati had a disappointing Senior Bowl performance, Graham was named the MVP recording two sacks and basically was unblockable the whole Senior Bowl week.

if you want to correct pass coverage deficiencies, finding a pass rusher to put pressure on the opposing QB is a good idea. plus, James Harrison turns 32 in May and we need to start grooming his replacement soon.

Brandon Graham makes sense, don't be surprised if the Steelers call out his name come draft day.

So how does adding Graham help the Steelers pass coverage in 2010? How does he do more than the OLB currently in place....James Harrison?

Makes no sense what so ever.


James Harrison turns 32 in May and can't play forever, a replacement needs to be drafted and groomed soon. Graham could also serve as an insurance policy in the event of a Harrison or Woodley injury, Frazier and Bailey are not adequate replacements.

in the meantime, Graham can be used as a situational pass rusher in obvious passing downs and rotated in with Harrison and Woodley to keep everyone fresh. plus, there is no reason why they can't be on the field at the same time, Graham and Woodley both know how to put their hands on the ground if LeBeau wanted to add a new wrinkle.

too many times last season the other team had way too long to throw, very few DBs can cover NFL receivers for very long. we might even get a few interceptions if the opposing QB were forced to throw earlier than he wanted...unless we dropped them of course. :roll:

Chadman
03-30-2010, 06:07 PM
Who was the last rookie DB to make an impact in his rookie year?

Umm...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf3euTsIZmU

this guy probably...

hawaiiansteel
03-30-2010, 06:52 PM
Who was the last rookie DB to make an impact in his rookie year?

Umm...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf3euTsIZmU

this guy probably...


Delmas is and will be a very good safety for years to come. however, like all young DBs you have to be able to live with their mistakes, something LeBeau seems reluctant to do.

also interesting what is said about Larry Foote...



DETROIT LIONS FOOTBALL

Lions rookie safety Louis Delmas improving, but 'still making a lot of mistakes'

By Tom Kowalski

November 13, 2009

Detroit Lions rookie safety Louis Delmas is second on the team in tackles with 45 and has a sack, an interception and a fumble return for a touchdown (65 yards).
ALLEN PARK -- The more Louis Delmas does, the more he's asked to do. He wouldn't have it any other way.

Delmas, a rookie safety from Western Michigan, continues to show improvement as the Detroit Lions' season progresses, but he's still got a long way to go.

"I think I'm playing alright, but I'm still making a lot of mistakes," Delmas said. "I haven't been playing my role as the quarterback of the defense, guiding the defensive line and the linebackers and the rest of the secondary to the right spots."

Delmas has started every game at safety, one of only three Lions defenders to start in all eight games this season -- linebackers Julian Peterson and Larry Foote are the others. Delmas will be in the lineup again Sunday when the Lions visit the Minnesota Vikings at the Metrodome.

The 1-7 Lions are 17-point underdogs to the 7-1 Vikings.

"He made a couple of major mistakes in the (Seattle) game," Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham said. "He was supposed to come on a couple of blitzes and he checked out of it, and it was at critical times. It was early in the game and we were handling them pretty good. But he's recognizing it and every week he's learning a little bit more.

"He's a rookie, and that's what happens. Your mind goes haywire."

"It's a big adjustment for me," said Delmas, who is second on the team in tackles with 45 and has a sack, an interception and a fumble return for a touchdown (65 yards). He also has knocked down six passes.

"In this game, you do as much as you can because you can't take it all in at once."

Cunningham was quick to point out that Delmas isn't the only Lions defender to struggle at times during this season.

"(Linebacker) Larry Foote is still going through the Pittsburgh Steelers thing," said Cunningham, referring to Foote's seven years with the Steelers before arriving in Detroit this season. "He has flashbacks, and I see it in him. He made some mistakes in the game, and I felt really bad for him. He gives you so much."

Cunningham said many of a defender's mistakes are mental.

"I told him -- I told them all -- we have to drive that stuff from our heads. We all have flashbacks. You see one play and you call it the way you used to call it. I don't care who you are, it affects you. You're changing the whole language and everything you've been taught for seven years, for every single day of your football life. Now, you've got to cut it off and go out there and play that game. That's hard to do."

Foote returned to practice Friday after missing two days with a sore knee. He is expected to start against the Vikings, but linebacker Ernie Sims (hamstring) remains sidelined and could miss several weeks.