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Chadman
03-23-2010, 07:24 PM
Ok, Chadman wasn't overly happy with the last effort & has decided to somewhat re-do that Mock...here's the updated Version..

Chadman
03-23-2010, 07:26 PM
ROUND 1

MIKE IUPATI OG IDAHO
HEIGHT- 6'5"
WEIGHT- 331 LBS
ARMS- 34 3/4"
HANDS- 10 5/8"
40 YARD- 5.24
BENCH- 27

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Pass blocking: Good initial quickness off the snap. Provides a significant jolt to the defender with his punch. Too high in his pass protection but has the strong hands to latch on to the defender and ride him throughout the play. Good balance and lateral agility to slide with the defender and remain square. Can get himself in trouble with leverage by playing too high. Long arms and great lower strength to lock out. Rarely takes a step back even against a powerful bull rush, but this could be an area of concern against NFL defensive linemen, especially when Iupati fails to move his feet. Has developed into a savvy blocker. Looks to help out his teammates when not covered. Wants to hit someone.

Run Blocking: Can dominate as a run blocker due to his mass and rare upper-body strength. Provides an explosive initial pop that often knocks the defender back. Has to do a better job of latching on, as he'll knock his opponent back only to see him regroup and get back into the play. Very good drive blocker when he plays with leverage and keeps his hands inside. Can physically remove the defender from the hole. Looks to eliminate more than one defender on the play and will release to the second level. Good effort downfield.

Pulling/trapping: Surprisingly agile in getting out and blocking at the second level. Good body control and straight-line speed for a player of his size. Can re-adjust in space to hit the linebacker. Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.

Initial Quickness: Good initial quickness off the snap in pass protection. Even on the rare occasions when beaten off the snap, his long arms and wide-body make it difficult for defenders (including blitzing linebackers) to sneak through his gap. When beaten by quicker defensive tackles in the running game, has the agility and long arms to catch them as they slide by, typically knocking them down and pancaking them.

Downfield: Intimidating presence on the move. Good athleticism and balance for a man his size and can redirect to make the effective block when he gets close. Will misjudge angles at times, and miss his intended target. When he does so, rather than turn to stand helplessly around the pile, he moves on to the next target. Good effort to block downfield.

Intangibles: Made significant progress over the past two seasons and appears to be just scratching the surface of his potential. Size and athleticism combination enough that some will view him as a better offensive tackle or even defensive tackle prospect. Born in American Samoa and moved to the United States at 14. Began learning English (and football) at that time. Has only played football since high school. Signed with Idaho after bigger programs had concerns about his ability to qualify academically. Voted team captain by his peers for 2009.

Chadman
03-23-2010, 07:33 PM
ROUND 2

MATT TENNANT OC BOSTON COLLEGE
HEIGHT- 6'5"
WEIGHT- 300 LBS
ARMS- 32 1/4"
HANDS- 9 1/2"
40 YARD- 5.15
BENCH- 27

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Analysis
Pass blocking: Good hand punch to get the defender off-balance and shows some nastiness in attempting to de-cleat the defender when the opportunity arises. Good lateral agility to mirror the defender. Keeps his shoulders square and plays with leverage and balance due to proper knee bend. Plays high and can get in trouble anchoring against shorter, powerful defensive tackles.

Run blocking: Moderate and improving strength to wall-off and sustain. Can turn and control his assignment to keep him from making the play. Flashes some explosiveness in his initial pop, but needs to add more strength in his upper body to sustain blocks longer.

Pulling/trapping: Efficient combo blocker. Provides a pop at the first level, but is agile enough to get to the second level and deliver an effective block there as well. Good lateral agility and initial quickness to pull. Athletic enough in this area to consider moving to guard at the next level.

Initial Quickness: Good initial quickness to gain an advantage on the defender. Good burst off the snap for the cut-block on quick throws.

Downfield: High-effort player who looks to block downfield and isn't afraid to block to or through the whistle. Very good foot quickness and balance to get to the second level and adjust to the moving target.

Intangibles: Tall, almost lanky athlete for the center position. Room for additional muscle mass. Legitimate NFL athleticism. Reliable shotgun and traditional snapper. Durable player entering his senior campaign with 41 consecutive starts. Has the athleticism and body style to consider moving to guard. A bit too lanky for some teams at center.

Chadman
03-23-2010, 07:40 PM
ROUND 3

AMARI SPIEVEY CB IOWA
HEIGHT- 5'11"
WEIGHT- 195 LBS
ARMS- 32"
HANDS- 9 5/8"
40 YARD- 4.52
BENCH-

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Read & React: Adequate diagnosing routes in zones and man. Can be a step slow to see rushing plays or double-moves coming. Best reacting to plays in front of him as a zone corner.

Man Coverage: Usually played off in Iowa's defensive scheme and was able to transition to face receivers and stay on their hip down the sideline. Could be an effective press corner, but needs to get his hands on the receiver more consistently. Strong enough to ride his man out of bounds if getting the jam. Loses track of his man when turning to look for the ball downfield. Plays tall, has a high, choppy backpedal and only average lateral movement. Allows receivers to eat up cushion too quickly.

Zone Coverage: Very experienced zone corner. Shows good awareness of receivers and closes on throws in either direction. Uses his length and height to knock the ball away. Flashes great hands, adjusting to high, low or wide throws, but could be more consistent going for and making the interception.

Closing/Recovery: Accelerates to the ball in his zone, takes the proper angle to prevent long runs after the catch. Able to knock passes away using his left and right hand without interfering, even when out of position. Recovery speed is lacking -- will struggle against double moves.

Run Support: Willing to attack blocks in run support to turn plays inside, but doesn't shed quickly enough to make plays. Cut-tackles and wraps in space. Crashes down and chases effectively when no receiver lines up on his side of the field.

Tackling: Flashes explosive tackling ability on the edge, will plant running backs into the turf. Effective cut tackler who keeps his head up, but should be wrapping up smaller ballcarriers instead of diving for their legs. Gunner on special teams, has good speed and strength to break through double teams but doesn't always get off blocks. Can wrap up return man before he makes his first move.

Intangibles: Has matured and improved his work ethic since blowing off his academic responsibilities. Humble off the field but doesn't shy from contact between the lines. Comes to the aid of his teammates in piles if needed.

Chadman
03-23-2010, 07:41 PM
ROUND 4

D'ANTHONY SMITH DT/DE LOUISANA TECH
HEIGHT- 6'2"
WEIGHT- 302 LBS
ARMS- 32 3/8"
HANDS- 10"
40 YARD- 4.95
BENCH- 30

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Pass rush: Good initial quickness to pressure the pocket, but lacks a variety of pass-rush moves and relies predominately on his bull rush. Showed an improved swim move as a senior. Cerebral defender who keeps his head on a swivel and reacts well to the screen and draw plays. Keeps his eyes on the quarterback and does a nice job of getting his hands up in the air to deflect passes when he can't get pressure.

Run defense: Short, stumpy defender who plays with good pad level and leg drive to hold up in the running game. Active feet and good lateral agility to slide down the line and make the tackle at or near the line of scrimmage.

Explosion: Good initial quickness off the snap. Flashes the burst to attack gaps and collapse the pocket from the interior. Violent hands to disengage from blocks. Flashes some pop as a tackler. Will leap at the ballcarrier and knock them violently into the ground.

Strength: Good leg drive and use of leverage for the bull rush. Good upper-body strength to violently rip away from blocks.

Tackling: Recognizes the cutback and has the flexibility and balance to protect his knees by sprawling and pushing off his hands to get past the blocker. Good strength to slide off blocks and make the tackle as backs run by. Shows some lateral agility and balance to break down in close quarters.

Intangibles: Remains a work in progress. Has been able to get by with just his size and athletic ability at this level. Doesn't play with the nastiness you'd expect from a defensive tackle. Might lack the intensity and self motivation to maximize his talent. Experienced in the 4-3 (under-tackle) and as the nose in a three-man front when the Bulldogs went to nickel. Durable. Started 44 consecutive games to finish his career. Ascending talent with upside worthy of development.

Chadman
03-23-2010, 07:52 PM
ROUND 5A

O'BRIEN SCHOFIELD OLB WISCONSIN
HEIGHT- 6'2"
WEIGHT- 221 LBS
ARMS- 32 3/8"
HANDS- 9 1/2"
40 YARD- 4.63
BENCH-

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Read & React: Very good nose for the ball playing near the line or in space. Plays faster than his timed speed indicates because of his football IQ. Aware and reads misdirection on the edge. Gets his hands up to block passes near the line.

Run defense: Takes good angles to the ball and is a reliable tackler in the open. Stands his ground very well against tackles on either side of the line considering he is undersized. Explodes into double teams. Able to punch and disengage to chase down run plays run to his side, but will be engulfed regularly by NFL offensive tackles. Beats cut blocks with his hands, recovers quickly to chase down the ball.

Pass defense: Displays the speed needed to cover tight ends and running backs downfield and in the flat. Attacks plays in front of him, takes good angles and wraps securely. Aware of screens and can take out a running back before quarterback can throw the ball. Better receivers and tight ends will separate from him using their length. Must improve the fluidity in his backpedal and drop to get into position in coverage. Inexperienced recognizing routes and will need to prove he can make the interception.

Tackling: Always hustles to the ball whether the play is on his side or he needs to chase down the line or downfield. Uses his long arms to wrap up securely, can be explosive enough to knock the ball loose. Doesn't have the size or strength to make a lot of arm tackles. Former special teams ace with a future there because of his speed and willingness to throw his body into the fray.

Pass Rush/Blitz: Relentless pass rusher. Often double-teamed and works through blocks and traffic until the ball is away. Explodes from three-point stance or when standing up, although he will be the last guy off the ball at times. Gets the corner against slower tackles and tight ends, and can push them into the pocket using his lack of height to get under their pads. Strong hands to rip off blocks and force fumbles. Stays balanced after a spin or outside-in move. Nice backfield awareness; stays home on misdirection and can disrupt passing lanes with good vertical and arm length if unable to reach the quarterback. Explodes into running back blocks.

Intangibles: Facing a nine-month rehab, at minimum, after tearing ligaments in his knee at the Senior Bowl. Team captain. Looked up to by younger teammates and respected by all players and coaches. Leader by nature, growing up in Navy household and in junior ROTC while in high school. Pushes his teammates to match his standards in the classroom, weight room and practice field.

Chadman
03-23-2010, 07:54 PM
ROUND 5B

CHARLES SCOTT RB LSU
HEIGHT- 5'11"
WEIGHT- 238 LBS
ARMS- 33"
HANDS- 9 1/2"
40 YARD- 4.68
BENCH- 17

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Inside: Big, strong back with good feet for his size. Will hit a hole at full speed out of the I-formation, but also excels on draw plays. Patient to follow the fullback, get skinny through creases and come out the other side ready to bowl over safeties and linebackers. Uses his hands to direct traffic inside, and has the vision to work his way through. Tough for one defender to bring down when he's past the line driving his legs. Strong goal-line runner. Not particularly elusive behind the line, and doesn't sidestep penetrating defenders.

Outside: Runaway freight train in the open field, but does not have the speed most teams prefer in a bell-cow back. Doesn't always see or take advantage of space outside. Lacks the speed to consistently make the corner. Best as a north-south runner, but will make safeties miss one-on-one with a surprisingly quick cutback or stop-and-start move. Keeps four points of pressure or two hands on the ball when contact comes. Switches the ball to the outside hand once out of traffic.

Breaking tackles: Runs with a good lean and lowers his pads to knock over smaller defenders at the second level. Piles up yards after initial contact by running through arm tackles and keeping his feet moving after bouncing off players in traffic. Almost always leans forward for an additional yard or two before going down. Uses his length to stiff-arm closing defenders.

Blocking: Has the size to be effective in pass protection - and likes to be physical - but needs a lot of work in technique. Throws a shoulder into defenders if coming up to help the line, instead of trying to mirror and sustain. Misses blitzers coming off the edge, letting his quarterback take a big shot.

Receiving: Didn't get many opportunities in LSU's offense, but is a tough matchup for cornerbacks to bring down on swing passes. Best catching the ball going upfield. Will make himself available for the quarterback if he's scrambling. Allows throws over the middle to hit his chest. Can elude most linebackers on inside screens and arrow routes, but must make crisper cuts at the next level.

Intangibles: Team player and a tough competitor whether in the weight room, on the practice field or playing in front of the raucous Saturday night Death Valley crowd. Will have to prove that his fractured clavicle is fully healed at the Combine.

NFL Comparison: LaMont Jordan, Broncos

Lebsteel
03-23-2010, 08:02 PM
Oh..........Chadman, I thought maybe you had finally seen the light....but, no, you still have Iupati in Rd. 1 and no longer have Sean Lee in your mock :HeadBanger

Just kidding....Tennant or Walton in Rd. 2 might be realistic...

Chadman
03-23-2010, 08:09 PM
ROUND 5C

REGGIE CARTER ILB UCLA
HEIGHT- 6'0"
WEIGHT- 238 LBS
ARMS-
HANDS-
40 YARD- 4.73
BENCH-

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Read & React: Among his best attributes. Good key and diagnosis skills, though he can be beaten by good play-action. Locates the ball quickly and has little to no wasted motion in getting to the ball. Good gap-disciplined defender who trusts his teammates to be the same.

Run defense: Instinctive defender, but his lack of size and short arms really hurt him in fighting off blocks. Too often caught at the point of attack by blockers. Has the strength and balance to slide off blocks and catch ballcarriers as they run by, but makes many of his tackles only after positive yardage has been gained as a result. Moderate speed to the sideline. Improved as a senior, but still needs to do a better job of protecting his legs from cut-blocks. To his credit, gets up quickly to pursue if initially knocked down.

Pass defense: Better instincts than most inside linebackers in the passing game due to his experience outside. Gains at least adequate depth on his drops, but has only marginal hips and burst out of his cuts for coverage. Aggressive to the line of scrimmage and can be beaten over the top by good play-action.

Tackling: Arguably his most impressive skill. Reliable open-field tackler. Breaks down in space to make the secure, wrap-up stop. Arrives with a thud, showing good explosiveness through his hips to explode into the ballcarrier. Has a knack for forcing fumbles, with five over the past two seasons.

Pass Rush/Blitz: Occasionally used as a stand-up blitzer in this scheme. Aggressively attacks the line and will fight through blocks on his way to the quarterback, though he is often caught up at the line due to his short arms and unrefined pass rush technique. Good vision to locate the ball, despite his lack of height. Good burst to close, but generally requires an open lane to make the play.

Intangibles: Defensive winner of the Charles Pike Memorial Award for his performance on the scout team as a true freshman. Four-year starter. Voted Team Captain in 2009 after earning UCLA's N.N. Sugarman Award for Leadership in 2008. Started the 2007 season at OLB. Known for his toughness. Underwent arthroscopic surgery on his right knee in 2007 to remove his meniscus and started against Cal only 11 days later. Suffered a sprained knee as a senior and though he played through it, was obviously limited.

Chadman
03-23-2010, 08:33 PM
ROUND 6

BRANDON DAEDRICK DE ALABAMA
HEIGHT- 6'4"
WEIGHT- 314 LBS
ARMS- 34 3/8"
HANDS- 9 3/8"
40 YARD- 5.08
BENCH-

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Pass rush: At least moderate initial quickness, but lacks the acceleration to pressure the tackle's outside shoulder. Good use of leverage and strength for the bull rush. Effective swim move. Has to be more consistent getting his hands up in passing lanes. Doesn't protect his knees from the cut-block.

Run defense: His greatest strength. Very good size and strength to hold up to the run. Good use of leverage to anchor. Locates the ball and has powerful hands to stack the offensive tackle and shed the block to make the play in the hole. Only moderate lateral quickness and balance, but good effort to slide down the line in pursuit. Disciplined defender, works hard to keep contain.

Explosion: Inconsistent, but flashes enough initial quickness off the snap to disrupt the timing of the play. Good upper-body strength to rock the tackle back.

Strength: His most impressive trait. Powerful defender. Can control the blocker at the line of scrimmage, shed and make the play in the hole. Good leg drive as a bull-rusher and to anchor.

Tackling: Only moderate lateral agility to break down and make the tackle against quicker athletes. Good strength for the drag-down tackle. Hustles laterally, but has only phone booth quickness and struggles makes few tackles outside of the box.

Intangibles: Immature early in his career, but according to coaches, developed into a leader as a senior. Was arrested on July 14, 2007 and charged with giving a false name to police, resisting arrest, and criminal mischief (for cracking the window inside a patrol car with his head). Was shot in 2009 by a would-be car thief. Deaderick confronted the thief and was shot once. The bullet went through his arm, through his hip and out of an area near his groin. Showing his toughness, Deaderick suited up and played against Virginia Tech less than five days later. Received the team's Up-Front Award for the outstanding lineman in 2008. Won the Billy Neighbors Defensive Lineman Award during spring practice in 2009.

Chadman
03-23-2010, 08:34 PM
ROUND 7A

ADRIAN TRACY OLB WILLIAM & MARY
HEIGHT- 6'3"
WEIGHT- 248 LBS
ARMS- 33 1/2"
HANDS- 9 1/2"
40 YARD- 4.76
BENCH- 20

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02/23/2010 - William and Mary All-American defensive end Adrian Tracy will showcase his talents in front of coaches, scouts and front office personnel from all 32 NFL teams when he participates at the upcoming 2010 Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, Ind. Beginning on Saturday, Feb. 27 and going through Tuesday, March 2, full coverage of the combine will be televised by the NFL Network. Tracy is scheduled to work out with the defensive linemen on Monday, March 1. Tracy becomes the second Tribe player invited to the combine, as offensive lineman Archie Harris participated in the 1987 combine. Honored by five organizations as an All-American in 2009, Tracy established himself as one of the nation's top defensive players and recently competed in the Texas vs. the Nation All-Star Game. A Buchanan Award candidate and a two-time first-team All-Colonial Athletic Association honoree, the Sterling, Va., native ranked seventh nationally with 1.57 tackles for a loss per game and 15th with 0.79 sacks per game last season. With 12 sacks, he equaled the single-season school record established by Luke Cullinane in 1996. Additionally, Tracy ranked sixth in the conference in tackles among defensive linemen with 5.6 per game. In addition to registering an outstanding senior season, the two-time ECAC All-Star was one of the country's top defensive players throughout his career. His 62.5 tackles for a loss led the nation among all active players, while he ranked third with 31 career sacks - a W&M record. He also started every game of his career (47) en route to establishing a school record. - William and Mary football
02/08/2010 - Texas vs. Nation Game Review: William & Mary's Adrian Tracy looked very good in space as a linebacker after playing defensive end in college. He tackled running backs and receivers adeptly and even took on a fullback to blow up a goal line play. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com

Overview
Adrian is a 2005 graduate of Potomac Falls H.S. in Sterling, VA. He earned three varsity letters at a variety of positions, including running back, tight end, linebacker and defensive end for coach Casey Childs. Tracy was also named first team all-district as a senior and was teamís defensive MVP for three consecutive years. He also was a two-year letter winner in basketball and was named district player of the year in basketball as a senior and holds schoolís career records for points (723) and rebounds (507). He served as senior class vice president and a SCA representative.

At W&M, he spent the fall of 2005 on the scout team, and as a RS freshman in 2006 he finished second among all league rookies with 70 total tackles and was a two-time rookie of the week selection. That year, Adrian ranked in the leagueís top-10 in both tackle for loss (Seventh, 15.5) and sacks (Sixth, 6.0). In 2007, he earned starts in all 11 games and tallied 63 tackles, and led the squad with three sacks. He also led the team in tackles for losses with 9.5. In 2008, he really made a splash while totalling 72 tackles, 15.5 tackles for a loss, 10.0 sacks and one blocked kick.
Strengths
Nice size and wingspan. Similar to last years' CAA DE phenom Lawrence Sidbury of Richmond, but is flying further under the radar. Gets our nod as the CAA's top DE prospect narrowly over JMU's Adrian Tracy because of his size and improved play against the run. Makes tackles from the back side. Shows enough quickness and lateral agility to be looked at as a LB, while he has room to get bigger if left as a 4-3 pass rushing end. Comes hard off the edge, and fights down the LOS and ruins the stretch play. Scrapes well. Protects his legs, and plays with energy. Solid citizen.
Weaknesses
Over runs plays at times, and overpursues. May lack the bulk and speed to beat elite NFL OT's if left as an edge rusher. Needs better technique and is still not an elite run defender. Good, not great overall skill set. Slight LOC issues. Can be crushed by bigger run blockers if he gets turned. Still emerging, and may have a ways to go developmentally.
Projection
6-7th.

Chadman
03-23-2010, 08:36 PM
ROUND 7B

SEAN LISSEMORE DT/DE WILLIAM & MARY
HEIGHT- 6'3"
WEIGHT- 297 LBS
ARMS-
HANDS-
40 YARD- 4.82
BENCH-

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Overview
Sean is a 2005 graduate of Dumont (NJ) H.S. where he saw action at both guard and tackle on offense and defensive end and linebacker on defense. Lissemore was named a 1st-team all-league selection as a linebacker in 2004-05 and All-North Jersey Group 2. He was invited to Governorís Bowl and The Bergen All-Star game. Sean was part of his team's best record in 20 years and a berth in state playoffs, and he also earned honorable mention all-county honors. He tallied 120 total tackles (74 solo), nine sacks and one interception during his senior season and also handled the kickoff duties. Sean was also a 4-year letterman and All-League performer in track and field in the 100 and 200 meter. He also competed in the shot put and was a 3-year letter winner in wrestling, where he was also an all-league performer and state medalist at the 215-pound weight class. He was awarded the Dwight D. Eisenhower Leadership award in 2004 and was an Honor Roll student in school.

As a RS freshman in 2006, Sean tallied 33 total tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss and a sack. In '07, he improved to 43-4-2. In 2008, those numbers went to 51-7.5-4.
Strengths
Thick, raw-boned street brawler who is naturally strong and a bit nasty. Does not look all that athletic but can move. Plays better than his athletic numbers and has some room to grow. Penetrates unless double-teamed, and is a good bull rusher. Stalemates OGs his size. Good motor. Pile maker.
Weaknesses
Not all that big for an interior D-line candidate. Can be cut blocked. Has a little upside but will never be more than a journeyman. Doesn't bat balls. Lacks moves.
Projection
Priority UDFA. Work ethic and speed gives him a chance

Chadman
03-23-2010, 11:29 PM
Given that there has only been one complaint about this mock, Chadman is going to assume you all agree that it is awesome & will pass this information onto Mike Tomlin & Kevin Colbert?

NW Steeler
03-24-2010, 01:51 AM
Given that there has only been one complaint about this mock, Chadman is going to assume you all agree that it is awesome & will pass this information onto Mike Tomlin & Kevin Colbert?


Done!

:lol:

Lebsteel
03-24-2010, 09:28 AM
Given that there has only been one complaint about this mock, Chadman is going to assume you all agree that it is awesome & will pass this information onto Mike Tomlin & Kevin Colbert?
I will personally track you down in the wilds of the Australian Outback and beat you over the head with a kangaroo if Tomlin listens to you and drafts an OG in Rd. 1. :lol: :lol:

Chadman
03-24-2010, 09:42 AM
Given that there has only been one complaint about this mock, Chadman is going to assume you all agree that it is awesome & will pass this information onto Mike Tomlin & Kevin Colbert?
I will personally track you down in the wilds of the Australian Outback and beat you over the head with a kangaroo if Tomlin listens to you and drafts an OG in Rd. 1. :lol: :lol:

That'd be worth it, just to see you try & manhandle one.. :D

Oviedo
03-24-2010, 09:45 AM
Chadman--I heard there is a mega-drought in Australia so I'll attribute that to drying up your brain. You can do much better than this :wink:

A Center in Round 2...get real.

OL in both Rounds 1 and 2...please come back to reality. Iupati might be picked in Round 1 but no way we go in both Round 1 and 2 for OL.

Will any of the LBs you listed even get drafted or are they UDFAs?

About the only picks I like are Spievey, Deadrick and Scott, although I think Round 5 is too late to get Scott or Deadrick.

Chadman
03-24-2010, 09:50 AM
Chadman--I heard there is a mega-drought in Australia so I'll attribute that to drying up your brain. You can do much better than this :wink:

A Center in Round 2...get real.

OL in both Rounds 1 and 2...please come back to reality. Iupati might be picked in Round 1 but no way we go in both Round 1 and 2 for OL.

Will any of the LBs you listed even get drafted or are they UDFAs?

About the only picks I like are Spievey, Deadrick and Scott, although I think Round 5 is too late to get Scott or Deadrick.

That's the great thing about messege boards O- even though you are obviously wrong, you can still keep posting... :stirpot

Oviedo
03-24-2010, 09:58 AM
Chadman--I heard there is a mega-drought in Australia so I'll attribute that to drying up your brain. You can do much better than this :wink:

A Center in Round 2...get real.

OL in both Rounds 1 and 2...please come back to reality. Iupati might be picked in Round 1 but no way we go in both Round 1 and 2 for OL.

Will any of the LBs you listed even get drafted or are they UDFAs?

About the only picks I like are Spievey, Deadrick and Scott, although I think Round 5 is too late to get Scott or Deadrick.

That's the great thing about messege boards O- even though you are obviously wrong, you can still keep posting... :stirpot

I've never experienced that since I am never wrong :wink:

But keep them coming. I'll do my final in about a week or so and you can tell me what a l :loser I am

The one thing I have learned over the last couple of years is whatever we predict, we will be 80% wrong. Only picks I called right last year were Joe Burnett and Urbik.

JTP53609
03-24-2010, 10:04 AM
nobody from UCLA please I have seen enough with davis, farmar and farris over the years

ikestops85
03-24-2010, 11:52 AM
Chadman, you just keep posting ... I never get tired of seeing the girl in your sig. :Boobs

pfelix73
03-24-2010, 01:07 PM
Sorry- Not impressed with the first few rounds of your mock. Just my opinion and I think you can do better on this. :lol:

:tt1

Oviedo
03-24-2010, 02:31 PM
Sorry- Not impressed with the first few rounds of your mock. Just my opinion and I think you can do better on this. :lol:

:tt1

:Agree Maybe Chadbaby is forcing him to take his eye off the ball. Truly not an effort up to past Chadman standards.

Chadman
03-24-2010, 05:34 PM
Haha....no need to bring Chadbaby into calculations! This was all Chadman's doing.

It's not a 'sexy' draft, but it fits the FO's desire to improve the running game. It also adds a good CB, and future depth at LB & DL.

You guys don't know what you are talking about.... :moon

hawaiiansteel
03-24-2010, 05:56 PM
nobody from UCLA please I have seen enough with davis, farmar and farris over the years



but what if he turns out like Carnell Lake? :D

Chadman
03-24-2010, 06:44 PM
Well, let's not leave this mock to die as simply another 'mock draft' thread- let's hear what you guys that don't like it have to say- why don't you like it? where would you improve it? what reasoning do you have for pro's & con's about this mock?

Too many mocks are thrown out there and left to wither. Draft is coming up- let's get some draft talk going!

Lebsteel
03-24-2010, 08:03 PM
Given that there has only been one complaint about this mock, Chadman is going to assume you all agree that it is awesome & will pass this information onto Mike Tomlin & Kevin Colbert?
I will personally track you down in the wilds of the Australian Outback and beat you over the head with a kangaroo if Tomlin listens to you and drafts an OG in Rd. 1. :lol: :lol:

That'd be worth it, just to see you try & manhandle one.. :D
You mean like this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36tBS6dXo-U

JTP53609
03-25-2010, 07:34 AM
nobody from UCLA please I have seen enough with davis, farmar and farris over the years



but what if he turns out like Carnell Lake? :D

than no complaints on my end...

Oviedo
03-25-2010, 08:26 AM
Well, let's not leave this mock to die as simply another 'mock draft' thread- let's hear what you guys that don't like it have to say- why don't you like it? where would you improve it? what reasoning do you have for pro's & con's about this mock?

Too many mocks are thrown out there and left to wither. Draft is coming up- let's get some draft talk going!

As I said I can live with Iupati (of course I'd go after Spiller, even if trade up required) and I really like Spievey. I think what we don't know is how serious the staff is about Legursky at C or even the rumors about Urbik getting a look there. I just don't think with a new OL coach they are going to hand him the first two picks in this draft. More likely they are going to take a year and see what he can do with what he has.

In Round 2, I think I would be looking at DL or ILB. I know that everybody thinks Foote coming back has eliminated the ILB need, but I don't agree. If Farrior is indeed "done" then we are right back to where we were last year with no one in the back up role who could step in as a future long term solution.

I have no idea where you got the LBs you identfied. I don't think either will even be drafted.

In closing, I'll beat the drum I have for two months now. We have a serious need at RB. IMO with the off season signing it is our biggest need. We have nothing behind Mendy. If Mendy is injured in the first or second game of the season we are screwed. There is no one on the roster that can carry this team for 3-4 games let alone a season if required. I think we need to draft two RBs in this draft unless Summers is showing he can be a real asset.

RuthlessBurgher
03-25-2010, 09:54 AM
Well, let's not leave this mock to die as simply another 'mock draft' thread- let's hear what you guys that don't like it have to say- why don't you like it? where would you improve it? what reasoning do you have for pro's & con's about this mock?

Too many mocks are thrown out there and left to wither. Draft is coming up- let's get some draft talk going!

As I said I can live with Iupati (of course I'd go after Spiller, even if trade up required) and I really like Spievey. I think what we don't know is how serious the staff is about Legursky at C or even the rumors about Urbik getting a look there. I just don't think with a new OL coach they are going to hand him the first two picks in this draft. More likely they are going to take a year and see what he can do with what he has.

In Round 2, I think I would be looking at DL or ILB. I know that everybody thinks Foote coming back has eliminated the ILB need, but I don't agree. If Farrior is indeed "done" then we are right back to where we were last year with no one in the back up role who could step in as a future long term solution.

I have no idea where you got the LBs you identfied. I don't think either will even be drafted.

In closing, I'll beat the drum I have for two months now. We have a serious need at RB. IMO with the off season signing it is our biggest need. We have nothing behind Mendy. If Mendy is injured in the first or second game of the season we are screwed. There is no one on the roster that can carry this team for 3-4 games let alone a season if required. I think we need to draft two RBs in this draft unless Summers is showing he can be a real asset.

For what it's worth, the Bills drafted two interior o-lineman in rounds 1 and 2 for Kugler last year (Eric Wood and Andy Levitre) and he was able to utilize their talents as rookies.

Chadman
03-25-2010, 10:53 AM
have no idea where you got the LBs you identfied. I don't think either will even be drafted.

Do yourself a favour & do some research on O'Brien Schofield. He's a player.

Chadman
03-25-2010, 10:54 AM
Well, let's not leave this mock to die as simply another 'mock draft' thread- let's hear what you guys that don't like it have to say- why don't you like it? where would you improve it? what reasoning do you have for pro's & con's about this mock?

Too many mocks are thrown out there and left to wither. Draft is coming up- let's get some draft talk going!

As I said I can live with Iupati (of course I'd go after Spiller, even if trade up required) and I really like Spievey. I think what we don't know is how serious the staff is about Legursky at C or even the rumors about Urbik getting a look there. I just don't think with a new OL coach they are going to hand him the first two picks in this draft. More likely they are going to take a year and see what he can do with what he has.

In Round 2, I think I would be looking at DL or ILB. I know that everybody thinks Foote coming back has eliminated the ILB need, but I don't agree. If Farrior is indeed "done" then we are right back to where we were last year with no one in the back up role who could step in as a future long term solution.

I have no idea where you got the LBs you identfied. I don't think either will even be drafted.

In closing, I'll beat the drum I have for two months now. We have a serious need at RB. IMO with the off season signing it is our biggest need. We have nothing behind Mendy. If Mendy is injured in the first or second game of the season we are screwed. There is no one on the roster that can carry this team for 3-4 games let alone a season if required. I think we need to draft two RBs in this draft unless Summers is showing he can be a real asset.

For what it's worth, the Bills drafted two interior o-lineman in rounds 1 and 2 for Kugler last year (Eric Wood and Andy Levitre) and he was able to utilize their talents as rookies.

What? You mean rookies started?

:D

Oviedo
03-25-2010, 11:02 AM
have no idea where you got the LBs you identfied. I don't think either will even be drafted.

Do yourself a favour & do some research on O'Brien Schofield. He's a player.

Very familiar with Schofield and I do like him as an option even though he is out for the season with an injury and you may not know what you got. Shouldn't be an issue for us because LeBeau wouldn't play him for a year anyway.

My comments were more towards Carter and Tracy.

NW Steeler
03-25-2010, 11:06 AM
I think that your draft at the top end makes a lot of sense. We definitely need to upgrade at C and G. Iupati will be a road grader for sure, but I'm not sure if he will be an improvement in pass protection (I base that only on what I have heard, not seen myself). I think we still have a need at ILB, OLB and S/CB. What is the most pressing? That is debatable for sure. I know I'd be fine with Iupati in the first, but I'd also like to see us draft Spoon or Thomas as well. I don't see us drafting Spiller, but I think we will draft a RB by the end of the fourth round though. I don't know much about the rest of the guys in your mock Chadman, but I certainly appreciate the effort!

Chadman
03-25-2010, 11:07 AM
Oh!

Carter has a good body of work from a decent school, and appears reasonably athletic.

Tracy gets a look because of his college- same as Coach Tomlin's. Also, reports say he looked good at the combine.

Oviedo
03-25-2010, 11:13 AM
Oh!

Carter has a good body of work from a decent school, and appears reasonably athletic.

Tracy gets a look because of his college- same as Coach Tomlin's. Also, reports say he looked good at the combine.

At least by one source, Carter is listed as a 7th Round choice and dropping

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/pros ... X/2010_ILB (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2010_ILB)

Tracy is listed as a 6/7 Round pick

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/pros ... X/2010_OLB (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2010_OLB)