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cruzer8
03-22-2010, 05:43 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth

The Pittsburgh Steelers earned two fifth-round compensatory picks (No. 164 and No. 166) and a seventh rounder (No. 242).

hawaiiansteel
03-22-2010, 05:48 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth

The Pittsburgh Steelers earned two fifth-round compensatory picks (No. 164 and No. 166) and a seventh rounder (No. 242).



that Adam dude who forecasts compensatory picks was right...


Compensatory picks revealed

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 22, 2010


The Cincinnati Bengals were the big winners when the NFL awarded compensatory picks Monday, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Cincinnati was one of three teams to get a third-round compensatory pick (No. 96) and received the only fourth-round pick (No. 131) to boot. T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Stacy Andrews, and Eric Ghiaciuc were among the players to leave the Bengals last offseason.

Tennessee and Atlanta also got extra picks in the third round.

Here is the full list of compensatory picks awarded according to Schefter, with the overall pick next to each:

Round 3

Cincinnati -- 96
Tennessee -- 97
Atlanta -- 98

Round 4

Cincinnati -- 131

Round 5

Pittsburgh -- 164
Atlanta -- 165
Pittsburgh -- 166
Minnesota -- 167
San Diego -- 168
Green Bay -- 169

Round 6

Carolina -- 202
Jacksonville -- 203
Carolina -- 204
New England -- 205
San Francisco -- 206
Tennessee -- 207

Round 7

Indianapolis -- 240
Tennessee -- 241
Pittsburgh -- 242
Philadelphia -- 243
Philadelphia -- 244
Seattle -- 245
Indianapolis -- 246
New England -- 247
New England -- 248
Carolina -- 249
New England -- 250
Oakland -- 251
Miami -- 252
Tampa Bay -- 253
St. Louis -- 254
Detroit -- 255

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -revealed/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/22/compensatory-picks-revealed/)

hawaiiansteel
03-22-2010, 06:04 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth

The Pittsburgh Steelers earned two fifth-round compensatory picks (No. 164 and No. 166) and a seventh rounder (No. 242).


this now gives us ten draft choices, a lot of ammunition that can be used to target specific players and/or trade up in a round if we spot another Ricardo Colclough, I mean Troy Polamalu type of player.


(1) Round 1 choice
(1) Round 2 "
(1) Round 3 choice
(1) Round 4 choice
(3) Round 5 choices
(1) Round 6 choice
(2) Round 7 choices

Iron Shiek
03-22-2010, 07:20 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth

The Pittsburgh Steelers earned two fifth-round compensatory picks (No. 164 and No. 166) and a seventh rounder (No. 242).


this now gives us ten draft choices, a lot of ammunition that can be used to target specific players and/or trade up in a round if we spot another Ricardo Colclough, I mean Troy Polamalu type of player.


(1) Round 1 choice
(1) Round 2 "
(1) Round 3 choice
(1) Round 4 choice
(3) Round 5 choices
(1) Round 6 choice
(2) Round 7 choices


As always, remember the honorary "Ruthlessburger" warning, we can't trade the comp picks.

RuthlessBurgher
03-22-2010, 07:30 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth

The Pittsburgh Steelers earned two fifth-round compensatory picks (No. 164 and No. 166) and a seventh rounder (No. 242).


this now gives us ten draft choices, a lot of ammunition that can be used to target specific players and/or trade up in a round if we spot another Ricardo Colclough, I mean Troy Polamalu type of player.


(1) Round 1 choice
(1) Round 2 "
(1) Round 3 choice
(1) Round 4 choice
(3) Round 5 choices
(1) Round 6 choice
(2) Round 7 choices


As always, remember the honorary "Ruthlessburger" warning, we can't trade the comp picks.

Now that you mention it, that reminds me...compensatory draft picks are untradeable (but they do make it easier for you to trade your other regular picks). :wink:

MeetJoeGreene
03-23-2010, 08:14 AM
Now I can finally think about the possibility of potentially getting up enough nerve to consider planning on attempting my first ever mock draft.

Oviedo
03-23-2010, 08:39 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth

The Pittsburgh Steelers earned two fifth-round compensatory picks (No. 164 and No. 166) and a seventh rounder (No. 242).


this now gives us ten draft choices, a lot of ammunition that can be used to target specific players and/or trade up in a round if we spot another Ricardo Colclough, I mean Troy Polamalu type of player.


(1) Round 1 choice
(1) Round 2 "
(1) Round 3 choice
(1) Round 4 choice
(3) Round 5 choices
(1) Round 6 choice
(2) Round 7 choices


As always, remember the honorary "Ruthlessburger" warning, we can't trade the comp picks.

Now that you mention it, that reminds me...compensatory draft picks are untradeable (but they do make it easier for you to trade your other regular picks). :wink:

It also helps to have someone who wants to trade with you. That is the problem with all the "proposed" trades we see. Very few people will want to give up draft picks or position.

The interesting dynamic this year is the three day format where you have two overnights to wheel and deal. The number of trades may increase because of that.

papillon
03-23-2010, 08:44 AM
Now I can finally think about the possibility of potentially getting up enough nerve to consider planning on attempting my first ever mock draft.

That's an excellent mock draft. :moon :P

Pappy

RuthlessBurgher
03-23-2010, 09:35 AM
Here are our picks with their corresponding values on the trade chart (I'm not messing with decimals for late round picks...I'm rounding off):

1.18 (900 points)
2.52 (380 points)
3.82 (180 points)
4.116 (62 points)
5.151 (31 points)
5.164 (untradeable)
5.166 (untradeable)
6.188 (17 points)
7.225 (3 points)
7.242 (untradeable)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2548/copyofdraftvaluechart.jpg

D Rock
03-23-2010, 09:55 AM
The Steelers 2, 3, and 5 could potentially be enough to get them into the back end of the first round. I can't ever remember the Steelers wheeling and dealing to get a second 1st rounder, but I also don't remember them ever being this active in FA.

And with a potential lockout next year, maybe they want to get a second elite player to have gotten some game time in before the 2012 season. I know there's still a 2011 draft, but without a season to play and show what they got...there's gonna be a lot of doubt heading into 2012 unless some guys can prove this season they are capable players.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
03-24-2010, 01:38 AM
OK, can anyone please explain to this ignorant fan what a comp pick is, etc.?

Uh, what I mean is, I got this friend see, and he was wondering what a comp pick was, and I was just wondering what you guys would tell him, not that I don't know myself, but I was just wondering what you guys would say ...

Thanks :D

hawaiiansteel
03-24-2010, 01:40 AM
The Steelers 2, 3, and 5 could potentially be enough to get them into the back end of the first round. I can't ever remember the Steelers wheeling and dealing to get a second 1st rounder, but I also don't remember them ever being this active in FA.

And with a potential lockout next year, maybe they want to get a second elite player to have gotten some game time in before the 2012 season. I know there's still a 2011 draft, but without a season to play and show what they got...there's gonna be a lot of doubt heading into 2012 unless some guys can prove this season they are capable players.



in a draft this deep, i would rather have the 2, 3 and the 5.

this is the year to trade down (if you can find someone who wants to trade up), this is one of the best draft classes we've had in a long, long time...

RuthlessBurgher
03-24-2010, 09:23 AM
OK, can anyone please explain to this ignorant fan what a comp pick is, etc.?

Uh, what I mean is, I got this friend see, and he was wondering what a comp pick was, and I was just wondering what you guys would tell him, not that I don't know myself, but I was just wondering what you guys would say ...

Thanks :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft#Compensatory_picks


Compensatory picks

In addition to the 32 picks in each round, there are a total of 32 picks awarded at the ends of Rounds 3 through 7. These picks, known as "compensatory picks," are awarded to teams that have lost more qualifying free agents than they gained the previous year in free agency. Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks. Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick.

If fewer than 32 such picks are awarded, the remaining picks are awarded in the order in which teams would pick in a hypothetical eighth round of the draft (These are known as "supplemental compensatory selections").

Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft.


We got two 5th round comp picks because Bryant McFadden signed a deal for $4.75 million per season with Arizona and Nate Washington signed a deal for $4.47 million per year from Tennessee, plus a 7th round comp pick because Byron Leftwich a $2 million per year deal with Tampa. The only free agents that we signed last off-season were Shaun McDonald and Keiwan Ratliff, and both were minimal deals that did not qualify for the compensatory formula.

Next year, we should not get any comp picks after signing so many guys in free agency this off-season (I could see us trading away a pick or two this year for a pick or two next year, and teams tend to be willing to give up a pick in a round earlier the following season). This happens all the time. Last year, the Panthers wanted Everette Brown in round 2, so they gave San Francisco their 1st round pick this year. Last year, the Broncos wanted Alphonso Smith in round 2, so they gave Seattle their 1st round pick this year. That is why the Niners and Seahawks both have two early first round picks this year. Last year, the Jaguars wanted Derek Cox in round 3, so they gave New England their 2nd round pick this year. Last year, the Titans wanted Jared Cook in round 3, so they gave New England their 2nd round pick this year. That is why New England has three 2nd round picks this year. I'd take advantage of the fact that we have 10 picks this year (and will only have 7 next year since we won't be getting any comp picks next year) and maybe try to trade our 4th this year for a 3rd next year (or something like that).

SanAntonioSteelerFan
03-25-2010, 01:48 PM
OK, can anyone please explain to this ignorant fan what a comp pick is, etc.?

Uh, what I mean is, I got this friend see, and he was wondering what a comp pick was, and I was just wondering what you guys would tell him, not that I don't know myself, but I was just wondering what you guys would say ...

Thanks :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft#Compensatory_picks


Compensatory picks

In addition to the 32 picks in each round, there are a total of 32 picks awarded at the ends of Rounds 3 through 7. These picks, known as "compensatory picks," are awarded to teams that have lost more qualifying free agents than they gained the previous year in free agency. Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks. Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick.

If fewer than 32 such picks are awarded, the remaining picks are awarded in the order in which teams would pick in a hypothetical eighth round of the draft (These are known as "supplemental compensatory selections").

Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft.


We got two 5th round comp picks because Bryant McFadden signed a deal for $4.75 million per season with Arizona and Nate Washington signed a deal for $4.47 million per year from Tennessee, plus a 7th round comp pick because Byron Leftwich a $2 million per year deal with Tampa. The only free agents that we signed last off-season were Shaun McDonald and Keiwan Ratliff, and both were minimal deals that did not qualify for the compensatory formula.

Next year, we should not get any comp picks after signing so many guys in free agency this off-season (I could see us trading away a pick or two this year for a pick or two next year, and teams tend to be willing to give up a pick in a round earlier the following season). This happens all the time. Last year, the Panthers wanted Everette Brown in round 2, so they gave San Francisco their 1st round pick this year. Last year, the Broncos wanted Alphonso Smith in round 2, so they gave Seattle their 1st round pick this year. That is why the Niners and Seahawks both have two early first round picks this year. Last year, the Jaguars wanted Derek Cox in round 3, so they gave New England their 2nd round pick this year. Last year, the Titans wanted Jared Cook in round 3, so they gave New England their 2nd round pick this year. That is why New England has three 2nd round picks this year. I'd take advantage of the fact that we have 10 picks this year (and will only have 7 next year since we won't be getting any comp picks next year) and maybe try to trade our 4th this year for a 3rd next year (or something like that).


Thanks, Ruth, completely helpful reply, I appreciate it.

I have no idea how I got to this stage of life and had never heard of comps before.

:wft :D

AngryAsian
03-25-2010, 04:19 PM
OK, can anyone please explain to this ignorant fan what a comp pick is, etc.?

Uh, what I mean is, I got this friend see, and he was wondering what a comp pick was, and I was just wondering what you guys would tell him, not that I don't know myself, but I was just wondering what you guys would say ...

Thanks :D


This wouldn't happen to be the same friend who got that strange rash on the nether regions during college? :lol: :lol: :lol: