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flippy
03-15-2010, 03:45 PM
How many rookies can realistically make our roster next year?

4 or 5?

Less or more?

We definitely seem to have too many picks.

And some UDFA will likely pan out.

So what do we do?

Trade for picks next year?

or move up this year?

Lebsteel
03-15-2010, 04:03 PM
Move up in Rd. 2 and get one of the top CBs.

calmkiller
03-15-2010, 04:11 PM
No one thought we would use all 10 picks last year either. True we didn't we ended up with 9 picks and we used them after trading down and then back up to get 3 3rd rounders. Most of them made the team/PS. Anything can happen.

steelerkeylargo
03-15-2010, 04:20 PM
QB=(3)-Ben, Dennis,???
RB=(4)-Mendy, Mewelde, Logan, ???
FB=(2) Mchugh, Davis??
WR=(5) Ward, Holmes, Wallace, Randle El, Sweed??
TE=(3) Miller, Spaeth (ugh), Johnson
OL=(9) Starks, Kemo, Hartwig, Essex,Colon, Foster, Legursky, Scott or Hills??, Urbik
DL=(6) Smith, Hampton, Keisel, Hood, Hoke, Kirscke?? or Harris??
LB=(8)Harrison, Timmons,Farrior,Woodley, Foote, Fox,???,???
CB=(5) Taylor, Gay, Lewis, Burnett, ???
S=(4) Troy, Clark, Allen??, Mundy??
LS=(1)Warren/Retofsky
P=(1)Spulveda
K=(1) Reed

That makes 52 players.....Prob another OL and Maybe anothe WR or RB

with 11 players as ?????

So there are plenty of spots for improvement

Chadman
03-15-2010, 06:12 PM
It'll depend on the quality of the rookie in question, but you'd have to assume that guys like Ramon Foster, Doug Legursky, RaShon Harris, Anthony Maddison, Tyler Grisham, Ryan Mundy, Patrick Bailey, Andre Frazier, Tony Hills, Stefon Logan, Sean McHugh, Limas Sweed & Trae Williams could all be IMPROVED on if the right sort of rookie was brought in.

That's 13 guys that could be replaced.

And, in an uncapped year, if the Steelers can improve on some of the more established players, there is some chance they might try to dump their high salaries in the year that they suffer no cap penalty. Guys like Farrior, Hoke or possibly even Big Max.

It'll all depend on the quality coming in.

Lebsteel
03-15-2010, 09:18 PM
QB=(3)-Ben, Dennis,???
RB=(4)-Mendy, Mewelde, Logan, ???
FB=(2) Mchugh, Davis??
WR=(5) Ward, Holmes, Wallace, Randle El, Sweed??
TE=(3) Miller, Spaeth (ugh), Johnson
OL=(9) Starks, Kemo, Hartwig, Essex,Colon, Foster, Legursky, Scott or Hills??, Urbik
DL=(6) Smith, Hampton, Keisel, Hood, Hoke, Kirscke?? or Harris??
LB=(8)Harrison, Timmons,Farrior,Woodley, Foote, Fox,???,???
CB=(5) Taylor, Gay, Lewis, Burnett, ???
S=(4) Troy, Clark, Allen??, Mundy??
LS=(1)Warren/Retofsky
P=(1)Spulveda
K=(1) Reed

That makes 52 players.....Prob another OL and Maybe anothe WR or RB

with 11 players as ?????

So there are plenty of spots for improvement
Don't forget Arnaz Battle who we just signed at WR

Steel Life
03-15-2010, 10:42 PM
Players on the Bubble:
RB = Mewelde (Draft Pick could easily take his touches)
FB = McHugh, Davis (Only survives & possibly both if "The Tank" shows up to play)
WR = Sweed, Battle, Logan (Sweed...nevermind, Battle isn't a given, Logan sees Randle El)
OL = Essex, Hills (Hills is out of time & Essex could be passed by Foster, Urbik & Draft Pick)
DL = Hoke, Kirschke, Harris (Kirschke could retire, Hoke & Harris could be pushed out by Draft Pick)
LB = Bailey, Frazier (Bailey is replaceable & Frazier is nothing special...look for Draft Pick)
CB = Madison (Madison is always on the bubble & there will be at least one Draft Pick to worry about)
LS = Warren, Retofsky (One of these two will go)

Oviedo
03-16-2010, 08:12 AM
Players on the Bubble:
RB = Mewelde (Draft Pick could easily take his touches)
FB = McHugh, Davis (Only survives & possibly both if "The Tank" shows up to play)
WR = Sweed, Battle, Logan (Sweed...nevermind, Battle isn't a given, Logan sees Randle El)
OL = Essex, Hills (Hills is out of time & Essex could be passed by Foster, Urbik & Draft Pick)
DL = Hoke, Kirschke, Harris (Kirschke could retire, Hoke & Harris could be pushed out by Draft Pick)
LB = Bailey, Frazier (Bailey is replaceable & Frazier is nothing special...look for Draft Pick)
CB = Madison (Madison is always on the bubble & there will be at least one Draft Pick to worry about)
LS = Warren, Retofsky (One of these two will go)

Kirschke is already gone as a UFA. I'll give you another player who I think doesn't have a lock on a roster spot...James Farrior. Add Matt Spaeth to the list of Bubble players. Other than that you pretty much have the same list I have.

I think the staff saw complacency last season that they won't tolerate this year and competition for roster spots will be more intense which is why the free agents were brought in.

ramblinjim
03-16-2010, 08:18 AM
:Agree

I agree with Ovie about complacency although I would be surprised to see Farrior get cut even with his perceived slow down last year. I only say perceived b/c we don't know if he perhaps tweaked a hammie or an ankle last season and was hobbled a bit.

Slapstick
03-16-2010, 09:54 AM
Why do people always seem to think that Mewelde Moore and Chris Hoke are on some kind of bubble?

There are two players who ALWAYS perform when their number is called...why would you cut a player like that?

Oviedo
03-16-2010, 11:16 AM
Why do people always seem to think that Mewelde Moore and Chris Hoke are on some kind of bubble?

There are two players who ALWAYS perform when their number is called...why would you cut a player like that?

Because their number isn't called that often and that put them at risk if a young stud comes in and lights it up. Hoke is probably safer IMO than Moore because Moore plays one of the easiest positions in the NFL to replace and restock...RB. Plus Mendy has the ability to stay on the field on 3rd down. Something we did not have with Bettis or FWP. Mendy adds a new dimension that could make a "designated" 3rd down back unnecessary.

flippy
03-16-2010, 04:06 PM
Why do people always seem to think that Mewelde Moore and Chris Hoke are on some kind of bubble?

There are two players who ALWAYS perform when their number is called...why would you cut a player like that?

Because their number isn't called that often and that put them at risk if a young stud comes in and lights it up. Hoke is probably safer IMO than Moore because Moore plays one of the easiest positions in the NFL to replace and restock...RB. Plus Mendy has the ability to stay on the field on 3rd down. Something we did not have with Bettis or FWP. Mendy adds a new dimension that could make a "designated" 3rd down back unnecessary.

We'd be crazy to cut Moore. He's a 3rd down machine. Most important down in football.

It'd be like the Pats cutting Kevin Faulk.

flippy
03-16-2010, 04:08 PM
Yeah, there's always lots of room for improvement, but realistically, I only see 4-5 rooks making the team.

And you figure we'll have some luck with a UDFA or 2.

So we need 2-3 good picks in the draft.

Give some room for error and we can trade half of our picks to move up or amass more picks next year.

pfelix73
03-16-2010, 05:10 PM
Yea, not much room there for rookies to make this veteran team. Your about right.. 4-5 maybe....

Oviedo
03-16-2010, 05:25 PM
I think we have 9 or 10 picks in the draft. So if 4-5 rookies make the team does that mean we will hear about what terrible talent evaluators Tomlin and Colbert are for all of next season because there wasn't room for all the draft picks? Plus, of the 4-5 rookies that do make the team won't 25-50% be labelled as "busts" by the middle of October.

pfelix73
03-16-2010, 05:30 PM
That's just the nature of the beast when you are a team like the Steelers and not the Lions or Rams. Not many spots for guys to take and that's a good thing. Thank your lucky stars that you are a Steelers fan!
:tt2

flippy
03-17-2010, 09:11 AM
That's just the nature of the beast when you are a team like the Steelers and not the Lions or Rams. Not many spots for guys to take and that's a good thing. Thank your lucky stars that you are a Steelers fan!
:tt2

Yet we lost 5 straight and didn't make the playoffs.

I'm still a bit bummed this offseason.