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JAR
03-12-2010, 03:45 PM
MILLEDGEVILLE, Ga. -- A young woman told Channel 4 Action News on Friday that she was one of about 20 who partied with Ben Roethlisberger at the Capital City nightclub last week on the night that a female college student told police she was sexually assaulted by the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback.

"Everyone keeps talking about how nice he was. He was not nice," the woman said.

She told reporter Ari Hait that people who were with Roethlisberger invited her into the VIP area of the club in Milledgeville, Ga. She said the quarterback hit on her there and she found him to be arrogant, so she left.

"He bought a round of shots for girls and said, 'All you bitches, take my shots,' and I got pissed because that's very rude and disrespectful to call girls a bunch of bitches," she said.

The woman said that, before she left, she saw Roethlisberger with the woman who would eventually become his accuser. She didn't think anything of it until the next morning when she heard about the accusations.

Look for updates on this page and hear the woman's story tonight on WTAE Channel 4 Action News at 5 p.m.

Roethlisberger has not been charged with any crimes. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation is continuing to investigate the 20-year-old woman's claims of what happened to her in the early-morning hours of March 5.

Hait reported that Roethlisberger has hired private investigator Charles Mittelstadt, who has worked on behalf of Baltimore Ravens star Ray Lewis and rapper T.I. in the past. Also working for Roethlisberger is attorney Ed Garland, who represented Lewis on a murder charge in 2000 that was eventually dropped.

Mittelstadt told Channel 4 Action News on Friday that his team is looking into every aspect of the woman's allegation, including her sobriety on the night in question.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/spo ... etail.html (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/sports/22822650/detail.html)

ghettoscott
03-12-2010, 03:54 PM
"He bought a round of shots for girls and said, 'All you bitches, take my shots,' and I got pissed because that's very rude and disrespectful to call girls a bunch of bitches," she said.


:?

All you bitches take my shots? really?..

JAR
03-12-2010, 03:57 PM
"He bought a round of shots for girls and said, 'All you bitches, take my shots,' and I got pissed because that's very rude and disrespectful to call girls a bunch of bitches," she said.


:?

All you bitches take my shots? really?..

I know, but kids use the word bitch differently these days. My 19 year old daughter and all of her friends call each other bitches.

ghettoscott
03-12-2010, 04:01 PM
"He bought a round of shots for girls and said, 'All you bitches, take my shots,' and I got pissed because that's very rude and disrespectful to call girls a bunch of bitches," she said.


:?

All you bitches take my shots? really?..

I know, but kids use the word bitch differently these days. My 19 year old daughter and all of her friends call each other bitches.


just doesnt sound like something Ben would say....dont really know how i qualify that...just seems a bit out of place....

papillon
03-12-2010, 04:24 PM
Now that Ben has a PI involved anyone saying anything without an attorney is potentially asking for trouble. They need to ensure that someone can corroborate what was said or they'll find themselves all fair game to the investigator's microscope. If it was said, that's fine, if it wasn't these guys will tear this college kids apart.

All the investigator needs is one woman to say Ben was a complete gentleman and the accuser and her friend now look like idiots even if Ben used the "B" word when referring to all the ladies at the party.

Pappy

SteelAbility
03-12-2010, 04:29 PM
"He bought a round of shots for girls and said, 'All you bitches, take my shots,' and I got pissed because that's very rude and disrespectful to call girls a bunch of bitches," she said.


:?

All you bitches take my shots? really?..

I know, but kids use the word bitch differently these days. My 19 year old daughter and all of her friends call each other bitches.

It's different when you know each other. It's also different when it's a girl saying to a girl versus a guy to a girl.

SteelAbility
03-12-2010, 04:33 PM
The testimony of this girl is difficult to discern. Obviously there is a tendency to back her school mates. So is it made up to make the accusation credible or does it represent reality? And if it does represent reality, whose reality? It may have come across rude to her but Ben meant it light-heartedly (although thoughtlessly). He was probably a bit inebriated, I would think. :Cheers

Jom112
03-12-2010, 04:35 PM
Wonder if the 20 year old is one of the bitches, I mean girls, he brought shots for?

SteelAbility
03-12-2010, 04:38 PM
Wonder if the 20 year old is one of the bitches, I mean girls, he brought shots for?

She may have actually been categorized with the beyotches. I heard Ben makes a distinction. :wink:

ghettoscott
03-12-2010, 04:49 PM
...He was probably a bit inebriated, I would think. :Cheers

I thought reports said Ben wasn't drinking? maybe nursing a beer or two? "take my shots all you bitches" sounds like drunk frat boy talk...

and why isnt the word "bitches" censored but "DicK" LeBeau is?....sexist message board...i am suing someone over this.....

feltdizz
03-12-2010, 05:15 PM
All you bitches take my shots! Was he talking about liquor or his liquid?

He has to settle. Unless this girl has previous false accusations I don't see how he wins this case.

fezziwig
03-12-2010, 05:26 PM
Are there any new updates ? Has Ben given his DNA ? Will Ben need to go there to give his DNA or will they do it at some agency or police station here ?

I'm teling you guys, this could get uglier than we can imagine. Not only the bad press, the black eye the organization, fans and everyone can and has received. We could end up losing Ben and forever have to get our chops busted for having this happen. If he is found guilty that is.

Shawn
03-12-2010, 05:35 PM
All you bitches take my shots! Was he talking about liquor or his liquid?

He has to settle. Unless this girl has previous false accusations I don't see how he wins this case.

Based on what evidence? The fact that you would like to see our QB go down in a cloud of smoke so Dixon can lead this team to "victory"?

Shawn
03-12-2010, 05:43 PM
Biatches can be derrogatory or a term of frivolity...even intimacy. I don't see anyone proving what he meant by the term.

Shawn
03-12-2010, 05:45 PM
Are there any new updates ? Has Ben given his DNA ? Will Ben need to go there to give his DNA or will they do it at some agency or police station here ?

I'm teling you guys, this could get uglier than we can imagine. Not only the bad press, the black eye the organization, fans and everyone can and has received. We could end up losing Ben and forever have to get our chops busted for having this happen. If he is found guilty that is.

I suspect Ben won't help the authorities build their case. He knows DNA was exchanged. That won't help his case. He is getting good advice. Make them get enough evidence to press charges...don't just hand it over.

feltdizz
03-13-2010, 02:27 AM
All you bitches take my shots! Was he talking about liquor or his liquid?

He has to settle. Unless this girl has previous false accusations I don't see how he wins this case.

Based on what evidence? The fact that you would like to see our QB go down in a cloud of smoke so Dixon can lead this team to "victory"?

"all you bitches..." :Beer

flippy
03-13-2010, 04:20 AM
20 year olds taking shots with Ben....hmmm

Discipline of Steel
03-13-2010, 06:48 AM
"He bought a round of shots for girls and said, 'All you bitches, take my shots,' and I got pissed because that's very rude and disrespectful to call girls a bunch of bitches," she said.


:?

All you bitches take my shots? really?..

I know, but kids use the word bitch differently these days. My 19 year old daughter and all of her friends call each other bitches.

Very similar to how the 'N' word is used but respectful people dont use either word directly.

The Man of Steel
03-13-2010, 10:54 AM
Physically Ben might be 28 years old but after all of those concussions he's suffered I'm guessing that mentally he has a brain similar to that of a 42 year-old man going through a mid-life crisis.

Shawn
03-13-2010, 11:15 AM
"He bought a round of shots for girls and said, 'All you bitches, take my shots,' and I got pissed because that's very rude and disrespectful to call girls a bunch of bitches," she said.


:?

All you bitches take my shots? really?..

I know, but kids use the word bitch differently these days. My 19 year old daughter and all of her friends call each other bitches.

Very similar to how the 'N' word is used but respectful people dont use either word directly.

Both words have been changed slightly and turned into terms that do not mean that of the original. I have used the word byotch messing around before and I would like to think that I am a respectful person.

Shawn
03-13-2010, 11:17 AM
All you bitches take my shots! Was he talking about liquor or his liquid?

He has to settle. Unless this girl has previous false accusations I don't see how he wins this case.

Based on what evidence? The fact that you would like to see our QB go down in a cloud of smoke so Dixon can lead this team to "victory"?

"all you bitches..." :Beer

I'm sure you do.

feltdizz
03-13-2010, 01:57 PM
Shawn.

No one on here said they hoped or predicted Ben would have a sexual assualt charge this off season.

Stop running around here trying to victimize those who comment on the situation.
First you called us chicks for gossiping on a message board, then we were jealous of Ben, then we preached against SA because we had first hand knowledge of it, then you called men out for appreciating half naked women in sigs...

Your Jedi mind tricks do not work on this board... we are not sexual assaulters, pigs and or villains. We are Steeler fans commenting on the franchise QB with 2 SA accusations.

So.

All you bitches take my shots.. or AYBTMS so I don't offend...

Shawn
03-13-2010, 06:29 PM
Shawn.

No one on here said they hoped or predicted Ben would have a sexual assualt charge this off season.

Stop running around here trying to victimize those who comment on the situation.
First you called us chicks for gossiping on a message board, then we were jealous of Ben, then we preached against SA because we had first hand knowledge of it, then you called men out for appreciating half naked women in sigs...

Your Jedi mind tricks do not work on this board... we are not sexual assaulters, pigs and or villains. We are Steeler fans commenting on the franchise QB with 2 SA accusations.

So.

All you bitches take my shots.. or AYBTMS so I don't offend...

Uh huh...well I have clarified my position and this will be the last time I do so. The only people I have issue with are the people that have called Ben a rapist without a shread of evidence. It should be debated...talked about etc. But convicting a man of a crime without evidence stinks something bad. As for quoting my lines without context to make a point...well that fits for you. I have no issue with girls in sigs. What I have an issue is with someone preaching about "piggery" while having a half naked chick half his age in his sig. As for gossiping like hens...yep I stand by that. I have never seen grown men gossip about other grown men without facts. Men discuss facts...or ideas. Women discuss speculation and what Sue might be doing behind closed doors with Jim. If you feel "victimized" because of that I don't know what to say.

RuthlessBurgher
03-13-2010, 06:59 PM
Physically Ben might be 28 years old but after all of those concussions he's suffered I'm guessing that mentally he has a brain similar to that of a 42 year-old man going through a mid-life crisis.

Or a 14 boy going through puberty and dealing with hormonal changes.

feltdizz
03-13-2010, 07:16 PM
Questioning ones manhood on an Internet chat board? Hilarious...

Shawn you have speculated on what may have gone down as well. You can't get on a chat board and call other guys women because they aren't discussing a scandal the way you want them to. For some reason you always get personal when someone doesn't agree with you.

Some are going to the left, others to the right and a few are acting like it's business as usual. I've never questioned your manhood for giving Ben the benefit of the doubt. No one has said you may have experience with late night skullduggery..(Tyson) because you don't think Ben did anything wrong.

Can you produce on post where someone on here convicted Ben of a crime? He has been convicted of poor judgment.. No one has called him a rapist.


AYBTMS

Shawn
03-13-2010, 08:07 PM
Questioning ones manhood on an Internet chat board? Hilarious...


Saying some men are acting like chicks in regards to this situation isn't questioning manhood. It's saying you gossip like chicks. If I wanted to insult your manhood I could be alot more creative. It's an observation and I'm sorry you took it so personal.


Shawn you have speculated on what may have gone down as well. You can't get on a chat board and call other guys women because they aren't discussing a scandal the way you want them to. For some reason you always get personal when someone doesn't agree with you.

I have speculated on what we know. For instance we know it was a unisex bathroom with a lock. You can deduce with those facts. But, what I'm not saying is Ben is guilty or innocent. I don't believe he raped anyone but I could be wrong. Could he have done something he shouldn't have? Wouldn't shock me. Could this just be a gold digger looking for a buck...that's a good possibility as well. These are possibilities. What I'm not doing is convicting a man of a crime without facts.



Some are going to the left, others to the right and a few are acting like it's business as usual. I've never questioned your manhood for giving Ben the benefit of the doubt. No one has said you may have experience with late night skullduggery..(Tyson) because you don't think Ben did anything wrong.

Still on this manhood thing...it must have hurt you personally or something. I said you gossip like chicks. If the shoe fits. It's not like I said you can't please your wife or you are hung like a flea. Dayum sensitive...like a chick. :lol: Come on that's funny. :D


Can you produce on post where someone on here convicted Ben of a crime? He has been convicted of poor judgment.. No one has called him a rapist.

Yes I can but will not wade through the multitude of posts to do so. I have read several posters call Ben a rapist or said he sexually assaulted the girl.


AYBTMS

feltdizz
03-13-2010, 08:39 PM
I'm not taking what you say personally I'm just asking why you felt the need to try to be dig at board members over this discussion. It's juvenile...

You are trying to label anyone who criticizes or questions Ben as a female and anyone who defends him as a man.

It's a weak argument.... and guy with weak arguments have limp wrist, real men wait for facts amd present strong arguments. LOL...

Shawn
03-13-2010, 10:24 PM
I'm not taking what you say personally I'm just asking why you felt the need to try to be dig at board members over this discussion. It's juvenile...

You are trying to label anyone who criticizes or questions Ben as a female and anyone who defends him as a man.

It's a weak argument.... and guy with weak arguments have limp wrist, real men wait for facts amd present strong arguments. LOL...

What you are doing is dramatizing the situation. I said you gossip like chicks and you are turning it into a monumental display of juvenille behavior and some great slam on your manhood. This feels very familiar...oh yeah...like arguing with the wife. :lol:

feltdizz
03-13-2010, 10:38 PM
I'm not taking what you say personally I'm just asking why you felt the need to try to be dig at board members over this discussion. It's juvenile...

You are trying to label anyone who criticizes or questions Ben as a female and anyone who defends him as a man.

It's a weak argument.... and guy with weak arguments have limp wrist, real men wait for facts amd present strong arguments. LOL...

What you are doing is dramatizing the situation. I said you gossip like chicks and you are turning it into a monumental display of juvenille behavior and some great slam on your manhood. This feels very familiar...oh yeah...like arguing with the wife. :lol:

what you are doing is trying to make the story about us when it's about Ben.

nice try :wink:

Shawn
03-13-2010, 11:11 PM
I'm not taking what you say personally I'm just asking why you felt the need to try to be dig at board members over this discussion. It's juvenile...

You are trying to label anyone who criticizes or questions Ben as a female and anyone who defends him as a man.

It's a weak argument.... and guy with weak arguments have limp wrist, real men wait for facts amd present strong arguments. LOL...

What you are doing is dramatizing the situation. I said you gossip like chicks and you are turning it into a monumental display of juvenille behavior and some great slam on your manhood. This feels very familiar...oh yeah...like arguing with the wife. :lol:

what you are doing is trying to make the story about us when it's about Ben.

nice try :wink:


What I'm doing is trying to have an intelligent discussion based on facts rather than anxious feelings of impending doom.

feltdizz
03-14-2010, 01:56 PM
I'm not taking what you say personally I'm just asking why you felt the need to try to be dig at board members over this discussion. It's juvenile...

You are trying to label anyone who criticizes or questions Ben as a female and anyone who defends him as a man.

It's a weak argument.... and guy with weak arguments have limp wrist, real men wait for facts amd present strong arguments. LOL...

What you are doing is dramatizing the situation. I said you gossip like chicks and you are turning it into a monumental display of juvenille behavior and some great slam on your manhood. This feels very familiar...oh yeah...like arguing with the wife. :lol:

what you are doing is trying to make the story about us when it's about Ben.

nice try :wink:


What I'm doing is trying to have an intelligent discussion based on facts rather than anxious feelings of impending doom.

we are talking about BJ's, devil shirts and used girls for one night stands getting offended in a public bathrooms after slipping and hitting their head.

Intelligent convo went out the window along time ago dude...

This is why we are all frustrated.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
03-14-2010, 03:01 PM
3....

2....

1....

Shawn
03-14-2010, 03:13 PM
I'm not taking what you say personally I'm just asking why you felt the need to try to be dig at board members over this discussion. It's juvenile...

You are trying to label anyone who criticizes or questions Ben as a female and anyone who defends him as a man.

It's a weak argument.... and guy with weak arguments have limp wrist, real men wait for facts amd present strong arguments. LOL...

What you are doing is dramatizing the situation. I said you gossip like chicks and you are turning it into a monumental display of juvenille behavior and some great slam on your manhood. This feels very familiar...oh yeah...like arguing with the wife. :lol:

what you are doing is trying to make the story about us when it's about Ben.

nice try :wink:


What I'm doing is trying to have an intelligent discussion based on facts rather than anxious feelings of impending doom.

we are talking about BJ's, devil shirts and used girls for one night stands getting offended in a public bathrooms after slipping and hitting their head.

Intelligent convo went out the window along time ago dude...

This is why we are all frustrated.

I feel ya. I really do. I haven't been this frustrated with a player in a long time...probably ever. I think I'm going through the stages of grief...

Denial
Pain/Guilt
Anger...that's right where I am right now...I'm pissed.

Crap the next one is depression. :(

:lol:

papillon
03-14-2010, 06:09 PM
I feel ya. I really do. I haven't been this frustrated with a player in a long time...probably ever. I think I'm going through the stages of grief...

Denial
Pain/Guilt
Anger...that's right where I am right now...I'm pissed.

Crap the next one is depression. :(

:lol:

Eh, don't let it bother you, the players come and go and you'll still be a fan. The former players for the most part could care less, they collected a paycheck and had a good time. Some care about the Steelers and others don't (most don't), Ben will probably fall in the middle somewhere when it's all said and done. Enjoy it, celebrate it, love it, but don't sweat it, it's not worth it.

Steeler football has never been so exciting as it is right now and the reason is Ben. I've never looked forward to games like I do when I know Ben is playing, he's exciting, infuriating and devilishly deadly and that's only in one series. He makes my adrenaline pump and I'm an adrenaline junkie, but, I learned a long time ago after the game is over, well, the game is over and it's time to get back to reality. Ben just makes my entertainment dollar worth a lot more.

Pappy

fordfixer
03-15-2010, 12:07 AM
I feel ya. I really do. I haven't been this frustrated with a player in a long time...probably ever. I think I'm going through the stages of grief...

Denial
Pain/Guilt
Anger...that's right where I am right now...I'm pissed.

Crap the next one is depression. :(

:lol:

Eh, don't let it bother you, the players come and go and you'll still be a fan. The former players for the most part could care less, they collected a paycheck and had a good time. Some care about the Steelers and others don't (most don't), Ben will probably fall in the middle somewhere when it's all said and done. Enjoy it, celebrate it, love it, but don't sweat it, it's not worth it.

Steeler football has never been so exciting as it is right now and the reason is Ben. I've never looked forward to games like I do when I know Ben is playing, he's exciting, infuriating and devilishly deadly and that's only in one series. He makes my adrenaline pump and I'm an adrenaline junkie, but, I learned a long time ago after the game is over, well, the game is over and it's time to get back to reality. Ben just makes my entertainment dollar worth a lot more.

Pappy
Well said Pappy :Clap :Clap