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Dee Dub
03-10-2010, 02:20 PM
Joe Haden—CB
Golden Tate--WR
Kyle Wilson—CB
Sean Weatherspoon—ILB

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000 ... nfirm=true (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816d8732&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

Wow….Jared Odrick going as high as 12. Interesting.

steelblood
03-10-2010, 02:32 PM
Joe Haden (first choice) I think he'd help us right away at perhaps our weakest position.
Weatherspoon (2nd choice)
Wilson

I'd rather have Graham, Pouncey, or Ryan Matthews than Golden Tate. Tate really struggled to get open in big games. Clausen made him look good with lots of back shoulder throws.

steelerkeylargo
03-10-2010, 02:32 PM
Joe Haden—CB
Golden Tate--WR
Kyle Wilson—CB
Sean Weatherspoon—ILB

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000 ... nfirm=true (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816d8732&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

Wow….Jared Odrick going as high as 12. Interesting.


Haden! Tate shouldnt even be in the conversation.

RuthlessBurgher
03-10-2010, 02:33 PM
Joe Haden—CB
Golden Tate--WR
Kyle Wilson—CB
Sean Weatherspoon—ILB

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000 ... nfirm=true (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816d8732&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

Wow….Jared Odrick going as high as 12. Interesting.


Haden! Tate shouldnt even be in the conversation.

:Agree

Oviedo
03-10-2010, 02:33 PM
Not a Haden fan so I pick Weatherspoon. I would also include Brandon Graham ahead of Haden.

birtikidis
03-10-2010, 02:36 PM
I love haden, but I'd be hard pressed to pass up on spoon. especially since we drafted corners last year. Farrior and getting any younger and it's a pipe dream to think that Key is gonna be a viable option as a long term starter.

phillyesq
03-10-2010, 02:37 PM
I think Haden. If the top CB in the class, even if it is a weak class, drops to 18, I think the Steelers should make the move.

Dee Dub
03-10-2010, 02:49 PM
Joe Haden—CB
Golden Tate--WR
Kyle Wilson—CB
Sean Weatherspoon—ILB

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000 ... nfirm=true (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816d8732&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

Wow….Jared Odrick going as high as 12. Interesting.


Haden! Tate shouldnt even be in the conversation.

Not even if these Santonio rumors are true?

Dee Dub
03-10-2010, 02:50 PM
Not a Haden fan so I pick Weatherspoon. I would also include Brandon Graham ahead of Haden.

Is he still the top CB in this draft after his poor 40? Or has Wilson closed the gap?

NW Steeler
03-10-2010, 02:52 PM
Weatherspoon for me. I think it really solidifies the middle of our defense, another area that we got shredded on third down last year. He and Timmons in the middle would be sick. I know he probably won't play next year (even though he probably would on another team), but I'm growing tired of watching Farrior flailing after RB's and TE's. Farrior was a great player in his prime. His prime has passed. Let him be a great mentor now.

Oviedo
03-10-2010, 03:06 PM
Not a Haden fan so I pick Weatherspoon. I would also include Brandon Graham ahead of Haden.

Is he still the top CB in this draft after his poor 40? Or has Wilson closed the gap?

I thin Haden holds the top spot now, but if he doesn't go sub 4.5 in the 40 at his Pro day then Wilson will likely be right there with him. Again however we are talking about a CB class without much top end talent. Depth=yes. Elite talent=No.

birtikidis
03-10-2010, 03:07 PM
Not a Haden fan so I pick Weatherspoon. I would also include Brandon Graham ahead of Haden.

Is he still the top CB in this draft after his poor 40? Or has Wilson closed the gap?

I thin Haden holds the top spot now, but if he doesn't go sub 4.5 in the 40 at his Pro day then Wilson will likely be right there with him. Again however we are talking about a CB class without much top end talent. Depth=yes. Elite talent=No.
wasnt his pro day yesterday? and he didn't break 4.5

Lebsteel
03-10-2010, 03:07 PM
Haden, then Rd. 2 I'd take the BPA from ILB, DL or C. So maybe:

1. Haden
2. Washington or Lee ILB

Oviedo
03-10-2010, 03:10 PM
Not a Haden fan so I pick Weatherspoon. I would also include Brandon Graham ahead of Haden.

Is he still the top CB in this draft after his poor 40? Or has Wilson closed the gap?

I thin Haden holds the top spot now, but if he doesn't go sub 4.5 in the 40 at his Pro day then Wilson will likely be right there with him. Again however we are talking about a CB class without much top end talent. Depth=yes. Elite talent=No.
wasnt his pro day yesterday? and he didn't break 4.5

Florida's Pro Day is not until March 17th.

See dates http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/stor ... eContainer (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/12977881?tag=pageRow;pageContainer)

birtikidis
03-10-2010, 03:13 PM
Not a Haden fan so I pick Weatherspoon. I would also include Brandon Graham ahead of Haden.

Is he still the top CB in this draft after his poor 40? Or has Wilson closed the gap?

I thin Haden holds the top spot now, but if he doesn't go sub 4.5 in the 40 at his Pro day then Wilson will likely be right there with him. Again however we are talking about a CB class without much top end talent. Depth=yes. Elite talent=No.
wasnt his pro day yesterday? and he didn't break 4.5

Florida's Pro Day is not until March 17th.

See dates http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/stor ... eContainer (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/12977881?tag=pageRow;pageContainer)
weird... i just had deja vu like a mo fo

phillyesq
03-10-2010, 03:16 PM
[quote="Dee Dub":3fgpu8uf]Joe Haden—CB
Golden Tate--WR
Kyle Wilson—CB
Sean Weatherspoon—ILB

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000 ... nfirm=true (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816d8732&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

Wow….Jared Odrick going as high as 12. Interesting.


Haden! Tate shouldnt even be in the conversation.

Not even if these Santonio rumors are true?[/quote:3fgpu8uf]

Regardless of whether the Santonio rumors are true, Tate shouldn't be in the discussion. Ward wants to finish his contract, which runs two more years. Wallace isn't going anywhere. ARE and Battle are both here for three years. Perhaps WR enters the discussion next year, but for now, I think the Steelers should focus on defense and/or building the offensive line.

birtikidis
03-10-2010, 03:21 PM
[quote="Dee Dub":1xl7ksh0]Joe Haden—CB
Golden Tate--WR
Kyle Wilson—CB
Sean Weatherspoon—ILB

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000 ... nfirm=true (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816d8732&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

Wow….Jared Odrick going as high as 12. Interesting.


Haden! Tate shouldnt even be in the conversation.

Not even if these Santonio rumors are true?

Regardless of whether the Santonio rumors are true, Tate shouldn't be in the discussion. Ward wants to finish his contract, which runs two more years. Wallace isn't going anywhere. ARE and Battle are both here for three years. Perhaps WR enters the discussion next year, but for now, I think the Steelers should focus on defense and/or building the offensive line.[/quote:1xl7ksh0]
Well said. we have (IMO) enough recieving threats (Miller, Ward, Wallace, Holmes, etc). if we bring a guy in for depth later in the draft so be it, but when you have issues at important positions NOW and you can get a stud to fill it you do.

NW Steeler
03-10-2010, 03:38 PM
Who would have more impact on the team. A good CB, or a potentially great ILB? I think Weatherspoon would have more of an effect on our defense. I don't want to see us draft a CB in the first based on need, especially if their talent doesn't warrant being picked at #18. I'd be willing to bet money that Haden never makes it to #18 anyway. I'd rather see us trade up in the second to get a CB.

birtikidis
03-10-2010, 03:40 PM
Who would have more impact on the team. A good CB, or a potentially great ILB? I think Weatherspoon would have more of an effect on our defense. I don't want to see us draft a CB in the first based on need, especially if their talent doesn't warrant being picked at #18. I'd be willing to bet money that Haden never makes it to #18 anyway. I'd rather see us trade up in the second to get a CB.
I'm in the camp that says that we don't NEED a corner. let's see how burnett and lewis pan out before we write them off.

hawaiiansteel
03-10-2010, 03:50 PM
Weatherspoon for me. I think it really solidifies the middle of our defense, another area that we got shredded on third down last year. He and Timmons in the middle would be sick. I know he probably won't play next year (even though he probably would on another team), but I'm growing tired of watching Farrior flailing after RB's and TE's. Farrior was a great player in his prime. His prime has passed. Let him be a great mentor now.



Weatherspoon or Rolando McClain if he drops to us. McClain just ran a 4.74 at his Pro Day and is expected to be drafted in the middle of Round 1 somewhere.


Alabama Pro Day
March 10, 2010


Alabama cornerback Javier Arenas helped his NFL stock with a faster-than-expected forty time at the combine (4.52), but it came with a price.

Arenas pulled his hamstring and was unable to participate in Wednesday's pro day. He will work out for scouts on March 30. Expected to be a nickel cornerback and special teams standout as a pro, Arenas could get taken as high as the second round.

Meanwhile "Mount Cody" continues to erode. NFL Network's Steve Wyche reports that defensive tackle Terrence Cody weighed in at 349 pounds, five less than he was at the combine. He was 370 pounds at the Senior Bowl. Before long, he'll be down to Wilforkian levels.

Finally, word is linebacker Rolando McClain ran a 4.74 forty. That's about what he was expected to do; McClain seems likely to get taken in the middle of the first round.

NW Steeler
03-10-2010, 03:53 PM
I like Weatherspoon over McClain myself. I think McClain is too slow. He seems better suited as a MLB in a 4-3. I bet the Giants pick him.

SteelBucks
03-10-2010, 04:02 PM
One position everyone seems to ignore is RB. With Parker gone, all we have is Mendenhall and Moore. If the Steelers don't pick someone up in FA (which they already tried with Chester Taylor), I can see them going RB within the first three rounds of the draft.

Dee Dub
03-10-2010, 04:05 PM
I like Weatherspoon over McClain myself. I think McClain is too slow. He seems better suited as a MLB in a 4-3. I bet the Giants pick him.

I don’t know…he excelled in Saban’s 3-4…why wouldn’t he do so at the next level?

NW Steeler
03-10-2010, 05:19 PM
[quote="NW Steeler":3g58om2h]I like Weatherspoon over McClain myself. I think McClain is too slow. He seems better suited as a MLB in a 4-3. I bet the Giants pick him.

I don’t know…he excelled in Saban’s 3-4…why wouldn’t he do so at the next level?[/quote:3g58om2h]

Good point, he did. But the speed in the NFL is another beast. He probably will be a very good or even great player. I just feel that Weatherspoon will be the better pick for the Steelers. Then again, they both could be busts. That is the beauty of the draft.

Dee Dub
03-10-2010, 06:10 PM
[quote="Dee Dub":24883elq][quote="NW Steeler":24883elq]I like Weatherspoon over McClain myself. I think McClain is too slow. He seems better suited as a MLB in a 4-3. I bet the Giants pick him.

I don’t know…he excelled in Saban’s 3-4…why wouldn’t he do so at the next level?[/quote:24883elq]

Good point, he did. But the speed in the NFL is another beast. He probably will be a very good or even great player. I just feel that Weatherspoon will be the better pick for the Steelers. Then again, they both could be busts. That is the beauty of the draft.[/quote:24883elq]

On that inside Middle LB spot he doesnt need to be a track star. Now having said that I too am leaning more towards Weatherspoon. There's just something special about that guy. I think he is going to be a difference maker.

Oviedo
03-10-2010, 06:16 PM
One position everyone seems to ignore is RB. With Parker gone, all we have is Mendenhall and Moore. If the Steelers don't pick someone up in FA (which they already tried with Chester Taylor), I can see them going RB within the first three rounds of the draft.

I haven't. CJ Spiller at #18.

SteelBucks
03-10-2010, 08:32 PM
One position everyone seems to ignore is RB. With Parker gone, all we have is Mendenhall and Moore. If the Steelers don't pick someone up in FA (which they already tried with Chester Taylor), I can see them going RB within the first three rounds of the draft.

I haven't. CJ Spiller at #18.

If they don't go CB, I'd be happy with Spiller.

steelerkeylargo
03-11-2010, 12:30 AM
[quote="Dee Dub":mmzd2kst]Joe Haden—CB
Golden Tate--WR
Kyle Wilson—CB
Sean Weatherspoon—ILB

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000 ... nfirm=true (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816d8732&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

Wow….Jared Odrick going as high as 12. Interesting.


Haden! Tate shouldnt even be in the conversation.

Not even if these Santonio rumors are true?[/quote:mmzd2kst]


Even if they are true, which I have no reason to believe they are, Mike Wallace can hold down the spot for 4 games.