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Dee Dub
03-09-2010, 01:27 PM
``We've talked about just playing No. 3 receiver. That's all we talked about. I'm not even sure about punt return, now that I think about it. The way I always look at it, I'm going to go in and be No. 3.’’

http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs ... fault.aspx (http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/bobsmizik/default.aspx)

So what does that mean? What happened to Mike Wallace?? How can ARE be brought back and told he will be the #3? Would the Steelers be considering the unthinkable? Is there a trade in the works? No way they trade Hines Ward. And no way they trade a talented young player like Wallace. Do they think Wallace is good enough to be the number 2…or maybe the number one….one day soon? If ARE was brought back to be the #3 and Arnaz Battle the #4 does this mean that maybe…Santonio Holmes may get shopped??


Hmmmmm???

Shawn
03-09-2010, 01:42 PM
talk is talk...are wont be the #3 unless there is an injury and no way will they shop any of our wrs

RuthlessBurgher
03-09-2010, 01:42 PM
No. Mike Wallace is the #3. Randle El is #4. Battle is a merely a special teamer and should only factor into the passing game if injuries strike (his familiarity with our new ST coach Everest is why he was signed).

Wallace and El play different roles, though. Wallace is obviously the deep burner, while ARE will be an underneath slot guy. In certain situations, the team may choose to use El's skill set instead of Wallace, but in general, Wallace should be #3...no doubt in my mind about that.

I think the #3 talk was only a recruiting pitch. If they came to El and told him that he would only compete for the #4 WR spot, he likely wouldn't have signed (even though, that is the overwhelming reality he's facing here).

feltdizz
03-09-2010, 01:42 PM
ARE will be the 3.1 WR

Maybe Hines is still hurt?

calmkiller
03-09-2010, 01:45 PM
I believe what he means by the No. 3 is the slot. Which is where he will play. That or Hines is going to retire. Which would make him the number 3 behind starters Wallace and Holmes.

Mister Pittsburgh
03-09-2010, 01:48 PM
ARE will be the 3.1 WR

Maybe Hines is still hurt?

Was thinking the same thing. Didn't he finish the season on TWO TORN hamstrings?

phillyesq
03-09-2010, 01:52 PM
No. Mike Wallace is the #3. Randle El is #4. Battle is a merely a special teamer and should only factor into the passing game if injuries strike (his familiarity with our new ST coach Everest is why he was signed).

Wallace and El play different roles, though. Wallace is obviously the deep burner, while ARE will be an underneath slot guy. In certain situations, the team may choose to use El's skill set instead of Wallace, but in general, Wallace should be #3...no doubt in my mind about that.

I think the #3 talk was only a recruiting pitch. If they came to El and told him that he would only compete for the #4 WR spot, he likely wouldn't have signed (even though, that is the overwhelming reality he's facing here).

:Agree

pfelix73
03-09-2010, 01:55 PM
I got it- Hines is gonna play FB. :tt1

Dee Dub
03-09-2010, 01:57 PM
talk is talk...are wont be the #3 unless there is an injury and no way will they shop any of our wrs

That’s not what the Steelers told him. See the article. And the contract given would suggest that he is telling the truth.

Dee Dub
03-09-2010, 02:01 PM
Lets also keep in mind, ARE has had three straight 50 reception seasons. That at a minimum is #3 receiver.

phillyesq
03-09-2010, 02:08 PM
talk is talk...are wont be the #3 unless there is an injury and no way will they shop any of our wrs

That’s not what the Steelers told him. See the article. And the contract given would suggest that he is telling the truth.

It was a 3 year deal, but what are the numbers?

Shawn
03-09-2010, 02:11 PM
talk is talk...are wont be the #3 unless there is an injury and no way will they shop any of our wrs

That’s not what the Steelers told him. See the article. And the contract given would suggest that he is telling the truth.

They won't bench Wallace to let ARE play. They won't be trading Holmes or Ward. Whatever ARE said...or whatever the numbers say...Tomlin and Co. are not that stupid. What is possible is Ward has said he is done after this season. Then they slide Wallace over and allow ARE to play the slot. This makes the most amount of sense.

calmkiller
03-09-2010, 02:15 PM
talk is talk...are wont be the #3 unless there is an injury and no way will they shop any of our wrs

That’s not what the Steelers told him. See the article. And the contract given would suggest that he is telling the truth.

They won't bench Wallace to let ARE play. They won't be trading Holmes or Ward. Whatever ARE said...or whatever the numbers say...Tomlin and Co. are not that stupid. What is possible is Ward has said he is done after this season. Then they slide Wallace over and allow ARE to play the slot. This makes the most amount of sense.

Or as I said above maybe Hines is going to retire now. Both his hammies were tore up so maybe he can't physically play?

Dee Dub
03-09-2010, 02:19 PM
talk is talk...are wont be the #3 unless there is an injury and no way will they shop any of our wrs

That’s not what the Steelers told him. See the article. And the contract given would suggest that he is telling the truth.

They won't bench Wallace to let ARE play. They won't be trading Holmes or Ward. Whatever ARE said...or whatever the numbers say...Tomlin and Co. are not that stupid. What is possible is Ward has said he is done after this season. Then they slide Wallace over and allow ARE to play the slot. This makes the most amount of sense.

I am not saying that Shawn. Read the article again. Why is ARE saying the Steelers signed him to play the #3 WR role? He has put up numbers to suggest he is a little more than a #4. Think about it.

cruzer8
03-09-2010, 02:41 PM
talk is talk...are wont be the #3 unless there is an injury and no way will they shop any of our wrs

That’s not what the Steelers told him. See the article. And the contract given would suggest that he is telling the truth.

They won't bench Wallace to let ARE play. They won't be trading Holmes or Ward. Whatever ARE said...or whatever the numbers say...Tomlin and Co. are not that stupid. What is possible is Ward has said he is done after this season. Then they slide Wallace over and allow ARE to play the slot. This makes the most amount of sense.

Or as I said above maybe Hines is going to retire now. Both his hammies were tore up so maybe he can't physically play?

Nah. It's like the other thing you said. The #3 is the slot position.

Shawn
03-09-2010, 03:14 PM
[quote=Shawn]talk is talk...are wont be the #3 unless there is an injury and no way will they shop any of our wrs

That’s not what the Steelers told him. See the article. And the contract given would suggest that he is telling the truth.

They won't bench Wallace to let ARE play. They won't be trading Holmes or Ward. Whatever ARE said...or whatever the numbers say...Tomlin and Co. are not that stupid. What is possible is Ward has said he is done after this season. Then they slide Wallace over and allow ARE to play the slot. This makes the most amount of sense.

I am not saying that Shawn. Read the article again. Why is ARE saying the Steelers signed him to play the #3 WR role? He has put up numbers to suggest he is a little more than a #4. Think about it.[/quote:21kkqwc7]

Already did. I already explained why he is saying it. I believe Ward's days of playing are either over or over very soon. But no one is being traded and Wallace isn't sitting the bench...those two things I'm fairly certain about.

tomco09
03-09-2010, 03:18 PM
Can he play CB

SteelCrazy
03-09-2010, 03:31 PM
The real question is, Can he play Center?

Wallace isnt going anywhere but up.....Either Hines is hurt and they dont know if he can return to a full time role or Holmes is going to be traded or they lied to ARE to get him to sign.

Dee Dub
03-09-2010, 04:04 PM
[quote=Shawn]talk is talk...are wont be the #3 unless there is an injury and no way will they shop any of our wrs

That’s not what the Steelers told him. See the article. And the contract given would suggest that he is telling the truth.

They won't bench Wallace to let ARE play. They won't be trading Holmes or Ward. Whatever ARE said...or whatever the numbers say...Tomlin and Co. are not that stupid. What is possible is Ward has said he is done after this season. Then they slide Wallace over and allow ARE to play the slot. This makes the most amount of sense.

I am not saying that Shawn. Read the article again. Why is ARE saying the Steelers signed him to play the #3 WR role? He has put up numbers to suggest he is a little more than a #4. Think about it.

Already did. I already explained why he is saying it. I believe Ward's days of playing are either over or over very soon. But no one is being traded and Wallace isn't sitting the bench...those two things I'm fairly certain about.[/quote:3vwrp7f7]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ya better read the latest news on Santonio.

phillyesq
03-09-2010, 04:12 PM
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ya better read the latest news on Santonio.

???

Care to enlighten us?

RuthlessBurgher
03-09-2010, 04:21 PM
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ya better read the latest news on Santonio.

???

Care to enlighten us?

http://www.planetsteelers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10855


Friend of a friend of a friend told me Santonio failed another drug test and will be suspended 4 games at the start of next season. That's why we signed El and Battle. Not 100% sure its true so take it for what its worth. This offseason has been awesome so far :wft

Chadman
03-09-2010, 05:53 PM
Because Chadman doesn't like to discount any theories until proven wrong, trading Santonio isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

Remember- the Steelers have reportedly shown interest in Golden Tate in this draft...Wallace proved to be a burner...El could be #3...Battle is Ward-Lite....

Dee Dub
03-09-2010, 06:21 PM
Ok folks something isnt right here...

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... 70820.html (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_670820.html)

Iron Shiek
03-09-2010, 06:24 PM
I got it- Hines is gonna play FB. :tt1


Can he play center? :HeadBanger

RuthlessBurgher
03-09-2010, 08:09 PM
Because Chadman doesn't like to discount any theories until proven wrong, trading Santonio isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

Remember- the Steelers have reportedly shown interest in Golden Tate in this draft...Wallace proved to be a burner...El could be #3...Battle is Ward-Lite....

Seattle has been considering signing RFA Brandon Marshall to an offer sheet, meaning that they are not afraid of WR's with checkered pasts and they would be willing to give up the #6 overall pick to get one. If Eric Berry were available at #6, I would be willing to trade Santonio for the #6 pick straight up. That would make Clark an expensive backup once Berry was ready for prime time (but we could always trade him to the Dolphins, who wanted him in the first place). Then I'd draft a WR with a mid round pick such as David Reed or Jordan Shipley to compete with Sweed for the #5 spot behind Ward, Wallace, Randle El, and Battle.

feltdizz
03-09-2010, 10:49 PM
Ok folks something isnt right here...

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... 70820.html (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_670820.html)


is it too crazy to think we told ARE what he wanted to hear to get him on our roster?

We have enough packages and throw the ball enough for ARE to feel like he is a #3.

Lebsteel
03-09-2010, 11:22 PM
Ok folks something isnt right here...

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... 70820.html (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_670820.html)


is it too crazy to think we told ARE what he wanted to hear to get him on our roster?

We have enough packages and throw the ball enough for ARE to feel like he is a #3.
OK, since ARE came out and said what he did, can we surmise that it is because:

1) ARE is not really that bright and forgot to ask about guys named Ward, Holmes and Wallace that might be ahead of him on the depth chart?

2) He knows something that we don't and he is silly enough to divulge the secret that he will be #3 because someone in front of him is leaving?

3) He thinks he is better than Mike Wallace and will earn the #3 spot over him?

sd steel
03-10-2010, 02:08 AM
Because Chadman doesn't like to discount any theories until proven wrong, trading Santonio isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

Remember- the Steelers have reportedly shown interest in Golden Tate in this draft...Wallace proved to be a burner...El could be #3...Battle is Ward-Lite....

Seattle has been considering signing RFA Brandon Marshall to an offer sheet, meaning that they are not afraid of WR's with checkered pasts and they would be willing to give up the #6 overall pick to get one. If Eric Berry were available at #6, I would be willing to trade Santonio for the #6 pick straight up. That would make Clark an expensive backup once Berry was ready for prime time (but we could always trade him to the Dolphins, who wanted him in the first place). Then I'd draft a WR with a mid round pick such as David Reed or Jordan Shipley to compete with Sweed for the #5 spot behind Ward, Wallace, Randle El, and Battle.


I like this theory, and hope you are correct.