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PSU_dropout43
02-03-2010, 12:05 AM
Limas Sweed, WR Texas
Outside of the wrist injury that cost him most of last year, he has it all. Tremendous size, good-enough speed and fantastic athleticism, he looks the part of a receiver to build a passing game around. But he's not a receiver to build a passing game around. Too streaky and not a dominant player at any time at the collegiate level, he was simply above-average, never special. To compare him to a similar sized Longhorn receiver, Sweed isn't as fast as Roy Williams and isn't even in the same league when it comes to home-run hitting potential. He'll work his tail off and will be a very productive 10-year pro, but while there's no real downside, it'll take a special set of circumstances to be a star.

CFN Projection: Late-first to second round


Bruce Davis, OLB/DE UCLA
At 6-2 and 252 pounds, he's too small to be a defensive end and too slow to be a top outside linebacker. He was a tremendous pass rusher who was always in the backfield and was always hitting the quarterback. While he doesn't have more to his game than just being a pass rusher, at least not yet, he showed off in off-season workouts and at the Combine that he has the potential to become a good linebacker if given time to develop.

CFN Projection: Sixth Round





Dennis Dixon, QB Oregon
Had it not been for a torn ACL late last year he'd have won the Heisman. With tremendous athleticism, good smarts and excellent toughness, Dixon become a tremendous leader who took his game to another level with a jaw-dropping senior season. While he's not going to bomb away, he has a good short-range arm and makes plays on the move everywhere on the field.

Of course, the knee injury will be a major problem considering his game is all about quickness, and if he's not moving around he can't play in the NFL; he's not a pro pocket passer. Everyone tried to compare him to Vince Young as last year went on, but he's not as big, doesn't have nearly the same arm, and doesn't have close to the same upside. He'll be in the league for a long time, but he won't start for anyone any time soon.

CFN Projection: Fifth round

SanAntonioSteelerFan
02-03-2010, 12:17 AM
Hey PSU - Awesome, this is one of the best and creative posts of the off-season so far, IMHO!!

Re: Sweed - I noticed two things: The things they said negative about him never really happened - they said he'd never be above average, no speed, no real upside. I think Sweed showed HUGE upside in how he got open so well.

The other thing about him - his negatives this year (no details need be given here) were not even on the radar screen with those draft notes. To me, that means once (if?) we get him past the mental block/confidence issue, he's gold - shown the upside we didn't know he had. Here's pulling for you Sweedy Baby!!

About Dixon - Hey, I guess I didn't pay attention back then, I had no idea he was so talented. Didn't hear anything about his knee this past year, so I guess that's a non-issue - great pickup by the Steelers!

GO STEELERS!

hawaiiansteel
02-03-2010, 12:22 AM
[quote]Limas Sweed, WR Texas
Outside of the wrist injury that cost him most of last year, he has it all. Tremendous size, good-enough speed and fantastic athleticism, he looks the part of a receiver to build a passing game around. But he's not a receiver to build a passing game around. Too streaky and not a dominant player at any time at the collegiate level, he was simply above-average, never special. To compare him to a similar sized Longhorn receiver, Sweed isn't as fast as Roy Williams and isn't even in the same league when it comes to home-run hitting potential. He'll work his tail off and will be a very productive 10-year pro, but while there's no real downside, it'll take a special set of circumstances to be a star.

CFN Projection: Late-first to second round


Bruce Davis, OLB/DE UCLA
At 6-2 and 252 pounds, he's too small to be a defensive end and too slow to be a top outside linebacker. He was a tremendous pass rusher who was always in the backfield and was always hitting the quarterback. While he doesn't have more to his game than just being a pass rusher, at least not yet, he showed off in off-season workouts and at the Combine that he has the potential to become a good linebacker if given time to develop.

CFN Projection: Sixth Round





Dennis Dixon, QB Oregon
Had it not been for a torn ACL late last year he'd have won the Heisman. With tremendous athleticism, good smarts and excellent toughness, Dixon become a tremendous leader who took his game to another level with a jaw-dropping senior season. While he's not going to bomb away, he has a good short-range arm and makes plays on the move everywhere on the field.

Of course, the knee injury will be a major problem considering his game is all about quickness, and if he's not moving around he can't play in the NFL; he's not a pro pocket passer. Everyone tried to compare him to Vince Young as last year went on, but he's not as big, doesn't have nearly the same arm, and doesn't have close to the same upside. He'll be in the league for a long time, but he won't start for anyone any time soon.

CFN Projection: Fifth round[/quote:pxfpc1z3]



Bruce Davis' projection was he would be a 6th round pick, we chose him in the third. Wonder who fell in love with him?

stlrz d
02-03-2010, 01:01 AM
[quote=PSU_dropout43][quote]Limas Sweed, WR Texas
Outside of the wrist injury that cost him most of last year, he has it all. Tremendous size, good-enough speed and fantastic athleticism, he looks the part of a receiver to build a passing game around. But he's not a receiver to build a passing game around. Too streaky and not a dominant player at any time at the collegiate level, he was simply above-average, never special. To compare him to a similar sized Longhorn receiver, Sweed isn't as fast as Roy Williams and isn't even in the same league when it comes to home-run hitting potential. He'll work his tail off and will be a very productive 10-year pro, but while there's no real downside, it'll take a special set of circumstances to be a star.

CFN Projection: Late-first to second round


Bruce Davis, OLB/DE UCLA
At 6-2 and 252 pounds, he's too small to be a defensive end and too slow to be a top outside linebacker. He was a tremendous pass rusher who was always in the backfield and was always hitting the quarterback. While he doesn't have more to his game than just being a pass rusher, at least not yet, he showed off in off-season workouts and at the Combine that he has the potential to become a good linebacker if given time to develop.

CFN Projection: Sixth Round





Dennis Dixon, QB Oregon
Had it not been for a torn ACL late last year he'd have won the Heisman. With tremendous athleticism, good smarts and excellent toughness, Dixon become a tremendous leader who took his game to another level with a jaw-dropping senior season. While he's not going to bomb away, he has a good short-range arm and makes plays on the move everywhere on the field.

Of course, the knee injury will be a major problem considering his game is all about quickness, and if he's not moving around he can't play in the NFL; he's not a pro pocket passer. Everyone tried to compare him to Vince Young as last year went on, but he's not as big, doesn't have nearly the same arm, and doesn't have close to the same upside. He'll be in the league for a long time, but he won't start for anyone any time soon.

CFN Projection: Fifth round[/quote:13er6yns]



Bruce Davis' projection was he would be a 6th round pick, we chose him in the third. Wonder who fell in love with him?[/quote:13er6yns]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest there was more than one projection for him and that they weren't all 6th round projections.

There's a lot of luck involved with drafting. Despite that the Steelers are still pretty good at it. I've got no complaints.

Oviedo
02-03-2010, 09:23 AM
[quote=PSU_dropout43][quote]Limas Sweed, WR Texas
Outside of the wrist injury that cost him most of last year, he has it all. Tremendous size, good-enough speed and fantastic athleticism, he looks the part of a receiver to build a passing game around. But he's not a receiver to build a passing game around. Too streaky and not a dominant player at any time at the collegiate level, he was simply above-average, never special. To compare him to a similar sized Longhorn receiver, Sweed isn't as fast as Roy Williams and isn't even in the same league when it comes to home-run hitting potential. He'll work his tail off and will be a very productive 10-year pro, but while there's no real downside, it'll take a special set of circumstances to be a star.

CFN Projection: Late-first to second round


Bruce Davis, OLB/DE UCLA
At 6-2 and 252 pounds, he's too small to be a defensive end and too slow to be a top outside linebacker. He was a tremendous pass rusher who was always in the backfield and was always hitting the quarterback. While he doesn't have more to his game than just being a pass rusher, at least not yet, he showed off in off-season workouts and at the Combine that he has the potential to become a good linebacker if given time to develop.

CFN Projection: Sixth Round





Dennis Dixon, QB Oregon
Had it not been for a torn ACL late last year he'd have won the Heisman. With tremendous athleticism, good smarts and excellent toughness, Dixon become a tremendous leader who took his game to another level with a jaw-dropping senior season. While he's not going to bomb away, he has a good short-range arm and makes plays on the move everywhere on the field.

Of course, the knee injury will be a major problem considering his game is all about quickness, and if he's not moving around he can't play in the NFL; he's not a pro pocket passer. Everyone tried to compare him to Vince Young as last year went on, but he's not as big, doesn't have nearly the same arm, and doesn't have close to the same upside. He'll be in the league for a long time, but he won't start for anyone any time soon.

CFN Projection: Fifth round[/quote:3qufwh4n]



Bruce Davis' projection was he would be a 6th round pick, we chose him in the third. Wonder who fell in love with him?[/quote:3qufwh4n]

Doesn't our defensive coord put in the input for the defensive players. I doubt they build a draft board without the input of the coaches of that unit.

But you are going to have misses at a higher than average rate on defense when your scheme forces you to convert good college DEs to LBs and good college DTs to DEs. Just one of the downsides/risks of the 3-4 defense.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
02-03-2010, 10:26 AM
Nice topic. Would be good to dig this up for each of our last five or so years.

The thing that jumps out to me is that there is no mention of drops on Sweed. Hopefully this is something that just showed up due to his eyes, or personal problems that are now behind him, or a now cured voodoo curse. If he gets through this then he could be a very good receiver for where we have him slotted - 4th now and moving up to 3 once HW retires.

aggiebones
02-03-2010, 01:21 PM
All accurate except the part about Dixon not having Young's arm.
What Young throws marshmellows out there. He'd be on his way to the Hall if he could throw a ball as well as most High School kids.

Mister Pittsburgh
02-03-2010, 01:26 PM
Sweed looks like crap on the deep passes. However, last preseason he had a game where we got him involved early and were hitting him going across the middle like 10 or 15 yards downfield and he was catching everything and taking hits and holding onto the ball.

Only passes I have seen attempted to him in regular season games were passes out in the flats or by the sideline or 30 yards downfield.

The kid definitly has confidence issues now, but like some other offensive players I would say he is used incorrectly for the skills he has.