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PSU_dropout43
01-28-2010, 02:26 PM
MOBILE, Ala. -- The Steelers' scouts and front-office personnel talked to numerous players particpating in the Senior Bowl.

Here are a few of the names the Steelers are interested in, gathered from talking to scouts, agents and players: RB Ben Tate, Auburn; LB Cameron Sheffield, Troy; DE Brandon Lang, Troy; CB Kyle Wilson, Boise State; G Mike Iupati, Idaho; DL Mike Neal, Purdue; and DB Chris Cook, Virginia.

Now this doesn't mean the Steelers will draft any of these players. Iupati might be gone by the time the Steelers pick middle in the first round. Neal said the Steelers told him at the East-West Shrine game he didn't fit their defensive scheme.

Cook said the Steelers talked to him about playing safety.

"I can play both," Cook said after Wednesday's practice. "I'm a football player. I can play man-to-man and zone defense, but my strength is press man."

Cook can also return kicks, though he won't do it at the Senior Bowl. Cook also talked to the Cowboys, Bears, Panthers and Dolphins.

Some other players the Steelers are looking at are Georgia Tech wide receiver DeMaryius Thomas and South Florida wideout Carlton Mitchell.

hawaiiansteel
01-28-2010, 02:36 PM
Mike Iupati OG in the 1st round and Kyle Wilson CB in the 2nd...sounds good to me.

RuthlessBurgher
01-28-2010, 02:42 PM
First, Iupati at #18 was considered to be a reach. Now it's being reported that "Iupati might be gone by the time the Steelers pick middle in the first round." :?: :?: :?:

Wow...dude is a guard who played at Idaho. I usually expect the pre-draft hype machine to talk up QB's, WR's, RB's, etc., not necessarily guards from Idaho. The way he's being pimped now, he'll likely be projected in the top 5 by the time April rolls around.

feltdizz
01-28-2010, 02:55 PM
First, Iupati at #18 was considered to be a reach. Now it's being reported that "Iupati might be gone by the time the Steelers pick middle in the first round." :?: :?: :?:

Wow...dude is a guard who played at Idaho. I usually expect the pre-draft hype machine to talk up QB's, WR's, RB's, etc., not necessarily guards from Idaho. The way he's being pimped now, he'll likely be projected in the top 5 by the time April rolls around.


The school name means nothing when you get to the Senior Bowl... if he is man handling top talent then he climbs.

hawaiiansteel
01-28-2010, 03:11 PM
First, Iupati at #18 was considered to be a reach. Now it's being reported that "Iupati might be gone by the time the Steelers pick middle in the first round." :?: :?: :?:

Wow...dude is a guard who played at Idaho. I usually expect the pre-draft hype machine to talk up QB's, WR's, RB's, etc., not necessarily guards from Idaho. The way he's being pimped now, he'll likely be projected in the top 5 by the time April rolls around.


maybe he'll go #3 to the Lions now... :roll:



POSTED: JAN. 27, 2010
Idaho LG Mike Iupati catches Lions' Linehan's attention


MOBILE, Ala. -- If you're Lions offensive coordinator Scott Linehan, there's a lot to like about Idaho guard Mike Iupati.

"Obviously, he's the best player in this game," Linehan said Tuesday, after the Lions' coaches led the North in its second practice for Saturday's Senior Bowl.

Linehan laughed as he said that. He was just joking, because he played quarterback at Idaho and began his coaching career there. Got to support the alma mater.

But he wasn't far off, either. Iupati might be the best guard prospect in this game. And he plays left guard, where the Lions happen to have a gaping hole.

"I've heard a lot of good things about him, and it's holding true," Linehan said. "You really notice him. He can do the double teams. He's powerful. But you see him pull."

Iupati is 6-feet-5, 325 pounds. He has the arm length of an offensive tackle -- 35 inches, the longest at the Senior Bowl. He's so athletic that Linehan can see him playing four spots on the line. The Lions have tried Iupati at both guard spots and at left tackle. Iupati said "right guard's just a little bit uncomfortable" and he has no experience at tackle, but coach Jim Schwartz said he wasn't out of place.

"I think the one thing that scouts wanted to see ... is when you step up to this level and you're going against guys who are maybe from bigger conferences, there's not a whole lot of adjustment period," Schwartz said. "I think that's what we saw with Mike in the last couple days. He's right at home playing against these other guys that are the best players in the country."

But will the Lions be in position to draft Iupati? They hold the No. 2 and No. 34 picks. Scouts say Iupati could go mid-to-late first round.

NJ-STEELER
01-28-2010, 03:38 PM
i'll take detroit's 2nd and 3rd for them to move up to 18 to take him at a better value.


take pouncey, CB and S help with those 3 in 33 picks

PSU_dropout43
01-28-2010, 03:51 PM
remember Brandon Albert?

In 2007, he climbed the draft board to become a top 15 pick.

Jom112
01-28-2010, 03:54 PM
RB Ben Tate


Was watching Tate in the Senior Bowl practices yesterday and he looked like a RB that you guys could use.

Powerful back that would be good in short yardage. Plus he was the best blocking RB I saw. He stoned one LB after another in the pass blocking drills. Definitely something that Big Ben could use.



Some other players the Steelers are looking at are Georgia Tech wide receiver DeMaryius Thomas

Stay away... :x

Iron Shiek
01-28-2010, 04:01 PM
[quote=PSU_dropout43]RB Ben Tate


Was watching Tate in the Senior Bowl practices yesterday and he looked like a RB that you guys could use.

Powerful back that would be good in short yardage. Plus he was the best blocking RB I saw. He stoned one LB after another in the pass blocking drills. Definitely something that Big Ben could use.



Some other players the Steelers are looking at are Georgia Tech wide receiver DeMaryius Thomas

Stay away... :x[/quote:av7f6szh]


Sorry to hijack...but Jom...could you find anyone else in the draft to put in your mock whose last name starts with "Gr" and ends in "ham"? :D

Iron Shiek
01-28-2010, 04:09 PM
First, Iupati at #18 was considered to be a reach. Now it's being reported that "Iupati might be gone by the time the Steelers pick middle in the first round." :?: :?: :?:

Wow...dude is a guard who played at Idaho. I usually expect the pre-draft hype machine to talk up QB's, WR's, RB's, etc., not necessarily guards from Idaho. The way he's being pimped now, he'll likely be projected in the top 5 by the time April rolls around.


The school name means nothing when you get to the Senior Bowl... if he is man handling top talent then he climbs.


Interesting, this cat is getting a ton of pub...he's been a beast as many have read/posted about. Movin the Chains are having Faneca on today, and Kirwan and Ryan basically led the show raving about Iupati and how the Jets would do themselves a good service by trying to get him, but subsequently mentioned they pick too late.

But just the fact that this kid was the only one they talked about in the opening segment, still says alot about the impression he left with everyone. Its not like he was a workout warrior, he did it on the field against his peers, so I will buy into the hype.

But again, an OG climbing really high would be a head scratcher.

Jom112
01-28-2010, 04:23 PM
Sorry to hijack...but Jom...could you find anyone else in the draft to put in your mock whose last name starts with "Gr" and ends in "ham"? :D

After my latest updates, I'm down to just one... :lol:

PSU_dropout43
01-28-2010, 05:57 PM
The Senior Bowl preparations are under way, and players are trying to make their impressions on NFL coaches, including the Steelers.

"Practice was a little bit better today, certainly compared to yesterday," Dolphins coach Tony Sparano said. " I thought we had a good day out there and got better in certain areas. Guys are excited about it and that's all we can ask right now. They are doing a nice job with the installation [of the game plan] and have gotten better each day,"

Already, according to two sources at the bowl, the Steelers have held meetings with two players. The first being Idaho guard Mike Iupati.

The 6-5, 325 pound Iupati earned consensus All-American honors this season after being named to the first team by the Associated Press, Walter Camp, American Football Coaches Association and the Football Writers Association of America.

An Outland Trophy finalist and first team All-WAC selection, Iupati helped the Vandals claim just the second bowl victory in program history—a 43-42 win over Bowling Green in the Humanitarian Bowl. He didn’t allow a single sack all season and graded out at 90 percent or better in all 13 games.

The team also met with Michigan State kicker Brett Swenson. The 5-7 kicker,is MSU’S all time leader in field goals (70) points scored (370) and extra points. He is also known for kicking it deep into the endzone.

Swenson has kicked in poor weather environments, and considering his accuracy if the Steelers decide to bring him in, the status of Jeff Reed could be in question.
5'7" kicker? Good grief.

PSU_dropout43
01-28-2010, 05:59 PM
http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/01/27/lebeau- ... -defender/ (http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/01/27/lebeau-steelers-scouring-for-that-next-great-defender/)

LeBeau, Steelers scouring for that next great defender


MOBILE Ala. — Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau is considered one of the best coaches of all time, and is earning Hall of Fame consideration for his outstanding play as a defensive back with the Detroit Lions.

He has presided over top-ranked defenses throughout his career, and his unit led Pittsburgh to a victories in Super Bowl XL and XLIII.

This past season, however, the Steelers were not quite as formidable defensively as they have been in seasons past. They still ranked fifth overall, and second in sacks, but they gave up crucial fourth-quarter touchdowns at key points throughout the year.

LeBeau, however, seemed undaunted when I spoke with him here at the Senior Bowl.

“We had some games in the fourth quarter that we just didn’t execute the way we should have, and gotten off the field the way we have in the past,” LeBeau said. “We’re looking to improve those situations, and that’s one of the reasons we’re down here looking at the players here in the Senior Bowl, and looking at some good young talent coming out.”

LeBeau added that there is a strong core already in place, and expects the Steelers to be right in the mix next season.

“I think we’ll be a very competitive defense, and I think our team is going to be very competitive,” LeBeau said.

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin was also here at the Senior Bowl standing on the sidelines intently watching the action. With LeBeau’s experience, and Tomlin’s passion, it figures Pittsburgh will find a future standout here at the Senior Bowl who will help the Steelers become a contender again in no time.

– Jason Feller

Shoe
01-28-2010, 08:24 PM
Brian Price.

hawaiiansteel
01-28-2010, 09:17 PM
The Senior Bowl preparations are under way, and players are trying to make their impressions on NFL coaches, including the Steelers.

"Practice was a little bit better today, certainly compared to yesterday," Dolphins coach Tony Sparano said. " I thought we had a good day out there and got better in certain areas. Guys are excited about it and that's all we can ask right now. They are doing a nice job with the installation [of the game plan] and have gotten better each day,"

Already, according to two sources at the bowl, the Steelers have held meetings with two players. The first being Idaho guard Mike Iupati.

The 6-5, 325 pound Iupati earned consensus All-American honors this season after being named to the first team by the Associated Press, Walter Camp, American Football Coaches Association and the Football Writers Association of America.

An Outland Trophy finalist and first team All-WAC selection, Iupati helped the Vandals claim just the second bowl victory in program history—a 43-42 win over Bowling Green in the Humanitarian Bowl. He didn’t allow a single sack all season and graded out at 90 percent or better in all 13 games.

The team also met with Michigan State kicker Brett Swenson. The 5-7 kicker,is MSU’S all time leader in field goals (70) points scored (370) and extra points. He is also known for kicking it deep into the endzone.

Swenson has kicked in poor weather environments, and considering his accuracy if the Steelers decide to bring him in, the status of Jeff Reed could be in question.
5'7" kicker? Good grief.



This pick actually makes sense, I think the Steelers are tired of Reed's act and tendency to embarrass the organization and I'm personally tired of his short kickoffs.

In what round would it make sense to draft Swenson in? I looked him up and he's rated very highly amongst all senior PKers.

Lebsteel
01-28-2010, 09:29 PM
Brian Price.


Jared Odrick. Many reviews say he has been the best player at the Senior Bowl. He is built (6'5" 301 lbs.) for the Steelers 3-4 D.

MaxAMillion
01-28-2010, 11:34 PM
I like Odrick a lot. He is my pick for round one. I also am hopeful they can land Chad Jones in round two. He would be a great safety to add to the team. I think Jones's best football is ahead of him.

NJ-STEELER
01-28-2010, 11:52 PM
from what the steelers ask of their DL. take up blockrs

i doubt they go back to back 1st rounders. unless they're thinking of going more 4-3

hawaiiansteel
01-29-2010, 01:27 AM
Brian Price.


Jared Odrick. Many reviews say he has been the best player at the Senior Bowl. He is built (6'5" 301 lbs.) for the Steelers 3-4 D.



Penn State's Odrick turning heads at Senior Bowl

By Jeff McLane
Inquirer Staff Writer

MOBILE, Ala. - During practice for Saturday's Senior Bowl, Penn State defensive tackle Jared Odrick got his practice jersey caught in a tackling dummy and nearly had his shirt ripped off.

But Odrick kept right on chugging and finished the exercise.

"The fact that he's got a great motor and had great production in college is his highest testament," said Mike Mayock, a draft analyst for the NFL Network. "He's got great size, his motor runs all the time, and he's smart and tough. It will be tough for some of those teams at the end of the first round to pass on him."

The Eagles have one of those late first-round picks in the draft, which begins April 22. They hold the No. 24 selection, and there has been a lot of speculation that the team will address an aging defense in the draft. There are needs at free safety, strong-side linebacker and defensive end, but if Odrick is the best player available left on the Eagles' board, the native of Lebanon, Pa., could find himself in Philadelphia.

"Today was the first day I've spoken to someone from the Eagles," Odrick said Monday. "So it's way too early to speculate. After talking to them, I don't feel they're more interested in me than any other team that I've spoken to."

If the 6-foot-5, 301-pound Odrick is the highest-rated defensive tackle at the Senior Bowl, there are a few others who are comparable. Tennessee's Dan Williams and Alabama's Terrence Cody, at 329 and a whopping 370 pounds, respectively, are viewed as two-gap run-stoppers. Odrick, while not as big, is more versatile.

"What I like about him is that he'll fit in both schemes," Mayock said. "Four-three teams will look at him as a defensive tackle and 3-4 teams might say he'll be a nose [tackle] or a defensive end. All 32 NFL teams look at him and say he can fit somewhere on our defensive line."

Over the last few seasons, the Eagles have increasingly moved their ends to tackle on passing downs. Starting tackles Mike Patterson and Brodrick Bunkley combined for only 21/2 sacks last season. Both are solid run-stoppers, but they were part of an Eagles run defense that surrendered 377 yards to the Dallas Cowboys in the last two games.

The 22-year-old Odrick is considered a tackle who is good at stopping the run and rushing the passer, but is not great at either. He tallied 43 tackles last season, with seven sacks and 11 tackles for loss, and was named Big Ten defensive player of the year by the league's coaches. He could have left for the pros after an equally successful junior season, but he felt he needed an extra year.

"Getting another year under my belt, I felt I played that much better my senior year," said Odrick, who missed half of his sophomore season with a broken ankle. "Looking back, I can't really complain about the [draft] grade I got my junior year. I definitely think it was the right decision."

Penn State, always known for developing pro-caliber linebackers, has had recent success with its defensive linemen in the NFL. Defensive line coach Larry Johnson has had six all-Americans in the last 10 years under his stewardship and has five products on pro rosters.

Odrick is considered the third- or fourth-best tackle in this class. Nebraska's Ndamukong Suh and Oklahoma's Gerald McCoy could go first and second overall.

If the Eagles are looking to draft a defensive end to complement Trent Cole, one who could play immediately, he is probably not at the Senior Bowl.

The top-rated end is Georgia Tech's Derrick Morgan, a graduate of Coatesville High. Florida's Carlos Dunlap and Southern Cal's Everson Griffen also could be gone by the time the Eagles pick.

Odrick would be considered a solid, if not spectacular, selection. After the Nittany Lions' Capital One Bowl win over LSU, he flew straight to Atlanta and began workouts with trainer Chip Smith. He will head back to Georgia after Saturday's game to resume training and will take part in next's month scouting combine in Indianapolis.

If he has to improve on how he disengages from blocks, as Mayock suggested, Odrick may want to wear a tighter jersey.

"We were running 'shedding' drills," Odrick said. "I guess the only thing I shed was my shirt."

hawaiiansteel
01-29-2010, 03:00 AM
Senior Bowl Practice Wrap-up

by Colin Lindsay and Jon Cozart
January 29, 2010


<>Top 10 players in Mobile

1. Penn State DT Jared Odrick
2. Idaho OG Mike Iupati
3. Mississippi RB/WR Dexter McCluster
4. Boise State CB Kyle Wilson
5. Michigan DE Brandon Graham
6. Oregon TE E Dickson<>
7. Missouri LB Sean Weatherspoon
8. Texas Christian LB Daryl Washington
9. Arkansas State DE Alex Carrington
10.Tennessee DT Dan Williams

Honorable mentions: California DE Tyson Alualu; Pitt WR Dorin Dickerson; UMass OT Vlad Ducasse; Clemson WR Jacoby Ford; North Carolina DT Cam Thomas; USF FS Nate Allen; Miami TE Jimmy Graham; Mississippi OT John Jerry.

Oviedo
01-29-2010, 08:50 AM
I like Odrick a lot. He is my pick for round one. I also am hopeful they can land Chad Jones in round two. He would be a great safety to add to the team. I think Jones's best football is ahead of him.

If the first two picks were Odrick and Jones I would be very happy with that. Only thing I'm not sure of is if Jones projects more as a Free Safety or Strong Safety.

RuthlessBurgher
01-29-2010, 11:13 AM
Sounds like Odrick is bound to be d-line version of Paul Posluszny this year.

With the return of Aaron Smith, plus Keisel and Hood, I don't think we need to return to the 3-4 DE well in the first round again this year. Sonny Harris is available for depth, and we could bring back Nick Eason even if we let Travis Kirschke move on.

Bigger needs elsewhere, Nittany Lion fans.

Oviedo
01-29-2010, 11:29 AM
Sounds like Odrick is bound to be d-line version of Paul Posluszny this year.

With the return of Aaron Smith, plus Keisel and Hood, I don't think we need to return to the 3-4 DE well in the first round again this year. Sonny Harris is available for depth, and we could bring back Nick Eason even if we let Travis Kirschke move on.

Bigger needs elsewhere, Nittany Lion fans.

What are the chances Smith goes through the season and plays every game. We are falling into a trap thinking that all we need is for "Smith and Troy to come back" and all will be well. That thinking will lead to a repeat of 2009. Both players have shown they can't stay healthy for a full season over the past 3-4 years. This season is unlikely to be different.

We need to add talent on the D side of the ball. Fortunately for us both the DL and DBs are deep areas in this draft. I'd like to see us get 2 players in each area...one developmental NT (assuming they at a minimum tag Hampton), one top DE and one Safety and one CB. Unfortunately that will be four players who will not play at all or will play little in LeBeau's defense but we need the depth and youth.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
01-29-2010, 12:15 PM
Sounds like Odrick is bound to be d-line version of Paul Posluszny this year.

With the return of Aaron Smith, plus Keisel and Hood, I don't think we need to return to the 3-4 DE well in the first round again this year. Sonny Harris is available for depth, and we could bring back Nick Eason even if we let Travis Kirschke move on.

Bigger needs elsewhere, Nittany Lion fans.

What are the chances Smith goes through the season and plays every game. We are falling into a trap thinking that all we need is for "Smith and Troy to come back" and all will be well. That thinking will lead to a repeat of 2009. Both players have shown they can't stay healthy for a full season over the past 3-4 years. This season is unlikely to be different.

We need to add talent on the D side of the ball. Fortunately for us both the DL and DBs are deep areas in this draft. I'd like to see us get 2 players in each area...one developmental NT (assuming they at a minimum tag Hampton), one top DE and one Safety and one CB. Unfortunately that will be four players who will not play at all or will play little in LeBeau's defense but we need the depth and youth.

I think Hampton will be here in 2010 as well as Clark. I'm with you on the youth movement on defense. It has to be done because it has caught up to them. I think they are beyond keeping vet back-ups just for the experience....in the "Just in case" scenario. It is part of the reason we have no experienced quality depth at DB, LB, & DL. The STeelers had to flood the DL & DB positions with 2 rookies at each position last year. The LB core is next. The young guys have to hit the field quicker. I belive Rooney already mentioned that.

Oviedo
01-29-2010, 12:33 PM
Sounds like Odrick is bound to be d-line version of Paul Posluszny this year.

With the return of Aaron Smith, plus Keisel and Hood, I don't think we need to return to the 3-4 DE well in the first round again this year. Sonny Harris is available for depth, and we could bring back Nick Eason even if we let Travis Kirschke move on.

Bigger needs elsewhere, Nittany Lion fans.

What are the chances Smith goes through the season and plays every game. We are falling into a trap thinking that all we need is for "Smith and Troy to come back" and all will be well. That thinking will lead to a repeat of 2009. Both players have shown they can't stay healthy for a full season over the past 3-4 years. This season is unlikely to be different.

We need to add talent on the D side of the ball. Fortunately for us both the DL and DBs are deep areas in this draft. I'd like to see us get 2 players in each area...one developmental NT (assuming they at a minimum tag Hampton), one top DE and one Safety and one CB. Unfortunately that will be four players who will not play at all or will play little in LeBeau's defense but we need the depth and youth.

I think Hampton will be here in 2010 as well as Clark. I'm with you on the youth movement on defense. It has to be done because it has caught up to them. I think they are beyond keeping vet back-ups just for the experience....in the "Just in case" scenario. It is part of the reason we have no experienced quality depth at DB, LB, & DL. The STeelers had to flood the DL & DB positions with 2 rookies at each position last year. The LB core is next. The young guys have to hit the field quicker. I belive Rooney already mentioned that.


The young guys have to hit the field quicker

What evidence would ever lead you to believe that is even a consideration as long as LeBeau is the DC? I think LeBeau is so set in the way "his" defense runs that nothing will change his thinking which is why I do not advocate spending #18 on a defensive player. It is essentially a player for 2011 which may not happen at all.

At #18 take player who will actually get on the field. Arians deserves credit because he seems to be able to find ways to at least give young players the opportunity which is what Wallace did. He is much more willing to let that happen than LeBeau, but Arians is the Anti-Christ and LeBeau is well...St LeBeau. But our defensive scheme is complex so that must mean good.

Lebsteel
01-29-2010, 12:49 PM
Sounds like Odrick is bound to be d-line version of Paul Posluszny this year.

With the return of Aaron Smith, plus Keisel and Hood, I don't think we need to return to the 3-4 DE well in the first round again this year. Sonny Harris is available for depth, and we could bring back Nick Eason even if we let Travis Kirschke move on.

Bigger needs elsewhere, Nittany Lion fans.

RB, don't be such a downer for us Nittany Lion fans :wink:

But, seriously, Poz was never the best player at the Senior Bowl. I posted this in another thread and I think it has some merit, though I tend to agree with you about more need in other areas.


Which starting group is by far the oldest? We have a young QB, RB, OL, WR's average age is 27, LB's average is 28, secondary is 28, but the DL averages 32. I realize we went DL with our first pick last year, but if Jared Odrick is availabe at 18, he may get some serious consideration.

I don't agree with an OL in Rd. 1, but hey we all have an opinion. Some are just not as smart as others. :stirpot

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
01-29-2010, 02:10 PM
Sounds like Odrick is bound to be d-line version of Paul Posluszny this year.

With the return of Aaron Smith, plus Keisel and Hood, I don't think we need to return to the 3-4 DE well in the first round again this year. Sonny Harris is available for depth, and we could bring back Nick Eason even if we let Travis Kirschke move on.

Bigger needs elsewhere, Nittany Lion fans.

What are the chances Smith goes through the season and plays every game. We are falling into a trap thinking that all we need is for "Smith and Troy to come back" and all will be well. That thinking will lead to a repeat of 2009. Both players have shown they can't stay healthy for a full season over the past 3-4 years. This season is unlikely to be different.

We need to add talent on the D side of the ball. Fortunately for us both the DL and DBs are deep areas in this draft. I'd like to see us get 2 players in each area...one developmental NT (assuming they at a minimum tag Hampton), one top DE and one Safety and one CB. Unfortunately that will be four players who will not play at all or will play little in LeBeau's defense but we need the depth and youth.

I think Hampton will be here in 2010 as well as Clark. I'm with you on the youth movement on defense. It has to be done because it has caught up to them. I think they are beyond keeping vet back-ups just for the experience....in the "Just in case" scenario. It is part of the reason we have no experienced quality depth at DB, LB, & DL. The STeelers had to flood the DL & DB positions with 2 rookies at each position last year. The LB core is next. The young guys have to hit the field quicker. I belive Rooney already mentioned that.


The young guys have to hit the field quicker

What evidence would ever lead you to believe that is even a consideration as long as LeBeau is the DC? I think LeBeau is so set in the way "his" defense runs that nothing will change his thinking which is why I do not advocate spending #18 on a defensive player. It is essentially a player for 2011 which may not happen at all.

At #18 take player who will actually get on the field. Arians deserves credit because he seems to be able to find ways to at least give young players the opportunity which is what Wallace did. He is much more willing to let that happen than LeBeau, but Arians is the Anti-Christ and LeBeau is well...St LeBeau. But our defensive scheme is complex so that must mean good.
Evidence is Rooney has spoken. DL has a boss. Tomlin has a boss. That old story. Pressure starts at the top and it is there. I have an offensive player going #1 if Hampton & Clark are retained. I totally agree with young guys hitting the field earlier. Lack of this has put the Steelers defense in the situation they were in last season...And the situation they could be in going into the draft. They had two rookie CBs last year. What is the verdict on them after year 1? They also had 2 rookie DL last year. What is the verdict on them after year 1 ? They had a rookie OG that didn't even dress for one game. What is the verdict on him after year 1 ? You could see the situation the FO is in going into this draft not knowing these answers. You only get those answers with those players seeing the field.

BradshawsHairdresser
01-30-2010, 07:33 PM
Sounds like Odrick is bound to be d-line version of Paul Posluszny this year.

With the return of Aaron Smith, plus Keisel and Hood, I don't think we need to return to the 3-4 DE well in the first round again this year. Sonny Harris is available for depth, and we could bring back Nick Eason even if we let Travis Kirschke move on.

Bigger needs elsewhere, Nittany Lion fans.

What are the chances Smith goes through the season and plays every game. We are falling into a trap thinking that all we need is for "Smith and Troy to come back" and all will be well. That thinking will lead to a repeat of 2009. Both players have shown they can't stay healthy for a full season over the past 3-4 years. This season is unlikely to be different.

We need to add talent on the D side of the ball. Fortunately for us both the DL and DBs are deep areas in this draft. I'd like to see us get 2 players in each area...one developmental NT (assuming they at a minimum tag Hampton), one top DE and one Safety and one CB.

Agreed. We need an infusion of young talent on D. I also think we ought to be looking for an ILB.


Unfortunately that will be four players who will not play at all or will play little in LeBeau's defense but we need the depth and youth.

Here is where Tomlin needs to step in and earn his paycheck. He needs to insist that LeBeau modifies his defense so that the young talent can get on the field and contribute
some. The way it is now, it's insane...they're barely ready to contribute when their first contract is about to expire. Tomlin can exercise some leadership and oversight here,
and make a difference. The question is, will he?

stlrz d
01-30-2010, 07:42 PM
Sounds like Odrick is bound to be d-line version of Paul Posluszny this year.

With the return of Aaron Smith, plus Keisel and Hood, I don't think we need to return to the 3-4 DE well in the first round again this year. Sonny Harris is available for depth, and we could bring back Nick Eason even if we let Travis Kirschke move on.

Bigger needs elsewhere, Nittany Lion fans.

What are the chances Smith goes through the season and plays every game. We are falling into a trap thinking that all we need is for "Smith and Troy to come back" and all will be well. That thinking will lead to a repeat of 2009. Both players have shown they can't stay healthy for a full season over the past 3-4 years. This season is unlikely to be different.

We need to add talent on the D side of the ball. Fortunately for us both the DL and DBs are deep areas in this draft. I'd like to see us get 2 players in each area...one developmental NT (assuming they at a minimum tag Hampton), one top DE and one Safety and one CB.

Agreed. We need an infusion of young talent on D. I also think we ought to be looking for an ILB.


Unfortunately that will be four players who will not play at all or will play little in LeBeau's defense but we need the depth and youth.

Here is where Tomlin needs to step in and earn his paycheck. He needs to insist that LeBeau modifies his defense so that the young talent can get on the field and contribute
some. The way it is now, it's insane...they're barely ready to contribute when their first contract is about to expire. Tomlin can exercise some leadership and oversight here,
and make a difference. The question is, will he?

How, by benching players who are proven so a rookie can see time?

The "defense is too complex for young players" theory is nothing more than a myth. Who do you take out of the starting line up so a rookie can play?

Please provide a list of players and valid reasons why they should be playing instead of the guy starting ahead of them. And I'm not just requesting that of you...I'm requesting it of anyone who propagates the "too complex" myth.

hawaiiansteel
01-30-2010, 09:53 PM
Hood pleased with rookie season
Tuesday, January 26, 2010

By Teresa Varley
Steelers.com

He didn’t expect to get the playing time he did this season, but when he was called upon Ziggy Hood stepped up.

The Steelers number one draft pick in 2009 thought most of his learning his rookie season would be done from the sidelines, watching the veterans ahead of him. But when injures started to mount on the defensive line, Hood was called to duty.

“When I came in I was told I would catch one or two snaps and spend most time on special teams,” said Hood. “When ‘Big A’ (Aaron Smith) went down, and I had to step in for Travis (Kirschke) and Nick (Eason) when they needed a break and for Brett (Keisel),

“I did what I had to do and came in and think I played pretty well. There were some aspects where I was disappointed. If I would have done this a little bit more, took this right step or shot my hands quicker maybe I would have done a whole lot more. It was a big bonus for me to go in there. I had no idea I was going to play this much anyway.”

Hood finished the season with seven tackles, a sack and a fumble recovery, but took away something even more important from his first season in the NFL.

“Next year will hopefully be a lot better and I will come out stronger and play a whole lot better. “Having the experience under my belt and stepping on the field first hand were important,” said Hood.

“It was all a mental game. There are some things you can do, try to outrun someone, out power them. Toward the end you had to become a whole lot smarter. That is where I developed more. Instead of just using my athletic ability I was looking beyond, looking at the formation, looking at the guy in front of me and trying to really study, what can he do, what blocks can I get, how can I approach this and disrupt the offensive line.”

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This is why I think it is important to get rookies some playing team instead of just having them languish on the bench and on special teams.