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01-16-2010, 12:36 AM
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by Scott Brown

I had a chance talk to Steelers president Art Rooney II today for 20 minutes at the team's practice facility.

While he trotted out the company line of not talking about contract negotiations, Rooney II made it pretty clear that the Steelers will sign coach Mike Tomlin to a new deal at some point during the offseason.

He also said the bringing back Pro Bowl nose tackle Casey Hampton is the Steelers' top priority when it comes to their own players that are free agents.

What follows is an excerpt from the exclusive Q&A with Rooney II.

Did you push for Mike Tomlin to make changes to his coaching staff and to cut ties with offensive coordinator Bruce Arians?

“Certainly we do sit down after every season and try and identify whether there are things we can do better and areas that we can improve on and talking about the coaching staff is always part of that conversation. Mike came in and said he thought we should make some changes and I certainly agreed with him. I never went to Mike and asked him to consider firing B.A., and that wasn’t on his agenda so that’s something that never came up, was never discussed. We are making some changes and there are things we certainly need to improve on so we’ve talked about all those kinds of things but we did not discuss firing B.A.”

What are your thoughts on the running game?

“We need to be better at running the football. We were not consistently good at running the football this year, and I think that was a problem, and it’s certainly something that traditionally has been one of the foundations of the team and we need to get back to that. We need to be able to run the ball to be successful. Some of or troubles in the red zone this year, I think, can be traced to that and some of our troubles holding leads this year can be traced to that. It’s an area of our offense our game that we need to be better at and more consistent at than we were this year.”

Where else does the team need to improve?

“Obviously, we have to reduce the number of sacks. Fifty sacks is not an acceptable number. It’s not good for Ben (Roethlisberger) to get hit that many times and it’s too many negative plays for the offense. On the other side of the ball, defensively, we gave up too many fourth-quarter leads. Those are things we’ve got to look at and get better at.”

Can the team get Ben to do a better job of avoiding sacks given the way he plays the game?

“Ben I think is a player who has very high aspirations for himself and for his career and for the team, so I’m sure he recognizes that 50 sacks is not an acceptable number, that he’s got to do his part in reducing them. But that’s been said during the course of the season. The offensive line’s got to do its part, receivers have to recognize the blitz, Ben’s go to get them the ball. All of those pieces have to fit together. Ben as the leader of the offense has to be able to help pull all of those pieces together and I’m sure he will. He’s someone I know wants to continue to improve and wants to get better and be considered one of the top quarterbacks in the league. I expect he’ll be working hard to get better like everyone else.”

If no CBA is reached between the players and owners before the beginning of March and the salary cap goes away will that put the Steelers at a competitive disadvantage?

“Let’s put it this way. In the long-term, I expect us to have a salary cap and this year will kind of be a one-year situation that we’ll get through. Without getting into details, I think overall we have to have a system that works for the National Football League and for all of the teams in the league. What we’ve had over the last decade or more in our collective bargaining agreement and our revenue sharing system I think has all worked well. We’ve got to find the right system and the right adjustments going forward to continue being successful.”

What is the focus of the Steelers right now?

“At this point, certainly the priority is putting the staff together and finding the best people we can find for our coaching staff, and I think we’re well under way in that regard. Once we get that sort of concluded we’ll turn our attention to getting ready for the draft and getting ready to deal with the various contract situations. It’s a jigsaw puzzle and you kind of have to put all of the pieces in place. Hopefully by the time you’ve hit May and completed the draft you’re happy that you have most of the pieces in place and you start working on grooming the team for the season.”

Chadman
01-16-2010, 09:14 AM
"We need to be better at running the football. We were not consistently good at running the football this year, and I think that was a problem, and it’s certainly something that traditionally has been one of the foundations of the team and we need to get back to that. We need to be able to run the ball to be successful. Some of or troubles in the red zone this year, I think, can be traced to that and some of our troubles holding leads this year can be traced to that. It’s an area of our offense our game that we need to be better at and more consistent at than we were this year"

"Obviously, we have to reduce the number of sacks. Fifty sacks is not an acceptable number"

Put RB & OL on your draft lists people....

SidSmythe
01-16-2010, 10:34 AM
"We need to be better at running the football. We were not consistently good at running the football this year, and I think that was a problem, and it’s certainly something that traditionally has been one of the foundations of the team and we need to get back to that. We need to be able to run the ball to be successful. Some of or troubles in the red zone this year, I think, can be traced to that and some of our troubles holding leads this year can be traced to that. It’s an area of our offense our game that we need to be better at and more consistent at than we were this year"

"Obviously, we have to reduce the number of sacks. Fifty sacks is not an acceptable number"

Put RB & OL on your draft lists people....

I would have felt better if he said:
BRUCE and I have talked and we are scrapping the EMPTY backfield set. Rashard is much better utilized in the backfield than flanked out where he won't see the ball. Teams crowd the LOS when we go empty backfield and almost half our sacks given up this year were when we went empty backfield. As a matter of fact, Ben rarely got his eyes downfield b/c the pressure came so quickly. This has to stop and Bruce has agreed.

BradshawsHairdresser
01-16-2010, 10:54 AM
I would have felt better if he said:
BRUCE and I have talked and we are scrapping the EMPTY backfield set. Rashard is much better utilized in the backfield than flanked out where he won't see the ball. Teams crowd the LOS when we go empty backfield and almost half our sacks given up this year were when we went empty backfield. As a matter of fact, Ben rarely got his eyes downfield b/c the pressure came so quickly. This has to stop and Bruce has agreed.


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RuthlessBurgher
01-16-2010, 12:43 PM
What would be the cost to extend Hampton?

At his age, we likely would not want to go for any more than 3 years (he'll want 4 and we'll want 2, so we'll compromise at 3).

Perhaps something along the lines of 3 years, $18 million ($6 million of which is guaranteed)?

BradshawsHairdresser
01-16-2010, 03:20 PM
What would be the cost to extend Hampton?

At his age, we likely would not want to go for any more than 3 years (he'll want 4 and we'll want 2, so we'll compromise at 3).

Perhaps something along the lines of 3 years, $18 million ($6 million of which is guaranteed)?

Throw in a $10,000 Dunkin' Donuts gift certificate, and I'll betcha that would get it done.

RuthlessBurgher
01-16-2010, 03:21 PM
What would be the cost to extend Hampton?

At his age, we likely would not want to go for any more than 3 years (he'll want 4 and we'll want 2, so we'll compromise at 3).

Perhaps something along the lines of 3 years, $18 million ($6 million of which is guaranteed)?

Throw in a $10,000 Dunkin' Donuts gift certificate, and I'll betcha that would get it done.

Dude prefers Krispy Kreme. :lol:

Mister Pittsburgh
01-16-2010, 03:53 PM
If they sign Hampton for longer than 2 years, they are going to need to add a geriatric ward to the lockeroom. They can build special showers for Hampton, Farrior, Deshea, Carter, Hoke, Kirshke, and the Dr. Dick Lebeau.

RuthlessBurgher
01-16-2010, 05:13 PM
If they sign Hampton for longer than 2 years, they are going to need to add a geriatric ward to the lockeroom. They can build special showers for Hampton, Farrior, Deshea, Carter, Hoke, Kirshke, and the Dr. bad word Lebeau.

Carter, Deshea, and Kirschke are likely gone after this season. They are all unrestricted free agents and are currently 33, 34, and 35 years old, respectively.

Logic would tell you that guys as big as Hampton would have their bodies break down earlier than most. However, when all you have to do is be big and occupy blockers in the run game, you can last a long time. Ted Washington played 17 seasons. Sam Adams played 14 seasons. Casey Hampton is 32 with 9 years under his belt.

We can squeeze 3 more productive seasons out of him before putting him out to pasture (literally). After 3 more seasons, Casey will be the same age that Kirschke was this season, and he played reasonably well (he's no Aaron Smith, but then again no one is, but Travis did not embarass himself out there).

Unlike some other positions, you can rotate d-lineman to keep them fresh. It makes sense to keep Hampton around. And unlike some other positions, it doesn't really matter all that much if Hampton loses a step with age. If Townsend loses a step, it's a problem. If Farrior loses a step, it's a problem. If Hampton loses a step...not so much. He never had much of a step in the first place (and doesn't really need one...even in his prime, he wasn't chasing down QB's from behind).

He should be able to do what he does at for 3 more years at a reasonable level. Even at his age, how many NT's in the league are playing better than Hampton? You can say Ratliff in Dallas, but he is a penetrating NT in a different mold for a different scheme. You can say Haloti Ngata is a better player and everyone would agree, but Haloti doesn't line up on the nose in Baltimore...Kelly Gregg does. Maybe Aubrayo Franklin out in San Francisco, who is 29 and will likely be given the franchise tag by the Niners. Also Vince Wilfork in New England, but they still run somewhat of a hybrid scheme. Kris Jenkins is good in New York, but he has been in the league just as long as Hampton and is more injury-prone than Casey. Even on the downside of his career, he remains on par with those types of guys and not the dregs of the league.

Nose tackle is a keystone position to the 3-4, and if we did not have a good one, then our defense could potentially look even worse than it did this past season. That is a good enough argument to warrant bringing Casey back on a reasonable short-term deal.

BURGH86STEEL
01-16-2010, 05:23 PM
If they sign Hampton for longer than 2 years, they are going to need to add a geriatric ward to the lockeroom. They can build special showers for Hampton, Farrior, Deshea, Carter, Hoke, Kirshke, and the Dr. bad word Lebeau.

Carter, Deshea, and Kirschke are likely gone after this season. They are all unrestricted free agents and are currently 33, 34, and 35 years old, respectively.

Logic would tell you that guys as big as Hampton would have their bodies break down earlier than most. However, when all you have to do is be big and occupy blockers in the run game, you can last a long time. Ted Washington played 17 seasons. Sam Adams played 14 seasons. Casey Hampton is 32 with 9 years under his belt.

We can squeeze 3 more productive seasons out of him before putting him out to pasture (literally). After 3 more seasons, Casey will be the same age that Kirschke was this season, and he played reasonably well (he's no Aaron Smith, but then again no one is, but Travis did not embarass himself out there).

Unlike some other positions, you can rotate d-lineman to keep them fresh. It makes sense to keep Hampton around. And unlike some other positions, it doesn't really matter all that much if Hampton loses a step with age. If Townsend loses a step, it's a problem. If Farrior loses a step, it's a problem. If Hampton loses a step...not so much. He never had much of a step in the first place (and doesn't really need one...even in his prime, he wasn't chasing down QB's from behind).

He should be able to do what he does at for 3 more years at a reasonable level. Even at his age, how many NT's in the league are playing better than Hampton? You can say Ratliff in Dallas, but he is a penetrating NT in a different mold for a different scheme. You can say Haloti Ngata is a better player and everyone would agree, but Haloti doesn't line up on the nose in Baltimore...Kelly Gregg does. Maybe Aubrayo Franklin out in San Francisco, who is 29 and will likely be given the franchise tag by the Niners. Also Vince Wilfork in New England, but they still run somewhat of a hybrid scheme. Kris Jenkins is good in New York, but he has been in the league just as long as Hampton and is more injury-prone than Casey. Even on the downside of his career, he remains on par with those types of guys and not the dregs of the league.

Nose tackle is a keystone position to the 3-4, and if we did not have a good one, then our defense could potentially look even worse than it did this past season. That is a good enough argument to warrant bringing Casey back on a reasonable short-term deal.

Good points and I agree. Hampton probably has 2 or 3 good years left. Especially, since he is only a 2 down player. He might have 5 good years left with the way teams pass the ball.

Steel Life
01-16-2010, 05:37 PM
Regardless of Casey's contractual status, we need to continue drafting along the D-Line - do not get complacent, that's how the team got into the O-Line situation its in now. You cannot automatically assume that because a couple of guys at the same position have had long careers that Casey will as well.

Best Scenario...franchise him, draft or sign his eventual replacement & let him play out the string. The longer Casey stays, the longer we put off the evolution of the defense.

BURGH86STEEL
01-16-2010, 06:03 PM
Regardless of Casey's contractual status, we need to continue drafting along the D-Line - do not get complacent, that's how the team got into the O-Line situation its in now. You cannot automatically assume that because a couple of guys at the same position have had long careers that Casey will as well.

Best Scenario...franchise him, draft or sign his eventual replacement & let him play out the string. The longer Casey stays, the longer we put off the evolution of the defense.

Regarding the D-line or O-line, it is a difficult situation. There were never in a position to draft any top Olinemen. That is because they have been winning and they probably had one or to players they hoped to develop. I don't think they got into the situation with the Oline because they were complacent. They drafted more Olinemen then any other position since 2005. iIf there is one compliant, they may have missed out on a few solid Olinemen. Teams can't have it all at every position. Money is also a factor. Should the Steelers draft Olinemen just because or should they take a player think think will help the team? This is the situation they often find themselves questioning at almost every position.

If you are able to resign Hampton for 3 years, would you draft a NT in the first round this season? I think you would look to address another area of the team early in the draft. Maybe take a shot at a NT later in the draft. This is one predicament they have been in over the years. They were times they were able to draft for the future and times they were not able to. That is life in the NFL. Every team faces the same challenges. Steelers have done better then most.

Slapstick
01-16-2010, 06:58 PM
Resigning Hampton does not preclude a move to a 4-3 front at all...it does provide the Steelers with more options on defense...losing Hampton without an additional legit 3-4 NT on the roster (Hoke is 100% legit IMO) almost forces a move in that direction...

Mister Pittsburgh
01-16-2010, 09:29 PM
I like Casey coming into, and during a contract year so he doesn't let himself go. He is always at his decent weight and playing hard when a contract looms. If we franchise him, although he may not be happy, that big contract is still the next offseason so he better show up in shape and ready to go and do good things on film.

Although he will whine, unless he gives them a very fair deal, if I am the Steelers, I franchise him. Keep the carrot (big contract) dangling on the string.

Captain Lemming
01-16-2010, 10:02 PM
Although he will whine, unless he gives them a very fair deal, if I am the Steelers, I franchise him. Keep the carrot (big contract) dangling on the string.

I think a twinkie would be a much better choice.

Captain Lemming
01-16-2010, 10:07 PM
Gotta sign Casey!!!!

Not the most mobile guy, but he clogs the middle and is impossible to move.




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Mister Pittsburgh
01-17-2010, 10:24 AM
I am not going to be all 'the sky is falling' if we could land a future replacement in the top end of the draft and have said rookie get some snaps backing up Hoke. Hoke has shown he can play and has even shown, at times, he can play as well as or better than Hampton. Not sure he could handle a solid 16 game schedule manning the middle by himself, but if you can get a behemoth rookie he could spell Hoke.

Basically what I am saying is I wouldn't let Big Snack hold the franchise hostage for a huge contract. Not sure I like that Rooney 2 is coming out and saying Hampton is the #1 priority in the media, thus giving Hampton the sense he can (pun intended) throw his weight around, making unrealistic demands.

Chadman
01-17-2010, 06:18 PM
The Steelers have shown they are pretty smart cookies when it comes to signing, re-signing & letting go of players.

They RARELY overpay. That's not to say that they never overpay, but compared to the 'good' deals, it's pretty rare.

If the Steelers have plans to bring Casey back, chances are they already have a sum in mind, and if Casey's demands exceed that, well, you only need to look at how much room the Steelers 'gave up' to Alan Faneca to realise that the Steelers call the shots in contract negotiations.

Losing Casey Hampton SIGNIFICANTLY effects the route the Steelers go in FA & the draft. Given that the Steelers tend to try & solve all the 'needs' before the draft, if Casey isn't signed, expect a FA to be brought in. Unlike a few of you, Chadman has little confidence in Hoke being pushed into a starting role. We were all up in arms when the pass defense fell away this season- how will we react if the Steelers run defense is significantly effected by losing a Pro Bowl NT next season? Will Mr LeBeau be allowed to live?

feltdizz
01-17-2010, 06:50 PM
I would feel better if there was a guy Hamptons size already on the team if we let Casey go. I think we could have a Mahan type drop off on D if we let Casey go. I think he is worth decent money.

Chadman
01-17-2010, 06:52 PM
I would feel better if there was a guy Hamptons size already on the team if we let Casey go. I think we could have a Mahan type drop off on D if we let Casey go. I think he is worth decent money.

Chadman's thoughts exactly.

When your defense is built on stopping the run, when the key cog in a 3-4 defnse is your NT, when your back-up is OLDER than your starter, when your starting NT not only is maintaining his level of play, but also playing at a Pro Bowl level....

You re-sign him, and go from there.

Shoe
01-17-2010, 09:15 PM
Get rid of this complacent fatboy please.

SteelStallion
01-17-2010, 09:45 PM
I don't like resigning Hampton either because I'm concerned they'll
get into another Farrior situation.

But it's a catch 22. He's old, past his prime, doesn't command double team anymore, has conditioning issues (not deserving of pro bowl IMHO) and is seeking more money than he's worth. On the other hand they have no great replacement and losing him could risk decreased NT play on an already bad unit. They have Hoke who's played well in the past and has little mileage. Conversely he's old too now and prime-to-prime Hoke isn't Hampton. They could try Ziggy at NT but they seem not inclined to do that, and he played DE all year, and A. Smith is now in the M. Smith phase of his carreer with injuries and age so they need him where he's at. They have numerous other needs on defense...and so on and so on with these back and forth thoughts...a tough situation. I wish them luck.

Clearly they are trying to resign him. I don't know if he'll come down on price to their liking. My guess is if it doesn't work out they go with Hoke and draft a NT high, maybe bring some camp bodies. Will be interesting to see. Here's wishing them good luck :Cheers

Chadman
01-17-2010, 09:50 PM
Those of you that feel Casey is too old, or lazy, or not worth the money- what evidence is there of this?

Are you going on Casey's lack of conditioning at Training Camp 2 years ago?

How did that effect his play?

The Steelers Run-D is still elite, and Hampton is a big part of that.

Can't understand where this 'lazy & overpaid' stuff is coming from.

feltdizz
01-17-2010, 10:00 PM
Those of you that feel Casey is too old, or lazy, or not worth the money- what evidence is there of this?

Are you going on Casey's lack of conditioning at Training Camp 2 years ago?

How did that effect his play?

The Steelers Run-D is still elite, and Hampton is a big part of that.

Can't understand where this 'lazy & overpaid' stuff is coming from.

Casey said.. "I came to camp in shape, out of shape, I still got the job done."

I'm having a hard time understanding the Hampton talk as well. He is old but very productive and I think he has a good 3 years left in him.. He has played his way to a new contract if he isn't too greedy.

Shawn
01-17-2010, 10:09 PM
I think Hampton has 2 more solid seasons. I was actually impressed with him this season. But NT is a huge priority. Shoot our DL in general is a huge priority.

RuthlessBurgher
01-17-2010, 10:37 PM
The Steelers have shown they are pretty smart cookies when it comes to signing, re-signing & letting go of players.

They RARELY overpay. That's not to say that they never overpay, but compared to the 'good' deals, it's pretty rare.

If the Steelers have plans to bring Casey back, chances are they already have a sum in mind, and if Casey's demands exceed that, well, you only need to look at how much room the Steelers 'gave up' to Alan Faneca to realise that the Steelers call the shots in contract negotiations.

Losing Casey Hampton SIGNIFICANTLY effects the route the Steelers go in FA & the draft. Given that the Steelers tend to try & solve all the 'needs' before the draft, if Casey isn't signed, expect a FA to be brought in. Unlike a few of you, Chadman has little confidence in Hoke being pushed into a starting role. We were all up in arms when the pass defense fell away this season- how will we react if the Steelers run defense is significantly effected by losing a Pro Bowl NT next season? Will Mr LeBeau be allowed to live?

Hey! That's SAINT LeBeau to you, buddy!!! :wink:

Shoe
01-18-2010, 01:05 AM
Casey said.. "I came to camp in shape, out of shape, I still got the job done."

I'm having a hard time understanding the Hampton talk as well. He is old but very productive and I think he has a good 3 years left in him.. He has played his way to a new contract if he isn't too greedy.

It's precisely that kind of talk that I'm talking about. Acting as if rules of physics shouldn't/don't apply to him is a dead giveaway to me where he is in terms of attitude. What--fat doesn't affect his stamina? Is he the only one in the planet who it doesn't? Lard doesn't affect his durability?

I'm not saying he's not still effective--hell, most of being a good 34 NT is not being budged in the run game (and who could budge that hydrant). And he's naturally instinctive and very experienced. I'm not even saying that our older guys should be subjected to the same rigid hard/fast practice & workout schedule as everyone else.

But to bring that sense of entitlement--I think that's bad. Hines doesn't say that kind of stuff. Ray Lewis doesn't expect no laxed rules. Neither does Peyton. Or Faneca. Or even T.O. The coach should be the one to evaluate that.

I don't care what he thinks... being fat and out-of-shape has a bearing on everything, most notably durability and longevity. I just think he (and we) have been fortunate that he's been relatively injury-free these past couple years.

Shawn
01-18-2010, 01:11 AM
I will agree with you on that one point Shoe. That attitude at best is complacent. Even if can "get the job" done at 60%...why should we accept that? Why wouldn't he give us 100% for all that cash? I do think he works when he is here but his preseasoning condition leaves alot to be desired.

feltdizz
01-18-2010, 01:25 AM
Casey Hamptons job is to clog the middle. Every great NT looks unheathy and overweight. When his production declines then I will worry about his work ethic.

I don't need my NT to talk like Hines or have the focus of Peyton Manning. I need him fat and stout. Do you know what years Casey was lazy in the offseason? He has been with us long enough to prove he has the talent.

His 60% is pro bowl most years... I don't want 100% Hoke if it's still below Caseys production

Shawn
01-18-2010, 01:28 AM
Casey Hamptons job is to clog the middle. Every great NT looks unheathy and overweight. When his production declines then I will worry about his work ethic.

I don't need my NT to talk like Hines or have the focus of Peyton Manning. I need him fat and stout. Do you know what years Casey was lazy in the offseason? He has been with us long enough to prove he has the talent.

The only question I have...is how much better would he be if he came to camp in shape? Its anyones guess.

feltdizz
01-18-2010, 01:36 AM
Casey Hamptons job is to clog the middle. Every great NT looks unheathy and overweight. When his production declines then I will worry about his work ethic.

I don't need my NT to talk like Hines or have the focus of Peyton Manning. I need him fat and stout. Do you know what years Casey was lazy in the offseason? He has been with us long enough to prove he has the talent.

The only question I have...is how much better would he be if he came to camp in shape? Its anyones guess.

I don't know... but I think Casey still brings it. I think his way works just fine. Maybe he figured out training camp is all he needs. I don't see why people want Casey to change... It's not like he is on IR or getting beat at the end of games.

SteelAbility
01-18-2010, 08:30 AM
Then a good team chef is also going to have to be a high priority. :wink: :P

Mister Pittsburgh
01-18-2010, 01:36 PM
If the Steelers feel 100% they need him back next year, franchising him is a must. Don't sign him up for a longer term deal or anything.

BigLebowski
01-18-2010, 10:18 PM
If the Steelers feel 100% they need him back next year, franchising him is a must. Don't sign him up for a longer term deal or anything.
Agreed and/or draft Terrence Cody.

NorCal-Steeler
01-18-2010, 10:42 PM
yeah have him drop 50 lbs and watch him get pushed all over the place then instead of everyone saying he has weight issues they can say he is washed up. Give the man the contract and also let him run the ball in short yardage situations and earn his pay, that solves 2 problems.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
01-19-2010, 11:59 AM
Those of you that feel Casey is too old, or lazy, or not worth the money- what evidence is there of this?

Are you going on Casey's lack of conditioning at Training Camp 2 years ago?

How did that effect his play?

The Steelers Run-D is still elite, and Hampton is a big part of that.

Can't understand where this 'lazy & overpaid' stuff is coming from.

The other great argument for letting Casey go is that Hoke is just as good as a replacement. Remember when Casey went down and Hoke played almost the entire season while maintaining the elite level of D?

That was 2004 - 6 years ago by next season. And Hoke is more than a year older than fat, lazy, old Casey.

ikestops85
01-19-2010, 12:56 PM
I think Casey played at a higher level this year than he has for the last 3 or 4 years. I don't know whether it's because it was a contract year or not. That is my only reservation with re-signing him.

Casey seems to play great when he is motivated but meh when he has nothing to play for. I think his contract needs to be incentive laden if we do resign him ... or like others have said just franchise him. That will keep him motivated.

Slapstick
01-19-2010, 01:50 PM
Don't sell Hoke short...

I saw him catch Randy Moss behind the line of scrimmage the last time the Steelers played the Pats...

I also saw him drop into coverage against GB and disrupt a 3rd down pass play...

I would have no qualms staring Hoke, one year older than Casey or not...

That being said, Casey should be a Steeler next year...but, if he isn't, I don't worry about Hoke...

Mister Pittsburgh
01-19-2010, 01:58 PM
yeah have him drop 50 lbs and watch him get pushed all over the place then instead of everyone saying he has weight issues they can say he is washed up. Give the man the contract and also let him run the ball in short yardage situations and earn his pay, that solves 2 problems.

Muscle weighs more than fat. Maybe he should work out in the weightroom harder and put down the fork a little more.

feltdizz
01-19-2010, 03:55 PM
[quote="NorCal-Steeler":1b8q18z2]yeah have him drop 50 lbs and watch him get pushed all over the place then instead of everyone saying he has weight issues they can say he is washed up. Give the man the contract and also let him run the ball in short yardage situations and earn his pay, that solves 2 problems.

Muscle weighs more than fat. Maybe he should work out in the weightroom harder and put down the fork a little more.[/quote:1b8q18z2]
If muscle weighs more than fat... Casey is the Hulk.

Are you suggesting Casey gain more muscle mass which would mean more weight... and since he isn't going to get any taller we would call him fat and lazy?

The guy is a NT... Being fat and low anchored is the number one priority.