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feltdizz
01-12-2010, 05:46 PM
Not even close...

Charles Woodson, CB, Packers 28
Darrelle Revis, CB, Jets 14
Elvis Dumervil, LB, Broncos 3
Darren Sharper, S, Saints 3
Jared Allen, DE, Vikings 2


:wft
503 yards by Ben and no INT's...

400+ yards by Warner and 12 TD's.. Woodsen did strip Fitz but he was burned for 3 TD's too and gave up 10 extra yards on what should have been the game winning FG.

But remember.... he intercepted Cutler about 4 times this season. This is a sham IMO. Patrick Willis isn't even on the list.

Jom112
01-12-2010, 05:51 PM
In Woodson's defense in the Cardinals game, Larry Fitz pretty much ran him over to catch 2 or 3 of those balls. Clearly offensive PI that wasn't called.

It was called on Randy Moss in the game against the Ravens. Should have been called on Fitz as well...

feltdizz
01-12-2010, 05:59 PM
In Woodson's defense in the Cardinals game, Larry Fitz pretty much ran him over to catch 2 or 3 of those balls. Clearly offensive PI that wasn't called.

It was called on Randy Moss in the game against the Ravens. Should have been called on Fitz as well...


Randy Moss didn't have the ball thrown to him on that penalty. I was surprised it was called.

I can give Woodsen the benefit on 1 TD but if it isn't called the first time around adjust. I think Woodsen is good but this year Revis was out of his mind. Woodsen's team was gouged for so many yards I don't see how he got it.

phillyesq
01-12-2010, 06:17 PM
I think this should have gone to Revis, no question. If you look at the #1 WRs he shut out every week, the list is quite impressive.

Woodson had more guady statistics and splash plays, but Revis deserves the award, no doubt.

SteelBucks
01-12-2010, 07:18 PM
I think this should have gone to Revis, no question. If you look at the #1 WRs he shut out every week, the list is quite impressive.

Woodson had more guady statistics and splash plays, but Revis deserves the award, no doubt.

:Agree

Jom112
01-12-2010, 07:33 PM
I think it had to be either Woodson or Revis. Both deserved it. Revis was better in coverage but Woodson was better against the run.

Plus you can't discount Woodson's 13 turnovers created (9 INT's and 4 FF's). Those were game changers...

feltdizz
01-12-2010, 07:53 PM
I think it had to be either Woodson or Revis. Both deserved it. Revis was better in coverage but Woodson was better against the run.

Plus you can't discount Woodson's 13 turnovers created (9 INT's and 4 FF's). Those were game changers...
Revis shut down half the field. I'm not discounting Woodson's TO's... but the impact of them may be up for debate. Cutler worked hard to give him 2 or 3 INT's...lol! I guess my real beef is Revis stopped 8 of the top 11 WR from getting 40 yards and only gave up 1 TD... 1 total. I think that has way more impact then 13 TO's... sure it's a high number but when you look at GB playing Stafford and Cutler 2 times a year it puts things in perspective. I wouldn't be surprised if half his TO's came in those 4 games.

Simply put... Revis changed game plans... Woodson is decent but I don't remember his name when he played us. I still remember that Revis INT a few years ago though... My uncle coached him in HS and he is from my part of PA so... I'm bias. But if you look at the stats besides maybe tackle total I can't see how you give a guy on a D that gives up so many yards in the air.

NJ-STEELER
01-12-2010, 08:30 PM
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Plus you can't discount Woodson's 13 turnovers created (9 INT's and 4 FF's). Those were game changers...

thats the difference.


ware had more sacks then harrison last year, but i bet harrison created more turnovers and TO that led to TDs

feltdizz
01-12-2010, 08:44 PM
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Plus you can't discount Woodson's 13 turnovers created (9 INT's and 4 FF's). Those were game changers...

thats the difference.


ware had more sacks then harrison last year, but i bet harrison created more turnovers and TO that led to TDs

I disagree... if you look at how many TD's Woodson gave up it becomes a wash IMO. Look at the AZ game, he had a forced fumble but was beat for 3 TD's and the D gave up 400+ yards in the air.

I'm torn because I watched GB get gashed in the air a ton this year and Woodson wasn't a factor in a lot of good games. Oh well... At least Revis has another week to show the voters their mistake.

Woodson has done a ton of charity off the field so Im not too mad. He is a good guy.

Shoe
01-12-2010, 09:53 PM
I think this should have gone to Revis, no question. If you look at the #1 WRs he shut out every week, the list is quite impressive.

Woodson had more guady statistics and splash plays, but Revis deserves the award, no doubt.

Well put.
Woodson had more than his share of splash plays, but Revis' year was UNBELIEVABLE. The list of WR's who he held to <35 yards is truly oustanding... historic really, when you consider today's rules (slanted toward passing) and how much man coverage they expect of him.

It is almost highway robbery; Revis will NEVER have a year that great. No one will... it's a crying shame.

papillon
01-12-2010, 11:16 PM
In Woodson's defense in the Cardinals game, Larry Fitz pretty much ran him over to catch 2 or 3 of those balls. Clearly offensive PI that wasn't called.

It was called on Randy Moss in the game against the Ravens. Should have been called on Fitz as well...


Randy Moss didn't have the ball thrown to him on that penalty. I was surprised it was called.

I can give Woodsen the benefit on 1 TD but if it isn't called the first time around adjust. I think Woodsen is good but this year Revis was out of his mind. Woodsen's team was gouged for so many yards I don't see how he got it.

Revis held the following receiver to less than 35 yards each in their matchups this year: Randy Moss, Andre Johnson, Chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne and there's a couple others that I can't think of right now.

That's outstanding defending.

Pappy

feltdizz
01-13-2010, 03:16 AM
In Woodson's defense in the Cardinals game, Larry Fitz pretty much ran him over to catch 2 or 3 of those balls. Clearly offensive PI that wasn't called.

It was called on Randy Moss in the game against the Ravens. Should have been called on Fitz as well...


Randy Moss didn't have the ball thrown to him on that penalty. I was surprised it was called.

I can give Woodsen the benefit on 1 TD but if it isn't called the first time around adjust. I think Woodsen is good but this year Revis was out of his mind. Woodsen's team was gouged for so many yards I don't see how he got it.


Revis held the following receiver to less than 35 yards each in their matchups this year: Randy Moss, Andre Johnson, Chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne and there's a couple others that I can't think of right now.

That's outstanding defending.

Pappy

Steve Smith too...
Terrell Owens got 44 yards on him one game.

8 of the top 11 WR's and 1 TD... 1 freaking TD... it's robbery the more you think about it.

SteelAbility
01-13-2010, 08:30 AM
Yes. Reevis deserved the award. He is single-handedly shutting down half of teams' passing game making everyone else's job much easier. It's when you make the guys around you the better that you are the most effective.

I wasn't aware of this until this morning, but the Jets gave up 8 passing TDs all year. Rex Ryan said that in a statement response to the DPOTY results.

But the media are enamored of splash plays. Hell, didn't Ty Carter win DPOTW for his INT return when we played the Broncos? Ty frikkin' Carter?? :wft

Iron Shiek
01-13-2010, 01:31 PM
Yes. Reevis deserved the award. He is single-handedly shutting down half of teams' passing game making everyone else's job much easier. It's when you make the guys around you the better that you are the most effective.

I wasn't aware of this until this morning, but the Jets gave up 8 passing TDs all year. Rex Ryan said that in a statement response to the DPOTY results.

But the media are enamored of splash plays. Hell, didn't Ty Carter win DPOTW for his INT return when we played the Broncos? Ty frikkin' Carter?? :wft

I can't remember if that was one of those situation where fans are allowed to vote. I have a sneaky feeling it was, and that I voted for TC. I feel dirty now, I need a shower. :HeadBanger

feltdizz
01-13-2010, 01:55 PM
I think the sportswriters picked this and you know most of them love to go against the grain. On paper maybe Woodson's numbers jumps out but if you watched this year you would see he had a very high burn rate too...

steelernation77
01-13-2010, 02:08 PM
Woodson mugs receivers but doesn't get called for it.

SteelAbility
01-13-2010, 05:49 PM
Woodson mugs receivers but doesn't get called for it.

James Harrison mugs receivers too. But when he does he gets called for it. :wink:

aggiebones
01-13-2010, 05:57 PM
Would the Ariz game even count in the voting since its playoffs? I thought it was a regular season thing.

With respect to Revis. He had a very easy schedule. Do it for another season and he'll win. Yes, its on this season, but these votes always factor in a fluke factor.

feltdizz
01-13-2010, 06:41 PM
Would the Ariz game even count in the voting since its playoffs? I thought it was a regular season thing.

With respect to Revis. He had a very easy schedule. Do it for another season and he'll win. Yes, its on this season, but these votes always factor in a fluke factor.

so did GB..

Cincy
Cleveland
ravens
49ers
Seattle
AZ
Dallas
bears 2x
lions 2x

not the hardest schedule in regards to QB's and he was torched by us.

NJ-STEELER
01-16-2010, 02:28 AM
you're best evidence is a playoff game (which wasn't counted in the voting) where fitz ran over him for 2 TDs but had a pretty normal statistical day with (for fitz anyway ) 6 catches and 82 yards.


i dont quite remember who woodson was covering on each and every pass when we played him , but know he was never on wallace for his 2 TD's and 80 yds receiving.

IIRC,I dont remember him covering hines that much either(126 yards), nor do i think he was really responsible for any of heath's 118 yds receiving or mendy's/moore's catching out of the backfield (another 100 yds or so)


holmes had 3 catches and 77 yards and he may been on him and hines a little too... i wouldn't say we picked on "him" all day....
the GB defense, as a whole...yes, we absolutely torched them.


revis had a great year,

revis is younger and if he does it again , will win a DPOY award soon. they gave it to the veteran with more "splash" plays