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Oviedo
01-08-2010, 03:03 PM
Good info when you think about what you would do? For anyone still stupid enough to think the Rooney's are cheap check out some of the names. We pay our free agents anot someone elses. Thats not cheap, it's smart.

Hopefully it will shine a light of common sense on the free agent acquisition advocates. Top free agents get this kind of money and we aren't paying it. So take that out of your off season plans now, e.g. Cornerback or Safety.


Dollars and Sense:



By Ian Whetstone
SteelCityInsider.com
Posted Jan 8, 2010



SCI salary cap wizard Ian Whetstone projects the NFL's franchise and transition tag tender amounts for 2010.

I'm just wrapping up the end-of-season updates of my salary cap spreadsheets, so I can now project with better confidence the non-exclusive franchise and transition tag amounts for 2010.
I'll be off on some of these numbers for various reasons, but based on the last couple of years these projections usually wind up being pretty close to the mark.

Here are the tender amounts that I'm projecting, along with the player salaries that factored into the amounts:

CORNERBACK

CB Champ Bailey $13,188,525
CB Dunta Robinson $9,957,000
CB Asante Samuel $9,900,000
CB Darrelle Revis $7,425,916
CB Corey Webster $7,357,500
CB Charles Woodson $7,200,000
CB Chris Gamble $7,000,000
CB Kelvin Hayden $6,430,000
CB Antoine Winfield $6,100,000
CB Nnamdi Asomugha $6,000,000
CB Franchise $9,566,000 Transition $8,056,000

DEFENSIVE END

DE Julius Peppers $16,683,000
DE Jared Allen $13,483,344
DE Dwight Freeney $11,220,000
DE Justin Smith $10,083,333
DE Will Smith $9,271,666
DE Corey Williams $8,783,333
DE Aaron Schobel $8,066,670
DE Luis Castillo $8,058,500
DE Leonard Little $7,610,000
DE Derrick Harvey $7,527,500
DE Franchise $12,148,000 Transition $10,079,000

DEFENSIVE TACKLE

DT Tommie Harris $8,590,000
DT Albert Haynesworth $7,000,000
DT Shaun Rogers $6,573,333
DT Jonathan Babineaux $6,500,000
DT Casey Hampton $6,452,084
DT Tommy Kelly $6,336,266
DT Kris Jenkins $5,650,000
DT Marcus Stroud $5,591,666
DT John Henderson $5,490,000
DT Pat Williams $5,410,540
DT Franchise $7,023,000 Transition $6,359,000

LINEBACKER

LB DeMarcus Ware $11,437,000
LB Karlos Dansby $9,678,000
LB Brian Urlacher $9,175,505
LB Keith Bulluck $9,108,670
LB Bart Scott $9,000,000
LB Joey Porter $7,200,000
LB Calvin Pace $6,686,862
LB Lance Briggs $6,516,666
LB DJ Williams $6,501,000
LB Julian Peterson $6,500,000
LB Franchise $9,680,000 Transition $8,180,000

OFFENSIVE LINE

OL Joe Staley $13,520,000
OL Jason Peters $12,700,000
OL Walter Jones $9,800,000
OL Jake Long $9,600,000
OL Chad Clifton $8,034,170
OL Jeff Faine $8,000,000
OL Alan Faneca $7,840,000
OL Steve Hutchinson $7,450,000
OL Jeff Backus $7,223,176
OL Kris Dielman $7,200,000
OL Franchise $10,731,000 Transition $9,137,000

PUNTER/KICKER

P/K Shane Lechler $3,100,000
P/K Robbie Gould $2,900,000
P/K Joe Nedney $2,862,500
P/K Adam Vinatieri $2,695,000
P/K Josh Brown $2,600,000
P/K Sebastian Janikowsi $2,510,000
P/K Shayne Graham $2,483,000
P/K Michael Koenen $2,483,000
P/K Kris Brown $2,480,000
P/K Ryan Longwell $2,450,000
P/K Franchise $2,832,000 Transition $2,656,000

QUARTERBACK

QB Peyton Manning $21,199,998
QB Donovan McNabb $16,766,670
QB Matt Cassel $15,200,000
QB Tom Brady $14,620,000
QB Carson Palmer $14,300,000
QB JaMarcus Russell $13,611,455
QB Ben Roethlisberger $13,220,000
QB Eli Manning $13,066,668
QB Brett Favre $12,000,000
QB Phillip Rivers $11,535,000
QB Franchise $16,417,000 Transition $14,552,000

RUNNING BACK

RB Reggie Bush $12,085,000
RB Brian Westbrook $11,883,334
RB LaDainian Tomlinson $7,541,669
RB Steven Jackson $7,399,166
RB Darren Sproles $6,621,000
RB Clinton Portis $6,171,085
RB Frank Gore $6,164,250
RB Jamal Lewis $6,143,750
RB Maurice Jones-Drew $6,090,000
RB Ronnie Brown $6,056,933
RB Franchise $9,106,000 Transition $7,616,000

SAFETY

S Adrian Wilson $7,039,503
S Troy Polamalu $6,495,000
S Ed Reed $6,400,000
S OJ Atogwe $6,342,021
S Chris Hope $6,000,002
S Ken Hamlin $5,805,000
S LaRon Landry $5,644,333
S Bob Sanders $5,630,836
S Madieu Williams $5,286,666
S Kerry Rhodes $5,502,666
S Franchise $6,455,000 Transition $6,015,000

TIGHT END

TE Dallas Clark $6,773,333
TE Daniel Graham $6,450,000
TE Todd Heap $6,367,500
TE Kellen Winslow $5,170,000
TE Vernon Davis $4,780,000
TE Jason Witten $4,700,000
TE Heath Miller $4,672,500
TE Randy McMichael $4,600,000
TE Tony Gonzalez $4,500,000
TE Bo Scaife $4,462,000
TE Franchise $5,908,000 Transition $5,248,000

WIDE RECEIVER

WR Larry Fitzgerald $10,893,332
WR Antonio Bryant $9,884,000
WR Randy Moss $9,650,000
WR Steve Smith $8,997,527
WR Greg Jennings $8,147,500
WR Roddy White $8,106,250
WR Chad Johnson $7,665,574
WR Deion Branch $7,540,000
WR Andre Johnson $7,466,752
WR Laveranues Coles $7,400,000
WR Franchise $9,514,000 Transition $8,575,000

feltdizz
01-08-2010, 03:08 PM
This is why it sucks to draft in the top 5..

Jamarcus makes more then Ben?

Reggie Bush makes the most as a RB and the only time I hear his name is when the butt model is mentioned.

steelblood
01-08-2010, 03:12 PM
Thanks for the info. I think the only FAs that we have that would be worth a tag are Casey and Reed.

Oviedo
01-08-2010, 03:19 PM
Thanks for the info. I think the only FAs that we have that would be worth a tag are Casey and Reed.

Colon is the hard issue here. Is he the best OLmen we have and worth $9M per year under a transition tag?

That decision will determine whether OL is on the table for Round 1 or not.

Jom112
01-08-2010, 03:23 PM
DE Derrick Harvey $7,527,500


:lol:

Thanks for jumping on that grenade Jacksonville...

SteelerNation1
01-08-2010, 03:27 PM
DEFENSIVE TACKLE

DT Tommie Harris $8,590,000
DT Albert Haynesworth $7,000,000
DT Shaun Rogers $6,573,333
DT Jonathan Babineaux $6,500,000
DT Casey Hampton $6,452,084
DT Tommy Kelly $6,336,266
DT Kris Jenkins $5,650,000
DT Marcus Stroud $5,591,666
DT John Henderson $5,490,000
DT Pat Williams $5,410,540
DT Franchise $7,023,000 Transition $6,359,000
Really, franchising Snack may not be a bad idea. I'm just worried we get an "unmotivated" 7 million dollar man if we do it.

Oviedo
01-08-2010, 03:33 PM
DE Derrick Harvey $7,527,500


:lol:

Thanks for jumping on that grenade Jacksonville...

I guess one good thing about the 3-4 defense is it will cheaper to resign Woodley as a LB than a DE.

SteelBucks
01-08-2010, 03:38 PM
DEFENSIVE TACKLE

DT Tommie Harris $8,590,000
DT Albert Haynesworth $7,000,000
DT Shaun Rogers $6,573,333
DT Jonathan Babineaux $6,500,000
DT Casey Hampton $6,452,084
DT Tommy Kelly $6,336,266
DT Kris Jenkins $5,650,000
DT Marcus Stroud $5,591,666
DT John Henderson $5,490,000
DT Pat Williams $5,410,540
DT Franchise $7,023,000 Transition $6,359,000
Really, franchising Snack may not be a bad idea. I'm just worried we get an "unmotivated" 7 million dollar man if we do it.

That's my fear as well. Hampton said he would hold out if they use the Tag on him and would only report if a long term contract could be reached.

feltdizz
01-08-2010, 03:39 PM
DEFENSIVE TACKLE

DT Tommie Harris $8,590,000
DT Albert Haynesworth $7,000,000
DT Shaun Rogers $6,573,333
DT Jonathan Babineaux $6,500,000
DT Casey Hampton $6,452,084
DT Tommy Kelly $6,336,266
DT Kris Jenkins $5,650,000
DT Marcus Stroud $5,591,666
DT John Henderson $5,490,000
DT Pat Williams $5,410,540
DT Franchise $7,023,000 Transition $6,359,000
Really, franchising Snack may not be a bad idea. I'm just worried we get an "unmotivated" 7 million dollar man if we do it.

Hampton is worth it IMO.. I haven't seen the drop off some people claim to see...
Like Snack said.. he's been in shape, out of shape.. doesn't matter..

feltdizz
01-08-2010, 03:40 PM
DEFENSIVE TACKLE

DT Tommie Harris $8,590,000
DT Albert Haynesworth $7,000,000
DT Shaun Rogers $6,573,333
DT Jonathan Babineaux $6,500,000
DT Casey Hampton $6,452,084
DT Tommy Kelly $6,336,266
DT Kris Jenkins $5,650,000
DT Marcus Stroud $5,591,666
DT John Henderson $5,490,000
DT Pat Williams $5,410,540
DT Franchise $7,023,000 Transition $6,359,000
Really, franchising Snack may not be a bad idea. I'm just worried we get an "unmotivated" 7 million dollar man if we do it.

That's my fear as well. Hampton said he would hold out if they use the Tag on him and would only report if a long term contract could be reached.

oh.. well then we need to back load a contract or let him walk.

calmkiller
01-08-2010, 03:54 PM
Thanks for the info. I think the only FAs that we have that would be worth a tag are Casey and Reed.

Colon is the hard issue here. Is he the best OLmen we have and worth $9M per year under a transition tag?

That decision will determine whether OL is on the table for Round 1 or not.

Colon isn't an issue, He will be a restricted FA again after this year because he hasn't been in the league 6 years. CBA rule.

phillyesq
01-08-2010, 04:12 PM
I think Hampton is a very strong candidate for the franchise tag. He was in the top 10 at the position last year anyway, and wouldn't take up much more cap room. I think that the Steelers almost have to franchise him while drafting a long-term answer at the position.

I'm not 100% on this, but if there is an uncapped year, I think that the teams get 1 franchise and 2 transition tags. I could be dead wrong.

I think that Colon will be extended, but if he isn't, then I think he is a candidate for the transition tag. I never though I'd say this, but he played pretty well this year.

Finally, although Reed is a potential candidate for franchise/transition, the number for that position is higher than I expected. I'd like to see Reed retained; he is very reliable on FGs, which is more than you can say for most kickers in the league. As much as I'd like him back, I don't think that he is worth nearly $3 million/pear.

RuthlessBurgher
01-08-2010, 04:27 PM
Give Hampton a franchise tag: $7,023,000

Give Reed a transition tag: $2,656,000

(This gives each player a raise of a bit more than a half million if they sign the one year deal without negotiating something longer-term).

Give Colon an RFA tender: $2,198,000 (that is what he was tendered at this past season...the number may go up for this coming season, but I would not expect by much)

They could try to negotiate smaller deals with Clark or Parker, but neither would be worth the tag amounts for their respective positions by a longshot.

steelblood
01-08-2010, 05:02 PM
Thanks for the info. I think the only FAs that we have that would be worth a tag are Casey and Reed.

Colon is the hard issue here. Is he the best OLmen we have and worth $9M per year under a transition tag?

That decision will determine whether OL is on the table for Round 1 or not.

Colon isn't an issue, He will be a restricted FA again after this year because he hasn't been in the league 6 years. CBA rule.

Correct, if a new CBA is not agreed upon in the next month or so, Colon will be an RFA for two more years.

D Rock
01-08-2010, 05:26 PM
I'd take that 6.5 mil or so coming off the books for Hampton and use it to sign the best young NT available

Hampton is going to want more. He's in the Pro Bowl this year...He'll want a raise. But he's getting old.

Fortunately since he was already being paid top dollar, that frees up top dollar money to spend on a player who will have a longer career remaining than Snack will.

RuthlessBurgher
01-09-2010, 03:39 PM
I'd take that 6.5 mil or so coming off the books for Hampton and use it to sign the best young NT available

Hampton is going to want more. He's in the Pro Bowl this year...He'll want a raise. But he's getting old.

Fortunately since he was already being paid top dollar, that frees up top dollar money to spend on a player who will have a longer career remaining than Snack will.

Quality d-lineman don't just suddenly become available, though (particularly since teams will be getting extra tags due to the lack of a new CBA). For example, Aubrayo Franklin is a high quality NT whose contract is up, but San Francisco will franchise him, taking him off the market. I think the best bet is to tag Snack to get one more good year out of him and draft a potential replacement for the future, who would be ready to take over in 2011 when we let Casey walk.

pfelix73
01-09-2010, 08:15 PM
Yea- Casey needs to be franchised if a contract can't be worked out by then. We need a RT, maybe from free agency. I disagree with philly- I thought Colon had an off year- especially in December. Too many mistakes....should probably be moved back to G- IMO.

:tt1

stlrz d
01-09-2010, 08:19 PM
Yea- Casey needs to be franchised if a contract can't be worked out by then. We need a RT, maybe from free agency. I disagree with philly- I thought Colon had an off year- especially in December. Too many mistakes....should probably be moved back to G- IMO.

:tt1

Tunch and Wolf say Colon's not a guard...I'll take their word for it.

pfelix73
01-09-2010, 08:31 PM
I know they say that so do the Steeler coaches- after all he's the starting RT on a NFL team. I never questioned that until now.. His arms are not long enough to be an 'effective' Tackle- IMO. I'd like to see a change at RT. This actually goes against everything I've said about the OL for the past few years, as it's always best to have cohesion along the OL. But I now think a bigger RT would be an asset.

FYI- Wolf always liked Essex too- (works out with him as I recall) and Essex finally got his calling this year. I think Essex did a good job his 1st year as the RG.

I like our OL- with Colon in a contract year, they can afford to shop- IMO.

stlrz d
01-09-2010, 08:33 PM
I like Essex too (SN1, STFU! :D) and I also think Foster did a nice job filling in.

pfelix73
01-09-2010, 08:38 PM
Foster played well down the stretch- I agree. I just don't know where he would play at this point- Kemo is MUCH better at pulling to the right and opening up some holes, so there's no way I'd move Foster over Kemo at this point...

A luxury we have as we're getting some depth along the OL now. If only Hills would pan out now....compete at RT. Am I asking too much?

stlrz d
01-09-2010, 08:43 PM
Foster played well down the stretch- I agree. I just don't know where he would play at this point- Kemo is MUCH better at pulling to the right and opening up some holes, so there's no way I'd move Foster over Kemo at this point...

A luxury we have as we're getting some depth along the OL now. If only Hills would pan out now....compete at RT. Am I asking too much?

No. :P

papillon
01-09-2010, 11:55 PM
When do the Steelers have to make a decision on Hampton? Before or after the draft?

Pappy

pfelix73
01-10-2010, 01:23 AM
Way before the draft.-February- March timeframe.. Probably Feb.

MaxAMillion
01-10-2010, 01:33 AM
Hampton has already said he will hold out if he gets franchised. I have seen several post saying just put the tag on Hampton. That will not get a motivated Hampton into camp. The Steelers either pay him or let him go. My guess is they will try to sign him.

pfelix73
01-10-2010, 01:53 AM
Once he thinks about it for a few minutes or so, I'm sure he'd be ok with the tag. Then again, he could be just as stupid as a brick. Let's see, on one hand he could get a raise and earn in excess of $7 million for a year OR he can sit out the year and get fined, make no $ and probably eat more twinkies than usual, and balloon up to 400lbs.

Gee, I wonder which way I would go? All he has to do is go over to Maxie's place in the locker room and ask him how his transition tag worked for him..

:tt1

RuthlessBurgher
01-10-2010, 08:02 PM
Hampton has already said he will hold out if he gets franchised. I have seen several post saying just put the tag on Hampton. That will not get a motivated Hampton into camp. The Steelers either pay him or let him go. My guess is they will try to sign him.

I think he will only hold out of camp (not hold out into the actual season). Veteran players hate training camp in the August heat (especially the guy that was force to run laps there a couple of seasons ago). Many players have done this before (Walter Jones used to make it an annual event to hold out of training camp, but would then be good to go by the time the actual season started. No worries here. I think they will try to sign him to a reasonable deal and the franchise tag will be the backup plan in case a deal cannot be reached.

pfelix73
01-11-2010, 12:39 AM
:Agree

There ya go- sounds good to me... He'll hold out of camp because of the work that's involved.

buckeyehoppy
01-11-2010, 03:41 AM
Once he thinks about it for a few minutes or so, I'm sure he'd be ok with the tag. Then again, he could be just as stupid as a brick. Let's see, on one hand he could get a raise and earn in excess of $7 million for a year OR he can sit out the year and get fined, make no $ and probably eat more twinkies than usual, and balloon up to 400lbs.

Gee, I wonder which way I would go? All he has to do is go over to Maxie's place in the locker room and ask him how his transition tag worked for him..

:tt1

Yahtzee!

That hits it right on the head, Felix. And you know the front office will invoke the name of Maxie Feast in any negotiation with Big Snack.

FWIW, Hampton will be coming off a Pro Bowl year and will be 33 at the start of next season. For all the physical abuse interior linemen take on both sides of the ball, they have surprisingly long shelf lives. If push came to shove, I would hardly object if they could get Snacky to put ink on a 3-year deal. He's a big load. But he seems to have (relatively speaking) good health on his side.

However, I could see the FO winning in any holdout scenario this off-season with the CBA being in flux the way it is.