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Oviedo
01-07-2010, 12:45 PM
Texas:
Earl Thomas, S/CB
Sergio Kindle, OLB
Adam Ulatoski, OT
Lamar Houston, DT

Alabama:
Ro McClain, ILB (my #1 Round 1 choice but will be gone)
"Fat" Cody, NT (see if he plays on 3rd down
Javier Arenas, CB
Mike Johnson, OG
Peek, TE

Jom112
01-07-2010, 01:24 PM
I hear Earl Thomas isn't entering the draft this season...

grotonsteel
01-07-2010, 01:47 PM
I will be watching Earl Thomas, S/CB (My 1st Rd pick) closely.

Mt Cody
Ro McClain, ILB
Rashard johnson, S Bama

grotonsteel
01-07-2010, 01:48 PM
I hear Earl Thomas isn't entering the draft this season...

This sucks....if true

Shawn
01-07-2010, 02:46 PM
Mt Cody isn't fat...he is big boneded. :)

feltdizz
01-07-2010, 02:51 PM
I just want the final college game to live up to the hype...

Jom112
01-07-2010, 02:59 PM
I hear Earl Thomas isn't entering the draft this season...

This sucks....if true

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/colle ... homas.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/2010/01/05/2010-01-05_weiss_a_texas_miracle_for_thomas.html)



He apparently is having too much fun to leave. Despite having the option to declare for the NFL draft as a redshirt sophomore, Thomas has already said he will return to Texas. That is music to the ears of Longhorns coach Mack Brown.

steelblood
01-07-2010, 03:37 PM
Mike Johnson is an awesome talent. He really dominated against Florida. I can't see us drafting a G early. But, if we did, I'd want him and not that Iupati dude that is rated higher.

Jom112
01-07-2010, 03:52 PM
Mike Johnson is an awesome talent. He really dominated against Florida. I can't see us drafting a G early. But, if we did, I'd want him and not that Iupati dude that is rated higher.

Granted I only watched Iupati once, but that guy is a bulldozer. Best run blocking I've seen in college this season...

Oviedo
01-07-2010, 05:04 PM
Timely article from SI


Scouting 2010 NFL Draft prospects playing in BCS Championship Game Story Highlights


By Tony Pauline, Special to SI.com, TFYDraft.com




The eyes of the football world will be on Pasadena this week as Alabama squares off against Texas in the national championship game. NFL decision-makers have a keen interest in this game as four defensive prospects could be first-round picks in April's draft. Overall, almost a dozen players in this game have the chance to be selected before the third round of the draft concludes. Here are the top 15 NFL prospects playing in the BCS Championship Game. (* denotes underlasssman)

Rolando McClain*/LB/Alabama: Texas offers a great challenge for McClain, who's known as a run stuffer. The Longhorns' short passing game gives him the opportunity to display skills in coverage and prove he's more than just a two-down defender. Grade: Mid-first round.

Terrence Cody/DT/Alabama: Cody's played reasonably well this season but has not taken his game to the next level as scouts had hoped. The Longhorns will keep the big lineman on his toes. The ability to stay in the game for every Tide defensive play is key for Cody. Mid-first round.

Earl Thomas */S/Texas: The talented Longhorn safety is gaining momentum in scouting circles. He's a terrific pass defender who patrols centerfield, making plays sideline to sideline. The ability to hold up against the run is the question scouts have about his game. Thomas can quell that criticism by helping to shut down Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram. Several in Texas feel there's a better than 50-50 chance Thomas opts for the draft in April. Late first round.

Sergio Kindle/DE-OLB/Texas: Kindle enters the game as one of the better pass rushers in the nation and moves towards the draft as a highly rated 3-4 linebacker prospect. Kindle must display discipline and stay with assignments against Alabama. Scouts want to see that he's more than just a player who rushes the passer. Late first round.

Kareem Jackson*/CB/Alabama: Jackson's game really took off this season; he's constantly shutting down the opposition. He'll have his work cut out for him against Texas as he deals with wideout Jordan Shipley most of the night. As with the underclassmen already mentioned, Jackson is expected to enter April's draft. Early second round.

Colt McCoy/QB/Texas: McCoy hopes to end his Longhorn career in style and go out a national champion, but NFL scouts have been slightly disappointed in his play this season. A strong game against the Crimson Tide can get the momentum moving back in his favor. The Tide has more NFL prospects on defense than any other team McCoy has faced this season. From Alabama's front line, which will try to disrupt his passing rhythm, to their opportunistic secondary and the game planning of Nick Saban, McCoy is sure to get a taste of a big-league opponent. Mid-second round.

Roddrick Muckelroy/LB/Texas: Muckelroy was forced to play middle linebacker after starter Jared Norton was lost to injury early in the season. He's done a solid job, but is playing out of position. Muckelroy's duties against Alabama include stuffing the run and shutting down tight end Colin Peek. In the NFL he could start in the proper scheme. Late second round.

Jordan Shipley/WR/Texas: Shipley bypassed the '09 draft after he was granted a sixth season of eligibility by the NCAA; he made the right choice. Shipley does not possess great foot speed, yet plays intelligent football. He's a natural pass catcher with the uncanny ability to find openings on the field. Alabama's talented secondary will be gunning for Shipley and this could be his toughest test of the season. He'll be a third receiver in the NFL. Late second round.

Colin Peek/TE/Alabama: Peek seems to improve with each passing week. Since transferring to Alabama, he's developed into a complete tight end. Besides blocking for the Heisman Trophy winner, Peek has made several timely catches at critical moments. He has a size advantage over Muckelroy and could cause problems for the Longhorns. Third round.

Javier Arenas/CB-RS/Alabama: Arenas entered the season with high grades from NFL scouting services and has played well enough to maintain a spot in the draft's top 90 selections. He's a solid cornerback who also displays the ability to alter the momentum of games with long punt returns. Third round.

Sam Acho*/DE/Texas: NFL scouts took notice of Acho after he stepped into the starting lineup this season. He led the Longhorns in sacks (9) and had 13 tackles for loss. Scouts are excited about his upside and his future. Third round.

Mike Johnson/G/Alabama: Johnson has been a leader on Alabama's offensive line the past two seasons and moves towards April as one of the higher rated guards in the draft. He's a mauler who combines strength, smarts and toughness to open holes for the running game. He also protects the passer well. Third/Fourth round.

Brandon Deaderick/DT/Alabama: Deaderick is a tough, interior defender who effectively handles several duties up front. He has an NFL-type body and offers potential at tackle or as a two-gap end. Deaderick was slowed by injury early in the season, which occurred off the field, then came on strong late in the year. Against Texas he must display the ability to pressure McCoy, something that's not been his forte'. Fourth round.

Lamarr Houston/DT/Texas: He has developed into a solid player this season and is making a big move up draft boards. Graded as a free prospect at the start of the season, the 6-1, 280-pound senior leads the team in tackles for loss (20), leads all Longhorn linemen in tackles (58) and is second in quarterback hurries (28). His size turns away some teams, but Houston has still moved into the draft's middle rounds. Fourth round.

Adam Ulatoski/T/Texas: The left tackle is large, fundamentally sound but limited athletically. He doesn't have the footwork or agility to handle blindside duties in the NFL. But his body type and run blocking skills make many believe Ulatoski will succeed at right tackle. Fifth round.

costanza2k1
01-07-2010, 05:05 PM
Thanks for the heads up Oviedo...gives non College football fans like me something to look out for.

BURGH86STEEL
01-07-2010, 05:05 PM
I just want the final college game to live up to the hype...

I think Alabama wins big.

Shoe
01-07-2010, 09:25 PM
I'll keep an eye on the big-boneded one. :wink:
I've said it before, I'll say again: I don't like spending a #1 on him. He is a two-down player (1), and think about it (2): he's certainly a step down from Hampton, in all areas of football. He doesn't even have his old man strength yet. (IMO, he will be a much better acquisition when he is 27,28,29 if he can hang around that long). He is Grady Jackson without the old man strength, Casey Hampton or Pat Williams or Jamal Williams without the old man strength. And he won't be even on the field during passing downs.

Edit (after first series): Mount Fata$s only comes in on obvious short-yardage situations. Even in 1st & 10, I didn't see him on the field. I grant that he is a real difference maker in short-yardage, but c'mon... first round on a specialist?

Oviedo
01-08-2010, 08:48 AM
I'll keep an eye on the big-boneded one. :wink:
I've said it before, I'll say again: I don't like spending a #1 on him. He is a two-down player (1), and think about it (2): he's certainly a step down from Hampton, in all areas of football. He doesn't even have his old man strength yet. (IMO, he will be a much better acquisition when he is 27,28,29 if he can hang around that long). He is Grady Jackson without the old man strength, Casey Hampton or Pat Williams or Jamal Williams without the old man strength. And he won't be even on the field during passing downs.

Edit (after first series): Mount Fata$s only comes in on obvious short-yardage situations. Even in 1st & 10, I didn't see him on the field. I grant that he is a real difference maker in short-yardage, but c'mon... first round on a specialist?

In my opinion, Cody will be a big dropper on draft day. He showed nothing last night. I wouldn't touch him. As I said on other posts. Do some rsearch on Torrel Troup, NT out of Central Florida. Hopefully the time the defensive staff spent at UCF looking at Joe Burnett will give them some contacts to look at this kid as a mid round selection.

Players I did like:

Ro McClain, MLB--guy is this year's Patrick Willis and I would not hesitate to trade up to get him as Farrior's replacement

Javier Arenas, CB--seems like a good CB but need to see more since he was exploiting a freshman QB. We know he can at least catch the ball. Not sure of his size. Could be a deshea Townsend clone.

Jordan Shipley, WR--would seem to be a perfect possession receiver type with a little burst. Very much like Hine Ward. Won't blow you away but just sure and steady.

steelblood
01-08-2010, 09:04 AM
Mike Johnson is an awesome talent. He really dominated against Florida. I can't see us drafting a G early. But, if we did, I'd want him and not that Iupati dude that is rated higher.

Granted I only watched Iupati once, but that guy is a bulldozer. Best run blocking I've seen in college this season...

I've seen Iupati once as well. He is very impressive. However, he doesn't go up against great talent very often. Mike Johnson, on the other hand, has dominated great talent. Last night I saw him drive Houston 7 yards down the line and then truck him into the ground. He opened up some gaping holes in the first half before Texas totally sold out to stop the run. But, the main reason I prefer Johnson is that he is far more athletic than Iupati. Johnson is capable of striking multiple targets on the same play because he is so athletic and shows a great ability to keep his balance and reload. Johnson also has the great feet to become a very good pass protector. I'm not so sure about Iupati. I don't see that potential. And, as long as Arians is here, we need great pass protectors, even at G.

Oviedo
01-08-2010, 09:54 AM
Mike Johnson is an awesome talent. He really dominated against Florida. I can't see us drafting a G early. But, if we did, I'd want him and not that Iupati dude that is rated higher.

Granted I only watched Iupati once, but that guy is a bulldozer. Best run blocking I've seen in college this season...

I've seen Iupati once as well. He is very impressive. However, he doesn't go up against great talent very often. Mike Johnson, on the other hand, has dominated great talent. Last night I saw him drive Houston 7 yards down the line and then truck him into the ground. He opened up some gaping holes in the first half before Texas totally sold out to stop the run. But, the main reason I prefer Johnson is that he is far more athletic than Iupati. Johnson is capable of striking multiple targets on the same play because he is so athletic and shows a great ability to keep his balance and reload. Johnson also has the great feet to become a very good pass protector. I'm not so sure about Iupati. I don't see that potential. And, as long as Arians is here, we need great pass protectors, even at G.

I really liked what I saw of Johnson last night too. I guess the draft will give us some insights in what directives Tomlin gave Arians. While I'd like to see us go defense Rounds 1-3, if we slip an OL in one of those rounds there may be a renewed emphasis on the run.

pfelix73
01-08-2010, 10:33 AM
"Ro McClain, MLB--guy is this year's Patrick Willis and I would not hesitate to trade up to get him as Farrior's replacement"

This guy, IMO, is going to be even better than Patrick Willis. He is very worthy of going up and taking him. He's a leader and one heck of an athlete. He'd be perfect on the Steelers.


Is he coming out this year though? I saw somewhere he will be in next year's draft.

:tt1

steelblood
01-08-2010, 11:29 AM
"Ro McClain, MLB--guy is this year's Patrick Willis and I would not hesitate to trade up to get him as Farrior's replacement"

This guy, IMO, is going to be even better than Patrick Willis. He is very worthy of going up and taking him. He's a leader and one heck of an athlete. He'd be perfect on the Steelers.


Is he coming out this year though? I saw somewhere he will be in next year's draft.

:tt1

He's amazing. I'm not sure he is quite on Willis' level, but he is darn close. If he declares, I believe he'll be a top 10 pick. I think we'll have a better shot at Spikes. I think he is a similar talent. Unfortunately, he doesn't have McClain's instincts, lunch pail attitude, or maturity.

Tomlinator
01-08-2010, 12:01 PM
"Ro McClain, MLB--guy is this year's Patrick Willis and I would not hesitate to trade up to get him as Farrior's replacement"

This guy, IMO, is going to be even better than Patrick Willis. He is very worthy of going up and taking him. He's a leader and one heck of an athlete. He'd be perfect on the Steelers.


Is he coming out this year though? I saw somewhere he will be in next year's draft.

:tt1

He's amazing. I'm not sure he is quite on Willis' level, but he is darn close. If he declares, I believe he'll be a top 10 pick. I think we'll have a better shot at Spikes. I think he is a similar talent. Unfortunately, he doesn't have McClain's instincts, lunch pail attitude, or maturity.

Count me in the McClain camp. Of course, he'd sit the pine for 1-2 years before we see him on the field, like all our rookies seem to do.

feltdizz
01-08-2010, 01:35 PM
Not sure about McClain being better than Willis... I doubt that.

The BCS game was bull.... I wish McCoy played so we could see how good the Alabama D really was. They were on their heels early.

Once again the BCS title game blew chunks.

NJ-STEELER
01-08-2010, 01:54 PM
arenas also seems to be quite the return guy.

maybe saving a roster space

Jom112
01-08-2010, 03:02 PM
Mike Johnson is an awesome talent. He really dominated against Florida. I can't see us drafting a G early. But, if we did, I'd want him and not that Iupati dude that is rated higher.

Granted I only watched Iupati once, but that guy is a bulldozer. Best run blocking I've seen in college this season...

I've seen Iupati once as well. He is very impressive. However, he doesn't go up against great talent very often. Mike Johnson, on the other hand, has dominated great talent. Last night I saw him drive Houston 7 yards down the line and then truck him into the ground. He opened up some gaping holes in the first half before Texas totally sold out to stop the run. But, the main reason I prefer Johnson is that he is far more athletic than Iupati. Johnson is capable of striking multiple targets on the same play because he is so athletic and shows a great ability to keep his balance and reload. Johnson also has the great feet to become a very good pass protector. I'm not so sure about Iupati. I don't see that potential. And, as long as Arians is here, we need great pass protectors, even at G.

These are the kind of situations where the Combine comes in handy.

Iupati is throwing around people but they are mainly 2nd tier talent guys. If Iupati throws up a weak bench press, then I think he drops big time. But if he's near the top, as I expect him to be, it should help him be selected in the first 2 rounds...

steelblood
01-08-2010, 03:17 PM
Mike Johnson is an awesome talent. He really dominated against Florida. I can't see us drafting a G early. But, if we did, I'd want him and not that Iupati dude that is rated higher.

Granted I only watched Iupati once, but that guy is a bulldozer. Best run blocking I've seen in college this season...

I've seen Iupati once as well. He is very impressive. However, he doesn't go up against great talent very often. Mike Johnson, on the other hand, has dominated great talent. Last night I saw him drive Houston 7 yards down the line and then truck him into the ground. He opened up some gaping holes in the first half before Texas totally sold out to stop the run. But, the main reason I prefer Johnson is that he is far more athletic than Iupati. Johnson is capable of striking multiple targets on the same play because he is so athletic and shows a great ability to keep his balance and reload. Johnson also has the great feet to become a very good pass protector. I'm not so sure about Iupati. I don't see that potential. And, as long as Arians is here, we need great pass protectors, even at G.

These are the kind of situations where the Combine comes in handy.

Iupati is throwing around people but they are mainly 2nd tier talent guys. If Iupati throws up a weak bench press, then I think he drops big time. But if he's near the top, as I expect him to be, it should help him be selected in the first 2 rounds...

I'm pretty confident he'll put up good strength numbers. I'd like to see him in an all-star game against better talent. I think that would give us a better idea of his skill set.

RuthlessBurgher
01-08-2010, 04:32 PM
:Agree

Games like the Senior Bowl (and the practices in Mobile during the week) are more important for draft evaluation purposes than a meat market like the combine.

Shoe
01-08-2010, 06:05 PM
arenas also seems to be quite the return guy.

maybe saving a roster space

I heard Mel Kiper talking him up as a 3-4th round pick. If that's the case, I'd be very happy to see him in black-n-gold. (According to Mel) the guy is very instinctive, savvy, and as know--he can do some stuff with the ball in his hands. His negatives are related to deep speed, but you can live with that in the zone schemes that we run.

Steel Life
01-08-2010, 07:33 PM
I like McClain, but prefer Weatherspoon out of Missouri. McClain could end up a 2-down player & we don't need that.

By the way...I love Shipley's game - it looks like Hines.

NJ-STEELER
01-08-2010, 08:06 PM
I like McClain, but prefer Weatherspoon out of Missouri. McClain could end up a 2-down player & we don't need that.
Hines.

i haven't seem him play a whole lot, but it seems he can get to the QB pretty well.

that would be a good reason to keep him on the field on 3rd down

grotonsteel
01-09-2010, 11:38 AM
Mt Cody disappointed me. I would not draft him at 18. I think he falls in this draft.

Ro McClain is some player. I would not mind Steelers drafting him at #18.

pfelix73
01-09-2010, 07:59 PM
I doubt he'd be there at 18, unless something drastic happens....

Oviedo
01-10-2010, 07:16 PM
I doubt he'd be there at 18, unless something drastic happens....

IMO McClain will without a doubt be a Top 10 pick. The MLB that we will have a legit shot to get is Brandon Spikes from Florida. Except for McClain it appears that most of the Inside LBs in this draft are in the 230lb to 240lb range. That may be light and I think what we are seeing is defenses reacting to the spread offenses in college by having lighter and faster LBs who can cover. Again as I have pointed out as spread offenses proliferate in college and defenses respond the type of player we look for in the 3-4 may not be there and may take longer with on going conversions projects.

Listed below are the Top 10 senior ILBs. Only Spikes carries a Round 1 grade right now. Guess what most of these players scouting reports say "needs to improve stoutness against the run."

1. Brandon Spikes, Florida, 6-3, 258, 4.75
2. Daryl Washington, Texas Christian, 6-3, 234, 4.6
3. Sean Lee, Penn State, 6-2, 236, 4.75
4. Pat Angerer, Iowa, 6-1, 235, 4.50
5. Jamar Chaney, Mississippi State, 6-1, 240, 4.60
6. Micah Johnson, Kentucky, 6-2, 258, 4.85
7. Mike McLaughlin, Boston College, 6-0, 252, 4.80
8. Ryan D'Imperio, Rutgers, 6-3, 245, 4.80
9. Joe Pawelek, Baylor, 6-2, 240, 4.85
10. Jacob Cutrera, Louisiana State, 6-4, 236, 4.85

NJ-STEELER
01-10-2010, 07:55 PM
IIRC levon kirkland was listed as 6 fott 230lbs coming out of college.


just saying