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SteelTorch
12-27-2009, 11:25 PM
Circumstances being as they are, there's a chance we may not make it into the playoffs even if we win against Miami. :( Even if we do, I'm making this thread since this season has been about as disappointing as last year's season was fulfilling. Feel free to add your own insights.

My top reason:

MISTAKES

Sure we had a bad secondary and unreliable offense, but I have lost count of the sheer number of missed opportunities this season. Frankly put, we either played like we didn't know what to do, or we failed to capitalize on great opportunities that could have made the difference this season. Dropped passes, dropped interceptions, returns for TD's, and the like. Mistakes cost us games against Cinci, Cleveland, Oakland, and Kansas City. Even with injuries to Troy and Aaron Smith, we could have found a way to make this a solid season. We didn't.

This year, we saw a team that looked undisciplined, uncoordinated, and outcoached. The blame goes to everyone, players and staff, for this. Tomlin had better find a way to screw this team's head on straight.

Runners-up include the following, of course.

2. Bad secondary
3. Bad OC (PLEEEEEEASE FIRE BRUCE ARIANS!!!)
4. Bad special teams.
5. Aging defense

All in all, this season left a sour feeling in my stomach. It's not so much the fact that we lost a lot, but the fact that we could have easily won so much more. :? But, as always, I still have faith in the team and know we'll bounce back. :tt2

SanAntonioSteelerFan
12-27-2009, 11:35 PM
:Agree

I can only guess, but it seems like there was a malaise across the team for much of the year. "Bad team, we'll beat 'em without having to concentrate or focus ...".

I put a lot of that at the head coach's door. Having said that, ours is very young and inexperienced, and I don't think it's unexpected that he wouldn't have the skill set yet to fix that kind of situation. Lots of much more experienced coaches haven't been able to turn things like this around.

Maybe we'll make it in this year. If not, we've got a lot of challenges for next year, not the least of which some of our guys are getting too old.

In the big picture, we'll always be fine, because these are THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS!!!!

BATMAN
12-27-2009, 11:40 PM
I truly believed and I feel the Rooneys believed also, this team was set to make another Super Bowl appearance. Not only did I feel this way this season, I felt this way the start of last season. With the talent on our team, Tomlin now being in his third season, I felt it would all come together.
Last year with it being Tomlins second season and winning a Super Bowl lead me to believe Tomlin was ahead of schedule.

Rooneys giving Harrison his coin, retaining Farrior, keeping the team in pretty much of its same personal package, we should have been in the playoffs.

Tomlin has disappointed me with his lack of addressing obvious problems. He talked big, promised changes were coming and yet, he did little to nothing. The guy was not prepared to handle the role of Super Bowl champs.

Mistakes: He should have never retained Arians.

Sugar
12-28-2009, 12:28 AM
The biggest thing that I see is the mistakes on ST. Yeah the O and D had their various problems, but the ST is what killed us, IMO.

Did the O have malaise at times? Sure, but we still finished with two 1K receivers and a 1K RB (who didn't even start the whole year). We have a QB w/ 4K yards passing as well. The D struggled late in games, but overall they were good enough to be a top 10 in the league.

Missing FG's, fumbling returns for TD's, allowing huge returns and returns for TD's all contributed directly for at least four losses this year. It's sad when you lose to teams that can't compete with your O or D but they beat you because they get the big returns. Giving up points when your D isn't even on the field is simply frustrating.

While this isn't the worst season in my memory (not by far), it is easily the most dissapointing. We had the opportunity and talent to shine with the greats this year and completely crapped the bed. :oops:

papillon
12-28-2009, 12:37 AM
Situational football

3rd and short
Red Zone offense
3rd down defense
Special Teams (this is all situational to me)

Pappy

NorthCoast
12-28-2009, 10:19 AM
As I watched the Philly-Denver game last night I could only wish we had CBs like Philly. I was thinking about how many of Orton's wounded ducks would have been completions against our secondary. When your CBs have NO interceptions in a season something is very amiss.

RussBII
12-28-2009, 10:52 AM
As I watched the Philly-Denver game last night I could only wish we had CBs like Philly. I was thinking about how many of Orton's wounded ducks would have been completions against our secondary. When your CBs have NO interceptions in a season something is very amiss.


It's not just the CBs. I still contend that Ike's had a decent year.

The weaknesses in the secondary (Carter / Gay) are REALLY weak. Then everyone else begins to look like hell. Ike not catching the ball is not a new thing. Every other WR on the field being wide open is a new thing.

VirgilBosett
12-28-2009, 11:14 AM
I can't remember a season with so many attempted ARM TACKLES, and poor secondary coverage. BS attitude and experience from the D took this team very far last year. Ike Taylor, Carter, Gay, Mundy, and even Clark and Farrior at times look like they want to run up to ball carriers, or beside them, and watch someone else make the tackle. They seem to lack intensity and desire. Secondary coverage is even worse. I think the D dealt with the loss of Arron Smith better this time than the last. The same could not be said for Polamalu's absence. This should be Carter's, and Townsend's last season, and Taylor needs to be the number two CB at best.

ST's are horrible.

The offense has a couple faults, but is mostly quit good. I would love to see them improve in a couple areas, but those areas don't get addressed from year to year, and probably won't again this offseason...... as long as Arians is retained.

If they back into the playoffs it will be darn lucky. They play like a team that wants to go home early, and the last two wins are hardly anything to be excited about.....although I am a little pumped because it sure as heck beats watching them lose.

I won't turn in my tickets, and the ink won't run on my tattoo. In almost 40 years as a Steeler fan I've obviously seen worse, but this season reeks of failure and dissapointment.

Will the shortcommings be dealt with by Tomlin this offseason, or will we hear a collection of his famous & favorite cliche's.

Ghost
12-28-2009, 11:44 AM
The inability to hold a lead in the 4th quarter killed the Steelers this year. Take just 2 of the games they had leads in (4th and 10 against Cincy was a back breaker) and the Steelers are cruising into the playoffs.

Not the biggest mistake per se, but the Cleveland game hurt the most. That game was a disgrace and with everything on the line; the players looked as if they wanted to be anywhere else in the world other than a football field. Mentally checked out against a terrible, hated division rival. Sickening.

feltdizz
12-28-2009, 12:05 PM
Last game was another 60 minutes of ugly and the only reason we won was because Mason did a SWEEEED.

The LB's looked better but the DB's were terrible again and can't catch a thing.. The analyst kept saying they had great position on Heap yet they were behind Heap and boxed out easily...

However, the worst part about out team is the D's lack of stopping teams after we score TD's. It seems like all season the D has given up 7 right after we get 7. We haven't been able to keep a double digit lead for more then 1 possession all season.

and those damn 3rd down's on both sides of the ball...

Why do we go empty? It's an automatic sack 85% of the time.

Oviedo
12-28-2009, 12:55 PM
Again another thread in which St Le Beau is not mentioned as a culprit in this mediocre season. IMO he has primary responsibility for the defensive collapse. He is the single individual with the responsibility for making the defense ready to do its job. It is his only responsibility.

frankthetank1
12-28-2009, 01:02 PM
Again another thread in which St Le Beau is not mentioned as a culprit in this mediocre season. IMO he has primary responsibility for the defensive collapse. He is the single individual with the responsibility for making the defense ready to do its job. It is his only responsibility.

i agree lebeau hardly ever gets the blame where most other DC's would get bashed, but the personel is the same as last season. the scheme is the same from last season. the result is completely different. the reason they have been bad on defensive is age up front and lack of talent in the secondary. you throw in injuries to smith and troy two of the best we have on defense and that is a recipe for a down season. the pass rush was lights out last season. that and a healthy troy makes the secondary very good. no pass rush and no troy makes the secondary awful

SteelTorch
12-28-2009, 01:08 PM
Situational football

3rd and short
Red Zone offense
3rd down defense
Special Teams (this is all situational to me)

Pappy
Most of that boils down to mistakes, pappy. :P

RussBII
12-28-2009, 01:11 PM
Again another thread in which St Le Beau is not mentioned as a culprit in this mediocre season. IMO he has primary responsibility for the defensive collapse. He is the single individual with the responsibility for making the defense ready to do its job. It is his only responsibility.

i agree lebeau hardly ever gets the blame where most other DC's would get bashed, but the personel is the same as last season. the scheme is the same from last season. the result is completely different. the reason they have been bad on defensive is age up front and lack of talent in the secondary. you throw in injuries to smith and troy two of the best we have on defense and that is a recipe for a down season. the pass rush was lights out last season. that and a healthy troy makes the secondary very good. no pass rush and no troy makes the secondary awful

I think if you phrase the injury thing differently it takes on a different light.

Of the three units on defense (Secondary, LBs, DLine), two of them were missing their best player.

That's pretty significant. I'm not saying this is the only reason, but it has to be considered as a factor.

Toss in the fact that they never put a team away and let all manner of chumps hang around until the end....

Oh, and was it me, or was the defense on the field a LOT this year. The passing offense does not protect the defense very well.

SteelTorch
12-28-2009, 01:22 PM
Again another thread in which St Le Beau is not mentioned as a culprit in this mediocre season. IMO he has primary responsibility for the defensive collapse. He is the single individual with the responsibility for making the defense ready to do its job. It is his only responsibility.

i agree lebeau hardly ever gets the blame where most other DC's would get bashed, but the personel is the same as last season. the scheme is the same from last season. the result is completely different. the reason they have been bad on defensive is age up front and lack of talent in the secondary. you throw in injuries to smith and troy two of the best we have on defense and that is a recipe for a down season. the pass rush was lights out last season. that and a healthy troy makes the secondary very good. no pass rush and no troy makes the secondary awful

I think if you phrase the injury thing differently it takes on a different light.

Of the three units on defense (Secondary, LBs, DLine), two of them were missing their best player.

That's pretty significant. I'm not saying this is the only reason, but it has to be considered as a factor.

Toss in the fact that they never put a team away and let all manner of chumps hang around until the end....

Oh, and was it me, or was the defense on the field a LOT this year. The passing offense does not protect the defense very well.
Well, like it or not, this is a passing league these days, and defenses have to be able to work with it. Secondly, our average time of possession is actually slightly better than it was last year. If the defense is doing worse because of possession time, than it's because it's either too old or out of shape.

neclams
12-28-2009, 01:22 PM
I will go with the old cliche, they played to the level of competition.

We looked GREAT against the Vikings, Packers (offense only) and the Bengals (despite the loss).....we may not have played great...but we fought til the end. We played Baltimore tough in both games, including the Dixon game....had a chance until the INT.

As good as we looked in those games and being compeititive....we looked equally as HORRID against the weaker teams......Cleveland, Oakland, Chiefs and Detroit. Yeah we beat Detroit, but CULPEPPER had them in position to tie the game with a TD and a 2-point conversion. For those that were not there, the LIONS mascot stomped on a terrible towel on the jumbo-tron.....next 3 plays were sacks!

Anyways, win or lose, they played close football against the good teams....and pee-wee football against teams that would have a hard time beating some teams replacements!

TROY was probably a factor.....but I cannot blame him. The 11 on the field are the Pittsburgh Steelers!

papillon
12-28-2009, 02:26 PM
Situational football

3rd and short
Red Zone offense
3rd down defense
Special Teams (this is all situational to me)

Pappy
Most of that boils down to mistakes, pappy. :P

The mistakes were limited during normal down and distances for the most part. Once the offense needed to make a play, or the defense needed to make a play or the STs needed to make a play they made mistakes. Those are specific situations in which the Steelers failed over and over again this year, whether it be mistakes, lack of focus or poor decisions

Too many drives stopped on 3rd and 3 or less.
Too many FGs once inside the 20.
Too many drive extended big plays given up on 3rd down. (They were able to get teams into 3rd and 8 or greater, but, couldn't make the final play to close out the drive)
Too many special teams gaffs to even reiterate in the space allotted by the board software.

Pappy

feltdizz
12-28-2009, 04:38 PM
like someone just said... when we needed a defensive play we never got it until yesterday...
when we need a ST's coverage late in games they never make the stop.
Even when we get help with flags and the other team starts inside their 10 yard line we let them march.

This D is pathetic... and Mendenhall... love him to death and drops happen but we needed that early TD..

it's the little things that we just can't get done this year.

Steel Life
12-28-2009, 07:35 PM
The little things that went right for us last year...missed kicks (1 loss), ST giving up TDs (1-2 losses), missed interceptions (1 loss), dropped passes (1-2 losses). Sometimes the ball doesn't bounce your way, though a stouter defense would go a long way curing a lot of ills - as would Troy & Aaron being healthy.

BURGH86STEEL
12-28-2009, 07:59 PM
Defenses inability to make stops late in games.