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stlrz d
12-24-2009, 12:09 AM
Week 1: Pit - 13, Tenn - 10. ToP: Pit - 36:11, Tenn - 28:21. Pass att – 43, Run att – 23

Week 2: Pit - 14, Chi - 17. ToP: Pit - 30:26, Chi - 29:34. Pass att – 35, Run att – 22

Week 3: Pit - 20, Cin - 23. ToP: Pit - 34:42, Cin - 25:18. Pass att – 31, Run att – 28

Week 4: Pit - 38, SD - 35. ToP: Pit - 40:20, SD - 19:40. Pass att – 33, Run att – 36

Week 5: Pit - 28, Det - 20. ToP: Pit - 27:25, Det - 32:35. Pass att – 30, Run att – 21

Week 6: Pit - 27, Cle - 14. ToP: Pit - 36:46, Cle - 23:14. Pass att – 35, Run att – 36

Week 7: Pit - 27, Min - 17. ToP: Pit - 23:02, Min - 36:58. Pass att – 26, Run att – 19

Week 9: Pit - 28, Den - 10. ToP: Pit - 33:03, Den - 26:57. Pass att – 29, Run att – 29

Week 10: Pit - 12, Cin - 18. ToP: Pit - 30:52, Cin - 29:08. Pass att – 40, Run att – 18

Week 11: Pit - 24, KC - 27. ToP: Pit - 44:07, KC - 22:25. Pass att – 44, Run att – 31

Week 12: Pit - 17, Bal - 20. ToP: Pit - 35:56, Bal - 32:22. Pass att – 26, Run att – 38

Week 13: Pit - 24, Oak - 27. ToP: Pit - 27:11, Oak - 32:49. Pass att – 24, Run att – 27

Week 14: Pit - 6, Cle - 13. ToP: Pit - 30:45, Cle - 29:15. Pass att – 32, Run att – 22

Week 15: Pit - 37, GB - 36. ToP: Pit - 35:22, GB - 24:38. Pass att – 46, Run att – 19

Make what you will of the numbers...I got a headache from doing this. Anyway, I was prompted to do this by all the talk of pass/run, ToP, how they relate to one another, to wins and losses, etc.... Because my opinion is that too much emphasis is put on the numbers. What actually happens on the field of play is what matters. Numbers never tell the whole story. Jason Whitlock said that football, more than any other sport, is a game to be judged by the eyeballs and not the numbers. I couldn't agree with him more.

feltdizz
12-24-2009, 01:35 AM
I hate Jason whitlock but I agree... why the stats are posted?

Flasteel
12-24-2009, 01:38 AM
Week 1: Pit - 13, Tenn - 10. ToP: Pit - 36:11, Tenn - 28:21. Pass att – 43, Run att – 23

Week 2: Pit - 14, Chi - 17. ToP: Pit - 30:26, Chi - 29:34. Pass att – 35, Run att – 22

Week 3: Pit - 20, Cin - 23. ToP: Pit - 34:42, Cin - 25:18. Pass att – 31, Run att – 28

Week 4: Pit - 38, SD - 35. ToP: Pit - 40:20, SD - 19:40. Pass att – 33, Run att – 36

Week 5: Pit - 28, Det - 20. ToP: Pit - 27:25, Det - 32:35. Pass att – 30, Run att – 21

Week 6: Pit - 27, Cle - 14. ToP: Pit - 36:46, Cle - 23:14. Pass att – 35, Run att – 36

Week 7: Pit - 27, Min - 17. ToP: Pit - 23:02, Min - 36:58. Pass att – 26, Run att – 19

Week 9: Pit - 28, Den - 10. ToP: Pit - 33:03, Den - 26:57. Pass att – 29, Run att – 29

Week 10: Pit - 12, Cin - 18. ToP: Pit - 30:52, Cin - 29:08. Pass att – 40, Run att – 18

Week 11: Pit - 24, KC - 27. ToP: Pit - 44:07, KC - 22:25. Pass att – 44, Run att – 31

Week 12: Pit - 17, Bal - 20. ToP: Pit - 35:56, Bal - 32:22. Pass att – 26, Run att – 38

Week 13: Pit - 24, Oak - 27. ToP: Pit - 27:11, Oak - 32:49. Pass att – 24, Run att – 27

Week 14: Pit - 6, Cle - 13. ToP: Pit - 30:45, Cle - 29:15. Pass att – 32, Run att – 22

Week 15: Pit - 37, GB - 36. ToP: Pit - 35:22, GB - 24:38. Pass att – 46, Run att – 19

Make what you will of the numbers...I got a headache from doing this. Anyway, I was prompted to do this by all the talk of pass/run, ToP, how they relate to one another, to wins and losses, etc.... Because my opinion is that too much emphasis is put on the numbers. What actually happens on the field of play is what matters. Numbers never tell the whole story. Jason Whitlock said that football, more than any other sport, is a game to be judged by the eyeballs and not the numbers. I couldn't agree with him more.

Sorry D, but the numbers do tell the story...every single time. You just have to look at all of the numbers and not select stats. You could even go back to that Houston game where Tommy Maddox air-mailed 3 pick-sixes and we dominated them in every conceivable stat. Just look at the turnovers and the points scored off of them.

Some stats have higher correlations to winning percentages, but it's a fallacy to think that you can look at any of them and determine a winner.

sd steel
12-24-2009, 01:47 AM
I did my best to find some correlation between TOP and runs to passes, just to get under your skin. :lol:

But you are right, it depends on how the game plays out and who gets the bounces. We got them last year, and we aren't getting them this year.

stlrz d
12-24-2009, 09:38 AM
I did my best to find some correlation between TOP and runs to passes, just to get under your skin. :lol:

But you are right, it depends on how the game plays out and who gets the bounces. We got them last year, and we aren't getting them this year.

And that was my whole point. People like to point to one or two numbers and say, "This is why X happened." or, "This is why Y happened". But that's not how it works.

And FLA, you actually helped make my point. :D