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feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 04:35 AM
this team needs a shakeup. secondary blows/running game is mediocre
to many egos i think. I think Tomlin is a good assistant but not a leader.

costanza2k1
12-11-2009, 04:50 AM
He's a great leader but he may not be a good manager...there is a difference. Time will tell as to how good he is with this offseason. Anyone remember the lame duck seasons Cowher put together...if he gets a chance so does Tomlin.

feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 04:56 AM
Cowher at least had some balls. Personaly i think the Rooneys just hired Tomlin cause he's black and thats my opinion. What was the deciding factor?

feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 05:14 AM
Yeah you can say Cowher sucked
but he never had a franchise QB until the end and then won a SB.
We had ODonell and he at least got them to championships
Imagine if Ben was the QB.

eniparadoxgma
12-11-2009, 06:27 AM
Cowher at least had some balls. Personaly i think the Rooneys just hired Tomlin cause he's black and thats my opinion. What was the deciding factor?

Tomlin began his career with a 15–7 record in regular season play—as did his predecessor Cowher and all-time win-leader Don Shula. Tomlin set a Steelers record for most wins, after winning 22 games in his first two seasons as head coach; in addition he became the first Steelers coach to win division titles in his first two seasons.

When the Steelers defeated the Baltimore Ravens in the 2008 AFC Championship Game, Mike Tomlin became the youngest NFL Head Coach to lead his team to a Super Bowl.

Yeah, he's done horrible in his first three seasons. I guess the Steelers got pretty lucky that the guy they hired because of his race ended up not sucking, right?

Learn to logic, bro.

Herewegosteelers!
12-11-2009, 08:11 AM
Yeah you can say Cowher sucked
but he never had a franchise QB until the end and then won a SB.
We had ODonell and he at least got them to championships
Imagine if Ben was the QB.
:Agree

BURGH86STEEL
12-11-2009, 08:33 AM
Disappointment clouds judgement.

feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 08:34 AM
Tomlin inherited a good team my friend.
How would he do withe Jets -Mr Expand---

frankthetank1
12-11-2009, 08:35 AM
Yeah you can say Cowher sucked
but he never had a franchise QB until the end and then won a SB.
We had ODonell and he at least got them to championships
Imagine if Ben was the QB.

if cowher got his way we still wouldnt have a franchise qb

SteelBucks
12-11-2009, 08:44 AM
Yeah you can say Cowher sucked
but he never had a franchise QB until the end and then won a SB.
We had ODonell and he at least got them to championships
Imagine if Ben was the QB.

if cowher got his way we still wouldnt have a franchise qb

Thank God Dan Rooney overruled Cowher on draft day.

eniparadoxgma
12-11-2009, 08:44 AM
Tomlin inherited a good team my friend.
How would he do withe Jets -Mr Expand---

So then coaches don't really do anything then? Since the "good team" won the SB and he must not have had anything to do with it, right? By that logic, he also has nothing to do with the implosion this year?

Is that the case? Or are you really trying to throw out this "He had nothing to do with the team last year and deserves no credit but has everything to do with the team this year and deserves all the blame" line of thinking? I'm assuming you know the old saying about having cake and eating it.

So you are honestly trying to say that even though the Steelers FO has one of the best track records in the entire league with coaches that they hired this coach because of his race...and he just happened to take the Steelers to the SB and win it in his second year because of...everyone else but him... You realizing the entire time that this is the same basic team as last year, right?

You really don't see anything wrong with this?

Captain Lemming
12-11-2009, 08:45 AM
Yeah you can say Cowher sucked
but he never had a franchise QB until the end and then won a SB.
We had ODonell and he at least got them to championships
Imagine if Ben was the QB.
Ben is better than NOD no question. However, let's imagine how Ben would fare in NOD's place.

Ben was far worse in his first SB with Cowher than NOD. Interceptions did us in against Dallas. Ben is FAR more interception prone than NOD.

Ben has had the good fortune of NOT playing a dynasty quality team in the SB.

Had Ben been playing against THOSE Cowboys he would fair worse than NOD.

eniparadoxgma
12-11-2009, 08:46 AM
Disappointment clouds judgement.

:Agree

Oviedo
12-11-2009, 08:59 AM
Disappointment clouds judgement.

Based on some of the posts that now appear it also kills brain cells by the millions.

"That which does not kill you makes you stronger"

Captain Lemming
12-11-2009, 09:03 AM
Tomlin inherited a good team my friend.
How would he do withe Jets -Mr Expand---

So then coaches don't really do anything then? Since the "good team" won the SB and he must not have had anything to do with it, right? By that logic, he also has nothing to do with the implosion this year?

Is that the case? Or are you really trying to throw out this "He had nothing to do with the team last year and deserves no credit but has everything to do with the team this year and deserves all the blame" line of thinking? I'm assuming you know the old saying about having cake and eating it.

So you are honestly trying to say that even though the Steelers FO has one of the best track records in the entire league with coaches that they hired this coach because of his race...and he just happened to take the Steelers to the SB and win it in his second year because of...everyone else but him... You realizing the entire time that this is the same basic team as last year, right?

You really don't see anything wrong with this?

:Agree

Give BOTH credit for success AND blame for failure where it belongs.
Dont just assign blame. That is just as one sided as those who are criticized.

By this standard Tomlin has had the best start two season start to his career we have ever seen. A HISTORICALLY good start.
A GREAT job as a coach winning a championship with a HORRID oline, and pathetic run game. Who has ever done that, never mind in year 2.

This year has been a horrible coaching job. Pathetic.

NOBODY, is saying he doesnt deserve criticizm, but based on his start it is foolish to dismiss him as a bad coach already.

feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 12:16 PM
Nothings clouding my judgement
i see what what i see
what millions see
A LAME DUCK COACHING JOB... and alot of talk ulnleash hell? splash plays? WTF is that?
is this the same STEELERS?
get off the crackpipe man it starts with the head coach.
you know like the Emperor???????????

BradshawsHairdresser
12-11-2009, 12:33 PM
Yeah you can say Cowher sucked
but he never had a franchise QB until the end and then won a SB.
We had ODonell and he at least got them to championships
Imagine if Ben was the QB.
Ben is better than NOD no question. However, let's imagine how Ben would fare in NOD's place.

Ben was far worse in his first SB with Cowher than NOD. Interceptions did us in against Dallas. Ben is FAR more interception prone than NOD.

Ben has had the good fortune of NOT playing a dynasty quality team in the SB.

Had Ben been playing against THOSE Cowboys he would fair worse than NOD.

I can't defend every aspect of Ben's play or decision-making, but your statement is simply ridiculous. There are a LOT of plays NOD couldn't make that Ben can. Can you see NOD leading the 2008 Steelers down the field for a winning score in the closing minute of the Super Bowl, as Ben did? No way. The Steelers likely don't beat the Cardinals in SB 43 if NOD is the QB. I'm not saying that the 95 Steelers would have been a lock to beat the Cowboys with Ben, but to say he would fare WORSE than O'Dummell is just dumb.

feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 12:35 PM
Ditto !!

feltdizz
12-11-2009, 12:39 PM
Cowher quit or had a team that quit a year after the SB..

Maybe the same "Cowher players" quit after another SB win..

regardless it is ignorant to demand a coaching change a year after a SB win.
If we go 1-15 next year then fire Tomlin...

Shanahan's teams were worse on D than ours his last 2 years in Denver...
I think fans tend to forget about the bad seasons a "good coach" on another team has.

RuthlessBurgher
12-11-2009, 01:13 PM
Nothings clouding my judgement
i see what what i see
what millions see
A LAME DUCK COACHING JOB... and alot of talk ulnleash hell? splash plays? WTF is that?
is this the same STEELERS?
get off the crackpipe man it starts with the head coach.
you know like the Emperor???????????

For what it is worth, Chuck Noll's teams had exactly one 10 win season in his last dozen years coaching. I don't mean to demean a Hall of Fame coach, but even the greats have down years. This is Tomlin's first down year. Firing Super Bowl winning coaches after one down year is BRILLIANT!!!

http://www.tiricosuave.com/images/brilliant.jpg

feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 06:01 PM
OK will just brush this season under the rug.
Forget about it -it never happened.
Im with you man.

feltdizz
12-11-2009, 07:51 PM
OK will just brush this season under the rug.
Forget about it -it never happened.
Im with you man.

Nope... But why are you so quick to sweep the SB under the rug?

This season is definitely one to put in the "you're fired" file cabinet.
However you have to weigh the good seasons against the bad ones.

SteelerNation1
12-11-2009, 08:05 PM
feelthesteel you lost me you said at least cowher had balls. that might be the most ridiculous thing i have ever read. 4th and 2 ring a bell???

feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 08:08 PM
No
im happy we won the SB last year
but were in the Toilet Bowl this year.

I get tired of telling people
well we won the SB last year so were gonna stink the next year.

Anyhow i cant wait til Tomlin puts his stamp on this team
like he said he would after the SB.

DukieBoy
12-11-2009, 08:14 PM
Tomlin will make major changes to the coaching staff in the off-season.

SteelBucks
12-11-2009, 08:32 PM
feelthesteel you lost me you said at least cowher had balls. that might be the most ridiculous thing i have ever read. 4th and 2 ring a bell???

I was thinking of the exact situation.

feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 08:36 PM
Yeah
Cowher might of had balls may not have.
but he had Korkie and OD too.
Once he got his ring he didnt give a damn
he knew he was leaving. My belief.
We were usually in the postseason though.
pretty regularly.
ok he wanted Rivers do you think Rivers stinks? seriously
who knows how he may have been?
Im glad we got Ben but in his first SB that wasnt his best performance even he admits it.
We are blessed with a great D.



The jury is still out. on MT
hopefully he pulls the trigger and cleans house.

SteelCrazy
12-11-2009, 08:45 PM
Yeah you can say Cowher sucked
but he never had a franchise QB until the end and then won a SB.
We had ODonell and he at least got them to championships
Imagine if Ben was the QB.

if cowher got his way we still wouldnt have a franchise qb

Thank YOU!!! I was about to explode....must be a bang wagoneer

eniparadoxgma
12-11-2009, 08:45 PM
Cowher at least had some balls.



Cowher might of had balls may not have.


?






The jury is still out. on MT

The jury is still out but we should "FIRE TOMLIN AND HIRE MIKE SHANNAHAN"?

?



:wft

feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 08:52 PM
BROWNS/BUNGLES/RAIDERS/CHIEFS
need i say more
thank god were not playing USC.

eniparadoxgma
12-11-2009, 09:01 PM
BROWNS/BUNGLES/RAIDERS/CHIEFS
need i say more
thank god were not playing USC.

lmao

Why do you evade direct responses?

Are you just trolling? If you are, you got me pretty good. :lol:

SteelAbility
12-11-2009, 09:06 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Shanahan as OC. He actually has a great offensive mind.

feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 09:16 PM
Dude
im not evading ****
im stating how i feeel. disgusted.

Were the Steelers not the Jets.
and i also believe that Whiz was just as qualified.
hopefully i'll be proved wrong.
this is just my opinion.
and Shanahan brings experience.

The Rooneys dont always hire the best i.e. Joe Walton

eniparadoxgma
12-11-2009, 09:21 PM
Okay. I'm done.

Peace.

feelthesteel
12-11-2009, 09:36 PM
im a troll
i rock n roll
i wish my Steelers would make it to the Bowl
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stlrz d
12-11-2009, 10:28 PM
When I clicked on this thread (had not refreshed the page) I fully expected to get an "invalid link" error.

Wow. What a bunch of double-speak, ignorance filled thread.

steelsnis
12-11-2009, 10:49 PM
Dude
im not evading bad word
im stating how i feeel. disgusted.

Were the Steelers not the Jets.
and i also believe that Whiz was just as qualified.
hopefully i'll be proved wrong.
this is just my opinion.
and Shanahan brings experience.

The Rooneys dont always hire the best i.e. Joe Walton



That's pure poetry. But how come it doesn't rhyme?

feelthesteel
12-12-2009, 05:44 AM
some people just post to go for a record here
funny.