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Steeler Mafia
12-07-2009, 04:49 PM
Looks like Tomlin is going to change things up not only schematically but from a personnel standpoint.

Obviously either Joe Burnett and Keenan Lewis will start in William Gay's spot, but the other may take Ike's spot as well.

Other changes, according to the PC, you might see are Ziggy Hood at Left DE. Keyaron Fox at ILB with Timmons playing only in a Nickle role. Mundy taking one of the two safty positions, even though his game was all that great either. Trai Essex may move to RG and biggest of all is Limas Sweed will see considerable amount of playing time with Mike Wallace getting the start. They might re-sign Shaun McDonald to add depth to the WR corp.

All I can say is its about time. Hold the players accountable Coach! Leave no doubt!

RuthlessBurgher
12-07-2009, 04:54 PM
Trai Essex has been the RG all season...

Steeler Mafia
12-07-2009, 05:00 PM
That is what Mr. Douchette reported. Maybe he meant moving him to LG to replace Ramon Foster?

Oviedo
12-07-2009, 05:02 PM
The change I want to see is away from a 3-4 that doesn't work to a 4-3 defense that better fits our personnel :stirpot

RuthlessBurgher
12-07-2009, 05:03 PM
That is what Mr. Douchette reported. Maybe he meant moving him to LG to replace Ramon Foster?

Kemoeatu started at LG in this game against the Raiders.

RuthlessBurgher
12-07-2009, 05:07 PM
The change I want to see is away from a 3-4 that doesn't work to a 4-3 defense that better fits our personnel :stirpot

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The 3-4 was fine through 3 quarters (held them to a couple of FG's). Then in the 4th, the other team stops trying to run, we try to defend the pass with glorified prevent cover 2 defense, and the D gets shredded. In all of these games where teams are coming back against us, it is not our regular base defensive formation that it letting us down.

ikestops85
12-07-2009, 05:09 PM
That is what Mr. Douchette reported. Maybe he meant moving him to LG to replace Ramon Foster?

Kemoeatu started at LG in this game against the Raiders.

Maybe Foster will start in place of Kemo since we ran better with him in the lineup against the Ravens than we did with Kemo against the Raiders.

Steeler Mafia
12-07-2009, 05:10 PM
That is what Mr. Douchette reported. Maybe he meant moving him to LG to replace Ramon Foster?

Kemoeatu started at LG in this game against the Raiders.



AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHH! Quit it! (Kidding) :lol:

Like I said, this is what Douchey stated in his video review of today's PC pn the Post Gazette web site. What he meant by it, who the hell knows? But he did say it.

Don't shoot the messenger.

LouSteel
12-07-2009, 05:10 PM
Looks like Tomlin is going to change things up not only schematically but from a personnel standpoint.

Obviously either Joe Burnett and Keenan Lewis will start in William Gay's spot, but the other may take Ike's spot as well.

This sounds good to me. Worth a shot.

Other changes, according to the PC, you might see are Ziggy Hood at Left DE.

Cool

Keyaron Fox at ILB with Timmons playing only in a Nickle role.

Wow, this would be a surprise. I wonder if the thought is to groom Fox as a replacement for Farrior without taking an experienced player off the field...

Mundy taking one of the two safty positions, even though his game was all that great either.

I guess they have confidence in a young guy. He's got more upside than Ty Carter, but I'd prefer to keep Ryan Clark in.

Trai Essex may move to RG

He is the RG... I wonder what they mean by this

Limas Sweed will see considerable amount of playing time with Mike Wallace getting the start. They might re-sign Shaun McDonald to add depth to the WR corp.

Wow. I definitely want to see what we've got in Sweed, and the Browns are going to be his best chance to shine. I want to see him get in a rhythm and see how he produces. I hope he surprises us all.

All I can say is its about time. Hold the players accountable Coach! Leave no doubt!

$$$. Let's get the best players on the field, some young guys hungry to win. If we get them in and give it our all, I don't doubt that we can win.

Oviedo
12-07-2009, 05:16 PM
The change I want to see is away from a 3-4 that doesn't work to a 4-3 defense that better fits our personnel :stirpot

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The 3-4 was fine through 3 quarters (held them to a couple of FG's). Then in the 4th, the other team stops trying to run, we try to defend the pass with glorified prevent cover 2 defense, and the D gets shredded. In all of these games where teams are coming back against us, it is not our regular base defensive formation that it letting us down.

We didn't stop playing the 3-4 in the 4th Quarter of any game and switch to a 4-3. It has been our 3-4 defense that has been routinely getting their butts kicked late in games. Same personnel, same scheme. We play variations of the Cover 2 all game long.

If LeBeau is not making adjustments then shame on him.

papillon
12-07-2009, 05:22 PM
So, Sweed is going to see considerable playing time and Wallace the start? Forgive me if I"m wrong here, but Holmes and Ward were the bright spots yesterday, not part of the problem. Who will Wallace be replacing? And, who will be lsoing playing time to give it to Sweed?

I want to see Sweed, but the time should come from Wallace's he's been a non-factor for a few games now.

This wreaks of change just to change without a real plan, IMO.

Pappy

LouSteel
12-07-2009, 05:25 PM
So, Sweed is going to see considerable playing time and Wallace the start? Forgive me if I"m wrong here, but Holmes and Ward were the bright spots yesterday, not part of the problem. Who will Wallace be replacing?

Ward, who injured his hamstring.

Sweed will get time as the 3WR.

I think you're reading a bit too much into that specific change -- I think it's temporary and based on Ward's questionable status for the game.

papillon
12-07-2009, 05:31 PM
So, Sweed is going to see considerable playing time and Wallace the start? Forgive me if I"m wrong here, but Holmes and Ward were the bright spots yesterday, not part of the problem. Who will Wallace be replacing?

Ward, who injured his hamstring.

Sweed will get time as the 3WR.

I think you're reading a bit too much into that specific change -- I think it's temporary and based on Ward's questionable status for the game.

I didn't realize Ward was injured, that's the first I've heard of it. I really want Sweed to see some time (but, not at the expense of the guys who are playing well), I believe he's going to be a very good receiver in this league. I don't know why, but I do.

I'd like to see Sweed see some of Wallace's reps, he's been a non-factor for a few weeks now.

Pappy

NC Steeler Fan
12-07-2009, 05:35 PM
So, Sweed is going to see considerable playing time and Wallace the start? Forgive me if I"m wrong here, but Holmes and Ward were the bright spots yesterday, not part of the problem. Who will Wallace be replacing?

Ward, who injured his hamstring.

Sweed will get time as the 3WR.

I think you're reading a bit too much into that specific change -- I think it's temporary and based on Ward's questionable status for the game.

Agreed. At least we'll get to see if Sweed can turn his performance around.

Steeler Mafia
12-07-2009, 05:35 PM
Hines tweaked his hamstring the second to last play of the game. Being that it is a short week, they are not sure that he will be ready to go. So Mike Wallace will get the start and Limas will see 3rd WR action.

RuthlessBurgher
12-07-2009, 05:36 PM
The change I want to see is away from a 3-4 that doesn't work to a 4-3 defense that better fits our personnel :stirpot

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The 3-4 was fine through 3 quarters (held them to a couple of FG's). Then in the 4th, the other team stops trying to run, we try to defend the pass with glorified prevent cover 2 defense, and the D gets shredded. In all of these games where teams are coming back against us, it is not our regular base defensive formation that it letting us down.

We didn't stop playing the 3-4 in the 4th Quarter of any game and switch to a 4-3. It has been our 3-4 defense that has been routinely getting their butts kicked late in games. Same personnel, same scheme. We play variations of the Cover 2 all game long.

If LeBeau is not making adjustments then shame on him.

We aren't running a 3-4 or a 4-3 late in the game. It is nickel or dime defenses with soft zones and no semblence of a pass rush that are killing us. When our front 7 is in the game in a 3-4 formation, they are fine.

LouSteel
12-07-2009, 05:39 PM
I didn't realize Ward was injured, that's the first I've heard of it. I really want Sweed to see some time (but, not at the expense of the guys who are playing well), I believe he's going to be a very good receiver in this league. I don't know why, but I do.

I'd like to see Sweed see some of Wallace's reps, he's been a non-factor for a few weeks now.

Pappy

The AP reported that Hines is expected to miss the game with a hamstring :(

As for Sweed, I'm curious to see how he plays as the 3WR. He should get plenty of opportunities. I want to see him get into a rhythm and start catching the easy ones...

RuthlessBurgher
12-07-2009, 05:40 PM
Mundy taking one of the two safty positions, even though his game was all that great either.

I guess they have confidence in a young guy. He's got more upside than Ty Carter, but I'd prefer to keep Ryan Clark in.

I think they intend to keep Clark in. It is my understanding that this meant that Mundy would take the place of Carter (in Troy's spot until Polamalu gets healthy again).

eniparadoxgma
12-07-2009, 05:41 PM
I agree with it all.

Out of curiosity, during Cowher's tenure did he ever make this many changes at one time? I don't remember anything like this...but my memory is teh suck.

I like Wallace. I think he's been a damn good #3 IMO.

Chadman
12-07-2009, 05:45 PM
Mass changes?

Well, the fat lady has sung then.

Chadman is happy we get to see what the young guys can do. The next couple of weekd determine the draft targets in April, and the FA moves in March..