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Steeler Mafia
10-26-2009, 10:08 AM
Can someone help me answer this? For someone that has anger management issues, and likes to beat up towel dispensers in bathrooms, what was skippy thinking in that sorry attempt at stopping Percy Harvin on the Vikings return? That was a horrible effort on his part and doesn't help his campaign of staying with the Steelers.

I honestly think he is gone after this season, as much as I would like to see him clean up his act and stay.

pfelix73
10-26-2009, 10:11 AM
Not only that- he reportedly got into a shouting match with a fan and even egged him on to come down on to the field for a fight.

Steelers brass must be getting tired of his attitude. He won't be back.

:tt1

fezziwig
10-26-2009, 10:13 AM
I just read on this board I believe that, it is rumored that Reed got into it with a fan after or during the game. I wonder where this information came from or will come out ?


Did Spaeth play ? Everyone seems to forget, he caused some of this crap too.

RuthlessBurgher
10-26-2009, 10:14 AM
Not only that- he reportedly got into a shouting match with a fan and even egged him on to come down on to the field for a fight.

Steelers brass must be getting tired of his attitude. He won't be back.

:tt1

I hope it was Steeler Jesus. I'd pay to watch Skippy vs. Steeler Jesus in a steel cage match. :mrgreen:

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frankthetank1
10-26-2009, 11:01 AM
jeff reed's poor kick off and poor tackle attempt let the vikes in the game. you take that and mendy's fumble away and it's not even close. im so sick of reed. the reason harvin took that kick off to the house was because he got a 15 yard head start and caught the ball with a lot of momentum. reed could of dove at his legs but he chose to do nothing. his attitude is terrible, i hope the steelers dont re-sign him

Oviedo
10-26-2009, 11:09 AM
jeff reed's poor kick off and poor tackle attempt let the vikes in the game. you take that and mendy's fumble away and it's not even close. im so sick of reed. the reason harvin took that kick off to the house was because he got a 15 yard head start and caught the ball with a lot of momentum. reed could of dove at his legs but he chose to do nothing. his attitude is terrible, i hope the steelers dont re-sign him

Unless he cleans up his act, I think the "frat boy" is spending his last season with this organization. Slipping performance and being a team embarassment is not a recipe for long term employment in any profession.

fezziwig
10-26-2009, 11:27 AM
Reed has always been money and kind of went into the doghouse over the Bears game. With the paper towel incident, the out of hand incident with the cops/Spaed stuff, are we being too hard on him ?
Are we being unfair ?

kindlecatsb'ng
10-26-2009, 03:37 PM
Listened to several different sports talk shows today while driving and the consensus was the same with many of the sports talking heads that Reed didn't make a good attempt at stopping that run. Many were "what was he thinking" kinds of comments and commented on his poor execution.

Maybe he is campaigning to be gone. Who knows; however, hope he doesn't sabatoge the Steelers in any close games with his kicking field goals in crunch time. Passive aggressive behavior can be dangerous in tight games.

Oviedo
10-26-2009, 03:48 PM
Reed has always been money and kind of went into the doghouse over the Bears game. With the paper towel incident, the out of hand incident with the cops/Spaed stuff, are we being too hard on him ?
Are we being unfair ?

No

The guy is a 30 year old millionaire not a 14 year old. If he has issues he can afford to get help.

SteelAbility
10-26-2009, 03:49 PM
Come on guys we can't expect Reed to put his drinking hand at risk of injury on a STs play, can we? :Beer :wink:

aggiebones
10-26-2009, 04:20 PM
I can't believe you guys blame Reed for not making the tackle. Where was everyone else? Kickers are suppose to slow down kick returners, not tackle them. Had Reed dived, Harvin may have fallen down, but only due to laughter. He slowed him and turned him a bit. Should have been enough for someone to recover and get him. Yes, blame Reed some, but where were the other 10 that get paid to play real football?
I swear Reed must have taken some of your women when you were out drinking one night cause this Reed attacking thing is ridiculous. The overexaggeration of his shortcomings both on the field and off are crazy.
He had a large part in losing the Chitown game though the who team with pathetic that night. He had 2 nights of drinking that he over indulged. Neither amounted to much and he needs to curb things a bit. That's about it.
Players love him and he's good for chemistry and he is accurate compared to most kickers. Lay off.

grotonsteel
10-26-2009, 05:00 PM
Jeff Reed missed one tackle but he is a kicker.His main job is to kick field goals and he is accurate in that task. If he signs cheap i am all for signing him to an extension.

One thing though Jeff Reed should be kicking the ball in the endzone on the kickoffs instead of kicking at 15 yard line with no hang time.

Lonbull
10-26-2009, 05:03 PM
Reed has always been money and kind of went into the doghouse over the Bears game. With the paper towel incident, the out of hand incident with the cops/Spaed stuff, are we being too hard on him ?
Are we being unfair ?

Fezziwig-

Personally I think this is a case where Reed's on the field contributions are not enough to warrent his off the field behavior (which in my opinion is pretty minor stuff).

I mean if it "weren't" a double standard - shouldn't we complain with every Interception that maybe Ben Roethlisberger is a sex addict and this should be his last season?

With every missed tackle by James Harrison - shouldn't we be talking about his "at-home" issues...and that this should be his last season with the Steelers.

Santonio Holmes - has a far worse "rap" sheet than Jeff Reed - but we rarely talk about it.

I just think certain fans have always thought of Jeff Reed as being "very" replaceable and they're just using these off the field antics as further amunition to get rid of him at the end of the season.

IMO - So far his antics off the field have been pretty tame (at least what I've read) - and yeah it's obvious the guy likes to get his "party on" but I don't think it's effected his play.

I'm all for the Steelers having the best player at whatever position - so if they find another guy who can put it through the uprights on a 82% overall average in Heinz Field than I'll have no issue saying goodbye to Jeff Reed.

However -as we've seen so often in the past with Special Teams - sometimes it takes quite awhile to find the right replacement.

So far Mike Tomlin has struck me as a guy who is tough but fair - so I trust he and the Steelers Front Office will make the best decisions.

L.B.

skyhawk
10-26-2009, 05:58 PM
His off the field antics aside, he is paid to make FG's.

Harvin is a stud and most kickers in the league whiff on tackles. Give me a frickin break fellas, I don't think he should be gone just b/c of that runback :HeadBanger . The guys up front should have not allowed that to happen.

stlrz d
10-26-2009, 10:18 PM
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Mister Pittsburgh
10-27-2009, 08:06 AM
I forget if it was the Eagles kicker tackling a Redskins returner, or the Redskins kicker tackling the Eagles returner, but it was almost the same exact return where the kicker was the last guy before open field, and the returner was up against the sideline and the kicker made a nice form tackle and planted the guy. Reed is a football player even if he is just a kicker, and football players need to be able to hit. Reed tried to push like a 5th grade girl and it failed.

Oviedo
10-27-2009, 08:09 AM
I forget if it was the Eagles kicker tackling a Redskins returner, or the Redskins kicker tackling the Eagles returner, but it was almost the same exact return where the kicker was the last guy before open field, and the returner was up against the sideline and the kicker made a nice form tackle and planted the guy. Reed is a football player even if he is just a kicker, and football players need to be able to hit. Reed tried to push like a 5th grade girl and it failed.

Amen...

Jooser
10-27-2009, 08:31 AM
Can someone help me answer this? For someone that has anger management issues, and likes to beat up towel dispensers in bathrooms, what was skippy thinking in that sorry attempt at stopping Percy Harvin on the Vikings return? That was a horrible effort on his part and doesn't help his campaign of staying with the Steelers.

I honestly think he is gone after this season, as much as I would like to see him clean up his act and stay.

He was probably thinking that if he makes the tackle, the odds makers in Vegas (mafia) would cut his fingers off. :D

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Steeler Mafia
10-27-2009, 11:48 AM
I said this in a previous post, Reed's main job is not only kicking field goals and extra-points. He is part of the coverage on kick offs. The 'last line of defense', if you will. Granted, I don't expect him to make an LT type hit on Harvin, but at least get in front of the guy and try to slow him down. Don't give me this Ole` bullsh##.

His attempt was pathetic. Your're a football player, first and foremost. Stop proving how tough you are by beating up a towel dispenser in a public bathroom, or mouthing off to a metro officer. Show me by making a play on the field. I have seen QBs make better attempts at a tackle or slowing a guy down that Reed showed on Sunday. One of which is on this very team.

Skippy is a good kicker, but he is becoming an embarassment to the team. He should seriously consider this being that he is in a contract year. :2c

birtikidis
10-27-2009, 12:11 PM
i don't mind the missed tackles so much. The guys in the coverage unit should NEVER let the guy get that good of a return. what i hate about reed, and i've complained about it for years is his shallow kick offs. I'd like to see the returner catch the ball at the goal line not hte 12....

JTP53609
10-27-2009, 12:50 PM
yea not only catch it at the 12, but run up with all the momentum and catch it at the 12, i cant stand him kicking off any more, my dad brought this to my attention a few years ago and i alwasy said that alot of kickers cant kick it in the endzone, well turns out alot do and reed cant even get it inside the 10.....morten anderson just retired, i say we get norm johnson, he has to be under 50, and we know he can kick and we know he can tackle... :stirpot

skyhawk
10-27-2009, 02:40 PM
yea not only catch it at the 12, but run up with all the momentum and catch it at the 12, i cant stand him kicking off any more, my dad brought this to my attention a few years ago and i alwasy said that alot of kickers cant kick it in the endzone, well turns out alot do and reed cant even get it inside the 10.....morten anderson just retired, i say we get norm johnson, he has to be under 50, and we know he can kick and we know he can tackle... :stirpot

It's true that his kicks are short, but also of importance is how high you can kick the ball so your team has a chance to get under and cover, and I think his kicks are more than adequate in that regard. Only kicking a ball shallow and into the endzone still leaves the returner plenty of room to run.

Steeler Mafia
10-27-2009, 03:51 PM
TimFromChester: Ed, do you think if Harvin was wearing a police uniform Reed would have put in a better effort at making a tackle?

Ed Bouchette: It's my understanding he went down to the cops too.


I'm not a big Ed Douchette fan, but this is classic! :lol: :Clap :lol:

fezziwig
10-27-2009, 07:38 PM
I don't think many believe that kickers are a dime a dozen and Reed is expendable. I think a lot of folks are taken back by some of his, doesn't seem to learn attitude.
He is too old to be acting this way. My buddy was out with a bunch of people a couple of years ago and Reed was in the crowd with them. Reed was a friend to someone else in the group. Not saying it's gospel to you guys but, my friend wouldn't BS me either. Reed was out of hand all night he said. He wanted to challenge everyone to wrestling, slap boxing I think he said and pretty much trying to be the alpha dog the entire night. He said Reed continued to aggetate one of the guys, by pushing him and jumping on his back trying to get him to wrestle around. The guys back got hurt, pretty much everyone was uncomfortable around him and they ended the evening early because Reed was a tool.

I heard this stuff long before the paper towel incident. I have tons of respect for him as a field goal kicker, not to much for him as a mature person. I lost respect for him when I seen the team photo with the 2005 Super Bowl team at the White House. Reed couldn't even curb his *******ism during the photo that was taken.

JTP53609
10-28-2009, 01:44 PM
I don't think many believe that kickers are a dime a dozen and Reed is expendable. I think a lot of folks are taken back by some of his, doesn't seem to learn attitude.
He is too old to be acting this way. My buddy was out with a bunch of people a couple of years ago and Reed was in the crowd with them. Reed was a friend to someone else in the group. Not saying it's gospel to you guys but, my friend wouldn't BS me either. Reed was out of hand all night he said. He wanted to challenge everyone to wrestling, slap boxing I think he said and pretty much trying to be the alpha dog the entire night. He said Reed continued to aggetate one of the guys, by pushing him and jumping on his back trying to get him to wrestle around. The guys back got hurt, pretty much everyone was uncomfortable around him and they ended the evening early because Reed was a tool.

I heard this stuff long before the paper towel incident. I have tons of respect for him as a field goal kicker, not to much for him as a mature person. I lost respect for him when I seen the team photo with the 2005 Super Bowl team at the White House. Reed couldn't even curb his *******ism during the photo that was taken.


i dont like getting into the whole " i heard that he did this stuff " either, but I agree with you, I would believe the stories I hear from the pictures I have seen of him before, I did not like his whole attitude last year at the parade when one of the newscasters asked him a question and he responded with a smart#$$ answer followed by "nobody would understand what that means unless your on the team" ....okay jeff, your cool

what was the picture of him at the white house of in 05, i missed that one

RuthlessBurgher
10-28-2009, 01:47 PM
I don't think many believe that kickers are a dime a dozen and Reed is expendable. I think a lot of folks are taken back by some of his, doesn't seem to learn attitude.
He is too old to be acting this way. My buddy was out with a bunch of people a couple of years ago and Reed was in the crowd with them. Reed was a friend to someone else in the group. Not saying it's gospel to you guys but, my friend wouldn't BS me either. Reed was out of hand all night he said. He wanted to challenge everyone to wrestling, slap boxing I think he said and pretty much trying to be the alpha dog the entire night. He said Reed continued to aggetate one of the guys, by pushing him and jumping on his back trying to get him to wrestle around. The guys back got hurt, pretty much everyone was uncomfortable around him and they ended the evening early because Reed was a tool.

I heard this stuff long before the paper towel incident. I have tons of respect for him as a field goal kicker, not to much for him as a mature person. I lost respect for him when I seen the team photo with the 2005 Super Bowl team at the White House. Reed couldn't even curb his *******ism during the photo that was taken.


i dont like getting into the whole " i heard that he did this stuff " either, but I agree with you, I would believe the stories I hear from the pictures I have seen of him before, I did not like his whole attitude last year at the parade when one of the newscasters asked him a question and he responded with a smart#$$ answer followed by "nobody would understand what that means unless your on the team" ....okay jeff, your cool

what was the picture of him at the white house of in 05, i missed that one

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MeetJoeGreene
10-28-2009, 03:06 PM
Getting mad at a kicker for missing a tackle is akin to gettting mad a pitcher for not delivering a triple with runners in scoring postion.

RuthlessBurgher
10-28-2009, 03:16 PM
Getting mad at a kicker for missing a tackle is akin to gettting mad a pitcher for not delivering a triple with runners in scoring postion.

Or getting mad at Shaq for missing a free throw. :wink:

steelernation77
10-28-2009, 03:35 PM
Reed has made tackles before, I can't fault him too much. If you watch the play closely, Harvin jukes inside a little which makes Reed hesitate to try and stop him inside and it gives Harvin the corner. Reed tries to recover and but Harvin is just too quick so Reed is unable to get to him. It's freaking Percy Harvin, one of the most dynamic players in college football over the last four years. I can't really blame our kicker for having a tough time tackling him in the open field.

That being said, Reed should probably have let Harvin juke to the inside to prevent him from getting the sideline, but that's still a really tough play.

aggiebones
10-28-2009, 03:36 PM
Perfectly put:
"Getting mad at a kicker for missing a tackle is akin to gettting mad a pitcher for not delivering a triple with runners in scoring postion."

Watch the play again. If Reed was in a gap and had Harvin closed off, then I think he puts his head in a bit more. He has been known to tackle before, so let's not forget this. Harvin was out in space with only Reed in the area (where was everyone else!!!!). Reed can not match Harvin even slightly athletically. If he commits to a tackle he would DEFINITELY have missed. I'd say 1 kicker in the last 10 years could have tackled Harvin in that exact situation. Reed is a specialist and it does no good at all for him to go sticking his head in there on a play and being out for the season. Do you think we could just sign a random guy out there and have him kick for us in the playoffs? You can replace a guy in the offseason to a degree, but not midseason. Its a crapshoot midseason to find a young inexperienced guy or an old geezer like Morton Anderson or something like that.
So think things through before making asinine statements.

He had a glitch during and after the Chitown game that he's working on correcting. From what I've seen since, he's not having the same problem. He should be good to go.
In the offseason, he lost some leverage and should get much less of an offer. If he so desires, he'll walk, but I think he'll stay.
And say F you and steal some more of your women. lol

Steeler Mafia
10-28-2009, 04:43 PM
It is not missing the tackle that has us miffed, but the effort, or should I say lack of effort, he put forth to slow Harvin down.

This is a guy that: A) wants to wrestle friends on a night out B) beats up public bathrooms C) known as the psycho kicker D) argues with local police E) acts like an idiot in general (whether it be at the white house, super bowl parade, etc. F) has anger management issues

...but then pusses out of putting himself in the way or trying to make a play on Harvin during the return. It just doesn't make sense.

I think he is a good kicker for our team, but his actions this year, on and off the field, is not something I would expect from someone looking for a contract extension.

birtikidis
10-29-2009, 04:38 PM
I don't think many believe that kickers are a dime a dozen and Reed is expendable. I think a lot of folks are taken back by some of his, doesn't seem to learn attitude.
He is too old to be acting this way. My buddy was out with a bunch of people a couple of years ago and Reed was in the crowd with them. Reed was a friend to someone else in the group. Not saying it's gospel to you guys but, my friend wouldn't BS me either. Reed was out of hand all night he said. He wanted to challenge everyone to wrestling, slap boxing I think he said and pretty much trying to be the alpha dog the entire night. He said Reed continued to aggetate one of the guys, by pushing him and jumping on his back trying to get him to wrestle around. The guys back got hurt, pretty much everyone was uncomfortable around him and they ended the evening early because Reed was a tool.

I heard this stuff long before the paper towel incident. I have tons of respect for him as a field goal kicker, not to much for him as a mature person. I lost respect for him when I seen the team photo with the 2005 Super Bowl team at the White House. Reed couldn't even curb his *******ism during the photo that was taken.
this reminds me of the time me and my buddy got in a fight with a couple UF football players. one of them was Tony Joiner. Joiner was way out of control and tried to sucker punch my buddy so i tackled his ass and punched him a few times. he got even further out of control. the only part the rest of the world heard about though was the fact that he tried to break into a tow truck service to get his gf's car out. i totally screwed my ankle up that night and it's been bad ever since. he's a strong dude, but a total douche.

RuthlessBurgher
10-29-2009, 07:21 PM
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steelblood
11-02-2009, 06:05 PM
I really wish Sepulveda could kick off. He would have made the tackle.