Tomlin says kicker Reed will start despite arrest

[RuthlessBurgher]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4579393


Updated: October 20, 2009, 2:50 PM ET

Agent says Reed didn't resist arrest

ESPN.com news services

PITTSBURGH -- Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin says kicker Jeff Reed will play in Sunday's home game against the Minnesota Vikings despite a recent brush with the law.

Reed is charged with simple assault, resisting arrest, disorderly conduct and public drunkenness for allegedly scuffling with Pittsburgh police outside a bar near Heinz Field in the hours after Sunday's win over the Cleveland Browns.

Police were citing Reed's teammate Matt Spaeth for allegedly urinating outside the bar when Reed intervened. Police say Reed took a "fighting stance" and challenged the officers.

Reed is expected to receive a court summons in the mail.

Police say Reed took a "fighting stance" when officers arrived, and became unruly when police tried to restrain him. But the kicker's agent, Don Henderson, said Reed didn't raise his fists in front of police.

Henderson denied that allegation in comments to Pittsburgh media outlets Monday, but declined to elaborate when asked about it by The Associated Press.

"We're contesting it," Henderson told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. "It involved somebody else on the team, [Reed] got out to try to help and basically got attacked by the police. He was with his parents. He got out and tried to help and evidently they didn't want to hear that. ... It was somebody else trying to do something and Jeff ended up getting slammed in the middle."

This is Reed's second brush with the law this year.

He paid $543 in fines and restitution after pleading guilty to disorderly conduct and criminal mischief for damaging a paper towel dispenser in a convenience store bathroom in New Alexandria in February.

"He may try to talk him to death, but he's not going to try to hit him," Henderson said, according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. "That's just not his personality at all. He's about as nonconfrontational a person I know."

The Associated Press could not immediately locate Spaeth's agent for comment Tuesday.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

[steelblood]

Tomlin has to start reed. If he doesn't he'll have to cut someone to make room for another kicker. Punishing another player to sit Reed is silly.

[Ghost]

What about his lost security clearance?

[eniparadoxgma]

Non-confrontational, eh?

Tell that to that poor paper towel dispenser. :x

[proudpittsburgher]

Honestly, this is a much different story than what we heard originally. That being said, I know we have to look at the source, which is Skippy's agent. Either way, I wish some of these guys would just go home and read a friggen book by the fire after a game. Or something, anything. Watch porn on skinamax, I don't care, just don't jeopardize the rest of the team by actign like an idiot.

[JTP53609]

Honestly, this is a much different story than what we heard originally. That being said, I know we have to look at the source, which is Skippy's agent. Either way, I wish some of these guys would just go home and read a friggen book by the fire after a game. Or something, anything. Watch porn on skinamax, I don't care, just don't jeopardize the rest of the team by actign like an idiot.


...i know i lead a boring life, work, coach and my wife and i go crazy by going out to eat every saturday night after church,...i am not asking them to live the life i do, but have some common sense, go out and have a good time but dont be dumb and confront police, when i see those players get in trouble at night clubs, half the time it is at 4 in the morning or some kind of ridiculous time, go home at a reasonable time. it gets annoying when i see players get arrested, or even shot and it happens at 5 in the morning, some need to just grow up and stop acting like they are invincible....

[Oviedo]

Tomlin has to start reed. If he doesn't he'll have to cut someone to make room for another kicker. Punishing another player to sit Reed is silly.

It sucks he is a "specialist" and he is in a one deep position on the team because I would love to see him benched.

However, punishing another player by releasing him because of Reed may make that player so angry he might beat the living crap out of Reed and that would be well worth it.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Honestly, this is a much different story than what we heard originally. That being said, I know we have to look at the source, which is Skippy's agent. Either way, I wish some of these guys would just go home and read a friggen book by the fire after a game. Or something, anything. Watch porn on skinamax, I don't care, just don't jeopardize the rest of the team by actign like an idiot.


...i know i lead a boring life, work, coach and my wife and i go crazy by going out to eat every saturday night after church,...i am not asking them to live the life i do, but have some common sense, go out and have a good time but dont be dumb and confront police, when i see those players get in trouble at night clubs, half the time it is at 4 in the morning or some kind of ridiculous time, go home at a reasonable time. it gets annoying when i see players get arrested, or even shot and it happens at 5 in the morning, some need to just grow up and stop acting like they are invincible....

Yeah, so this taking place at 9:00 p.m., with Reed's parents in the car, makes it seem all the more strange.

[JTP53609]

Honestly, this is a much different story than what we heard originally. That being said, I know we have to look at the source, which is Skippy's agent. Either way, I wish some of these guys would just go home and read a friggen book by the fire after a game. Or something, anything. Watch porn on skinamax, I don't care, just don't jeopardize the rest of the team by actign like an idiot.


...i know i lead a boring life, work, coach and my wife and i go crazy by going out to eat every saturday night after church,...i am not asking them to live the life i do, but have some common sense, go out and have a good time but dont be dumb and confront police, when i see those players get in trouble at night clubs, half the time it is at 4 in the morning or some kind of ridiculous time, go home at a reasonable time. it gets annoying when i see players get arrested, or even shot and it happens at 5 in the morning, some need to just grow up and stop acting like they are invincible....

Yeah, so this taking place at 9:00 p.m., with Reed's parents in the car, makes it seem all the more strange.

i was ranting and raving over something that delt nothing with reed, reed just has no common sense as we all have found out the past few months....he could get drunk at 9 at night or 4 in the morning and he would still be a skippy the drunky

[rpmpit]

Tomlin has to start reed. If he doesn't he'll have to cut someone to make room for another kicker. Punishing another player to sit Reed is silly.

It sucks he is a "specialist" and he is in a one deep position on the team because I would love to see him benched.

However, punishing another player by releasing him because of Reed may make that player so angry he might beat the living crap out of Reed and that would be well worth it.

Good point. Cut Silverback :twisted:

[anger 82&95]

Could someone please indulge me with a definitive description of what is meant by the term “fighting stance?” If Reed squared off in a martial arts stance against armed police personnel he is either a ridiculous drunk, a complete imbecile, or both.

[proudpittsburgher]

Could someone please indulge me with a definitive description of what is meant by the term “fighting stance?” If Reed squared off in a martial arts stance against armed police personnel he is either a ridiculous drunk, a complete imbecile, or both.

I am sure the truth lies somewhere between the two stories. But with Skippy, I am leaning a little more toward the police officers than I am him. It's about credibility, and Skippy has done his best to lose whatever credibility he has. Is it fair to think this way, probably not, but Skippy created this persona, now he gets to live with it. I still think he needs to have the C taken off his jersey. Don't tell him, just take it off and hang it back in his locker. Let it resonate with him. If it doesn't change anything, well, then we just have to part ways with a guy who is an assett to us. It's unfortunate, but if you start putting up with this crap , you open up a pandoras box, and end up like the Bengals.

[anger 82&95]

Could someone please indulge me with a definitive description of what is meant by the term “fighting stance?” If Reed squared off in a martial arts stance against armed police personnel he is either a ridiculous drunk, a complete imbecile, or both.

I am sure the truth lies somewhere between the two stories. But with Skippy, I am leaning a little more toward the police officers than I am him. It's about credibility, and Skippy has done his best to lose whatever credibility he has. Is it fair to think this way, probably not, but Skippy created this persona, now he gets to live with it. I still think he needs to have the C taken off his jersey. Don't tell him, just take it off and hang it back in his locker. Let it resonate with him. If it doesn't change anything, well, then we just have to part ways with a guy who is an assett to us. It's unfortunate, but if you start putting up with this crap , you open up a pandoras box, and end up like the Bengals.
I’m not sure how such matters are handled in Pittsburgh, but in Southern California squaring off against the police will typically gain you a quick introduction to a nightstick followed up with a healthy dose of pepper spray.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Could someone please indulge me with a definitive description of what is meant by the term “fighting stance?” If Reed squared off in a martial arts stance against armed police personnel he is either a ridiculous drunk, a complete imbecile, or both.

I am sure the truth lies somewhere between the two stories. But with Skippy, I am leaning a little more toward the police officers than I am him. It's about credibility, and Skippy has done his best to lose whatever credibility he has. Is it fair to think this way, probably not, but Skippy created this persona, now he gets to live with it. I still think he needs to have the C taken off his jersey. Don't tell him, just take it off and hang it back in his locker. Let it resonate with him. If it doesn't change anything, well, then we just have to part ways with a guy who is an assett to us. It's unfortunate, but if you start putting up with this crap , you open up a pandoras box, and end up like the Bengals.

That will be difficult to do, since the Steelers do not actually use the "C" patch on their jerseys to signify which players are the captains. Although we all know that the captains are Ben, Hines, Farrior, Harrison, Reed, and Fox, none of those guys wear a special patch like many other teams use.

[rpmpit]

Could someone please indulge me with a definitive description of what is meant by the term “fighting stance?” If Reed squared off in a martial arts stance against armed police personnel he is either a ridiculous drunk, a complete imbecile, or both.


http://experiencelifemag.com/blogs/survival-of-the-fittest/files/2008/04/crane.jpg

[RuthlessBurgher]

Perhaps he hit them with Heatmiser gang sings.

http://defactotum.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/jeffreedhair.jpg http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/missconduct/heatmiser.jpg

[rpmpit]

Perhaps he hit them with Heatmiser gang sings.

http://defactotum.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/jeffreedhair.jpg http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/missconduct/heatmiser.jpg


Is that a Swatch???

[RuthlessBurgher]

Is that a Swatch???

Of all the things wrong with that picture, the watch he is wearing is the least of his worries. :lol:

[rpmpit]

Is that a Swatch???

Of all the things wrong with that picture, the watch he is wearing is the least of his worries. :lol:

Excellent point. I was just trying to be that cool guy that notices the most obscure things in a message board photo to prove how observant I am :lol:

[RuthlessBurgher]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4582863


Reed apologizes to teammates
Associated Press
Updated: October 21, 2009, 2:50 PM ET

PITTSBURGH -- Steelers kicker Jeff Reed has apologized to his teammates, saying he didn't mean to cause a distraction by getting involved in a run-in with Pittsburgh police several hours after kicking two field goals against Cleveland.

The incident was the second involving Reed this year and led to meetings with team president Art Rooney II, director of football operations Kevin Colbert and coach Mike Tomlin, none of whom was pleased with Reed's actions.

The NFL is investigating Reed's latest off-field problem, in which he was cited for simple assault, resisting arrest, disorderly conduct and public drunkenness after allegedly scuffling with Pittsburgh police officers outside a bar near Heinz Field. The incident happened several hours after the Steelers (4-2) beat the Browns 27-14 on Sunday.

Reed expects the investigation to take some time, but said Wednesday he is certain he won't be suspended. He also said he told his agent, Don Henderson, not to comment on the case. Henderson has said Reed will fight the charges.

Reed also said he was disappointed he drew attention away from the Steelers' important game Sunday against unbeaten Minnesota (6-0).


Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press

[flippy]

why did he get a simple assault charge?

did he touch the cop?

[aggiebones]

True that you can't bench him. Benching hurts the team and management more than anyone. Make him donate a gamecheck or half a gamecheck to some charity. Make him sit in some alcohol class every Tuesday night for a month. Those 2 things are FAR more painful than actually sitting in the press box for a game. Heck, he only does like 10 kicks a game max, so its not like being benched will alter him much. Take his cash and free time. And leave the team intact on gameday.