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Lambert
06-22-2009, 06:06 PM
Dagger at postgameheroes has these up at his site. They were written by Dutch , aka Mr Smartmonies.
NFL QUARTERBACK RANKINGS-

1.BEN ROETHLISBERGER
Everything you would want in a Quarterback. Big, Strong, Mobile, tough, accurate, Poised, great thrower inside and outside the pocket.One man Gang. Tied for 5th all time highest yards per pass avg. Winner. Won first 14 games as a rookie. Most wins thru first 5 years. Elevates his play in the playoffs. Operates behind the worst offensive line to have ever won a Superbowl. Great Road player. Carried team on back en route for 2nd Superbowl win in career. 121% 3rd down passer rating last 4 years in playoffs is #1 among all Quarterbacks.

2.Tom Brady
Poised. Accurate. Plays his best when its us against the world. 3 time SB champ. cheated to win. 1st 3 Superbowl wins should contain 3 asterisks. Now has Moss opening up the field for him. Knee injury looms large.

3.PEYTON MANNING
Perhaps the greatest regular season Quarterback of all time. A fantasy Players dream pick. Will Continue to throw despite being up two scores inside 5 minutes. Loves pouring it on against bad defenses. Struggles against the 3-4 defenses. Media tends to over look his playoff failures. In 8 playoff losses his offense has only averaged 13 points per game. Accurate passer that makes quick decisions. played along side 2 quick speedy receivers inside a dome for nearly entire career.

4.DONOVAN MCNAAB
Only downfall is he plays in Philly where they don't respect anything. Carries his team with subpar offensive weapons year in and year out. Leads his team deep into the playoffs annually. 2nd best all time in fewest interceptions per pass. Needs a Superbowl win to solidify his greatness.

5.KURT WARNER
One of the all time leaders in Yards per pass average. Winner. Feels more comfortable when he gets to throw the ball 35+ times a game. Has played with amazing receiving corps throughout his career. Decision making over rated by media. His Sack % increased to a morbid 12% with his stint with Giants when he didn't have the quick speed receivers getting open for him like he had in St louis and Arizona. Great character guy. Type of guy you meet at a grocery store.

6.PHILLIP RIVERS
Huge year in 2008. Led all Quarterbacks in yards per attempt. Sometimes questionable as a leader. Especially when he begins jawing at other teams fans. But showed leadership skills in 2007 playoffs playing on injury against Cheaters. Real threat of run game has helped. Has yet to show one man gang ability like Roethlisberger.

7.MATT RYAN
Looks like a man ahead of his time. Helped carry the Falcons to the playoffs in his first year. poised. high yards per attempt for a rookie. Ability to make plays. Will win a Superbowl someday.

8.DREW BREES
led the league in passing Yards. Almost broke Dan Marino's all time passing yards record in a single season. Struggles on the road. 6 of 8 road games in 2008 he had below a 70% passer rating. perhaps a product of his environment. Throws well in a dome. Likes to throw all the time to take the pressure off of having to complete the passes. Tends to struggle in 4th Quarters. Struggles with winning.

9.CARSON PALMER
Not a Winner. Believes the hype that surrounds him. Bombs away approach results in quick score or quick punt. Either way, it leaves his defense tired. His defense catches all the hell. Accurate in the pocket. Not mobile. Can't improvise. Tony Kornheisers favorite player.

10.AARON RODGERS
Solid. Helped Green Bay move on from the Favre era. Wasn't the problem in Green Bay. Offense was 5th best in scoring in 2008. played his best in the 2nd quarter with a 110 passer rating and 12 to 4 TD to interception ratio. A guy you can win with. Accurate deep ball passer.

11.TONY ROMO
High yards per pass average a bit suspect do to playing with deep threat receivers. Plays well against bad defenses. Passer rating tumbles to only 67% once December arrives. Big question mark about his upcoming 2009 season without T.O. opening up the field. Will need to become more of a Quarterback and not just a thrower. Needs to get a post season win to get fans & press off his back.

12.BRETT FAVRE
Assume he will be the starting QB for the Vikings. Old man still better then the hack throwers the Vikings sport today. Could QB the vikings to the SB behind that Offensive line and Run game. Tends to just heave balls up in the air when he is in trouble. Lacks discpline. Won't need to be the man in Minnesota.

13.JAY CUTLER
New Coach came in and ran him out of town. Very talented. Needs to learn how to win. Hasn't won since Highschool. Failed to lead his team to the playoffs at end of 2008 season. Reminds one of carson palmer. So far unable to deliver. But that could change in Chicago where he carries chip on shoulder.

14.JAKE DELHOMME
Solid NFL Quarterback. Only 74% passer rating throughout career on 3rd down. That's not good enough. Elway said key to an NFL QB is ability to move chains. Delhomme struggles to move chains. Especially in the postseason. A good story. Nice guy. Limited upside has held him back.

15.ELI MANNING
Fraud. Terrible thrower. Yards per pass career averge is only 6.3. Thats not much better than Mark Malone. Quaterbacks behind the best o-line in the biz. Best running game the NFL has seen since T Davis in Denver. Lucked out in 4th QTR in SB. Had a 40% passer rating in that game thru 3 Quarters. If Giants give him big money it will be big mistake. Not a leader. Reminds one of a child. Killed Giants in playoffs last year with wobbly ball.

16.Chad Pennington
Accurate on short to medium passes. a guy you can win with, Until post season when his limitations begin to creep up. A Leader. Hard worker. Competitive. A guy you can go to war with. Not very talented. Steadied the Dolphins after misearable 2007 campaign.

17.Kerry Collins
Good leader. Not great leader. Solid. a game manager. Not explosive. But in day and age of bad QB play in NFL, Collins seems to be a good fit for Titans. Quick release. Doesn't get sacked much. Happy to throw the ball away. Not mobile.

18.MATT HASSLEBECK
Over rated. Coached up. Very Mechanical. Opposite of a golfer who plays by feel. Throws a lot of passes that ends up not meaning much. Master of the 5 yard out pass. Doesn't have the talent to win a Superbowl.

19. DAVID GARRARD
Mobile, tough, somewhat accurate. Lost his big offensive line and run game last year in 1st week. Couldn't carry his team. A Quarterback who will win games with a happy medium of accuracy and mobility. A poor mans Donovan Mcnaab.

20.MATT SHAUB
Could sky rocket on next years ratings. nice yards per attempt average. If you don't think yards per attempt is important, consider that Ryan leaf has the all times lowest. Very close to winning. Needs to get off to a good start and get that winning feelin. Talented. Drafted same year manning, rivers and superstar Roethlisberger was taken. Upside.

21.MATT CASSEL
Did surprisingly well in New England. Got big money from Chiefs. But won't be able to take Moss with him. The field won't be wide open with his choice of receivers to throw too. People may question the Chiefs giving big money to this guy. Could turn out to be a fraud.

22.TRENT EDWARDS
Front runner. 116% passer rating when ahead in games, drops to only 70% when tied. Throws better down the middle of the field then he does to the outsides. 119% passer on first down, drops to 57% on 2nd down. This once again shows he a front runner. Needs to play with lead.

23.MARC BULGER
Once proud 8 yards per attempt avg, being beaten down to the sixes by terrible offensive line. has taken too many hits. Time is dwindling in St louis. Shame.

24.JOE FLACCO
Huge Talent. Very cool in pocket. Could become a problem for rival Steelers. Could take next step in year 2. Should make this rating look very bad.

25.BYRON LEFTWICH
Only a 79% passer for his career. Plays well when he isn't the guy. He wants to be the guy but doesn't perform when he is. Should win job in Tampa. Jim wexell wrote last year that Leftwich will be the next jim plunket and go on to win Multiple Superbowls. We doubt that very much.

26.KYLE ORTON
Comes over from Chicago to replace talented Jay Cutler. Orton is not talented. Would like to have a ticket for a game in Denver when he fails to deliver. The boo's wil cascade down from high above Invesco field. Would be a great team to cover as a reporter with hot shot coach making dumb choices.

27.JASON CAMBELL
Average QB at best. Was overwhelmed by steeler defense on a monday night at home 1 year ago. Was never the same after that. Just not good enough. Only averaged 5.9 yards per attempt on 3rd down , 1 year ago. Feels hurt that Skins were rumored to have been looking at Cutler. After Cutler signed with Bears, Skins said campbell is our guy. yea right.

28.DAUNTE CULPEPPER
This could be Matt Cassel 1 year from now. Look at what happens when you don't have Moss opening up the field for everyone.

29.SHAUN HILL
Rocky Balboa type of player. Heart. plays with passion. Not talented.

30.JAMARCUS RUSSEL
Sux so far.

Crash
06-22-2009, 11:07 PM
3 time SB champ. cheated to win.

:D

Northern_Blitz
06-22-2009, 11:25 PM
It's too bad the explainations are arn't objective. I think intelligent and fair arguements could have been made to support the rankings. But, this just reads like a fan rant.

He focused only on Ben's good attributes. Then only looked at the negitives for Brady and Payton. He also made some pretty unprofessional comments.

It would have seemed more legit if he added some negitives about Ben "i.e. sometimes gets burned for neglecting the checkdown to try to make the big play" or added some positives about Brady "excellent leader, has played well in important games and led game winning drives on the biggest stage" and Manning, "i.e. excellent football intellegence, leads by example and demands excellence from his team mates".

By ignoring Ben's issues and Brady and Manning's good points, this makes it look like you can't logically put Ben at the top of the list. I think it reflects poorly on the arguement (and the writer). It's a shame, because I think a reasonable arguement could be made for these rankings.

feltdizz
06-23-2009, 12:32 AM
It's too bad the explainations are arn't objective. I think intelligent and fair arguements could have been made to support the rankings. But, this just reads like a fan rant.

He focused only on Ben's good attributes. Then only looked at the negitives for Brady and Payton. He also made some pretty unprofessional comments.

It would have seemed more legit if he added some negitives about Ben "i.e. sometimes gets burned for neglecting the checkdown to try to make the big play" or added some positives about Brady "excellent leader, has played well in important games and led game winning drives on the biggest stage" and Manning, "i.e. excellent football intellegence, leads by example and demands excellence from his team mates".

By ignoring Ben's issues and Brady and Manning's good points, this makes it look like you can't logically put Ben at the top of the list. I think it reflects poorly on the arguement (and the writer). It's a shame, because I think a reasonable arguement could be made for these rankings.

I agree... but after the SB drive Ben had I think he gets a pass this year..

my issue with Brady is although he is good.. all his classic winning drives were to get in FG range.. he never had a TD pass to win the big one..

and the cheating is well documented.. he has to win the SB one more time for people to give him his propers..

but it is monies and he hugs Ben's twins like Linus does a blanket..LOL!!!

was he banned from posting here?

Lambert
06-23-2009, 12:45 AM
[quote="Northern_Blitz"]gets burned for neglecting the checkdown to try to make the big play" quote]


He was asked about this before over at steelersstrong. He said that
Mewelde Moore had 18 first downs in pass receiving last year and Parker
didn't have one. He said Ben's sack percentage dropped 5% as soon as
Parker got hurt. It might be that Parker is no Roger Craig.

Crash
06-23-2009, 12:47 AM
But see a lot of people say "Ben didn't check down like Byron did against the Skins".

Well Ben didn't have a checkdown like Byron did in that game. A lot of the time the RB is in pass protection for Ben, and isn't a checkdown option.

stlrz d
06-23-2009, 06:29 AM
But see a lot of people say "Ben didn't check down like Byron did against the Skins".

Well Ben didn't have a checkdown like Byron did in that game. A lot of the time the RB is in pass protection for Ben, and isn't a checkdown option.

That's why I keep telling people to watch games every chance they can. People have a tendency to remember things differently than how they actually happened.

Ben checks down plenty when he has the opportunity to do so.

grotonsteel
06-23-2009, 12:14 PM
Manning, "i.e. excellent football intellegence, leads by example and demands excellence from his team mates".


Do you want Big Ben to blame his O-line like Peyton does after a playoff loss?

RuthlessBurgher
06-23-2009, 12:34 PM
Passer Ratings are not percentages, since percentages are derived from one hundred. In Roethlisberger's games with a perfect passer rating, did he have 158.3%?

It would also help if the names of Donovan McNabb, Philip Rivers, Matt Hasselbeck, Matt Schaub, Jason Campbell, and JaMarcus Russell correctly. Such spelling would reduce your passer rating to 80%. :P

100$handshake
06-23-2009, 02:45 PM
It's too bad the explainations are arn't objective. I think intelligent and fair arguements could have been made to support the rankings. But, this just reads like a fan rant.

He focused only on Ben's good attributes. Then only looked at the negitives for Brady and Payton. He also made some pretty unprofessional comments.

It would have seemed more legit if he added some negitives about Ben "i.e. sometimes gets burned for neglecting the checkdown to try to make the big play" or added some positives about Brady "excellent leader, has played well in important games and led game winning drives on the biggest stage" and Manning, "i.e. excellent football intellegence, leads by example and demands excellence from his team mates".

By ignoring Ben's issues and Brady and Manning's good points, this makes it look like you can't logically put Ben at the top of the list. I think it reflects poorly on the arguement (and the writer). It's a shame, because I think a reasonable arguement could be made for these rankings.

Excellent observation when it comes to mrsmartmonies. As a writer or an interviewer he tends to slant everything to support his own arguments. If he has Brady and Manning rated #2 and 3 then why focus on their negatives other than to support an off the wall opinion? It's basically the Mark Madden technique. Smartmonies does give excellent opinions on gambling lines and such but he has no ability to write or give interviews like a national personality.

feltdizz
06-23-2009, 02:55 PM
But see a lot of people say "Ben didn't check down like Byron did against the Skins".

Well Ben didn't have a checkdown like Byron did in that game. A lot of the time the RB is in pass protection for Ben, and isn't a checkdown option.

That's why I keep telling people to watch games every chance they can. People have a tendency to remember things differently than how they actually happened.

Ben checks down plenty when he has the opportunity to do so.

I disagree... Bryon came in and exposed the lack of reps Ben was taking during the week in that Washington game. Byron came in and we marched straight down the field...

After Ben went back to practicing the next week he was checking down like a champ and never looked back.

Northern_Blitz
06-23-2009, 02:57 PM
Manning, "i.e. excellent football intellegence, leads by example and demands excellence from his team mates".


Do you want Big Ben to blame his O-line like Peyton does after a playoff loss?

I said that I think Ben could/should be ranked first. But this rating was clearly done by a homer. All positives for Ben, all negitives for Brady & Manning. I think that diminishes the legitimate arguements that could be made for putting Ben first.

To your specific point. I think Manning is the hardest working starting QB in the league. I think that Manning's work ethic and success has earned his team mates respect, so they'll listen when he gives them critisism. Sometimes I think he goes too far and throws guys under the bus, but even then I bet his guys listen to him.

Acknowldeging that other QBs have strengths doesn't diminish Ben. Acknowledging that Ben has weaknesses (fewer than almost any other QB IMO) doesn't mean that he isn't the QB I'd want for my team. :HeadBanger If you don't like the weakness I gave, how about "high risk/reward playing style leads to many hits and loss of time due to injury". Significant loss of time by an all star QB is bad for a team (ask NE). That's a weakness of Ben - but it has to be balanced against the strength of keeping plays alive and belief that a play can always be made.

Saying this doesn't mean I don't like Ben, or that I think he's bad. It just means that like every other QB he has strengths and weaknesses. You have to try look at both objectively if you're going to rank players.

feltdizz
06-23-2009, 03:39 PM
Monies would cut off his hand before he would write a negative about Ben's game.

stlrz d
06-23-2009, 06:07 PM
But see a lot of people say "Ben didn't check down like Byron did against the Skins".

Well Ben didn't have a checkdown like Byron did in that game. A lot of the time the RB is in pass protection for Ben, and isn't a checkdown option.

That's why I keep telling people to watch games every chance they can. People have a tendency to remember things differently than how they actually happened.

Ben checks down plenty when he has the opportunity to do so.

I disagree... Bryon came in and exposed the lack of reps Ben was taking during the week in that Washington game. Byron came in and we marched straight down the field...

After Ben went back to practicing the next week he was checking down like a champ and never looked back.

You're talking about one game dude. I'm talking about Ben's entire career.

Lambert
06-23-2009, 09:23 PM
Monies would cut off his hand before he would write a negative about Ben's game.

Ben made him a lot of money. I heard he started pounding the Steelers in 04 as soon as Ben took over the team.

Lambert
06-23-2009, 09:24 PM
[quote="Northern_Blitz":246mlns5]It's too bad the explainations are arn't objective. I think intelligent and fair arguements could have been made to support the rankings. But, this just reads like a fan rant.

He focused only on Ben's good attributes. Then only looked at the negitives for Brady and Payton. He also made some pretty unprofessional comments.

It would have seemed more legit if he added some negitives about Ben "i.e. sometimes gets burned for neglecting the checkdown to try to make the big play" or added some positives about Brady "excellent leader, has played well in important games and led game winning drives on the biggest stage" and Manning, "i.e. excellent football intellegence, leads by example and demands excellence from his team mates".

By ignoring Ben's issues and Brady and Manning's good points, this makes it look like you can't logically put Ben at the top of the list. I think it reflects poorly on the arguement (and the writer). It's a shame, because I think a reasonable arguement could be made for these rankings.

Excellent observation when it comes to mrsmartmonies. As a writer or an interviewer he tends to slant everything to support his own arguments. If he has Brady and Manning rated #2 and 3 then why focus on their negatives other than to support an off the wall opinion? It's basically the Mark Madden technique. Smartmonies does give excellent opinions on gambling lines and such but he has no ability to write or give interviews like a national personality.[/quote:246mlns5]

He's not a Journalist. Did you like his Interview with Whisenhunt?

RuthlessBurgher
06-23-2009, 09:30 PM
[quote="Northern_Blitz":30x3hnly]It's too bad the explainations are arn't objective. I think intelligent and fair arguements could have been made to support the rankings. But, this just reads like a fan rant.

He focused only on Ben's good attributes. Then only looked at the negitives for Brady and Payton. He also made some pretty unprofessional comments.

It would have seemed more legit if he added some negitives about Ben "i.e. sometimes gets burned for neglecting the checkdown to try to make the big play" or added some positives about Brady "excellent leader, has played well in important games and led game winning drives on the biggest stage" and Manning, "i.e. excellent football intellegence, leads by example and demands excellence from his team mates".

By ignoring Ben's issues and Brady and Manning's good points, this makes it look like you can't logically put Ben at the top of the list. I think it reflects poorly on the arguement (and the writer). It's a shame, because I think a reasonable arguement could be made for these rankings.

Excellent observation when it comes to mrsmartmonies. As a writer or an interviewer he tends to slant everything to support his own arguments. If he has Brady and Manning rated #2 and 3 then why focus on their negatives other than to support an off the wall opinion? It's basically the Mark Madden technique. Smartmonies does give excellent opinions on gambling lines and such but he has no ability to write or give interviews like a national personality.

He's not a Journalist. Did you like his Interview with Whisenhunt?[/quote:30x3hnly]

We already discussed your interview...excuse me, I mean "his" interview...in another thread when one of our actual posters here pointed it out (instead of you coming here only as an attempt to draw traffic to postgameheroes and/or to pat yourself on the back...I mean pat his back...oh, whatever, Dutch Boy)

http://planetsteelers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6876&p=81059&hilit=whisenhunt#p81059

Flasteel
06-23-2009, 10:16 PM
[quote="Northern_Blitz":1kjfevh3]It's too bad the explainations are arn't objective. I think intelligent and fair arguements could have been made to support the rankings. But, this just reads like a fan rant.

He focused only on Ben's good attributes. Then only looked at the negitives for Brady and Payton. He also made some pretty unprofessional comments.

It would have seemed more legit if he added some negitives about Ben "i.e. sometimes gets burned for neglecting the checkdown to try to make the big play" or added some positives about Brady "excellent leader, has played well in important games and led game winning drives on the biggest stage" and Manning, "i.e. excellent football intellegence, leads by example and demands excellence from his team mates".

By ignoring Ben's issues and Brady and Manning's good points, this makes it look like you can't logically put Ben at the top of the list. I think it reflects poorly on the arguement (and the writer). It's a shame, because I think a reasonable arguement could be made for these rankings.

Excellent observation when it comes to mrsmartmonies. As a writer or an interviewer he tends to slant everything to support his own arguments. If he has Brady and Manning rated #2 and 3 then why focus on their negatives other than to support an off the wall opinion? It's basically the Mark Madden technique. Smartmonies does give excellent opinions on gambling lines and such but he has no ability to write or give interviews like a national personality.

He's not a Journalist. Did you like his Interview with Whisenhunt?

We already discussed your interview...excuse me, I mean "his" interview...in another thread when one of our actual posters here pointed it out (instead of you coming here only as an attempt to draw traffic to postgameheroes and/or to pat yourself on the back...I mean pat his back...oh, whatever, Dutch Boy)

http://planetsteelers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6876&p=81059&hilit=whisenhunt#p81059[/quote:1kjfevh3]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

stlrz d
06-23-2009, 11:22 PM
For those who haven't caught on yet, Lambert & Ohiosteelfan are both alternate users created by MSM.

Jom112
06-23-2009, 11:35 PM
Monies would cut off his hand before he would write a negative about Ben's game.

Ben made him a lot of money. I heard he started pounding the Steelers in 04 as soon as Ben took over the team.

I heard he thought the Steelers would do horribly this past season and not make the playoffs or even win 8 games... :stirpot

eniparadoxgma
06-24-2009, 12:22 AM
Wow. So the MSM aliases are coming back into fashion eh?

Kill it before it spreads.

Lambert
06-24-2009, 12:41 AM
No, I'm not MSM. :roll: But his interview with Whisenhunt is over at Dagger's site. Very good interview.

Lambert
06-24-2009, 12:43 AM
Monies would cut off his hand before he would write a negative about Ben's game.

Ben made him a lot of money. I heard he started pounding the Steelers in 04 as soon as Ben took over the team.

I heard he thought the Steelers would do horribly this past season and not make the playoffs or even win 8 games... :stirpot

http://smartmoniesclub.com/modules/newb ... 21&forum=4 (http://smartmoniesclub.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=321&forum=4)

10-0 in the playoffs.

Flasteel
06-24-2009, 01:06 AM
Monies would cut off his hand before he would write a negative about Ben's game.

Ben made him a lot of money. I heard he started pounding the Steelers in 04 as soon as Ben took over the team.

I heard he thought the Steelers would do horribly this past season and not make the playoffs or even win 8 games... :stirpot

http://smartmoniesclub.com/modules/newb ... 21&forum=4 (http://smartmoniesclub.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=321&forum=4)

10-0 in the playoffs.

Since Wydo is the only member of that site, it stands to reason he is the only one who would have knowlege of such a claim. Therefore I surmise that you are in fact MSM.

If by some chance everyone here is wrong, you have started crotch-sniffing him while you still have a single-digit post count. Perhaps the only thing worse than MSM is some blind minion who has been unleashed on us to spread his nauseating drivel.

Either way... :loser

Lambert
06-24-2009, 01:18 AM
Monies would cut off his hand before he would write a negative about Ben's game.

Ben made him a lot of money. I heard he started pounding the Steelers in 04 as soon as Ben took over the team.

I heard he thought the Steelers would do horribly this past season and not make the playoffs or even win 8 games... :stirpot

http://smartmoniesclub.com/modules/newb ... 21&forum=4 (http://smartmoniesclub.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=321&forum=4)

10-0 in the playoffs.

Since Wydo is the only member of that site, it stands to reason he is the only one who would have knowlege of such a claim. Therefore I surmise that you are in fact MSM.




2008 NFL playoff picks SmartMonies 1802 views

Looks like 1802 different IP addresses were following his Playoffs picks.

Not Bad.

AngryAsian
06-24-2009, 05:12 AM
Regardless of what alias one might use to disguise their true/original identity, once you are banned you are banned... you'll soon be shown the door.

feltdizz
06-24-2009, 05:08 PM
good ole MSM and his aliases.. you would think he would be smart enough to bash MSM or not promote MSM when he tries to act like he isn't him..

dude is always saying "I'm not MSM but his interview was great.. it's at so and so's sight.." LOL!!!!

Lambert
06-24-2009, 06:26 PM
good ole MSM and his aliases.. you would think he would be smart enough to bash MSM or not promote MSM when he tries to act like he isn't him..

dude is always saying "I'm not MSM but his interview was great.. it's at so and so's sight.." LOL!!!!

:Hater

eniparadoxgma
06-24-2009, 09:38 PM
good ole MSM and his aliases.. you would think he would be smart enough to bash MSM or not promote MSM when he tries to act like he isn't him..

dude is always saying "I'm not MSM but his interview was great.. it's at so and so's sight.." LOL!!!!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

papillon
06-24-2009, 09:52 PM
For those who haven't caught on yet, Lambert & Ohiosteelfan are both alternate users created by MSM.

Your right. :P

Pappy

Lambert
06-24-2009, 10:02 PM
For those who haven't caught on yet, Lambert & Ohiosteelfan are both alternate users created by MSM.

Your right. :P

Pappy

You're

papillon
06-24-2009, 10:13 PM
For those who haven't caught on yet, Lambert & Ohiosteelfan are both alternate users created by MSM.

Your right. :P

Pappy

You're

Some of us venture over to stillernation.com you should drop by and chat it up with the folks over there. They'd love to have you're knowledge of football and the Steelers on the board.

Pappy