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birtikidis
04-26-2009, 08:53 PM
how do you grade our draft this year?
I give it an A
I especially love the picks of
Frank the Tank
and Ziggy Hood

decleater
04-26-2009, 08:58 PM
I agree, put me down for an A grade too! Hood & Summers are great picks! We just got younger on the DL and have a back who can get that short yardage especially down near the goal line.

birtikidis
04-26-2009, 09:01 PM
I also think that Shipley was a steal at that point in the draft.

decleater
04-26-2009, 09:05 PM
I also think that Shipley was a steal at that point in the draft.
Yep, we snagged the Rimington trophy winning center in round 7! Unbelievable!

AkronSteel
04-26-2009, 09:38 PM
I will go B+

I think they did a solid job of addressing their needs and covering depth issues in the later rounds but I think they should have been more aggressive in moving around to get players that they had targeted. I don't see more than 5-6 of these guys making the final roster so why not use your extra picks to move around and get the players that you want. It seemed we got caught waiting and watching certain guys go off the board right before us that would have been good fits here.

:2c

Oviedo
04-26-2009, 10:01 PM
I will go B+

I think they did a solid job of addressing their needs and covering depth issues in the later rounds but I think they should have been more aggressive in moving around to get players that they had targeted. I don't see more than 5-6 of these guys making the final roster so why not use your extra picks to move around and get the players that you want. It seemed we got caught waiting and watching certain guys go off the board right before us that would have been good fits here.

:2c

I would agree and only not give them an "A" because I don't think we got the answer we needed at NT.

Every other need was met with a good solid player who doesn't have to be rushed into the line up and will get a year to develop. This was a great job by the FO.

AkronSteel
04-26-2009, 10:04 PM
I will go B+

I think they did a solid job of addressing their needs and covering depth issues in the later rounds but I think they should have been more aggressive in moving around to get players that they had targeted. I don't see more than 5-6 of these guys making the final roster so why not use your extra picks to move around and get the players that you want. It seemed we got caught waiting and watching certain guys go off the board right before us that would have been good fits here.

:2c

I would agree and only not give them an "A" because I don't think we got the answer we needed at NT.

Every other need was met with a good solid player who doesn't have to be rushed into the line up and will get a year to develop. This was a great job by the FO.

:Agree

We did need to find the long term answer @ NT and we did not. I would have liked to have gotten Terrance Taylor where Burnett or Summers were taken but hey you can't have everything. The FO did a fabulous job overall!!!

papillon
04-26-2009, 10:06 PM
Steelers given a B- grade (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-04-26-draft-grades_N.htm) by USA Today and the Patriots an "A". :wft

Pappy

Vindrow
04-26-2009, 10:09 PM
I would give the Steelers a "B" for this draft.

NorthCoast
04-26-2009, 10:18 PM
For the number of picks they had and where those picks were, anything less than an 'A' for the Cheatriots would have been a huge shock.

Djfan
04-26-2009, 10:21 PM
I really can't find anything to complain about at all. I guess that means "A". It seems that honestly any of the guys taken could make the roster.

RuthlessBurgher
04-26-2009, 10:30 PM
I also think that Shipley was a steal at that point in the draft.
Yep, we snagged the Rimington trophy winning center in round 7! Unbelievable!

Remember, though, that we took Rimington trophy winning center Marvin Philip in round 6 in the draft after SBXL, and he didn't last. Not saying that will happen with Shipley (I certainly hope not), but the Rimington Trophy does not mean that he skills translate best to the pro game (or else he would have been one of the first round centers, not one of the seventh round centers). I'll be rooting for the kid now that he is a Steeler, though. You can't deny his tenacity out there.

SteelerOfDeVille
04-27-2009, 12:21 AM
I also think that Shipley was a steal at that point in the draft.
Yep, we snagged the Rimington trophy winning center in round 7! Unbelievable!

Remember, though, that we took Rimington trophy winning center Marvin Philip in round 6 in the draft after SBXL, and he didn't last. Not saying that will happen with Shipley (I certainly hope not), but the Rimington Trophy does not mean that he skills translate best to the pro game (or else he would have been one of the first round centers, not one of the seventh round centers). I'll be rooting for the kid now that he is a Steeler, though. You can't deny his tenacity out there.
we got an outland trohpy winner a few years back... Kris Farris...

college awards mean squat...

Oviedo
04-27-2009, 07:59 AM
college awards mean squat...

Just like the opinions and rankings of college players prior to the draft. Shipley has produced on the field in a power conference. I think he will be a solid player.

Oviedo
04-27-2009, 09:39 AM
Walter Football gave us an "A+". Imagine getting an "A+" without Alex Mack :wink: They did rate the selection of Shipley as an "A."


2009 NFL Draft Grade:

It all starts on Draft Day, and as you can see by how talented this class is, there's a reason the Steelers are Super Bowl contenders year in and year out.

Pittsburgh drafted for positions of high value with its first two selections. Evander Hood should be able to take over for Aaron Smith soon, while Kraig Urbik could make a strong push at right guard.

The Steelers made a number of great value picks that filled needs in Day 2, including Mike Wallace (receiver for Hines Ward's eventual departure), Keenan Lewis (corner depth needed), Joe Burnett (more corner depth and return specialist) and Frank Summers (power back). A.Q. Shipley was a steal in Round 7. He could push Justin Hartwig out of the starting center gig.

Grade give on 4/27/09: A+



2009 NFL Draft Picks:

32. Evander Hood, DE/DT, Missouri
Aaron Smith's successor. This is a good spot for Evander Hood, who fills a need. With Alex Mack off the board, this was the right move. (Pick Grade: A)

79. Kraig Urbik, G, Wisconsin
Kraig Urbik is solid value and fills a position of need. Ben Roethlisberger has to love this selection. (Pick Grade: A)

84. Mike Wallace, WR, Ole Miss
The Steelers needed receiving depth. Mike Wallace is a solid talent and presents good value here. Based on these picks, it's no surprise that the Steelers are contenders year in and year out. (Pick Grade: A)

96. Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon State
Keenan Lewis was a fringe second-round prospect and he fills a need. Another very nice choice by the Steelers. (Pick Grade: A)

168. Joe Burnett, CB, Central Florida
Another corner? Well, it's a need, and Joe Burnett fits this draft range. He can also be a return specialist. (Pick Grade: B)

169. Frank Summers, RB, UNLV
I mocked Frank Summers to the Steelers a round later. He can be the power, goal-line back they've been looking for since Jerome Bettis retired. (Pick Grade: B)

205. Ra'Shon Harris, DE/DT, Oregon
More depth up front is never a bad idea. This is Ra'Shon Harris' draft range. (Pick Grade: B)

226. A.Q. Shipley, C, Penn State
One of the top picks in the entire 2009 NFL Draft in terms of draft and positional value. A.Q. Shipley could have been a third-round pick, and he could be an upgrade over Justin Hartwig. (Pick Grade: A)

241. David Johnson, TE, Arkansas State
Heath Miller's contract is coming up, so David Johnson is a bit of insurance. Johnson provides OK depth here. (Pick Grade: B)

flippy
04-27-2009, 09:41 AM
I can't wait to find out if we find the next james harrison or willie parker today :D

MaxAMillion
04-27-2009, 09:53 AM
I give it a B+. I absolutely love the Keenan Lewis pick. I had the Steelers taking him in the third round. He has the size and the long arms that teams look for in a corner. He lasted until the third round because his speed is in question. I think he will see the field this year. I also like the Wallace pick because I think he will be a Nate Washington type of player all over again. He looked good in the Senior Bowl. Wallace is not a polished route runner, but he has tremendous speed (he can also return kicks so that is a bonus).

I would have liked one OT (Cadogan sat their the entire draft) but I am more than satisfied overall. I think this draft potentially has 4 or maybe even 5 starters in it. You can't ask for much more than that.

frankthetank1
04-27-2009, 11:00 AM
Steelers given a B- grade (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-04-26-draft-grades_N.htm) by USA Today and the Patriots an "A". :wft

Pappy

an a for the pats? they selected a nt high 2nd round, did they forget about wilfork? they also traded hobbs their best cb and took tate who tore his acl and mcl last season and also failed a drug test right in front of wallace who clocked the 2nd fastest 40 time at the combine and holds all the return records at ole miss. yup much better draft then the steelers :lol: :lol:

BradshawsHairdresser
04-27-2009, 03:21 PM
My initial impression of this draft is to give it a wait and "C".

I like Hood, but am concerned about whether he will be able to contribute much on this defense for now.

I know many of you think Urbik is the answer at RG, but I'm not so sure.

I liked the picks of Shipley and Burnett for their value at those rounds. And Summers seems like the right player to fill a glaring need.

As far as Wallace, Lewis, and Harris, I hope they all prove to be gems, but I'm not really excited about any of them. Johnson will have a tough time making the team, IMO.

I can't believe, NO help at OT, with both Starks and Colon down to 1 year left.

papillon
04-27-2009, 03:54 PM
My initial impression of this draft is to give it a wait and "C".

I like Hood, but am concerned about whether he will be able to contribute much on this defense for now.

I know many of you think Urbik is the answer at RG, but I'm not so sure.

I liked the picks of Shipley and Burnett for their value at those rounds. And Summers seems like the right player to fill a glaring need.

As far as Wallace, Lewis, and Harris, I hope they all prove to be gems, but I'm not really excited about any of them. Johnson will have a tough time making the team, IMO.

I can't believe, NO help at OT, with both Starks and Colon down to 1 year left.

I think Hood will earn his snaps as a pass rusher this year and that's about it.
Urbik may not be the answer, but, Stapleton isn't either.
Hartwig is barely better than Mahan; so, I like Shipley at some point this upcoming season. He's also very intelligent, which could help with the center protection calls. Shipley can also long snap.

No OT help leads me to believe that the Hills experiment is coming along nicely. That's the only explanation I can think of for what appears to be a glaring omission. Or, I suppose, a long term deal with Max is in the making.

Pappy

Lebsteel
04-27-2009, 05:56 PM
My initial impression of this draft is to give it a wait and "C".

I like Hood, but am concerned about whether he will be able to contribute much on this defense for now.

I know many of you think Urbik is the answer at RG, but I'm not so sure.

I liked the picks of Shipley and Burnett for their value at those rounds. And Summers seems like the right player to fill a glaring need.

As far as Wallace, Lewis, and Harris, I hope they all prove to be gems, but I'm not really excited about any of them. Johnson will have a tough time making the team, IMO.

I can't believe, NO help at OT, with both Starks and Colon down to 1 year left.

I think Hood will earn his snaps as a pass rusher this year and that's about it.
Urbik may not be the answer, but, Stapleton isn't either.
Hartwig is barely better than Mahan; so, I like Shipley at some point this upcoming season. He's also very intelligent, which could help with the center protection calls. Shipley can also long snap.

No OT help leads me to believe that the Hills experiment is coming along nicely. That's the only explanation I can think of for what appears to be a glaring omission. Or, I suppose, a long term deal with Max is in the making.

Pappy

Pappy, you and I are thinking similar thoughts today. I'm hoping Hills is ready to step in next year at RT and maybe Starks takes a long-term security over short term gain.

papillon
04-27-2009, 09:54 PM
My initial impression of this draft is to give it a wait and "C".

I like Hood, but am concerned about whether he will be able to contribute much on this defense for now.

I know many of you think Urbik is the answer at RG, but I'm not so sure.

I liked the picks of Shipley and Burnett for their value at those rounds. And Summers seems like the right player to fill a glaring need.

As far as Wallace, Lewis, and Harris, I hope they all prove to be gems, but I'm not really excited about any of them. Johnson will have a tough time making the team, IMO.

I can't believe, NO help at OT, with both Starks and Colon down to 1 year left.

I think Hood will earn his snaps as a pass rusher this year and that's about it.
Urbik may not be the answer, but, Stapleton isn't either.
Hartwig is barely better than Mahan; so, I like Shipley at some point this upcoming season. He's also very intelligent, which could help with the center protection calls. Shipley can also long snap.

No OT help leads me to believe that the Hills experiment is coming along nicely. That's the only explanation I can think of for what appears to be a glaring omission. Or, I suppose, a long term deal with Max is in the making.

Pappy

Pappy, you and I are thinking similar thoughts today. I'm hoping Hills is ready to step in next year at RT and maybe Starks takes a long-term security over short term gain.

At some point he (Starks) will take the long term deal, because he knows the Steelers don't negotiate contracts once the season starts. If he isn't under contract by then he's one injury away from having the gravy train come to a halt. He'll sign, he may believe he has more leverage than he does, but, he'll sign (if he's smart and if the Steelers are offering him a long term deal).

I guess the possibility exists that the Steelers have no intention of signing him and will roll the dice in next year's draft. Bad odds in my book, but, I guess it's an option.

Pappy

NorthCoast
04-27-2009, 10:23 PM
Guys worried about not taking an OT in this draft need to consider one thing. With all of the OT taken in the last two drafts where will the vets end up? That's right, we should be seeing some come on the market beginning this season and next. So all is not lost if we can find a decent FA pick up next year.

SteelerOfDeVille
04-27-2009, 11:16 PM
My initial impression of this draft is to give it a wait and "C".

I like Hood, but am concerned about whether he will be able to contribute much on this defense for now.

I know many of you think Urbik is the answer at RG, but I'm not so sure.

I liked the picks of Shipley and Burnett for their value at those rounds. And Summers seems like the right player to fill a glaring need.

As far as Wallace, Lewis, and Harris, I hope they all prove to be gems, but I'm not really excited about any of them. Johnson will have a tough time making the team, IMO.

I can't believe, NO help at OT, with both Starks and Colon down to 1 year left.
i would have liked Trevor Canfield in the 7th instead of the TE... I like Canfield... or one of the ILBs that weren't taken would have been nice. the kid from LSU was a projected 2nd rounder by many.