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Chadman
03-09-2009, 02:55 AM
OT Ephriam Sallam & OG Floyd Womack.

Both are experienced, both offer viable starting options, both should come at decent prices.

With McFadden moving on, and with an aging defensive line, and with such a young OL, grabbing a couple of experienced guys to offer depth/challenge for a starting role would be excellent.

This would really open up the options for the Steelers early in the draft, allowing them to grab as many talented players as possible, without having to reach to fill holes in the team.

Discipline of Steel
03-09-2009, 06:49 AM
It would be nice to see it Chadman, anything to make it easier to pick a CB in the 1st or 2nd round. A top rookie will fill in nicely after BMacs departure to the desert.

Oviedo
03-09-2009, 08:10 AM
It would be nice to see it Chadman, anything to make it easier to pick a CB in the 1st or 2nd round. A top rookie will fill in nicely after BMacs departure to the desert.

I think it is more likely we look at CBs in FA like Leigh Bodden or Patrick Surtain. That way we stay focused on OL and DL in the draft.

Jooser
03-09-2009, 09:09 AM
I just don't think Leigh Bodden is the same calibur as Bryant McFadden. I woulda rather re-signed BMac instead. We may see a CB selected in round one, but then again, I'm like Asian, in that I'm not one of those draft specialists like some of you guys. That's not sarcasm, it's respect.

-Joos

pfelix73
03-09-2009, 09:19 AM
Well, with McFadden now departing the SB champions, that opens the doot for a number of possibilities early on in the draft.

Folks, don't get too overly optimistic about this team picking heavily on the OL/ DL like many did last year. You might just be letting yourselves in for a letdown on draft day. Sure, we'll pick a few, but some mock drafts I've seen on here has us picking a OL or DL back and forth for the first 4 rounds! All I'm saying is when you put these mocks together be a little bit more realistic.

Although I like the option of adding a Ron Brace with our #32 pick, I'd seriously consider a CB now too. Especially if one of those guys chosen to be picked higher up the board would fall down.

Darius Butler would be a nice addition to this team. And it would fill 2 needs.

pfelix73
03-09-2009, 09:20 AM
doot=door

flippy
03-09-2009, 05:33 PM
OT Ephriam Sallam & OG Floyd Womack.

Both are experienced, both offer viable starting options, both should come at decent prices.

With McFadden moving on, and with an aging defensive line, and with such a young OL, grabbing a couple of experienced guys to offer depth/challenge for a starting role would be excellent.

This would really open up the options for the Steelers early in the draft, allowing them to grab as many talented players as possible, without having to reach to fill holes in the team.


Pork Chop

flippy
03-09-2009, 05:44 PM
I was thinking at the beginning of FA that we'd look at some of these guys - khalif barnes, shaun cody, ronald curry, joey galloway, bobby engram, keiwan ratliff, and mike wright.

steeler_george
03-09-2009, 06:12 PM
This is why Bmac wasn't signed. His 5 Million, could be used on more valued needs.

3rd Wr?

OL-Back up/potential starter on?

DE-Back up?

CB- 4th Back up?

S- Back up?

flippy
03-09-2009, 07:45 PM
all those other positions are relatively easy to find compared to a starting CB.

i really think tomlin had an issue with his attitude. same issue tomlin had with anthony smith.

the steelers said bmac was a priority to help him find a job.

he got 2 years $10M.

we clearly didn't want him.

that's pretty cheap.

Chavezz
03-09-2009, 08:35 PM
I see Khalif Barnes name tossed around quite a bit, just an FYI on him.

The Raiders and the 9ers didn't want him. I've heard their fans say the same things about him that we say about Colon.

flippy
03-10-2009, 06:22 AM
I see Khalif Barnes name tossed around quite a bit, just an FYI on him.

The Raiders and the 9ers didn't want him. I've heard their fans say the same things about him that we say about Colon.

he's not as good as colon right now.

but he's young. and could have some upside. and probably can be had for a very low price.

BigBen2112
03-10-2009, 10:39 AM
Last season Khalif Barnes gave up the most sacks in the NFL for a LT...a couple of the worst OLs in the NFL (even worse than our own) dont want him...dont really think he makes sense for us right now.

About Ephriam Salaam & Floyd Womack I dont really want either. Womack hasn't been able to start a full season worth of games since...well never...he'd never had one season where he's played in all 16 games, let alone started all 16 games. In his 8 seasons he could have played in, if healthy, 128 games...he's played in 90...or about 70% of the games he was eligible for. Not someone I really want for our OL. Salaam? Again, he played on one of the worst OLs in the NFL and lost his starting job and couldn't perform there. I dont even think he fits the role of swing-tackle as his ability to play the opposite tackle position is severely lacking.

And about the Steelers drafting OL/DL heavily? We probably wont. If you know draft trends in general you know the Steelers will do a couple certain things...and if you know the Steelers draft trends specifically you can really see that we probably will not go heavy OL/DL. But that doesn't mean you cant pick up a couple players earlier in the draft who have some ability...Kraig Urbik who could virtually immediately start at RG, possibly LG...and the Steelers desperately need a C...Eric Wood in the 2nd (if he's still around) would be a possibility or even Alex Mack in the first (although I dont like it, it might be what's available until we see who else falls). Steelerstrong has all my draft stuff on it.

Selecting a first round CB who isn't named: Malcolm Jenkins (gone), Vontae Davis (gone), or Darius Butler (possibly gone) would be folly. For those of you who dont know much about the draft...look up Kevin Barnes and Victor Harris as 2-3rd round CBs. I will soon be finishing up my full breakdown of the top 20-30 players at each position and which ones are the best fits for the Steelers and where I think they're valued at...again check Steelerstrong for that by the end of this weekend. But the Steelers dont have to take a 1st round CB and honestly there might not be a good value 1st round CB there when we pick. And the 1st round isn't the Steelers problem...its the middle rounds anyways. Avoid reaching in the middle rounds and go for value and the Steelers will be fine.

Oviedo
03-10-2009, 11:05 AM
Last season Khalif Barnes gave up the most sacks in the NFL for a LT...a couple of the worst OLs in the NFL (even worse than our own) dont want him...dont really think he makes sense for us right now.

About Ephriam Salaam & Floyd Womack I dont really want either. Womack hasn't been able to start a full season worth of games since...well never...he'd never had one season where he's played in all 16 games, let alone started all 16 games. In his 8 seasons he could have played in, if healthy, 128 games...he's played in 90...or about 70% of the games he was eligible for. Not someone I really want for our OL. Salaam? Again, he played on one of the worst OLs in the NFL and lost his starting job and couldn't perform there. I dont even think he fits the role of swing-tackle as his ability to play the opposite tackle position is severely lacking.

And about the Steelers drafting OL/DL heavily? We probably wont. If you know draft trends in general you know the Steelers will do a couple certain things...and if you know the Steelers draft trends specifically you can really see that we probably will not go heavy OL/DL. But that doesn't mean you cant pick up a couple players earlier in the draft who have some ability...Kraig Urbik who could virtually immediately start at RG, possibly LG...and the Steelers desperately need a C...Eric Wood in the 2nd (if he's still around) would be a possibility or even Alex Mack in the first (although I dont like it, it might be what's available until we see who else falls). Steelerstrong has all my draft stuff on it.

Selecting a first round CB who isn't named: Malcolm Jenkins (gone), Vontae Davis (gone), or Darius Butler (possibly gone) would be folly. For those of you who dont know much about the draft...look up Kevin Barnes and Victor Harris as 2-3rd round CBs. I will soon be finishing up my full breakdown of the top 20-30 players at each position and which ones are the best fits for the Steelers and where I think they're valued at...again check Steelerstrong for that by the end of this weekend. But the Steelers dont have to take a 1st round CB and honestly there might not be a good value 1st round CB there when we pick. And the 1st round isn't the Steelers problem...its the middle rounds anyways. Avoid reaching in the middle rounds and go for value and the Steelers will be fine.

Totally agree about Urbik at Guard. I think he will end up being one of the best out of this draft.

phillyesq
03-11-2009, 04:07 PM
Here is an option that might make sense. The Bears just released Terrance Metcalf. Here is the scouting report from Scouts, Inc.:


Comment: Metcalf is a six-year veteran who has great power and strength at the point of attack. He is a short, powerfully-built player with a low center of gravity. He works with effective pad level to engage defenders well initially off the line of scrimmage, while working his feet to get movement. He has heavy hands to deliver a punch and can stymie defenders early in the play. He can anchor well versus powerful bull rushers or clog up interior gaps with his natural girth and hand use. He is a solid technician who takes good angles and understands leverage and body positioning. Metcalf has good quickness and balance in a limited area, but does show some effectiveness on the second level. He isn't great in space, but once engaged often finishes well. He is an instinctive player who reacts to stunts and blitzes. He can pinball defenders in a limited area. He is a versatile player because he has also played the center position during his career. However, he tends to get lazy at times when he is tired and loses his base, but most often he gives great effort and is a solid football player.

With only Kemo, Stapelton and Hartwig currently under contract, Metcalf could make a lot of sense for interior depth, and should be able to compete with Stapelton at RG. Having another veteran inside to compete while (hopefully) a few young draft picks are groomed on the OL would be great.

Chadman
03-12-2009, 04:01 AM
Add another name to the list that would be a wise FA addition- WR Joe Jurevicius.

Big, with good hands- he could be a good mentor/role model/contributor to the Steelers for a year or two.

Worth bringing in anyway.

Or just sign Galloway...

BigBen2112
03-12-2009, 09:43 AM
Add another name to the list that would be a wise FA addition- WR Joe Jurevicius.

Big, with good hands- he could be a good mentor/role model/contributor to the Steelers for a year or two.

Worth bringing in anyway.

Or just sign Galloway...

Dude Jurevicius had 7 knee surgeries in like a 12-14 month span and is unlikely to be able to play the game of football again...why bring him in again?

BigBen2112
03-12-2009, 09:46 AM
Here is an option that might make sense. The Bears just released Terrance Metcalf. Here is the scouting report from Scouts, Inc.:


Comment: Metcalf is a six-year veteran who has great power and strength at the point of attack. He is a short, powerfully-built player with a low center of gravity. He works with effective pad level to engage defenders well initially off the line of scrimmage, while working his feet to get movement. He has heavy hands to deliver a punch and can stymie defenders early in the play. He can anchor well versus powerful bull rushers or clog up interior gaps with his natural girth and hand use. He is a solid technician who takes good angles and understands leverage and body positioning. Metcalf has good quickness and balance in a limited area, but does show some effectiveness on the second level. He isn't great in space, but once engaged often finishes well. He is an instinctive player who reacts to stunts and blitzes. He can pinball defenders in a limited area. He is a versatile player because he has also played the center position during his career. However, he tends to get lazy at times when he is tired and loses his base, but most often he gives great effort and is a solid football player.

With only Kemo, Stapelton and Hartwig currently under contract, Metcalf could make a lot of sense for interior depth, and should be able to compete with Stapelton at RG. Having another veteran inside to compete while (hopefully) a few young draft picks are groomed on the OL would be great.

Just an FYI: Metcalf has been in the league 8 years...which means he could have played in 128 games, but he managed to only get into or be active for 84 of them...and of those 84 he only started 25. Not sure if he's the guy we need to help the OL.

phillyesq
03-12-2009, 09:50 AM
Here is an option that might make sense. The Bears just released Terrance Metcalf. Here is the scouting report from Scouts, Inc.:


Comment: Metcalf is a six-year veteran who has great power and strength at the point of attack. He is a short, powerfully-built player with a low center of gravity. He works with effective pad level to engage defenders well initially off the line of scrimmage, while working his feet to get movement. He has heavy hands to deliver a punch and can stymie defenders early in the play. He can anchor well versus powerful bull rushers or clog up interior gaps with his natural girth and hand use. He is a solid technician who takes good angles and understands leverage and body positioning. Metcalf has good quickness and balance in a limited area, but does show some effectiveness on the second level. He isn't great in space, but once engaged often finishes well. He is an instinctive player who reacts to stunts and blitzes. He can pinball defenders in a limited area. He is a versatile player because he has also played the center position during his career. However, he tends to get lazy at times when he is tired and loses his base, but most often he gives great effort and is a solid football player.

With only Kemo, Stapelton and Hartwig currently under contract, Metcalf could make a lot of sense for interior depth, and should be able to compete with Stapelton at RG. Having another veteran inside to compete while (hopefully) a few young draft picks are groomed on the OL would be great.

Just an FYI: Metcalf has been in the league 8 years...which means he could have played in 128 games, but he managed to only get into or be active for 84 of them...and of those 84 he only started 25. Not sure if he's the guy we need to help the OL.

I certainly don't think he is a savior or long term solution for the offensive line. Just more somebody that could provide depth.

frankthetank1
03-12-2009, 10:02 AM
i dont understand why the steelers have no interest in mike furrey. i would much rather have furrey as the #3 wr than galloway. Furrey is a very good #3 or #4 wr to have and he wouldnt cost anything. He played well for an awful team