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steelcityrules!!
02-22-2009, 01:20 AM
It's great to be selecting at #32 folks, and so far in my draft research it seems we could yet again grab tough, smart, talented players at the end of each round. Our drafting of the skill players early last year and the wealth of OL and DL talent in this draft will no doubt have some big uglies donning the black and gold on day one. If B-mac stays, great... but i think CB will be addressed by round 4. (I won't pimp the dire need for CB like I have in the past, no-one in the FO ever listens) :) anyhow, take a peek at this first attempt and give some feedback, here is the first 4 rounds and the extra 3rd comp.

#32: Alex Mack, OC/IOL No big surprise as most see him as a target for us, but this reminds me of the heath miller pick. Talent, best at his position, leader.

#64: Evander Hood, DE. might not be around for this pick, but has been projected mid second to end of 3rd. Love the size and intangibles on this guy. A real stout 34 DE who can collapse the pocket and shut down runners, just what we need so james and lamarr can do their thing.

#96: Patrick Chung, S. Do you see a theme here? guy is another leader with the tools and smarts to be an instant contributor to the special teams game. He is considered a hybrid safety by some, can cover the middle and stuff the run in the box. he's got the instincts and talent to be immediate depth so the anthony smith experiment can be euthanized.

#96 B: Troy Kropog, OT. bit of a project, but can pass protect and that skill set is at a premium for us right now. Give him a year or two getting stronger, working behind starks and possibly hills, and we might just get a gem for Faneca leaving town.

#128: Joe Burnett, CB. This one is interesting. I have seen him all over the place on mocks and draft boards, but he's a talent. he is a ball-hawk who will support the run, but can also return kicks. All around talent who would be a welcome nickle CB and punt return specialist if B-mac rides the piles of money to another zip code.

MeetJoeGreene
02-22-2009, 09:14 AM
that is an excellent mock draft.

Do you really think Kropog will last that long?

steelcityrules!!
02-22-2009, 09:27 AM
that is an excellent mock draft.

Do you really think Kropog will last that long?

I guess in the last 5 years of me trying to guess things and then watch what unfolds, anything can happen. It's possible that Kropog would be the pick at #64 and Hood could wind up going late 3rd.

from what i have been looking at, not sure that Kropog is going to get included in that first run on OT's. I honestly haven't seen a lot of him, some draft boards that I've looked at have him right around the 95-120 range, late 3rd or 4th rounder. some have him late 2nd to 3rd.

Oviedo
02-22-2009, 01:42 PM
I 'd be happy with this but don't think Kropog lasts that long.

I really like the Chung and Burnett picks. Only question on Chung is whether he is a strong safety or free safety. If the latter then a good pick however if a SS then probably should go OL or DL with that pick.

If you continue to flush this out I'd then go DL in Round 5 with a guy like Will Johnson from Michigan, Zach Potter from Nebraska or Kyle Moore from USC.

steelcityrules!!
03-01-2009, 03:47 PM
after stewing on my first mock draft for a week or so, I'm having second thoughts. I see that we are attempting to keep our line in place as FA has started, and it minimizes our immediate need for a starter on the line via the draft.

I am having more difficulty this year than most in trying to pinpoint a football player that we would be specifically targeting at #32. Last year we stayed pat in both early rounds and talents fell into our lap.

here goes-

#32- Evander Hood, DE/DT Mizzou. A good combine has him anywhere from mid second to late 1st, lets just grab the ideal candidate to back up our ends, and eventually replace keisel. He's just a leader, a winner, and the perfect size and ability for the 34 DE position.

#64- Andy Levitre, OT/OG Oregon State. Levitre is tough and plays with a mean streak.Levitre also shows solid lateral agility as he has most of his experience on the outside as a tackle. That experience at tackle gives him a bit of versatility as he is most likely to move inside to guard at the next level. That ability to bounce outside in a pinch though is a nice trait to have. Great depth, potential starter in a few years and is smart.

#96A- Terrance Taylor, DT/NT Michigan. Taylor is a poor man's Casey Hampton, and would benefit by sitting behind big snack for a couple of seasons before he's ready to take over. We need big depth at that position, seems like a great prospect and the perfect fit in our system.

#96B- Joe Burnett, CB Central Florida./ DeAngelo Smith, CB Cincinnati. Who ever is still on the board at this point, both are strong, rangy CB's who are not only excellent pass defenders, but are willing to come up and stuff the run or blitz.

#128- Dannell Ellerbe, ILB Georgia. Outstanding prospect who's stock has taken a hit with a knee injury his senior season. great depth and we have the luxury of bringing him along slowly to make sure he's healed. immediate use on special teams.

#160- Brannan Southerland, FB Georgia. Why not, this guy is an explosive blocker but also has a nose for short-yardage scores and has above average hands. I see no reason why he can't send carey davis packing after camp

#192- Jonathan Luigs, C Arkansas. Rimington award winner with the frame to add weight. We aren't in dire need for a center, so taking a guy like mack or unger might not be crucial right now. The FO is attempting to keep a majority of the line together, so a guy like Luigs seems logical at this spot. Led the way for mcfadden and jones last year, great value

WoodleyofTroy
03-01-2009, 03:54 PM
after stewing on my first mock draft for a week or so, I'm having second thoughts. I see that we are attempting to keep our line in place as FA has started, and it minimizes our immediate need for a starter on the line via the draft.

I am having more difficulty this year than most in trying to pinpoint a football player that we would be specifically targeting at #32. Last year we stayed pat in both early rounds and talents fell into our lap.

here goes-

#32- Evander Hood, DE/DT Mizzou. A good combine has him anywhere from mid second to late 1st, lets just grab the ideal candidate to back up our ends, and eventually replace keisel. He's just a leader, a winner, and the perfect size and ability for the 34 DE position.

#64- Andy Levitre, OT/OG Oregon State. Levitre is tough and plays with a mean streak.Levitre also shows solid lateral agility as he has most of his experience on the outside as a tackle. That experience at tackle gives him a bit of versatility as he is most likely to move inside to guard at the next level. That ability to bounce outside in a pinch though is a nice trait to have. Great depth, potential starter in a few years and is smart.

#96A- Terrance Taylor, DT/NT Michigan. Taylor is a poor man's Casey Hampton, and would benefit by sitting behind big snack for a couple of seasons before he's ready to take over. We need big depth at that position, seems like a great prospect and the perfect fit in our system.

#96B- Joe Burnett, CB Central Florida./ DeAngelo Smith, CB Cincinnati. Who ever is still on the board at this point, both are strong, rangy CB's who are not only excellent pass defenders, but are willing to come up and stuff the run or blitz.

#128- Dannell Ellerbe, ILB Georgia. Outstanding prospect who's stock has taken a hit with a knee injury his senior season. great depth and we have the luxury of bringing him along slowly to make sure he's healed. immediate use on special teams.

#160- Brannan Southerland, FB Georgia. Why not, this guy is an explosive blocker but also has a nose for short-yardage scores and has above average hands. I see no reason why he can't send carey davis packing after camp

#192- Jonathan Luigs, C Arkansas. Rimington award winner with the frame to add weight. We aren't in dire need for a center, so taking a guy like mack or unger might not be crucial right now. The FO is attempting to keep a majority of the line together, so a guy like Luigs seems logical at this spot. Led the way for mcfadden and jones last year, great value

I'd stick with the first one for sure.

Oviedo
03-01-2009, 03:55 PM
after stewing on my first mock draft for a week or so, I'm having second thoughts. I see that we are attempting to keep our line in place as FA has started, and it minimizes our immediate need for a starter on the line via the draft.

I am having more difficulty this year than most in trying to pinpoint a football player that we would be specifically targeting at #32. Last year we stayed pat in both early rounds and talents fell into our lap.

here goes-

#32- Evander Hood, DE/DT Mizzou. A good combine has him anywhere from mid second to late 1st, lets just grab the ideal candidate to back up our ends, and eventually replace keisel. He's just a leader, a winner, and the perfect size and ability for the 34 DE position.

#64- Andy Levitre, OT/OG Oregon State. Levitre is tough and plays with a mean streak.Levitre also shows solid lateral agility as he has most of his experience on the outside as a tackle. That experience at tackle gives him a bit of versatility as he is most likely to move inside to guard at the next level. That ability to bounce outside in a pinch though is a nice trait to have. Great depth, potential starter in a few years and is smart.

#96A- Terrance Taylor, DT/NT Michigan. Taylor is a poor man's Casey Hampton, and would benefit by sitting behind big snack for a couple of seasons before he's ready to take over. We need big depth at that position, seems like a great prospect and the perfect fit in our system.

#96B- Joe Burnett, CB Central Florida./ DeAngelo Smith, CB Cincinnati. Who ever is still on the board at this point, both are strong, rangy CB's who are not only excellent pass defenders, but are willing to come up and stuff the run or blitz.

#128- Dannell Ellerbe, ILB Georgia. Outstanding prospect who's stock has taken a hit with a knee injury his senior season. great depth and we have the luxury of bringing him along slowly to make sure he's healed. immediate use on special teams.

#160- Brannan Southerland, FB Georgia. Why not, this guy is an explosive blocker but also has a nose for short-yardage scores and has above average hands. I see no reason why he can't send carey davis packing after camp

#192- Jonathan Luigs, C Arkansas. Rimington award winner with the frame to add weight. We aren't in dire need for a center, so taking a guy like mack or unger might not be crucial right now. The FO is attempting to keep a majority of the line together, so a guy like Luigs seems logical at this spot. Led the way for mcfadden and jones last year, great value


Excellent but Luigs will be gone before the 4th round.

steelcityrules!!
03-01-2009, 04:11 PM
after stewing on my first mock draft for a week or so, I'm having second thoughts. I see that we are attempting to keep our line in place as FA has started, and it minimizes our immediate need for a starter on the line via the draft.

I am having more difficulty this year than most in trying to pinpoint a football player that we would be specifically targeting at #32. Last year we stayed pat in both early rounds and talents fell into our lap.

here goes-

#32- Evander Hood, DE/DT Mizzou. A good combine has him anywhere from mid second to late 1st, lets just grab the ideal candidate to back up our ends, and eventually replace keisel. He's just a leader, a winner, and the perfect size and ability for the 34 DE position.

#64- Andy Levitre, OT/OG Oregon State. Levitre is tough and plays with a mean streak.Levitre also shows solid lateral agility as he has most of his experience on the outside as a tackle. That experience at tackle gives him a bit of versatility as he is most likely to move inside to guard at the next level. That ability to bounce outside in a pinch though is a nice trait to have. Great depth, potential starter in a few years and is smart.

#96A- Terrance Taylor, DT/NT Michigan. Taylor is a poor man's Casey Hampton, and would benefit by sitting behind big snack for a couple of seasons before he's ready to take over. We need big depth at that position, seems like a great prospect and the perfect fit in our system.

#96B- Joe Burnett, CB Central Florida./ DeAngelo Smith, CB Cincinnati. Who ever is still on the board at this point, both are strong, rangy CB's who are not only excellent pass defenders, but are willing to come up and stuff the run or blitz.

#128- Dannell Ellerbe, ILB Georgia. Outstanding prospect who's stock has taken a hit with a knee injury his senior season. great depth and we have the luxury of bringing him along slowly to make sure he's healed. immediate use on special teams.

#160- Brannan Southerland, FB Georgia. Why not, this guy is an explosive blocker but also has a nose for short-yardage scores and has above average hands. I see no reason why he can't send carey davis packing after camp

#192- Jonathan Luigs, C Arkansas. Rimington award winner with the frame to add weight. We aren't in dire need for a center, so taking a guy like mack or unger might not be crucial right now. The FO is attempting to keep a majority of the line together, so a guy like Luigs seems logical at this spot. Led the way for mcfadden and jones last year, great value

I'd stick with the first one for sure.

well, I just don't think that the first scenario is as realistic now. I don't see hood being there at #64, I don't see kropog being there around #96.

just my opinion.

steelcityrules!!
03-01-2009, 04:13 PM
after stewing on my first mock draft for a week or so, I'm having second thoughts. I see that we are attempting to keep our line in place as FA has started, and it minimizes our immediate need for a starter on the line via the draft.

I am having more difficulty this year than most in trying to pinpoint a football player that we would be specifically targeting at #32. Last year we stayed pat in both early rounds and talents fell into our lap.

here goes-

#32- Evander Hood, DE/DT Mizzou. A good combine has him anywhere from mid second to late 1st, lets just grab the ideal candidate to back up our ends, and eventually replace keisel. He's just a leader, a winner, and the perfect size and ability for the 34 DE position.

#64- Andy Levitre, OT/OG Oregon State. Levitre is tough and plays with a mean streak.Levitre also shows solid lateral agility as he has most of his experience on the outside as a tackle. That experience at tackle gives him a bit of versatility as he is most likely to move inside to guard at the next level. That ability to bounce outside in a pinch though is a nice trait to have. Great depth, potential starter in a few years and is smart.

#96A- Terrance Taylor, DT/NT Michigan. Taylor is a poor man's Casey Hampton, and would benefit by sitting behind big snack for a couple of seasons before he's ready to take over. We need big depth at that position, seems like a great prospect and the perfect fit in our system.

#96B- Joe Burnett, CB Central Florida./ DeAngelo Smith, CB Cincinnati. Who ever is still on the board at this point, both are strong, rangy CB's who are not only excellent pass defenders, but are willing to come up and stuff the run or blitz.

#128- Dannell Ellerbe, ILB Georgia. Outstanding prospect who's stock has taken a hit with a knee injury his senior season. great depth and we have the luxury of bringing him along slowly to make sure he's healed. immediate use on special teams.

#160- Brannan Southerland, FB Georgia. Why not, this guy is an explosive blocker but also has a nose for short-yardage scores and has above average hands. I see no reason why he can't send carey davis packing after camp

#192- Jonathan Luigs, C Arkansas. Rimington award winner with the frame to add weight. We aren't in dire need for a center, so taking a guy like mack or unger might not be crucial right now. The FO is attempting to keep a majority of the line together, so a guy like Luigs seems logical at this spot. Led the way for mcfadden and jones last year, great value


Excellent but Luigs will be gone before the 4th round.
I think I should have swapped Luigs and southerland, would probably be more realistic.

RuthlessBurgher
03-01-2009, 05:03 PM
I think Luigs is behind Mack and Unger, but ahead of Caldwell and Shipley. In roughly the same class as Wood, I think. I think he goes off the board in the 2nd or 3rd round. All 6 of those guys could be off the board before the end of round 4.

Chadman
03-01-2009, 06:06 PM
2nd mock is excellent- well thought out & close to what Chadman would do.

But- gotta agree- Luigs will be LONG gone by Round 7.

steelcityrules!!
03-01-2009, 07:13 PM
2nd mock is excellent- well thought out & close to what Chadman would do.

But- gotta agree- Luigs will be LONG gone by Round 7.

maybe, but we might take a look at this for hope:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?position=Centers&type=position

I mean, dan mozes went undrafted the year before, he was the rimington award winner as well. mozes was expected to be a 4th-7th rounder i believe.

I do appreciate the feedback fellas

NW Steeler
03-01-2009, 09:57 PM
I watched the Ducks play quite a bit this year and I can tell you one thing, Chung can definitely lay the wood. Much like A. Smith, but I'd venture to say that Chung is a much smarter football player. I really don't know where he fits, he's kind of a cross between a SS and a FS I guess. The knock on him is that he is very good in press coverage, but gets lost in space. Sounds a little more like a SS doesn't it?

Oviedo
03-02-2009, 08:54 AM
I watched the Ducks play quite a bit this year and I can tell you one thing, Chung can definitely lay the wood. Much like A. Smith, but I'd venture to say that Chung is a much smarter football player. I really don't know where he fits, he's kind of a cross between a SS and a FS I guess. The knock on him is that he is very good in press coverage, but gets lost in space. Sounds a little more like a SS doesn't it?

I think you are right about Chung. Everything you read about him sounds like SS not FS mostly because of the lack of strong pass coverage abilities.

He does sound like Anthony Smith with more than one functioning brain cell.

steelcityrules!!
04-25-2009, 10:56 PM
after stewing on my first mock draft for a week or so, I'm having second thoughts. I see that we are attempting to keep our line in place as FA has started, and it minimizes our immediate need for a starter on the line via the draft.

I am having more difficulty this year than most in trying to pinpoint a football player that we would be specifically targeting at #32. Last year we stayed pat in both early rounds and talents fell into our lap.

here goes-

#32- Evander Hood, DE/DT Mizzou. A good combine has him anywhere from mid second to late 1st, lets just grab the ideal candidate to back up our ends, and eventually replace keisel. He's just a leader, a winner, and the perfect size and ability for the 34 DE position.



I should have stuck to my guns back in march. I had a hunch he was going to be a target of ours. With Mack, Vontae davis, wood, and robiskie all taken... hood was the logical choice.

Mel Blount's G
04-25-2009, 11:13 PM
[quote="steelcityrules!!":npmfv5o9]after stewing on my first mock draft for a week or so, I'm having second thoughts. I see that we are attempting to keep our line in place as FA has started, and it minimizes our immediate need for a starter on the line via the draft.

I am having more difficulty this year than most in trying to pinpoint a football player that we would be specifically targeting at #32. Last year we stayed pat in both early rounds and talents fell into our lap.

here goes-

#32- Evander Hood, DE/DT Mizzou. A good combine has him anywhere from mid second to late 1st, lets just grab the ideal candidate to back up our ends, and eventually replace keisel. He's just a leader, a winner, and the perfect size and ability for the 34 DE position.



I should have stuck to my guns back in march. I had a hunch he was going to be a target of ours. With Mack, Vontae davis, wood, and robiskie all taken... hood was the logical choice.[/quote:npmfv5o9]
Robiskie wasn't taken. He went to the crapstains 4 picks after we took Hood. But I'm relieved we picked hood and not robiskie

steelcityrules!!
04-25-2009, 11:30 PM
[quote="steelcityrules!!":1z45nusy][quote="steelcityrules!!":1z45nusy]after stewing on my first mock draft for a week or so, I'm having second thoughts. I see that we are attempting to keep our line in place as FA has started, and it minimizes our immediate need for a starter on the line via the draft.

I am having more difficulty this year than most in trying to pinpoint a football player that we would be specifically targeting at #32. Last year we stayed pat in both early rounds and talents fell into our lap.

here goes-

#32- Evander Hood, DE/DT Mizzou. A good combine has him anywhere from mid second to late 1st, lets just grab the ideal candidate to back up our ends, and eventually replace keisel. He's just a leader, a winner, and the perfect size and ability for the 34 DE position.



I should have stuck to my guns back in march. I had a hunch he was going to be a target of ours. With Mack, Vontae davis, wood, and robiskie all taken... hood was the logical choice.[/quote:1z45nusy]
Robiskie wasn't taken. He went to the crapstains 4 picks after we took Hood. But I'm relieved we picked hood and not robiskie[/quote:1z45nusy]


ohh yea, I think a few too many bottles of suds at the BBQ magically altered my count on that one.

either way, Hood was a good pick I think.