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Iron Shiek
02-12-2009, 12:33 AM
Just got back from the shellacking the US delivered to Mexico at Columbus Crew Stadium. Holy $hit what a game to be at. This was an intense atmosphere. The weather was absolutely nuts, I bolded the part in the column below about the weather but it didn't do it justice. At least it calmed down during the game (the wind didn't). But the atmosphere was great, except for a few Mexican fans doing their best Stain fan imitation and challenging everyone to fights for no reason. 2-0 is a great result starting the final round of qualifying. US is in good shape. Great goals both of them.




U.S. 2-0 Mexico: Bradley sinks El Tri
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Michael Bradley scored twice to lead the United States to a 2-0 victory over Mexico in a World Cup qualifier Wednesday night, preserving the Americans' domination in the series over the last nine years.

"I think everybody on our team was really excited to play tonight," said Bradley, the son of U.S. coach Bob Bradley. "Anytime you play against Mexico, it's special. On top of it, it's for a World Cup qualifier."

On a wet and windy night at Crew Stadium -- under the threat of a tornado watch -- the Americans ran their record to 9-0-2 on U.S. soil against Mexico since 2000. Tickets had sold out in 90 minutes, with many of the 23,776 fans showing up hours before to stand in the rain while waving flags and wearing their national colors.

"It's never easy to beat Mexico," Bob Bradley said. "They're a good team, they have very good players. Our players love these games, the atmosphere. It's ironic that we start this round playing against them. But everyone was excited about it."

After both teams played cautiously at the outset, the Americans finally broke through.

DaMarcus Beasley's corner kick found Landon Donovan at the far side of the 6-yard box, with Donovan heading it back into the scrum. Oguchi Onyewu's header was stopped by diving Mexico goaltender Oswaldo Sanchez, but the rebound came right into the path of Bradley, who kicked it in from 6 yards.

"It was a great corner from Beas, and Landon did a great job heading it back," Bradley said. "It was not so hard for me to put it in."

That touched off a wild celebration just a few feet from the red-clad Sam's Army, which danced in the aisles and threw confetti up into the jet stream winds.

Then, in second-half stoppage time, Bradley took a pass from Donovan and his shot from 28 yards dipped under Sanchez's arms. It secured the third straight 2-0 win for the Americans over Mexico at Crew Stadium in World Cup qualifying.

"Clearly there's an advantage [in Columbus] for us, and a disadvantage for them," Donovan said. "Mentally it's got to weigh on them. I can't imagine they like coming here. And we love playing here."

Mexico captain Rafael Marquez was ejected in the 65th minute when he went high to spike goalkeeper Tim Howard as they went for a loose ball. Howard, who angrily threw the ball down while he flexed his leg, also picked up a yellow card for delay of game on the ensuing free kick.

"I apologized to the team," Marquez said. "I know I'm important to the team. And I shouldn't set this kind of example. But this is just starting. There are still many important games."

The loss could mean more trouble for Mexico coach Sven-Goran Eriksson. His team, with just one win in its last seven outings, barely made it into the final round of qualifying. A former manager of England, he had been brought on to stop what many Tricolores fans consider an almost unforgivable sin: losing to the United States. Mexico easily controlled the series for decades, but the U.S. team has now gone 13-7-8 since 1990 to narrow Mexico's advantage to 29-15-11.

"Football is a big sport and, face it, sometimes it's not a friend of [patience]," Eriksson said. "But I'm optimistic because I think we have a good team. We have to score goals -- that's our biggest problem."

Michael Bradley said it was the Americans' defense which spelled the difference.

"We did a real nice job of getting after them and not letting them breathe," Bradley said.

The match was the first of 10 in the final round of qualifying for each team. The United States next plays at El Salvador on March 28 before taking on Trinidad and Tobago on April 1 in Nashville, Tenn. Mexico entertains Costa Rica on March 28.

Both teams played somewhat guardedly in the opening minutes, thrusting and parrying to determine how the ball would react in the windy conditions and what the opposition strategy was.

Mexico had one strong scoring chance stopped by Howard's leg save and another shot was high over the crossbar in the first 6 minutes. The United States' best early scoring chance came in the 22nd minute after a foul just outside the box. From 22 yards, Donovan's hard, low kick was just wide left.

The Americans also had another prime opportunity in the 31st minute when Donovan headed the ball to Clint Dempsey for a hard shot that Sanchez deflected with the lower part of his body.

Bradley then broke the impasse.

Mexico's best shot at tying came in the 71st minute when Carlos Ochoa was wide right on a kick from 34 yards.

The weather was relatively calm once the game got under way. A steady rain pelted the stadium most of the afternoon. Then around 90 minutes before the start, a mammoth storm front rolled through, shaking the windows around the stadium, blowing away anything that wasn't tied down and reducing visibility to almost nothing.

Shortly after, crews came out twice to squeegee the field. Stadium officials warned the early-arriving spectators to seek shelter under the stands after a violent lightning strike not far away.

With temperatures throughout the day in the 60s, a cold front came through to create dangerous possibilities. At gametime, it was 52 degrees.

Fans from 43 states, the District of Columbia, Canada and, of course, Mexico snapped up the tickets. Hours before the game, the fans were singing, chanting, drumming and blowing on horns while wearing 3-foot wide sombreros, national flags and Uncle Sam hats.

Notes: The United States has not lost a home match to a continental rival since 2001, going 37-0 with 10 draws. Included in that domination is a sterling record at Crew Stadium, home of the 2008 Major League Soccer champions. The Americans are unbeaten in eight international games (5-0-3) in Crew Stadium and are 4-0-2 in World Cup qualifiers. ... On Feb. 28, 2001, the Americans won 2-0 in 28-degree weather, with ice fringing the field -- a match now called Guerra Fria, or the Cold War. They won by the same score

snarky
02-12-2009, 12:46 AM
Excellent. Way to represent.

And what a great way to start the hexagonal. The second goal was a bit soft, but it was nice to see Altidore help create the break. Hopefully he gets some playing time at Xerez and then moves back to Villareal sometime next year.

I was disappointed, however, with the level of possession after the red card. Up a man and a goal i feel they should have been able to knock it around a bit more. But all's well that ends well, I guess.

And the wind looked crazy on TV.

Not sure if you caught this but T&T and El Salvador drew which could help if the US runs into disaster at some point.

Iron Shiek
02-12-2009, 01:26 AM
Yeah snarky, I don't anticipate much trouble for US, but that definitely helps. The wind was insane. Long ball was completely out of play and it continued to amaze me how much they tried to use it. If you noticed though, the 2nd half US was going against the wind. Even balls on the ground were getting pushed back, it was tough going that way, a man up or not. Mexico in the first half probably was in offensive territory for 8 minutes I'd say. So they didn't fare much better. I was pleased with the overall level of play, particularly the defense and midfield. Ching/Donovan combo needs to be shelved. I've given up on Donovan pretty much. He gets the ball and rarely creates anything (although he had a part in that last goal if i'm not mistaken...i have to re-watch it on tv).

Altidore is going to be a beast...wait til Adu gets back into the lineup as well, this team isn't even close to peaking.

Andy good god, Gooch is a beast in person.

Iron Shiek
02-12-2009, 11:46 AM
Freakin awesome!!!! I'm watching teh dvr'd copy of mine and right after Bradley scored the first goal and goes to the corner to celebrate...this mexican dude takes his jersey off and starts waving it, then to the left of him someone was waving a Steelers flag!! Nation representation!

snarky
02-12-2009, 01:09 PM
I find it concerning that Adu can't get playing time on a middle of the table team in League1 - and this after his struggles at Benefica. I know he's added creativity when he has played on the USMNT - but I wonder if he has the consistency. Not saying he is a 'bust' but I'm seeing him more and more as an average to slightly above average member of the USMNT.

I think at this point, Altidore shows much more promise and from what I have heard of him in interviews, he has the necessary humility to continue improving.

Iron Shiek
02-12-2009, 01:56 PM
Totally agree with you. Alitidore doesn't have that "chosen one" status that Adu had as well. I like Adu's play set up more than any finishing or anything. He can put a ball anywhere, great passing skills. I could care less about his fancy moves and what not. Just pass the ball and get Jozy into space, that should be his job.

ghettoscott
02-12-2009, 08:08 PM
Man, i am jealous Shiek, that must have been awesome!!! I was getting all pumped up during the National Anthem and went apeshyte on the free kick that we missed wide left. I freakin HATE the Mexican Keeper and loved the 2 goals we put on his sorry arse.

Guess those Donovan voodoo dolls didnt work. :loser

Iron Shiek
02-12-2009, 08:55 PM
They worked on him and his play...but they didn't need a doll for that. I guess he had the nice header to set up the first goal....

Got there just in time for our National Anthem and i was stoked as well.

I think Oswaldo Sanchez is a very good goalkeeper. He doesn't irk me as much as that rat ba$tard Marquez. I put him up there in the hate list with Ray Ray the Knife. I was so glad to see him sent off. He's dirtier than most guys...

ghettoscott
02-13-2009, 08:53 AM
yeah, that guy is a d-bag, glad he got tossed too.
... still dont know why we got a yellow though.

Iron Shiek
02-13-2009, 11:09 AM
Howard was kinda walking away from the scrum and was frustrated that his leg was hit and he slammed the ball down or threw it off the field or something. Kinda dumb.

Jigawatts
02-13-2009, 01:15 PM
Shiek, I can't remember if we discussed this at the Chargers game, but did you play any
college ball? IIRC, we're around the same age and now I'm curious if there's a possibility
that the Shiek and Jigawatts went head to head in the past.

snarky
02-13-2009, 03:50 PM
Yeah, given Howard's card, I was surprised the Mexican keeper wasn't booked after the second goal.

Iron Shiek
02-13-2009, 04:45 PM
Shiek, I can't remember if we discussed this at the Chargers game, but did you play any
college ball? IIRC, we're around the same age and now I'm curious if there's a possibility
that the Shiek and Jigawatts went head to head in the past.


Played in High School (Lorain Southview High)...varsity 4 years but my school wasn't what you would call a powerhouse (or a weakhouse for that matter). Wrestling and Baseball were the big sports at my school, I'd try to recruit alot of those guys to play soccer all the time. We had like me and 2 or 3 other guys that actually had played soccer their entire lives. Most of the people were converts and picked the game up within the last 2 years or so. It was rough, but did our best.

I got a scholarship offer to play at Tiffin (NATE Dog WASHINGTON'S school!!!) which was NAIA at the time. In hindsight I should've just took it because I really wanted to play, but I also really wanted to go to OSU and my brother and all my friends had moved here so I ended up passing and going to Columbus.

I did train with the OSU club team (kinda like their jayvee team) during my freshman year, but when it came time for the season I couldn't commit to all the travelling they were gonna be doing. So I ended up just playing in leagues at this soccer complex in Dublin (suburb) with a bunch of my friends. There was some great competition there as well.

But I do regret not pursuing my playing career. I think with proper training and conditioning I could've been a lot better, that was what held me back the most. Skill wise I could hang with most anyone. Haven't played organized ball now for about 3 or 4 years....its sucks. I'm itching to play though.

So that was the long answer. Short answer was "No, I didn't play in college. :D " Where did you play Jiga?

Jigawatts
02-13-2009, 05:30 PM
That's funny, I'm just the opposite of you. I was conditioned like a freak but I had terrible
skills. I went to a small high school, we didn't even have soccer until I was a junior, but
I played football that year because I wasn't sure they'd have a soccer team and I had
already committed to the off season football training program.

Even though I played in the youth leagues, I didn't play in high school until I was a senior ('97).
We didn't have a lot of skilled players, so our coach just conditioned the hell out of us so
we could out run anyone we played. That was good enough to get me recruited by Lake
Erie College in Painesville, also NAIA at the time. Since I didn't have great skill, I basically
got by on my quickness and tenacity. I played three years and quit my senior year so I
could focus on graduating, since I knew I didn't have a future in soccer. I still regret quitting
because I've never had more fun in my life than those three years with my teammates.

Now, the reason I asked you if you played was because we played schools all around
the Cleveland area, (I wasn't sure that you went OSU). Teams like Case, John Carroll,
and Hiram. We played Capital a few times, I'm not sure where that's at, but I know it's
somewhere near Columbus.

My wife (when not pregnant) and I still play indoors on Friday nights in a co-ed league.
Not very competitive, but it's fun to kick the ball around. She actually has better skills
than me. :oops: So we figure with my quickness and her skills, our jiga girls are going
to be playing in the Womens World Cup by 2027. :lol:

ghettoscott
02-13-2009, 05:31 PM
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccer ... cerinsider (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2009/02/the_hejduk_incident.html?wprss=soccerinsider)

douche...

costanza2k1
02-13-2009, 05:50 PM
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2009/02/the_hejduk_incident.html?wprss=soccerinsider

douche...

In my culture slapping someone or knocking off their cap is the worst thing you can do to someone. Ultimate disrespect. What a knob.

Iron Shiek
02-13-2009, 07:32 PM
Thats awesome Jiga. I wasn't a fat slob or anything, I just didn't have the speed a forward should have. But I had a keen nose for the goal...that was my specialty, getting in space and scoring. And being a little fly that stole balls from clumsy defenders and taking the goalie one on one. Ha.

Capital is right in downtown Columbus. That's crazy, you played NAIA and you didn't play Tiffin? If I played there, we def would've played each other because I graduated High School in 97 also.

Discipline of Steel
02-13-2009, 08:38 PM
Im kinda like you Jigs...I didnt play until college intramurals. Never had any skills until recently and got by on over aggression. I like to say I play middle linebacker since Im the guy that slams those strikers as they try to dance their way into the box.

I love that we dominate our region but its hard to imagine the US team regaining any world prominence at the next Cup. Maybe if we had Klinsmann as our coach...

Jigawatts
02-13-2009, 10:22 PM
That's crazy, you played NAIA and you didn't play Tiffin?

We were in the Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference (AMCC) so most, if not all of the
teams in our conference were east of us. The out of conference games we played were
relativity close to us. Usually Case, Hiram, John Carrol, West Minster, Grove City, Wooster
Theil, and Oberlin to name a few. I don't know why we never played Tiffin. That's a
question maybe one of my old teammates could answer.


Im kinda like you Jigs...I didnt play until college intramurals. Never had any skills until recently and got by on over aggression. I like to say I play middle linebacker since Im the guy that slams those strikers as they try to dance their way into the box.

I love that we dominate our region but its hard to imagine the US team regaining any world prominence at the next Cup. Maybe if we had Klinsmann as our coach...

Where do you play DoS?

Discipline of Steel
02-13-2009, 10:50 PM
[quote=Iron Shiek]That's crazy, you played NAIA and you didn't play Tiffin?

We were in the Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference (AMCC) so most, if not all of the
teams in our conference were east of us. The out of conference games we played were
relativity close to us. Usually Case, Hiram, John Carrol, West Minster, Grove City, Wooster
Theil, and Oberlin to name a few. I don't know why we never played Tiffin. That's a
question maybe one of my old teammates could answer.


Im kinda like you Jigs...I didnt play until college intramurals. Never had any skills until recently and got by on over aggression. I like to say I play middle linebacker since Im the guy that slams those strikers as they try to dance their way into the box.

I love that we dominate our region but its hard to imagine the US team regaining any world prominence at the next Cup. Maybe if we had Klinsmann as our coach...

Where do you play DoS?[/quote:3reweasp]

I play for a club down here in Fla, games on Sunday mornings. Mostly S Americans, Im the 'gringo'. I like to go play with the Jamaicans on Wednesdays for fun. They are a rough bunch...more my style. Imagine that, Im always the odd guy in my own country. I just played futbolito down in Colombia last year, that was different. There is a big net over the whole field, which is much smaller, and you cant shoot from inside a 10 yard arc around the goal.

Iron Shiek
02-13-2009, 11:18 PM
We'll almost always be the "oddballs" on the field because more non-Americans embrace and play the sport than do Americans. And really, most of my post high school playing (in highly competitive rec leagues and such) was played with other fellow Europeans (so I'm a half-"outcast") on my team, playing against Mexicans, Jamaicans, and others...

snarky
02-14-2009, 12:28 AM
'We'll almost always be the "oddballs" on the field'

Not in Fairfax County, VA. Soccer is king there. In some places you'll see 10 year olds practicing on a million dollar grass turf field and a junior high football team practicing on a middne ridden natural field which is half the size.

Iron Shiek
02-15-2009, 04:51 PM
'We'll almost always be the "oddballs" on the field'

Not in Fairfax County, VA. Soccer is king there. In some places you'll see 10 year olds practicing on a million dollar grass turf field and a junior high football team practicing on a middne ridden natural field which is half the size.


Wow, that is a great image. I should move there! Sounds great.

snarky
02-15-2009, 05:01 PM
Umm, that should say mud not 'middne'. I must have been speaking dutch there for a second.