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Flasteel
02-05-2009, 11:58 PM
Taking a cue from MJG, here is a place to park all of your not-so-favorable comments concerning our OC. Let's try to be civil to one another and be mindful that only negative comments about BA are to be placed here. A separate thread has been be rolled out for any positive comments which need to be made. I'll start the Bruce hate-fest.

1. Publically stated his disdain for the three-step drop even when his QB was getting killed. Curiously incorporated it late this season.
2. Failed to implement any counter-measures in his offense to deal with the relentless pressure being placed on the QB.
3. Has demonstrated no ability to successfully attack the weaknesses of an opposing defense.
4. No evidence of in-game adjustments when we are flailing offensively. It seems we only get going at the end of the games when Ben is in the no-huddle, playing back yard ball.
5. Has removed the fullback from our offense despite the pleas from his RB and line.
6. Has a mind-numbing passion to pound our RB between the tackles and fails to consistently get him on the edge. Our RB's nickname is "fast".
7. We have become the worst ranked short yardage and goal to go team in the league.
8. We have a top-three QB, two Super Bowl MVP receivers, a Pro Bowl RB, a TE who should be in the Pro Bowl and we are ranked near the bottom of the league in nearly every offensive statistical category.
9. Shows little to no imagination in his play-calling and lacks the timing or penchant on the rare occasions he does get a little tricky.
10. He coached in Cleveland and can therefore never succeed in life. (I threw that in there for Oviedo & Burgh...plus I like round numbers)

NEXT!

buckeyehoppy
02-06-2009, 01:25 AM
Taking a cue from MJG, here is a place to park all of your not-so-favorable comments concerning our OC. Let's try to be civil to one another and be mindful that only negative comments about BA are to be placed here. A separate thread has been be rolled out for any positive comments which need to be made. I'll start the Bruce hate-fest.

1. Publically stated his disdain for the three-step drop even when his QB was getting killed. Curiously incorporated it late this season.
2. Failed to implement any counter-measures in his offense to deal with the relentless pressure being placed on the QB.
3. Has demonstrated no ability to successfully attack the weaknesses of an opposing defense.
4. No evidence of in-game adjustments when we are flailing offensively. It seems we only get going at the end of the games when Ben is in the no-huddle, playing back yard ball.
5. Has removed the fullback from our offense despite the pleas from his RB and line.
6. Has a mind-numbing passion to pound our RB between the tackles and fails to consistently get him on the edge. Our RB's nickname is "fast".
7. We have become the worst ranked short yardage and goal to go team in the league.
8. We have a top-three QB, two Super Bowl MVP receivers, a Pro Bowl RB, a TE who should be in the Pro Bowl and we are ranked near the bottom of the league in nearly every offensive statistical category.
9. Shows little to no imagination in his play-calling and lacks the timing or penchant on the rare occasions he does get a little tricky.
10. He coached in Cleveland and can therefore never succeed in life. (I threw that in there for Oviedo & Burgh...plus I like round numbers)

NEXT!

And this is where we may well see the constitution of our HC.

Will he have the fortitude to explain to his OC that the offensive numbers, no matter what the outcome of the season, were unacceptable and MUST be improved? Will he demand modifications in game plan? coaching personnel? basic offensive structure?

In "the other thread" I had already alluded to the change that will happen on the OL. That's happening. And, quite frankly, the fewer existing players from this line that get retained, the better. Both Kemo and Max Sucks are too slow and immobile to get after a speedy pass rush. That's fact and it was still true the second half of the season when they encountered a capable pass rushing team (i.e. the Titans). Marvel won't be back unless his back problems are miraculously cured and he's willing to take a club-friendly deal.

They also need to get someone, so long as FWP is carrying the rushing load, who will be able to lead block for him. I think we already have the candidate for that role with McHugh. He played FB at Penn State and he should be able to reprise his role with the Steelers. But the days of the one back set must end now that this season has ended. Get a damned FB, BA!

ray
02-06-2009, 01:35 AM
As I tried to say in another thread before it was locked, my only gripe with him this past season was a perceived lack of willingness to establish a running game. Single back sets didn't work and no real attempt was made with a lead blocker. I could understand his play calling better had they tried the lead blocker scheme and it failed but they never made a real effort to try.

stlrz d
02-06-2009, 01:49 AM
Still collects a paycheck signed by Dan Rooney.

fordfixer
02-06-2009, 02:08 AM
He can't get a job as the Chief's head coach :D

AngryAsian
02-06-2009, 02:13 AM
defense = #1 in the league

offense = #22 in the league

Which area needs improvement? We won a championship with the above noted formula. Now we need to retain the trophy next year and everyone in the league is aware of this formula. We need to change it.

fordfixer
02-06-2009, 02:20 AM
defense = #1 in the league

offense = #22 in the league

Which area needs improvement? We won a championship with the above noted formula. Now we need to retain the trophy next year and everyone in the league is aware of this formula. We need to change it.


Oh sure use stats,....show off :D

AngryAsian
02-06-2009, 03:10 AM
defense = #1 in the league

offense = #22 in the league

Which area needs improvement? We won a championship with the above noted formula. Now we need to retain the trophy next year and everyone in the league is aware of this formula. We need to change it.


Oh sure use stats,....show off :D


I can always count on you and Ruthless for levity at the right moment. :lol: :lol:

MeetJoeGreene
02-06-2009, 08:53 AM
My new 3 least favorite words in the English language == "SINGLE BACK SET".

Appears to not have any in-game adjustments.

I, as a novice, often "guess" the play before it is run. Imagine what opposing defenses can do.

papillon
02-06-2009, 10:56 AM
Doesn't subscribe to the theory of doing something that is working until lthe other team proves they can stop it.

He's arrogant to the point that he is unwilling to even consider that what he's doing may need to be changed during a drive, a game or a season.

The remaining teams w/o a head coach don't even want to talk to him.

If Ben Roethlisberger wasn't the QB that runs his offense the Steelers would have been 8-8 and watching the SB celebration.

Relies on Ben's playground style to make a play after his ridiculous game plan doesn't work.

Has a history with Cleveland. :wft

Pappy

RuthlessBurgher
02-06-2009, 11:00 AM
defense = #1 in the league

offense = #22 in the league

Which area needs improvement? We won a championship with the above noted formula. Now we need to retain the trophy next year and everyone in the league is aware of this formula. We need to change it.


Oh sure use stats,....show off :D


I can always count on you and Ruthless for levity at the right moment. :lol: :lol:

This time, you can count on me for levitation at the right moment.

http://english.pravda.ru/img/2004/09/levitation.jpg

:P

RuthlessBurgher
02-06-2009, 11:01 AM
My new 3 least favorite words in the English language == "SINGLE BACK SET".

I disagree. I hate "EMPTY BACK SET" even more. :evil:

pfelix73
02-06-2009, 11:05 AM
Good initial post. I would concur on all 10 points posted.

True-
Arians not getting a look in KC or anywhere else for that matter is a telling sign about him.

MeetJoeGreene
02-06-2009, 03:00 PM
My new 3 least favorite words in the English language == "SINGLE BACK SET".

I disagree. I hate "EMPTY BACK SET" even more. :evil:

Empty Backfield, while not my favorite, doesn't bother me as much. If we have 5 wides or 3 TE then we are slinging and have a shot at a big play. A single back set with parker is almost a guarantee of a getting anywhere from positive 2 - negative 4 yards. It just doesn't work with Parker and our line.

Starlifter
02-06-2009, 03:08 PM
i wasn't sure if it was a joke or if someone can link to the article. did he really say something to the effect the running doesn't guarantee a win? that if you just took a knee 3 times in a row that's all you needed to do to win then?

I can't remember the exact quote, but if he really did say that - he's an arrogant pri@k who really doesn't understand steeler football. The last drive of the SB was not the result of BA's playcalling, it was the result of Ben's improvisational skills to make a great play out of the predictable crap that was called. Ben makes BA look competent to the rest of the world. we all know the truth though......

steelblood
02-06-2009, 03:11 PM
Designs the least effective screen passes in the league. Good screens will keep blitzers from full scale attacks. We simply invite them to pummel out QB.

feltdizz
02-06-2009, 03:27 PM
Did we finish 4-12 and not make the playoffs? Sheez... the OC talk needs to stop.
Dude had an OL with 3 new players (2 with no real playing time) and had to start a #3 RB for a few weeks and a QB with a gimp arm for 5 weeks.

besides our redzone O we are good.

Ben was hurt early in the year... and no, not due to a bad OL play.. I watch good OL's give up multiple sack games... Ben takes sacks yet also makes things happen.

When Lefty came in the Offense clicked... why? Because he was healthy and worked like a traditional QB.... hike, look, pass... Ben doesn't operate like that...

nothing wrong with how Ben operates but if hurt it tends to expose us.... when healthy who can really complain? Outside of the red zone struggles of course.

Even if all the fixes we have were due to Ben and Tomlin... so what? Obviously Arians finally came around and now we are going into our 3rd year with him with a Ring on hand and Sweetness will be healthy! Watch the show and enjoy..

look at our sched next year?

RuthlessBurgher
02-06-2009, 03:30 PM
Did we finish 4-12 and not make the playoffs? Sheez... the OC talk needs to stop.
Dude had an OL with 3 new players (2 with no real playing time) and had to start a #3 RB for a few weeks and a QB with a gimp arm for 5 weeks.

besides our redzone O we are good.

Ben was hurt early in the year... and no, not due to a bad OL play.. I watch good OL's give up multiple sack games... Ben takes sacks yet also makes things happen.

When Lefty came in the Offense clicked... why? Because he was healthy and worked like a traditional QB.... hike, look, pass... Ben doesn't operate like that...

nothing wrong with how Ben operates but if hurt it tends to expose us.... when healthy who can really complain? Outside of the red zone struggles of course.

Even if all the fixes we have were due to Ben and Tomlin... so what? Obviously Arians finally came around and now we are going into our 3rd year with him with a Ring on hand and Sweetness will be healthy! Watch the show and enjoy..

look at our sched next year?

Hey! This stuff belongs in the Bruce Arians Positive Attributes Thread, buster! There is one of those, too, you know. We are an equal opportunity Bruce Arians message board. :wink:

feltdizz
02-06-2009, 03:37 PM
lol!!! I know.. I'm still hype from the SB...

fordfixer
02-06-2009, 04:11 PM
defense = #1 in the league

offense = #22 in the league

Which area needs improvement? We won a championship with the above noted formula. Now we need to retain the trophy next year and everyone in the league is aware of this formula. We need to change it.


Oh sure use stats,....show off :D


I can always count on you and Ruthless for levity at the right moment. :lol: :lol:


Gee thanks .....put me in the same group as Ruthless now I'm depressed :lol:

RuthlessBurgher
02-06-2009, 04:37 PM
defense = #1 in the league

offense = #22 in the league

Which area needs improvement? We won a championship with the above noted formula. Now we need to retain the trophy next year and everyone in the league is aware of this formula. We need to change it.


Oh sure use stats,....show off :D


I can always count on you and Ruthless for levity at the right moment. :lol: :lol:


Gee thanks .....put me in the same group as Ruthless now I'm depressed :lol:

Yeah!!! Put him in the same group as Ruthless because fordfixer rul...wait, what?!?! :lol:

fordfixer
02-06-2009, 04:42 PM
defense = #1 in the league

offense = #22 in the league

Which area needs improvement? We won a championship with the above noted formula. Now we need to retain the trophy next year and everyone in the league is aware of this formula. We need to change it.


Oh sure use stats,....show off :D


I can always count on you and Ruthless for levity at the right moment. :lol: :lol:


Gee thanks .....put me in the same group as Ruthless now I'm depressed :lol:

Yeah!!! Put him in the same group as Ruthless because fordfixer rul...wait, what?!?! :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: