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02-05-2009, 01:02 PM
Schein's Nine: Best Super Bowl nuggetsby Adam Schein

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Adam Schein hosts the Sirius Blitz on Sirius NFL Radio from 11-3 ET. He also co-hosts Loudmouths on Sports Net New York every weeknight at 6 ET. He is a weekly columnist and files weekly video reports and makes NFL picks "video style" for FOXSports.com. Email Adam here.


Updated: February 3, 2009, 6:08 PM EST 257 comments Legendary plays. Heart-stopping moments. Horrible calls. An unprecedented sixth Super Bowl for the Steelers.

This Super Bowl had it all.

Guys and goats Adam Schein names his Five Guys and Five Goats from the Super Bowl.
We examine it in the latest Schein's Nine.

1. "He pulled a Roethlisberger"

That's what an announcer will say the next time a quarterback drives his team down for a win at the end of a huge game.

Roethlisberger looked like Joe Montana and Tom Brady engineering his majestic 78-yard, Super Bowl-winning drive to beat the Cardinals. And this Arizona defense had been playing a very good game.

I thought the Kurt Warner to Larry Fitzgerald touchdown with 2:30 to go would win it for the Cardinals. As clutch as Ben has been throughout his career, I didn't think he'd punch it in because of the respect level I had for Arizona. A field goal, perhaps. But I wasn't thinking he'd get seven for the Steelers.

I mention that to properly put in context what Roethlisberger accomplished against all odds, capping the eight-play drive with the classic throw to Santonio Holmes. And make no mistake -- that was a tremendous THROW before we even get into the catch. Roethlisberger dazzled with his poise, his ability to escape pressure and his arm strength and accuracy on the drive.

Ben's always played his best when it mattered the most since he entered the league.

And that's why I've had him as a top-five quarterback for some time.

But after Sunday night, he's no longer in the conversation with the Phil Rivers and the Eli Mannings and the Carson Palmers and the Donovan McNabbs and anyone else in that 4-12 category.

It's Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. Then draw the line.

That's how good the comeback was.

2. Yo, Holmes

The catch by the Steelers receiver was beautiful, with three Cardinals on him. What brilliant hands and body control to clearly get both feet in bounds.

He deserves all the accolades for making one of the biggest and best catches in Super Bowl history.


There was a reason why I picked Holmes before the game to be the MVP. His speed was a matchup nightmare for the Cardinals defensive backs.

The 40-yard gainer when Aaron Francisco fell down changed the ebb and flow of the drive, shifting from Pittsburgh playing for overtime vs. going for the win. Even before the catch for the ages, that play clinched the MVP for Holmes.

3. Prop Problems

So let me get this straight.

Wes Welker gets flagged and fined for an innocent snow angel. Yet Terry McAulay and his crew somehow miss the boat on Holmes using the football as a prop. We can debate whether or not that should be a penalty. For the record, I don't think it should be. But it is and it's been called consistently all year.

Holmes should've drawn a 15-yard penalty and it needed to be assessed on the kickoff. That could've changed the final drive for the Cardinals, aiding them greatly with field position.

4. More ref woes

Please don't think that by writing this I am taking away from the Steelers Super Bowl win.

But you cannot tell the story of this Super Bowl without talking about the officiating. And that's a fact.

It's a joke that Karlos Dansby was flagged for roughing the passer on Roethlisberger.

I understand the rule when Adrian Wilson ran into the holder. But isn't that football? How was he supposed to stop his momentum?

It was alarming that head ref Terry McAulay didn't review the final Kurt Warner fumble. How do you not check out a debatable play to the naked eye in the closing seconds of the Super Bowl! For the record, I think it was called correctly, but I would've liked to have seen more shots of it. It's the Super Bowl!

And I would've liked the officials to seem more concerned about checking it out than having NBC get to The Office on time. This was simply illogical and looked bad. Oh, by the way, if the call is overturned, Arizona gets 15 extra yards after James Farrior removed his helmet. The refs needed to take this play more seriously than they did.

You could also make the case -- as NBC's John Madden did -- that James Harrison deserved to be chucked out of the game for punching an opponent.

5. Big-game James

Harrison's pick at the end of the first half was legendary on so many levels.

I don't know about you, but I thought Arizona was going to score a touchdown and go into the half with a lead in a game where they were outplayed for both quarters.

Then there's the actual play.

Think about everything he did.

For Harrison to confuse Kurt Warner at the 2-yard line, drop back into coverage after faking a blitz, catch the ball, run full speed down the field, have the savvy not to hand the ball to cornerback Deshea Townsend who was begging for it, use his athleticism and power to break three potential tackles while hugging the sideline and not stepping out of bounds, ALL WITH NO TIME LEFT IN THE HALF, it was a play that had everything.

And how about the ability for Harrison to actually get into the end zone by a hair?

Pittsburgh needed those points, as it turned out.

It's not hyperbole. That's an all-time great play.

6. Coached up

Townsend gave us a great nugget on the play when he joined us on Sirius NFL Radio on Monday. Townsend said Mike Tomlin made sure the team practiced setting up blocks on interception returns all week long.

That's vintage Tomlin.

This Super Bowl win couldn't happen to a better guy in someone who truly appreciates the Rooney family and the Steelers fans and what Pittsburgh stands for.

And I want to give Ken Whisenhunt the appropriate kudos for having his team rally from a double-digit deficit.

This team never flinched until the very end. It didn't fold after the Harrison play. When the Cards committed three personal foul penalties on one drive, they still had the resolve to keep Pittsburgh out of the end zone with Gabe Watson and Darnell Dockett making big plays.

It was a wonderful season for Whisenhunt and the Cardinals. Being around the players and staff all week, the culture has changed. The Cards are no longer who you thought they were.

7. Hall of a game

It drove me nuts during the week leading up to the game when guests on our Sirius NFL Radio show would say Kurt Warner's legacy and Hall of Fame potential would be based on the result of the Super Bowl.

That was a foolish, blanket statement.

Warner made a huge mistake on the Harrison touchdown. But he had a sensational game.

Even in a loss, Warner's 377 yards and three touchdowns, in conjunction with his stellar season leading the Cardinals to this improbable run to Super Bowl, adds get strength to his Hall of Fame resume.

8. Fitz factor

John Madden was all over it on Sunday night.

Where was Larry Fitzgerald in the first three quarters before he exploded in the fourth?

Sure, Ike Taylor, Troy Polamalu and Co. doubled him. But Fitz was beating double teams all tournament long. You have to let him work his magic.

9. Perspective

I thought the Super Bowl was incredible and drama filled. But greatest ever? No way. I'm not even sure it was the greatest Super Bowl the Steelers participated in.

I'd argue perhaps the greatest fourth quarter of all time with the Cards coming back from a 13-point deficit. The safety on the Justin Hartwig hold in the end zone was huge. Warner to Fitzgerald for 64 yards was heart-stopping. Ben's comeback was classic.

But the game was a bit choppy over the first three quarters, with too many penalties, bad calls, and neither team running effectively.

The Giants over New England and Denver beating Green Bay (so underrated as a Super Bowl) were better actual games.

stlrz d
02-05-2009, 01:18 PM
Roethlisberger looked like Joe Montana and Tom Brady engineering his majestic 78-yard, Super Bowl-winning drive to beat the Cardinals. And this Arizona defense had been playing a very good game.

That's great...except it was 88 yards (penalty on 1st down) and Ben was actually better than Montana's game winning drive. Montana got two nice runs from Roger Craig on his drive. Ben accounted for all 88 yards (84 passing and 4 rushing) on his drive.

And more whining about the officiating but no mention of KW not being flagged for removing his helmet or Fitz blocking in the back on BMac...or the holds that went uncalled on Harrison. Sheesh!

Discipline of Steel
02-05-2009, 01:27 PM
Schien also called Hines Ward the #1 goat of the Super Bowl for not showing up in the game.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
02-06-2009, 01:37 PM
They all can have their fine whine, I'll take a Steeler Six pack, baby.

Thank you very much.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :tt1 :tt1 :tt2 :tt2

flippy
02-06-2009, 04:37 PM
It's Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. Then draw the line.



Tom knew the defensive plays and the best he could do was drive 30 yards to set up a long FG. Tom was mediocre until he got Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

Peyton is not clutch.


There is Ben. Then draw the line.

ghettoscott
02-07-2009, 11:04 AM
It's Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. Then draw the line.



Tom knew the defensive plays and the best he could do was drive 30 yards to set up a long FG. Tom was mediocre until he got Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

Peyton is not clutch.


There is Ben. Then draw the line.


:Agree

Thats my thoughts as well Flipp...Peyton is overrated in my opinion. Pretty funny on SNL though. Speaking of...does Ben get the call to host? Tone?

RuthlessBurgher
02-07-2009, 12:37 PM
It's Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. Then draw the line.



Tom knew the defensive plays and the best he could do was drive 30 yards to set up a long FG. Tom was mediocre until he got Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

Peyton is not clutch.


There is Ben. Then draw the line.


:Agree

Thats my thoughts as well Flipp...Peyton is overrated in my opinion. Pretty funny on SNL though. Speaking of...does Ben get the call to host? Tone?

I can see Ben hosting SNL this season. Brady did it. Peyton did it. Ben can do it. I'm struggling to think of any non-quarterback football players who have been on SNL (other than, of course, the infamous "Ray of Light" cartoon):

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I think my favorite NFL QB SNL skit featured Joe Montana as "Sincere Guy Stu" which ended with Montana saying the classic line "Oh, you won't disturb me. I'll be in my room masturbating." :lol:

stlrz d
02-07-2009, 12:53 PM
It's Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. Then draw the line.



Tom knew the defensive plays and the best he could do was drive 30 yards to set up a long FG. Tom was mediocre until he got Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

Peyton is not clutch.


There is Ben. Then draw the line.


:Agree

Thats my thoughts as well Flipp...Peyton is overrated in my opinion. Pretty funny on SNL though. Speaking of...does Ben get the call to host? Tone?

I can see Ben hosting SNL this season. Brady did it. Peyton did it. Ben can do it. I'm struggling to think of any non-quarterback football players who have been on SNL (other than, of course, the infamous "Ray of Light" cartoon):

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I think my favorite NFL QB SNL skit featured Joe Montana as "Sincere Guy Stu" which ended with Montana saying the classic line "Oh, you won't disturb me. I'll be in my room masturbating." :lol:

Walter Payton did a pretty good Michael Jackson impersonation on that same episode.

Discipline of Steel
02-07-2009, 02:58 PM
Walter Payton did a pretty good Michael Jackson impersonation on that same episode.

I would love to see that one!

stlrz d
02-07-2009, 04:44 PM
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Walter Payton did a pretty good Michael Jackson impersonation on that same episode.

I would love to see that one![/quote:34j1vl0i]

Just have to find a copy! :P

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AngryAsian
02-08-2009, 05:39 AM
It's Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. Then draw the line.



Tom knew the defensive plays and the best he could do was drive 30 yards to set up a long FG. Tom was mediocre until he got Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

Peyton is not clutch.


There is Ben. Then draw the line.


:Agree

Thats my thoughts as well Flipp...Peyton is overrated in my opinion. Pretty funny on SNL though. Speaking of...does Ben get the call to host? Tone?


I don't agree with your statement of "Peyton is overrated." Manning is a HOF QB, his numbers speak volumes for his case. But he's not a clutch QB. I think I read somewhere that Manning is 7-8 in the playoffs and Ben is 8-2 with 1 more SB win than Manning. No doubt in my mind that Manning deserves all the accolades that the media bestows upon him... but give me Ben in the playoffs any day over Manning. Ben is just winner.

feltdizz
02-08-2009, 03:31 PM
No way.. Peyton is vastly over rated... and I went to Tennessee for a year so I was a fan of his.. but the guy could never beat Florida. He is the ultimate choker....

He is Barry Bonds in a Pirate uni... A Rod as a Yankee... great until you need him to be.

You know a guy is over rated when ESPN debates changing the OT rule cause Peyton didn't get the ball in the OT. If the Colts get the ball first and win do you think they have this debate? My biggest problem with Peyton is the great numbers in the regular season and the pizz poor numbers in the playoffs... you can't do that in be HOF lock IMO...

He was given the SB MVP when he didn't deserve it and the NFL MVP this year when he didn't deserve it... Peyton and Favre are the same guy IMO... great for the league and they rarely have to do much to get MVP or Pro Bowl consideration.

feltdizz
02-08-2009, 03:38 PM
Now about these points...

The refs were flag happy but how can you say running into the holder like that is just football? If it was Harrison who did it they would scream murder....

The roughing the passer was a bad call... but the holding penalty in the endzone made up for it. If you watch any NFL highlights you see the flag come out after the pass was completed. If it was incomplete they wouldn't have called it. You see Ben celebrate then you see the flag.

and if Warner can take his helmet off why can't Farrior...

Turning to ref's in a game this close and exciting is pathetic and lately it seems as though ESPN whines when they don't get the outcome they want. In a game with 3 Steeler TD's challenged how can you complain when a fumble.. that everyone says was a fumble isn't reviewed. I'm starting to hate the reviews...it is taking away from the excitement of the game...