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costanza2k1
01-27-2009, 10:50 PM
Drafted Adrian Peterson instead of Levi Brown? An interesting article on cbssportline on this. I'm pretty sure our D could've handled the entire AZ O with him, but man that would be quite a challenge.

http://www.cbssports.com/print/nfl/story/11304576/2



Cards came this close to royal flush with Peterson
Jan. 27, 2009
By Pete Prisco
CBSSports.com Senior Writer
Tell Pete your opinion!


TAMPA, Fla. -- Waking up with a spider on your nose? Scary. Sitting in the chair as the dentist tells you it's only a root canal and to relax? Scary. Having the home alarm go off at 2 in the morning? Downright terrifying.

Want something just as frightening? How about Adrian Peterson in an Arizona Cardinals uniform?


On Dec. 14, Adrian Peterson torched the Cardinals for 165 yards on 28 carries. (AP) It nearly happened. The Minnesota Vikings star runner nearly became a member of the Cardinals coming out of Oklahoma.

Can you imagine how many defensive coordinators would be scared sleepless trying to defend that offense?

This week, the Cardinals come to Tampa for their Super Bowl XLIII battle with the Pittsburgh Steelers as one of the best offenses in the league. It is a pass-first offense that relies on Kurt Warner throwing to great receivers in Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.

It is not an offense that relies on the run.

Peterson would have changed that -- in a big way.

Cardinals offensive tackle Levi Brown is the reason Peterson isn't in a Cardinals uniform. That doesn't mean it's time to hate on Brown. But can you imagine Peterson playing against the Steelers this week for Arizona?

It wouldn't be the fall-down-for-3-yards running game that Edgerrin James brings. It would be explosive, just like the passing game.

"Wow," said another team's defensive coordinator when asked about Peterson on this team. "What would you do? They play three receivers and if you didn't play them, they'd hand it off. If you played the run, they'd throw it. It would be picking your poison."

As the Cardinals readied for the 2007 draft, they were one year removed from signing James to a long-term deal as their featured running back. Even so, there were concerns that James was getting up in years and an explosive back was needed. Big plays, after all, kill. That's why Peterson was linked to the Cardinals with the fifth overall pick in that draft, a dynamic runner who would force defenses to play the run.

"We really liked him," Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt said. "We had strong feelings for him as a player who could help us. We did come close to taking him."

Several members of the Cardinals brain trust wanted Peterson. They felt he was the rare kind of back, the kind who was worth a top-five pick. He was big and strong and fast and could rip off 70-yard runs.

Who wouldn't want him?

But there was thinking inside the Cardinals front office that drafting Peterson would be a luxury. They had James. They had J.J. Arrington. They could get a back later in the draft. There were too many other needs.

The biggest need, some felt, was on the offensive line. What good is a back without a line?

In 2006, James' first with the team, he rushed for 1,159 yards but on only 3.4 per rush. The Cardinals finished 30th in the league in rushing. The line was a mess. They ended up playing guard Reggie Wells at right tackle in large part because free agent Oliver Ross was hurt most of the season. Only Wells and tackle Leonard Davis played all 16 games and Davis was a free agent headed out of town (he's now a guard for the Cowboys).

"When I got here, we knew we had to turn the line over," Whisenhunt said. "It wasn't up to what we needed."

So they signed Mike Gandy to play left tackle as a free agent. They wanted Wells back at left guard, his more natural position. That meant they needed a right tackle, someone who could open holes for Whisenhunt's running game.

Brown was their guy. The Cleveland Browns took left tackle Joe Thomas with the third pick, which left the Cardinals to decide between Peterson and Brown.


Levi Brown hasn't been the franchise player the Cardinals hoped he would be. (US Presswire) Several Cardinals staffers told me there was a real internal fight when it came to the pick. Some scouts wanted Peterson, pushing hard for him. Others wanted Brown.

In the end, it was Brown the team decided to pick, opting for safety and need over spectacular.

"We agonized over that one," one team official said. "We still do."

Brown started nine games as a rookie. He showed plenty of potential, but the Cardinals running game still isn't what the team had hoped it could become by drafting a powerful, drive-blocking right tackle.

The Cardinals finished 25th in rushing in 2007 and finished 32nd this season. In the two seasons with Brown starting, the team's per-carry average was 3.6 in 2007 and 3.5 this season. James averaged 3.8 and 3.9 in those two seasons.

Peterson? He averaged an amazing 5.6 as a rookie for the Vikings and then followed it up with a 4.8 average this season. Peterson had 31 rushes of 20 or more yards and nine of 40 yards or more the past two seasons. James had five of 20-plus and none over 40.

Brown has been a capable starter, but some inside the Arizona organization believe he was the team's fourth-best lineman this season behind Wells, Gandy and center Lyle Sendlein.

For that, they passed on Peterson?

If Peterson were here, readying to play the Steelers, can you imagine what they would be saying about this Arizona offense? It would be considered one of the greatest ever, no matter who was playing right tackle in place of Brown.

"It would be like when the Minnesota Vikings had Randy Moss and Cris Carter and Robert Smith run for all those yards," the defensive coordinator said. "How do you stop it? Adrian Peterson with that group. That would be scary."

steelsun7
01-27-2009, 11:40 PM
Drafted Adrian Peterson instead of Levi Brown? An interesting article on cbssportline on this. I'm pretty sure our D could've handled the entire AZ O with him, but man that would be quite a challenge.

http://www.cbssports.com/print/nfl/story/11304576/2



Cards came this close to royal flush with Peterson
Jan. 27, 2009
By Pete Prisco
CBSSports.com Senior Writer
Tell Pete your opinion!


TAMPA, Fla. -- Waking up with a spider on your nose? Scary. Sitting in the chair as the dentist tells you it's only a root canal and to relax? Scary. Having the home alarm go off at 2 in the morning? Downright terrifying.

Want something just as frightening? How about Adrian Peterson in an Arizona Cardinals uniform?


On Dec. 14, Adrian Peterson torched the Cardinals for 165 yards on 28 carries. (AP) It nearly happened. The Minnesota Vikings star runner nearly became a member of the Cardinals coming out of Oklahoma.

Can you imagine how many defensive coordinators would be scared sleepless trying to defend that offense?

This week, the Cardinals come to Tampa for their Super Bowl XLIII battle with the Pittsburgh Steelers as one of the best offenses in the league. It is a pass-first offense that relies on Kurt Warner throwing to great receivers in Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.

It is not an offense that relies on the run.

Peterson would have changed that -- in a big way.

Cardinals offensive tackle Levi Brown is the reason Peterson isn't in a Cardinals uniform. That doesn't mean it's time to hate on Brown. But can you imagine Peterson playing against the Steelers this week for Arizona?

It wouldn't be the fall-down-for-3-yards running game that Edgerrin James brings. It would be explosive, just like the passing game.

"Wow," said another team's defensive coordinator when asked about Peterson on this team. "What would you do? They play three receivers and if you didn't play them, they'd hand it off. If you played the run, they'd throw it. It would be picking your poison."

As the Cardinals readied for the 2007 draft, they were one year removed from signing James to a long-term deal as their featured running back. Even so, there were concerns that James was getting up in years and an explosive back was needed. Big plays, after all, kill. That's why Peterson was linked to the Cardinals with the fifth overall pick in that draft, a dynamic runner who would force defenses to play the run.

"We really liked him," Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt said. "We had strong feelings for him as a player who could help us. We did come close to taking him."

Several members of the Cardinals brain trust wanted Peterson. They felt he was the rare kind of back, the kind who was worth a top-five pick. He was big and strong and fast and could rip off 70-yard runs.

Who wouldn't want him?

But there was thinking inside the Cardinals front office that drafting Peterson would be a luxury. They had James. They had J.J. Arrington. They could get a back later in the draft. There were too many other needs.

The biggest need, some felt, was on the offensive line. What good is a back without a line?

In 2006, James' first with the team, he rushed for 1,159 yards but on only 3.4 per rush. The Cardinals finished 30th in the league in rushing. The line was a mess. They ended up playing guard Reggie Wells at right tackle in large part because free agent Oliver Ross was hurt most of the season. Only Wells and tackle Leonard Davis played all 16 games and Davis was a free agent headed out of town (he's now a guard for the Cowboys).

"When I got here, we knew we had to turn the line over," Whisenhunt said. "It wasn't up to what we needed."

So they signed Mike Gandy to play left tackle as a free agent. They wanted Wells back at left guard, his more natural position. That meant they needed a right tackle, someone who could open holes for Whisenhunt's running game.

Brown was their guy. The Cleveland Browns took left tackle Joe Thomas with the third pick, which left the Cardinals to decide between Peterson and Brown.


Levi Brown hasn't been the franchise player the Cardinals hoped he would be. (US Presswire) Several Cardinals staffers told me there was a real internal fight when it came to the pick. Some scouts wanted Peterson, pushing hard for him. Others wanted Brown.

In the end, it was Brown the team decided to pick, opting for safety and need over spectacular.

"We agonized over that one," one team official said. "We still do."

Brown started nine games as a rookie. He showed plenty of potential, but the Cardinals running game still isn't what the team had hoped it could become by drafting a powerful, drive-blocking right tackle.

The Cardinals finished 25th in rushing in 2007 and finished 32nd this season. In the two seasons with Brown starting, the team's per-carry average was 3.6 in 2007 and 3.5 this season. James averaged 3.8 and 3.9 in those two seasons.

Peterson? He averaged an amazing 5.6 as a rookie for the Vikings and then followed it up with a 4.8 average this season. Peterson had 31 rushes of 20 or more yards and nine of 40 yards or more the past two seasons. James had five of 20-plus and none over 40.

Brown has been a capable starter, but some inside the Arizona organization believe he was the team's fourth-best lineman this season behind Wells, Gandy and center Lyle Sendlein.

For that, they passed on Peterson?

If Peterson were here, readying to play the Steelers, can you imagine what they would be saying about this Arizona offense? It would be considered one of the greatest ever, no matter who was playing right tackle in place of Brown.

"It would be like when the Minnesota Vikings had Randy Moss and Cris Carter and Robert Smith run for all those yards," the defensive coordinator said. "How do you stop it? Adrian Peterson with that group. That would be scary."


They would be scary good

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
01-28-2009, 12:36 AM
This is similar to what I was listening to on Buffalo radio today - what if they had moved up to draft Ben instead of Losman.

If you remember, they sat at 13 and there was a lot of talk that they would jump Pittsburgh @ 13 to go after a QB.

At the time it seemed that the prime target was Houston @ 10 - who took Dunta Robinson. Today I'd heard that supposedly Jacksonville would have traded down if they did not have a shot at their man Reggie Williams - bet they are still kicking themselves over that pick. Buffalo settled on Lee Evans then moved up to take Losman @ 22.

LOL.....if only. :lol:

sd steel
01-28-2009, 12:56 AM
Yeah, they would be tough, but what if we picked Dan Marino, or kept Johnny Unitas? Arizona needed a left tackle, not a running back. Although I think Petterson is great, if you don't have blockers your backs aren't going to be super successful, even AP.

If "if's and "but's" were yada yada yada........you get the point.